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  • webcraftwebcraft Member
    edited April 2021

    @Mytonn said:

    @webcraft said:

    @bolle said:

    Wireguard is configured by you because this service is unmanaged. Depending on your config this might work.

    Is there a TUN device support?

    ?? This is a KVM box. You have the power over kernel modules.

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  • KebabKebab Member
    edited April 2021

    Weird that you can't buy services directly, you have to buy credits then use those credits on the service. I wanted to buy cheapest one for a year, it shows up as 2.99 for a year, when i click add those credits, it says minimum credits to add is 5 euros...

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  • @Kebab said:
    it shows up as 2.99 for a year, when i click add those credits, it says minimum credits to add is 5 euros...

    Add 5,98€ and buy for two years?

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @Kebab said:
    Weird that you can't buy services directly, you have to buy credits then use those credits on the service. I wanted to buy cheapest one for a year, it shows up as 2.99 for a year, when i click add those credits, it says minimum credits to add is 5 euros...

    Well, payment gateway fees, did you expect to really pay 0.29€ per month?

    Thanked by 2webcraft donko
  • KebabKebab Member
    edited April 2021

    @webcraft said:

    @Kebab said:
    it shows up as 2.99 for a year, when i click add those credits, it says minimum credits to add is 5 euros...

    Add 5,98€ and buy for two years?

    shows up 1 year max

    @Neoon said:

    @Kebab said:
    Weird that you can't buy services directly, you have to buy credits then use those credits on the service. I wanted to buy cheapest one for a year, it shows up as 2.99 for a year, when i click add those credits, it says minimum credits to add is 5 euros...

    Well, payment gateway fees, did you expect to really pay 0.29€ per month?

    I expected to pay 2.99 since it shows up "Paypal 0% fees", "Paysafecard 15% fees", "Soft... something something 0% fees)
    If they added 50 cents fee id pay it, why do i have to pay 2 euros more if i dont even know if ill need it.

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  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @Kebab said:

    @webcraft said:

    @Kebab said:
    it shows up as 2.99 for a year, when i click add those credits, it says minimum credits to add is 5 euros...

    Add 5,98€ and buy for two years?

    shows up 1 year max

    @Neoon said:

    @Kebab said:
    Weird that you can't buy services directly, you have to buy credits then use those credits on the service. I wanted to buy cheapest one for a year, it shows up as 2.99 for a year, when i click add those credits, it says minimum credits to add is 5 euros...

    Well, payment gateway fees, did you expect to really pay 0.29€ per month?

    I expected to pay 2.99 since it shows up "Paypal 0% fees", "Paysafecard 15% fees", "Soft... something something 0% fees)

    The "Paypal 0% fees" simply means that you don't pay any PayPal fees -- but they do.

    If they added 50 cents fee id pay it, why do i have to pay 2 euros more if i dont even know if ill need it.

    I understand your point of view (you don't want to add 5€ in credit), but I guess that sums less than 5€ are simply not cost-effective for them, given the PayPal fees.

    Strictly speaking, PayPal don't allow merchants to charge an extra fee if customers pay by PayPal.

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  • Will anyone share benchmark?

    Funny html title on LG page :p
    <title><img src="https://lg.nl.haendler.it/logo.png"></img> - Looking Glass</title>

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  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @jvnadr said:

    @kuroneko23 said: That BudgetVM deadpooled I think, with negative review too.

    This post is from 2014. They are definitely not deadpooled, though, I really don't know anything about their quality. But from a short text, they are active on their social (last twitter post is on March 19), they are advertise frequently on HWT (last is at the end of March) and they get generally positive reviews on hostadvice.

    @GameTownProjects said: The name was chosen spontaneously and without any ulterior motives. To be honest, I didn't even check whether there was a provider with the same name, but I don't think it would have been worthwhile to look for a name for such a project for a long time.

    This is a really lame answer... You bought a domain on .host TLD and you did not check first the .com? You were surely check .com first and you probably saw there is a competitor there.
    You didn't even search the word budgetvm on Google before you named it? Weren't you curious what Google would show on results (first result is budgetvm.com).
    I am sure that you didn't do it for "stealing" clients from them as they are not the most known or reputable provider, but rather from laziness... That does not stop it for been a poor move... Especially because you are an old member of LET with rather good reputation...

    I would agree that @GameTownProjects could have tried to think of something more original than "BudgetVM", but in practice, the fact that there's already a "BudgetVM" (budgetvm.com) that is located in the US and caters to a different (and not so "budget") market segment is probably not a problem. In addition, the name "BudgetVM" is a fairly descriptive and generic name, so it probably wouldn't be viewed as name theft, especially if @GameTownProjects uses the full name "BudgetVM.host".

    Note that there are also UltraVPS (ultravps.com) and UltraVPS.eu, which doesn't seem to cause any problem or confusion (they serve different markets).

  • coldcold Member

    @GameTownProjects said:

    @bolle said:

    @GameTownProjects said:
    Also currently, the automatic IPv6 configuration does not work, but we are already working on both problems.

    So, for IPv6 we need to open the ticket?

    No.
    One IPv6 is includet, but not delivered by SLAAC / DHCPv6. If you need more you can order them for a small onetime fee, but it's currently not possible to get full IPv6 networks.

    a small onetimefee for ipv6 ? ARE YOU JOKING ? make money by any costs ?

  • HaendlerITHaendlerIT Member, Host Rep
    edited April 2021

    @cold said:

    @GameTownProjects said:

    @bolle said:

    @GameTownProjects said:
    Also currently, the automatic IPv6 configuration does not work, but we are already working on both problems.

    So, for IPv6 we need to open the ticket?

    No.
    One IPv6 is includet, but not delivered by SLAAC / DHCPv6. If you need more you can order them for a small onetime fee, but it's currently not possible to get full IPv6 networks.

    a small onetimefee for ipv6 ? ARE YOU JOKING ? make money by any costs ?

    We tried for free...
    Unfortunately, people are not able to deal properly with free offers, because bots were immediately built to rent all registered IPv6 addresses.

    And therefore we have simply passed on the costs for registering the addresses to the customers.
    If it bothers you, you are free to use another provider. But I have also seen providers with monthly fees for IPv6 addresses!

    It's wouldn't be a problem to give every customer 10 IPv6 on order instead of one, if that would make sense to anyone.
    Would that help?

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @GameTownProjects said: It's wouldn't be a problem to give every customer 10 IPv6 on order instead of one, if that would make sense to anyone.
    Would that help?

    Since 10 > 1, this will sound like a better deal and will probably mean fewer tickets :)

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  • Do you get any NAT ports for ipv4 with this VPS? It says NAT kvm but not very clear.
    Or is it only ipv6?

  • HaendlerITHaendlerIT Member, Host Rep

    @angstrom said:

    @GameTownProjects said: It's wouldn't be a problem to give every customer 10 IPv6 on order instead of one, if that would make sense to anyone.
    Would that help?

    Since 10 > 1, this will sound like a better deal and will probably mean fewer tickets :)

    We will improve all offers in the next hours.

    For customers who already got a server: Contact our support to get additional 9 Ipv6 for free.

    Thanked by 1angstrom
  • skorupionskorupion Member, Host Rep

    @GameTownProjects said:

    @angstrom said:

    @GameTownProjects said: It's wouldn't be a problem to give every customer 10 IPv6 on order instead of one, if that would make sense to anyone.
    Would that help?

    Since 10 > 1, this will sound like a better deal and will probably mean fewer tickets :)

    We will improve all offers in the next hours.

    For customers who already got a server: Contact our support to get additional 9 Ipv6 for free.

    why not give everyone a free /64

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  • HaendlerITHaendlerIT Member, Host Rep

    @drizbo said:
    Do you get any NAT ports for ipv4 with this VPS? It says NAT kvm but not very clear.
    Or is it only ipv6?

    100 IPv4 Ports are available for every server.

    @skorupion said:
    why not give everyone a free /64

    Has already been answered.

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  • skorupionskorupion Member, Host Rep

    @GameTownProjects said: Has already been answered.

    What virtualization panel do you use??

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @skorupion said:

    @GameTownProjects said: Has already been answered.

    What virtualization panel do you use??

    It's a homemade (in-house) panel -- it does the necessary work and a bit more

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  • @angstrom said:
    It's a homemade (in-house) panel -- it does the necessary work and a bit more

    I've seen at least 2 other hosts with awfully similar panels, one being oran.me.

    Granted in-house doesn't mean exclusive and this could just be a similarity on a frontend framework, just couldn't help but notice.

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @jmgcaguicla said:

    @angstrom said:
    It's a homemade (in-house) panel -- it does the necessary work and a bit more

    I've seen at least 2 other hosts with awfully similar panels, one being oran.me.

    Granted in-house doesn't mean exclusive and this could just be a similarity on a frontend framework, just couldn't help but notice.

    I seem to recall that @GameTownProjects has said the panel is their own development, but perhaps it's a third party that develops the panel.

    In any case, I find the panel to be pretty good and functional.

  • jmgcaguiclajmgcaguicla Member
    edited April 2021

    @angstrom said:
    I seem to recall that @GameTownProjects has said the panel is their own development, but perhaps it's a third party that develops the panel.

    In any case, I find the panel to be pretty good and functional.

    Yeah, not debating the usefulness of the panel. I don't have any problems with it either and in my opinion it's more intuitive than current solutions (SolusVM, Virtualizor).

    Was just trying to figure out if it was a well-skinned commercial panel since I noticed other hosts had it too contradicting their in-house developed claim, can't remember which other host had a similar one aside from the one host I mentioned earlier.

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @jmgcaguicla said:

    @angstrom said:
    I seem to recall that @GameTownProjects has said the panel is their own development, but perhaps it's a third party that develops the panel.

    In any case, I find the panel to be pretty good and functional.

    Yeah, not debating the usefulness of the panel. I don't have any problems with it either and in my opinion it's more intuitive than current solutions (SolusVM, Virtualizor).

    Was just trying to figure out if it was a well-skinned commercial panel since I noticed other hosts had it too contradicting their in-house developed claim, can't remember which other host had a similar one aside from the one host I mentioned earlier.

    A good question -- I couldn't say for certain. But consider:

    • The panel is called "Diamond Panel", now at v1.4. A DuckDuckGo search for "Diamond Panel" doesn't reveal anything relevant.
    • In the panel itself, they have a feature-request list, which would be a bit odd if it weren't their own panel.

    But naturally, this doesn't settle the question. :smile:

  • HaendlerITHaendlerIT Member, Host Rep

    Our panel was developed by us and also used exclusively by us.
    The strong resemblance to other systems is probably due to the template used: https://adminlte.io/themes/AdminLTE/index2.html

    When we are satisfied with the functional scope of the system (according to current planning in the middle of 2022), we will implement a new frontend, which should then also move the sometimes considerable loading times into the background.
    However, we will have to get external help for this, which is why we have not implemented it directly.

    In the feature requests I am always happy to receive feedback and ideas from our customers :) Even though there is still a lot for me to do at the moment.

  • jmgcaguiclajmgcaguicla Member
    edited April 2021

    @GameTownProjects said:
    Our panel was developed by us and also used exclusively by us.
    The strong resemblance to other systems is probably due to the template used: https://adminlte.io/themes/AdminLTE/index2.html

    When we are satisfied with the functional scope of the system (according to current planning in the middle of 2022), we will implement a new frontend, which should then also move the sometimes considerable loading times into the background.
    However, we will have to get external help for this, which is why we have not implemented it directly.

    In the feature requests I am always happy to receive feedback and ideas from our customers :) Even though there is still a lot for me to do at the moment.

    So it was a frontend template. Mystery solved, thanks for the response.

  • Shot2Shot2 Member

    Wasn't KTS24/Gametownprojects/BudgetVM/WhateverHost remarkably buttfukked by script kiddies some months ago ?

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  • @Neoon said: did you expect to really pay 0.29€ per month?

    well, that's what was advertised:

    @GameTownProjects said: VPS Entry for 0,29 € / month

    and even 1,99 is a fraud and misleading advertisement

    @GameTownProjects said: VPS Pro for 1,99 € / month

    cuz this exactly I was going to do:

    @Kebab said: I wanted to buy cheapest one for a year, it shows up as 2.99 for a year, when i click add those credits, it says minimum credits to add is 5 euros...

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  • @Shot2 said:
    Wasn't KTS24/Gametownprojects/BudgetVM/WhateverHost remarkably buttfukked by script kiddies some months ago ?

    April 2019 If I remember correctly. It was their old inhouse dev panel.

  • HaendlerITHaendlerIT Member, Host Rep

    @bleidd said:
    and even 1,99 is a fraud and misleading advertisement

    Quite simply: No it's not.

    @Shot2 said:
    Wasn't KTS24/Gametownprojects/BudgetVM/WhateverHost remarkably buttfukked by script kiddies some months ago ?

    I think it is worth mentioning that despite the hack (on 01.05.2019) and the resulting circumstance of not having a functioning web interface, we were able to keep all customers online at all times and protect their data from the attackers.

  • @GameTownProjects said: Quite simply: No it's not.

    Art. 1116 Code Civil
    “Fraud is a ground for nullity of an agreement when the conduct (manoeuvres) of one of the parties is such that it is evident that, without this conduct, the other party would not have contracted. Fraud will not be presumed and must be proved.”
    Similar: Art. 1439 Codice civile, Art. 1269 Spanish civil code

    Quite simply: Can I use your service for 0,29/0,49/1,99 €/month?
    No I can't.

    Furthermore you're trying to deny obvious things about your crappy payment restrictions instead of accepting that and stating it in your ad, which will make it fair.

  • @bleidd said: cuz this exactly I was going to do:

    So do it. What's 2.99 / 12? Am I missing something?

  • brueggusbrueggus Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @bleidd said:

    @GameTownProjects said: Quite simply: No it's not.

    Art. 1116 Code Civil
    “Fraud is a ground for nullity of an agreement when the conduct (manoeuvres) of one of the parties is such that it is evident that, without this conduct, the other party would not have contracted. Fraud will not be presumed and must be proved.”
    Similar: Art. 1439 Codice civile, Art. 1269 Spanish civil code

    Quite simply: Can I use your service for 0,29/0,49/1,99 €/month?
    No I can't.

    Furthermore you're trying to deny obvious things about your crappy payment restrictions instead of accepting that and stating it in your ad, which will make it fair.

    Now that's a LowEndLawyer!

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