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Someone started mining Chia with server???

SSD prices have already started to increase. . .

next step... large-capacity SSD Server Price increase? :|

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  • lentrolentro Member, Provider

    In the same way that Filecoin/IPFS is waayyyy overrated, and I feel like this would be as well. People shouldn't be just mining to make short term money but mine viable long-term projects...

    In the case of Chia, I can't really see what makes it so special. If you want to get rid of electric costs, why are servers with large SSD space even required? Is there any other benefit that I'm overlooking?

    Staking already fixes the problem Chia is trying to fix. Doesn't look like a successful long term project to me.

  • dragonfskydragonfsky Member
    edited April 17

    A stupid scam >:)

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  • jacklyjackly Member

    Yes, the ssd has increased by 20% now

  • PulsedMediaPulsedMedia Member, Provider

    We put some of our spare capacity on that :)
    We got tons of HDD space we have to be able to vacate within hours at need, so it's a natural fit since the farming don't consume almost any server resources.

    For testing we put a EPyC 32C, 24xSSD server for plotting. Plot speed seems to vary a lot, we've not yet had much time for actual tuning. We also tested our cheapest possible server, 6core low power opteron with HDDs, that too plotted 4-5 plots a day despite having broken HDD slowing things down.

    It would actually make sense for many to get our seedboxes for chia plot farming. It's super simple :O just sshfs fuse mount and add that as plot directory, mv as usual the plots there.

    For us, as long as it makes us something it's a no brainer, only thing that costs us actual money is the plotting -- but since you only need to do that once ... :)

    Chia also has other benefits, read their whitepaper. Chialisp allows for dapps, and Chia could compete with Ethereum on that front. Bram Cohen is behind Chia, and he already has some slight success called Bittorrent behind him :)

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider
    edited April 17

    So how would this work if you plotted your VPS hard drive?

    If you do a reinstall you get a 'fresh harddrive' normally. Would the plot file be the same? Could you say:

    • have a 'data' drive (a Slab if you will)
    • Plot your primary OS drive
    • Store the PLOT data over to the slab
    • Reinstall the main OS drive
    • Plot that reinstall and get a different plot file?

    Francisco

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    I think I misunderstood what this is doing exactly.

    So the plot file is generated and stored on NVME/SSD just because it's fast, it isn't like...reading patterns/characteristics from the drive to make a big hash of it.

    OK, that makes a bit more sense :)

    Francisco

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  • PulsedMediaPulsedMedia Member, Provider

    also the finished plot can be stored even on a USB drive, perf requirements are near zero on that. Only the initial plotting requires high I/O performance.

    If the 20$ / XCH estimate holds true right now farming is making some really really nice profit margins -- the tough thing is how long it takes to plot all that space.

    Right now i am looking at about 2PiB of unused space we got laying around, that'll take a while to plot if using just single idle machine .... :open_mouth:

  • In before CH-CH-CHIA meme.

  • atroxzatroxz Member

    is there a step by step guide to installing the chia mining software , on headless vps ?

  • come with seeds?

  • Vova1234Vova1234 Member, Provider

    The network size is only 387 PB, which is not much.

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  • defaultdefault Member
    edited April 19

    Sounds like another pump-and-dump story.

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  • elliotcelliotc Member

    "Chia is More suitable for general user participation", if this statement is true, it's not destined to end well. Money is only made by a few people.

    Don't give me hope.

  • xrzxrz Member
    edited April 19

    There was plenty of 4x10 TB relative cheap (80€) servers on hetzner/sb now they are all gone lol

    Next move is mine crypto in our heads and end of humans..

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  • I have 2TB hard drive on the home router, with 1.5TB space left.
    I read about Chia and it seems that their software wouldn't work on MIPS32 architecture.

    My servers are all tight in storage, because my apps mostly use RAM.
    The biggest storage is 45GB, but it's VirMach that only allows 80 IOPS.

    Thus, no Chia for me.


    @elliotc said:
    "Chia is More suitable for general user participation", if this statement is true, it's not destined to end well. Money is only made by a few people.

    Anyone can make money by going to California and look for gold.
    Public lands in California are open for all, and any gold you find is your property, after paying normal income tax.

    Gold, by definition, is money.
    There used to be gold nuggets, but nowadays you can only find gold sand.


    @xrz said:
    Next move is mine crypto in our heads and end of humans..

    Anyone found the crypto in my push-ups yet?

    The CDC says fully vaccinated people can disable iptables firewall on their servers.

  • elliotcelliotc Member

    @yoursunny said: Anyone can make money by going to California and look for gold.

    Yes but no, a few gold prospectors make a fortune, but many more are among the unlucky ones who endure meaningless labor on unexplored land, creating money for others for a pittance in the end. Personally, I think the probability of investing in undiscovered wealth is not justified because we are lack of money and information.
    Angel fund can take the 1% success rate but I cannot. I will always follow the big player, they buy BTC, I buy BTC; They buy tesla, I buy tesla.

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    Don't give me hope.

  • lentrolentro Member, Provider

    If I remember correctly, there was something called Burstcoin (or something else) that did something similar.

  • @lentro said:
    If I remember correctly, there was something called Burstcoin (or something else) that did something similar.

    Burstcoin is dead...

  • @xiaopigu said:

    @lentro said:
    If I remember correctly, there was something called Burstcoin (or something else) that did something similar.

    Burstcoin is dead...

    I believe that is the point being made.

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  • xiaopiguxiaopigu Member

    :o

  • LTnigerLTniger Member

    https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/chia-network/ it's going downhill. Cohen drinking Crystal champagne like a water.

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  • defaultdefault Member

    @LTniger said:
    https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/chia-network/ it's going downhill. Cohen drinking Crystal champagne like a water.

    Maybe he already sold his coins, and now enjoys some popcorn.

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  • james50ajames50a Member

    i mean what you expect was gona happen from another virtual # that accomplished nothing but taking peoples hopes and dreams and throwing them where they belong. ofc founder sold everything asap and is rich af, same shit that always happens

  • gemuruhcogemuruhco Member

    Chia dropped today by 12-14%.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    @xiaopigu said:
    :o

    @gemuruhco said:
    Chia dropped today by 12-14%.

    My guess is it settles around where filecoin is, which is ~$120.

    You gotta think. If it stayed at $600/each, we'd never be able to get a harddrive again because it'd be the most profitable coin out there, end of.

    Francisco

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  • gemuruhcogemuruhco Member

    @Francisco said:

    @xiaopigu said:
    :o

    @gemuruhco said:
    Chia dropped today by 12-14%.

    My guess is it settles around where filecoin is, which is ~$120.

    You gotta think. If it stayed at $600/each, we'd never be able to get a harddrive again because it'd be the most profitable coin out there, end of.

    Francisco

    True. At least we got some time to be able get the drive again... at least... :D

  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member

    @default said:

    @LTniger said:
    https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/chia-network/ it's going downhill. Cohen drinking Crystal champagne like a water.

    Maybe he already sold his coins, and now enjoys some popcorn.

    If you're eating popcorn right after making millions, you're doing it wrong.

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  • skorupionskorupion Member

    @Francisco said:

    @xiaopigu said:
    :o

    @gemuruhco said:
    Chia dropped today by 12-14%.

    My guess is it settles around where filecoin is, which is ~$120.

    You gotta think. If it stayed at $600/each, we'd never be able to get a harddrive again because it'd be the most profitable coin out there, end of.

    Francisco

    Its at 1 k

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    @skorupion said: Its at 1 k

    God. Dammit.

    Francisco

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  • aleastyaleasty Member
    1. Nobody talks about the lisp dialect they came up with, Chialisp. Lisp family is highly respected.

    2. With so much money, they started hiring.

    3. They are looking for Python and C++ engineers.

    If they create API libraries for Python & interpreted friends and invest in education about their smart contract logic which I haven't understood, they can land a sweet spot in the market.

    They are onto something there and eventually it will have more effect than just hodling.

  • gemuruhcogemuruhco Member

    @skorupion said:

    @Francisco said:

    @xiaopigu said:
    :o

    @gemuruhco said:
    Chia dropped today by 12-14%.

    My guess is it settles around where filecoin is, which is ~$120.

    You gotta think. If it stayed at $600/each, we'd never be able to get a harddrive again because it'd be the most profitable coin out there, end of.

    Francisco

    Its at 1 k

    OH MY GOD!
    Please down...please... :'(

  • NeoonNeoon Member

    Eh, this shit.
    Hetzner SB is fucking empty, nothing higher than 8TB.

  • flawsomeflawsome Member

    Do providers here allow customers mining Chia on their servers?

  • defaultdefault Member

    @flawsome said:
    Do providers here allow customers mining Chia on their servers?

    Mining is not allowed. Plotting Chia is not allowed.

    Farming Chia is allowed, because it does not abuse server resources.

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  • kwaralalakwaralala Member

    Seems like Hetzner have recently changed their SLA and policy to ban cryptomining(plotting/farming) on root servers too.

    Linked here

    Hopefully they act on it, and we get sane prices on auction again.

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  • NeoonNeoon Member

    @kwaralala said:
    Seems like Hetzner have recently changed their SLA and policy to ban cryptomining(plotting/farming) on root servers too.

    Linked here

    Hopefully they act on it, and we get sane prices on auction again.

    They could do DPI and kick all miners easily.

  • kwaralalakwaralala Member

    @kwaralala said:
    Seems like Hetzner have recently changed their SLA and policy to ban cryptomining(plotting/farming) on root servers too.

    Linked here

    Hopefully they act on it, and we get sane prices on auction again.

    @terrahost seems to have done so too.
    Updated 4th May to include HDD

  • kwaralalakwaralala Member

    @Neoon said:

    @kwaralala said:
    Seems like Hetzner have recently changed their SLA and policy to ban cryptomining(plotting/farming) on root servers too.

    They could do DPI and kick all miners easily.

    Or maybe just monitor port 8444?

  • skorupionskorupion Member

    @Francisco said:

    @skorupion said: Its at 1 k

    God. Dammit.

    Francisco

    @gemuruhco said:

    @skorupion said:

    @Francisco said:

    @xiaopigu said:
    :o

    @gemuruhco said:
    Chia dropped today by 12-14%.

    My guess is it settles around where filecoin is, which is ~$120.

    You gotta think. If it stayed at $600/each, we'd never be able to get a harddrive again because it'd be the most profitable coin out there, end of.

    Francisco

    Its at 1 k

    OH MY GOD!
    Please down...please... :'(

    1.3 K

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  • thedpthedp Member

    Anyone wanna send me some? :joy:

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  • kalipuskalipus Member
    edited May 8

    i started three days ago, had some issues to find good setup between disk I/O and amount of plots and also to get anything right online, but have now at least 7 ready plots and about 4 almost done, so this is, from the chiacalc view, about 90 USD with 7 plots online per months, would say it is not bad for 3 days plotting with some hdd dedis, which only have a 2x2tb btrfs with i5-4770 and a 2tb i3-2130, so long i snapped another 10$ i5-530 with 2tb from oneprovider, we'll see how it performs.

    have at home only a quad laptop, so i am plotting mostly online and will start a vds rig next days with 20-40 machines, each about 4 vcores :)

    think for long term online sharing i will just take a bunch of disks at JBOD and my banana pi with sata multiplicator and seed it online with 50Mbit upload, will be the cheapest solution and having about 8x 2tb wd old drives laying around and about 45TB on external disks, should be fine.

    got also three domains, someone want plots.cloud?

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