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HostGator dedicated

KassemKassem Member
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When you visit this: https://www.hostgator.com/dedicated-server

What is your understanding of what they are offering on that page?

Do you understand that you will be getting your own bare-metal server? or you will be getting a VPS with dedicated resources? or something else?

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  • SirFoxySirFoxy Member

    vds, but hg is super mid

  • KassemKassem Member

    @SirFoxy

    You found any reference for it being a VDS vs bare-metal or prior experience?

    I didn't see anything alluding to the fact that these are actually VDS plans (OpenStack).

  • bruh21bruh21 Member, Host Rep

    what kind of technology is this?

  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy

    Powered by Gatorade.

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  • SirFoxySirFoxy Member
    edited June 2021

    @Kassem said:
    @SirFoxy

    You found any reference for it being a VDS vs bare-metal or prior experience?

    I didn't see anything alluding to the fact that these are actually VDS plans (OpenStack).

    who would pair an xeon d series with 8gb ram

  • KassemKassem Member

    Nice catch, these CPUs take up to 128 GBs of RAM.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    Vds is definitely not the same as a dedicated server which, at least to me, means bare metal.

  • SirFoxySirFoxy Member

    @jbiloh said:
    Vds is definitely not the same as a dedicated server which, at least to me, means bare metal.

    yeah they want to advertise it as bare metal but go out of their way to keep it vague very eig like

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    I’d expect dedicated hardware. If they’re virtualized now that is interesting, they were bare metal when I was there.

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  • KassemKassem Member

    I understood that too, that it is indeed a dedicated server not a VDS. However from what I can tell, it is actually a VDS running on OpenStack.

    This is from their Enterprise dedicated server:

    # dmidecode 3.2
Getting SMBIOS data from sysfs.
SMBIOS 2.8 present.

Handle 0x0100, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
System Information
        Manufacturer: Fedora Project
        Product Name: OpenStack Nova
        Version: 13.1.4-1.el7
        Serial Number: snip
        UUID: snip
        Wake-up Type: Power Switch
        SKU Number: Not Specified
        Family: Virtual Machine

Handle 0x0300, DMI type 3, 21 bytes
Chassis Information
        Manufacturer: Red Hat
        Type: Other
        Lock: Not Present
        Version: RHEL 7.5.0 PC (i440FX + PIIX, 1996)
        Serial Number: Not Specified
        Asset Tag: Not Specified
        Boot-up State: Safe
        Power Supply State: Safe
        Thermal State: Safe
        Security Status: Unknown
        OEM Information: 0x00000000
        Height: Unspecified
        Number Of Power Cords: Unspecified
        Contained Elements: 0


Handle 0x0400, DMI type 4, 42 bytes
Processor Information
        Socket Designation: CPU 0
        Type: Central Processor
        Family: Other
        Manufacturer: Red Hat
        ID: snip
        Version: RHEL 7.5.0 PC (i440FX + PIIX, 1996)
        Voltage: Unknown
        External Clock: Unknown
        Max Speed: 2000 MHz
        Current Speed: 2000 MHz
        Status: Populated, Enabled
        Upgrade: Other
        L1 Cache Handle: Not Provided
        L2 Cache Handle: Not Provided
        L3 Cache Handle: Not Provided
        Serial Number: Not Specified
        Asset Tag: Not Specified
        Part Number: Not Specified
        Core Count: 1
        Core Enabled: 1
        Thread Count: 1
        Characteristics: None


*-memory
          description: System Memory
          physical id: 1000
          size: 30GiB
          capabilities: ecc
          configuration: errordetection=multi-bit-ecc
        *-bank:0
             description: DIMM RAM
             vendor: Red Hat
             physical id: 0
             slot: DIMM 0
             size: 16GiB
        *-bank:1
             description: DIMM RAM
             vendor: Red Hat
             physical id: 1
             slot: DIMM 1
             size: 14GiB

        *-scsi
             description: SCSI storage controller
             product: Virtio SCSI
             vendor: Red Hat, Inc.
             physical id: 4
             bus info: pci@0000:00:04.0
             version: 00
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: scsi msix bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=virtio-pci latency=0
             resources: irq:11 ioport:c040(size=64) memory:8000 memory:4000
           *-virtio1
                description: Virtual I/O device
                physical id: 0
                bus info: virtio@1
                logical name: scsi2
                configuration: driver=virtio_scsi
              *-disk
                   description: SCSI Disk
                   product: QEMU HARDDISK
                   vendor: QEMU
                   physical id: 0.0.0
                   bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0
                   logical name: /dev/sda
                   version: 2.5+
                   size: 895GiB (960GB)
                   capabilities: 5400rpm partitioned partitioned:dos
                   configuration: ansiversion=5 logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=512 signature=snip

*-network
             description: Ethernet controller
             product: Virtio network device
             vendor: Red Hat, Inc.
             physical id: 3
             bus info: pci@0000:00:03.0
             version: 00
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: msix bus_master cap_list rom
             configuration: driver=virtio-pci latency=0
             resources: irq:10 ioport:c000(size=64) memory:snip memory:snip memory:snip
           *-virtio0
                description: Ethernet interface
                physical id: 0
                bus info: virtio@0
                logical name: eth0
                serial: fa:16:3e:5f:6e:f4
                capabilities: ethernet physical
                configuration: broadcast=yes driver=virtio_net driverversion=1.0.0 ip=123.123.123.123 link=yes multicast=yes

    *-cpu:0
          description: CPU
          product: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU D-1541 @ 2.10GHz
          vendor: Intel Corp.
          vendor_id: GenuineIntel
          physical id: 400
          bus info: cpu@0
          version: 6.86.3
          slot: CPU 0
          size: 2GHz
          capacity: 2GHz
          width: 64 bits
          capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp x86-64 constant_tsc arch_perfmon rep_good nopl xtopology eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq ssse3 fma cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch invpcid_single fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 hle avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rtm rdseed adx smap xsaveopt arat
          configuration: cores=1 enabledcores=1 microcode=0 threads=1
     *-cpu:1
          description: CPU
          product: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU D-1541 @ 2.10GHz
          vendor: Intel Corp.
          vendor_id: GenuineIntel
          physical id: 401
          bus info: cpu@1
          version: 6.86.3
          slot: CPU 1
          size: 2GHz
          capacity: 2GHz
          width: 64 bits
          capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp x86-64 constant_tsc arch_perfmon rep_good nopl xtopology eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq ssse3 fma cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch invpcid_single fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 hle avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rtm rdseed adx smap xsaveopt arat
          configuration: cores=1 enabledcores=1 microcode=0 threads=1

and so on..

    @jar this means a VDS/VPS?

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  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @Kassem said: this means a VDS/VPS?

    I guess so but in all fairness it's probably a virt layer over a fully dedicated server. They likely did it for ease of deployment. I know feelings about that vary but IMO as long as it isn't shared I'm comfortable with the language considering the source.

    I say considering the source because I don't think anyone chasing a powerful dedicated server, that would knowingly benefit from bare metal over fully dedicated virtualized hardware, would be shopping at HG.

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  • ehhthingehhthing Member

    @jar said:

    @Kassem said: this means a VDS/VPS?

    I guess so but in all fairness it's probably a virt layer over a fully dedicated server. They likely did it for ease of deployment. I know feelings about that vary but IMO as long as it isn't shared I'm comfortable with the language considering the source.

    I say considering the source because I don't think anyone chasing a powerful dedicated server, that would knowingly benefit from bare metal over fully dedicated virtualized hardware, would be shopping at HG.

    This does seem like a bit of waste of power and CPU time, but yeah given it's HG, I don't think many people would care.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @thedp said: Powered by Gatorade.

    Powered by Hostgator Koolaid.

    @bruh21 said: what kind of technology is this?

    They can't even keep the specs consistent on the same page.

    At the top:

    Screen-Shot-2021-06-14-at-1-29-14-PM

    At the bottom:

    Screen-Shot-2021-06-14-at-1-29-22-PM

  • ehhthingehhthing Member

    @raindog308 said:

    @thedp said: Powered by Gatorade.

    Powered by Hostgator Koolaid.

    @bruh21 said: what kind of technology is this?

    They can't even keep the specs consistent on the same page.

    At the top:

    Screen-Shot-2021-06-14-at-1-29-14-PM

    At the bottom:

    Screen-Shot-2021-06-14-at-1-29-22-PM

    Yo quad multithreading sounds cool

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