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  • angstromangstrom Member

    @pbx said:

    @angstrom said: find someone who bought it and they could check in the billing panel.

    Payment is 12 month in advance but no minimum contract. Current deal is great as well, though!

    Fee/month (standard): 4,55 € (Includes DE statutory VAT .)
    Minimum contractual term: 0 Months
    Accounting period: all 12 months in advance
    

    Okay, fair enough, I must have misremembered! That was indeed an exceptional deal (but it sold out quickly).

    @angstrom said: Yes, although I find it hard not to have VPSes at a few other providers as well.

    I'm with you there. Biggest problem still hanging out on let: too many tempting offers from a bunch of great providers! :wink:

    Yes, I know the temptation, but this year I'm trying extra hard to resist (given that I already have a number of VPSes). :)

    Thanked by 1pbx

    "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

  • pbxpbx Member
    edited April 9

    @angstrom said: that was indeed an exceptional deal (but it sold out quickly).

    Yes, but yearly contracts aren't a problem if you know that you'll need/use the VPS for a while and trust the company to provide decent service for months/years to come.

    Hourly billing or no minimum contract is nice for some use cases, but for a stable place where to host on the long run, a longer contract is far from being a problem (and most good deals on LET imply yearly payment and no money back, anyway)!

    I try to avoid having too many idling VMs as well. That's also something positive in having a bit too much RAM on a decent VPS/RS: knowing that you can start an LXC container when needed, you can get rid of a couple of shitty VMs elsewhere :smile:!

  • FalzoFalzo Member

    oh lord, our daily dose of VPS Ostern L benchmark give us now:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2020-12-29                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Fri Apr  9 11:25:17 CEST 2021
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Processor  : QEMU Virtual CPU version 2.5+
    CPU cores  : 2 @ 1996.250 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 7.8 GiB
    Swap       : 2.0 GiB
    Disk       : 155.4 GiB
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 36.99 MB/s    (9.2k) | 526.06 MB/s   (8.2k)
    Write      | 37.09 MB/s    (9.2k) | 528.83 MB/s   (8.2k)
    Total      | 74.08 MB/s   (18.5k) | 1.05 GB/s    (16.4k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 1.62 GB/s     (3.1k) | 1.39 GB/s     (1.3k)
    Write      | 1.71 GB/s     (3.3k) | 1.49 GB/s     (1.4k)
    Total      | 3.33 GB/s     (6.5k) | 2.89 GB/s     (2.8k)
    
    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 488                           
    Multi Core      | 626                           
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/7340086
    

    CPU could be better, but it matches what I can see on other 2core VPS, probably just about the average you can expect from it at that price point. feels snappy, lots of ssd space and traffic.
    as said above IMHO only RS M is an even better offer (if you have that budget though)...

    Thanked by 3pbx angstrom dragonfsky

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  • BBTNBBTN Member

    @pbx said:

    @Falzo said: double the RAM and much more SSD for slightly more money. yes, I'd change.

    Yes but only 4 dediziert EPYC cores, while he has 6 E5-2680 v4. CPU-wise it's not going to be better (not that worse either, but keep in mind that it's more expensive).

    @BBTN I'd say it depends what your needs are, and if you could find a good use for extra SSD space and RAM. If yes, the RS M is really nice, as @Falzo said.

    The extra (and faster) SSD space is the only thing I'll really need within the next year or two. But I also can wait, got about 20% free space left. - Otherwise I'm still going with "only" 1gbit/s instead of 2.5 as the actual offers. - I'm still resisting. :D

    Thanked by 2Falzo pbx

    I ain't got no sister.

  • FalzoFalzo Member

    @BBTN said:

    @pbx said:

    @Falzo said: double the RAM and much more SSD for slightly more money. yes, I'd change.

    Yes but only 4 dediziert EPYC cores, while he has 6 E5-2680 v4. CPU-wise it's not going to be better (not that worse either, but keep in mind that it's more expensive).

    @BBTN I'd say it depends what your needs are, and if you could find a good use for extra SSD space and RAM. If yes, the RS M is really nice, as @Falzo said.

    The extra (and faster) SSD space is the only thing I'll really need within the next year or two. But I also can wait, got about 20% free space left. - Otherwise I'm still going with "only" 1gbit/s instead of 2.5 as the actual offers. - I'm still resisting. :D

    you know... if cpu performance isn't so important, then probably the VPS Ostern XL is for you :-P
    still 4 core, but shared and surely a lot weaker than what you have right now. but 10G RAM and 240G ssd space for less than what you pay right now.

    so much options and you know you want 'em all ^^

    Thanked by 2pbx BBTN

    UltraVPS.eu KVM in US/UK/NL/DE: 15% off first 6 month | Netcup VPS/rootDS - 5€ off: 36nc15279180197 (ref)

  • BBTNBBTN Member

    @Falzo said:
    so much options and you know you want 'em all ^^

    THIS! and

    @pbx said:
    I'm with you there. Biggest problem still hanging out on let: too many tempting offers from a bunch of great providers!

    so much of THIS! o:)

    Thanked by 2pbx Falzo

    I ain't got no sister.

  • pbxpbx Member
    edited April 11

    @Falzo said: CPU could be better

    Is your performance better now? This makes me curious as I get better CPU performance on my similar VPS (but different promo), and it's been stable since I bought it [geekbench is run from within an LXD guest]:

    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 739                           
    Multi Core      | 1207                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/7377858
    

    I'd like to know more as that would tell us what can be expected from these AMD based VPSs and how wise (or not) it is to chose these vs a RS. You said that your bench "matches what I can see on other 2core VPS", did you mean with Netcup or more generally?

    If other folks have a VPS Ostern L / VPS 1000 G9: any geekbench / yabs you could share? Thank you :smile:

  • FalzoFalzo Member

    @pbx said: Is your performance better now?

    no, nothing changed. still 450-480 single / 620-660 multi. as said before this matches one older G8/xeon 2core vps.

    of course I would have liked it more, if it had stayed closer to the initial result, but I guess you can't have everything 🤷‍♂️
    for my usecase these numbers are totally fine anyway and the RAM+SSD upgrade was already totally worth it.

    to be fair I don't expect it to get better very fast. it's 12 months contracts so won't be much dropout very soon. maybe they catch a few abuser if there then are some complaints coming in. but the nodes will be packed for a while and who knows what crapton of shitload the neighbours are running.

    it seems to be somehow balanced though, as the performance does not degrade any further, no matter the times I run the benchmark. will keep an eye on it for a bit longer anyway...

    Thanked by 1pbx

    UltraVPS.eu KVM in US/UK/NL/DE: 15% off first 6 month | Netcup VPS/rootDS - 5€ off: 36nc15279180197 (ref)

  • bobebobe Member

    hello
    netcup RS Fast Rabbit OST21 Root-Server 39,99 €
    Already bought one, now need two machines, deliberately seeking to buy one
    ths

  • sanvitsanvit Member

    @bobe said:
    hello
    netcup RS Fast Rabbit OST21 Root-Server 39,99 €
    Already bought one, now need two machines, deliberately seeking to buy one
    ths

    On pure curiosity, what do you run on those beasts?

  • bobebobe Member

    Data Programs

  • FalzoFalzo Member

    @bobe said:
    Data Programs

    lol... good luck though. maybe try their forums, I think they do have a market place...

    UltraVPS.eu KVM in US/UK/NL/DE: 15% off first 6 month | Netcup VPS/rootDS - 5€ off: 36nc15279180197 (ref)

  • bobebobe Member

    ths

  • pbxpbx Member
    edited April 12

    @Falzo said: as said before this matches one older G8/xeon 2core vps

    Yeah but as you say it's an older CPU, that's why I'd have expected more. You're probably on a very busy node!

    @bobe said: netcup RS Fast Rabbit OST21 Root-Server 39,99 € Already bought one, now need two machines, deliberately seeking to buy one

    Not impossible that an impulse buyer gets back to you in the coming days. Good luck! Why didn't you grab a second one yesterday, when they were still available?

  • bobebobe Member

    Only a few hours ago the technician told me that two machines were needed, and I was angry about it

    Thanked by 1pbx
  • @Falzo said:

    oh lord, our daily dose of VPS Ostern L benchmark give us now:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    > #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    > #                     v2020-12-29                    #
    > # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    > # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    > 
    > Fri Apr  9 11:25:17 CEST 2021
    > 
    > Basic System Information:
    > ---------------------------------
    > Processor  : QEMU Virtual CPU version 2.5+
    > CPU cores  : 2 @ 1996.250 MHz
    > AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    > VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    > RAM        : 7.8 GiB
    > Swap       : 2.0 GiB
    > Disk       : 155.4 GiB
    > 
    > fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    > ---------------------------------
    > Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
    >   ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    > Read       | 36.99 MB/s    (9.2k) | 526.06 MB/s   (8.2k)
    > Write      | 37.09 MB/s    (9.2k) | 528.83 MB/s   (8.2k)
    > Total      | 74.08 MB/s   (18.5k) | 1.05 GB/s    (16.4k)
    >            |                      |
    > Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
    >   ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    > Read       | 1.62 GB/s     (3.1k) | 1.39 GB/s     (1.3k)
    > Write      | 1.71 GB/s     (3.3k) | 1.49 GB/s     (1.4k)
    > Total      | 3.33 GB/s     (6.5k) | 2.89 GB/s     (2.8k)
    > 
    > Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
    > ---------------------------------
    > Test            | Value                         
    >                 |                               
    > Single Core     | 488                           
    > Multi Core      | 626                           
    > Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/7340086
    > 

    CPU could be better, but it matches what I can see on other 2core VPS, probably just about the average you can expect from it at that price point. feels snappy, lots of ssd space and traffic.
    as said above IMHO only RS M is an even better offer (if you have that budget though)...

    For comparison, I've just run a fresh YABS on my VPS 1000 G9 BF20 (skipping the network performance test), which has the same specs as VPS Ostern L OST21 -- see below.

    @Falzo , indeed, it looks like you're on a busy node (or the server was especially busy at that moment).

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2020-12-29                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Tue 13 Apr 2021 06:12:45 PM CEST
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Processor  : QEMU Virtual CPU version 2.5+
    CPU cores  : 2 @ 1996.248 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 7.8 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 157.4 GiB
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 57.67 MB/s   (14.4k) | 737.27 MB/s  (11.5k)
    Write      | 57.75 MB/s   (14.4k) | 741.15 MB/s  (11.5k)
    Total      | 115.43 MB/s  (28.8k) | 1.47 GB/s    (23.0k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 2.90 GB/s     (5.6k) | 2.95 GB/s     (2.8k)
    Write      | 3.05 GB/s     (5.9k) | 3.15 GB/s     (3.0k)
    Total      | 5.95 GB/s    (11.6k) | 6.11 GB/s     (5.9k)
    
    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 746
    Multi Core      | 1158
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/7402776
    
    Thanked by 2Falzo pbx

    "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

  • FalzoFalzo Member

    @angstrom said: @Falzo , indeed, it looks like you're on a busy node (or the server was especially busy at that moment).

    yeah busy node, probably just unlucky then I guess.
    assuming a shitload of noisy neighbours trying mining crap or torrenting the hell out of it until they get caught.

    I am not complaining though, as mentioned before it seems to be balanced in a way and the numbers I am seeing are constant, so I can take this as somewhat guarantued.
    also my old 2c BF19 VPS had comparable cpu bench even though that was intel, I am not losing out on anything here most of the 'better performance' would idle only anyway 🤷‍♂️

    still benching every other day out of curiosity, but not really expecting it to increase any time soon. I even thought a moment about trying their support for the first time and put in a ticket requesting a node change, but nah... in the end I don't really give a f*ck.

    Thanked by 2pbx angstrom

    UltraVPS.eu KVM in US/UK/NL/DE: 15% off first 6 month | Netcup VPS/rootDS - 5€ off: 36nc15279180197 (ref)

  • pbxpbx Member

    @angstrom said: For comparison, I've just run a fresh YABS on my VPS 1000 G9 BF20 (skipping the network performance test), which has the same specs as VPS Ostern L OST21 -- see below.

    Thanks. Similar to what I have on my VPS 1000 G9 WSV21. So we can assume that @Falzo results don't necessarily represent the whole VPS branch.

    @Falzo said: still benching every other day out of curiosity, but not really expecting it to increase any time soon. I even thought a moment about trying their support for the first time and put in a ticket requesting a node change, but nah... in the end I don't really give a f*ck.

    You're right, more idling power isn't always a necessity! It can change in the future, if the heavy users move to a RS or another provider... Anyway if that's the worst case scenario, that's no big deal, these is enough CPU power for most tasks and a freaking lot of iops on this VPS!

    Thanked by 1angstrom
  • FalzoFalzo Member

    @pbx said: Anyway if that's the worst case scenario, that's no big deal, these is enough CPU power for most tasks and a freaking lot of iops on this VPS!

    exactly. the most interesting part in that deal was the size and speed of storage provided. I tend to panic when I have less than 50% free, so 40->160 is a nice upgrade for about 1€ more ;-)

    Thanked by 1pbx

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  • @Falzo said: I am not complaining though, as mentioned before it seems to be balanced in a way and the numbers I am seeing are constant, so I can take this as somewhat guarantued.

    Yeah, I mean, the scores aren't abnormally low, and there's a consistency that suggests some sort of balancing, so it's not so bad (and may improve with time if there are abusers who they catch). :)

    Thanked by 1pbx

    "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

  • pbxpbx Member

    @Falzo said: 40->160 is a nice upgrade for about 1€ more ;-)

    It was a pretty good deal, and it's a little VM that can do a lot of things! :smile:

  • wuckwuck Member

    Does anyone have any experience with their storage expansion (on a root server)? Is the storage as fast?

  • pbxpbx Member

    @wuck said: their storage expansion

    Never tried it yet, would be interesting to see how it performs. It's probably slower than the local SSD storage. They don't specify that it's SSD based, so I'd consider it to be HDD based but not sure:

    This storage space is located on an external storage cluster and is available for shared use, i.e. for use by multiple servers and even external clients. The storage space is addressed using NFS. Clients are registered to use the storage space via their IP address.

  • bobebobe Member

    I can't find the option to reinstall the OS UBUNTU 18.04 inside the panel, what should I do? Please help

  • FalzoFalzo Member
    edited April 15

    @bobe said: what should I do

    maybe open your eyes and learn something called 'reading' for starters?

    it's in the server control panel under media/images.

    https://www.netcup-wiki.de/wiki/Server_Control_Panel_(SCP)#Images

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  • bobebobe Member

    ths

  • @danielcardosopt said:
    Finally got the 1.89€ VPS !!! :smiley:
    If anyone is looking for a VPS Karneval 2020 I'm willing to sell mine.

    2 Cores
    4 GB of RAM
    160 GB of Disk
    3.33€ per month (DE statutory VAT)

    What are the terms of the transaction?

  • @garyvalue said:

    @danielcardosopt said:
    Finally got the 1.89€ VPS !!! :smiley:
    If anyone is looking for a VPS Karneval 2020 I'm willing to sell mine.

    2 Cores
    4 GB of RAM
    160 GB of Disk
    3.33€ per month (DE statutory VAT)

    What are the terms of the transaction?

    This package can use the transfer code to transfer directly without transfer fees

    My favorite providers : hostsolutions hosthatch

  • @garyvalue said:
    What are the terms of the transaction?

    Sorry, it’s long gone now.

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member

    Can anyone help with the steps to cancel yearly contract with NetCup in 14 days with no further obligations?

    Thank you

  • angstromangstrom Member
    edited April 18

    @dev_vps said:
    Can anyone help with the steps to cancel yearly contract with NetCup in 14 days with no further obligations?

    If you have a yearly contract, then you need to submit a cancellation request at least 31 days before the end of the contract period. (You can do this in the billing panel.)

    If you have a yearly contract, then there's no way to leave the contract before the contract period has ended. (At best, you could try to find someone to transfer the server to, who would take over the contract.)

    Edit: Or see below.

    Thanked by 1ariq01

    "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

  • pbxpbx Member

    @dev_vps said: cancel yearly contract with NetCup in 14 days with no further obligations?

    If you mean the first 14 days, it's easy just click on the cancel button on the CCP.
    Go to Products > select the product you want to cancel and go to the tab Cancellation. There should be a button there to cancel. If done during the first 14 days cancellation is automated. I assume that the button disappears after 14 days, be sure to be in time!

    Thanked by 2angstrom dev_vps
  • angstromangstrom Member
    edited April 18

    @pbx said:

    @dev_vps said: cancel yearly contract with NetCup in 14 days with no further obligations?

    If you mean the first 14 days, it's easy just click on the cancel button on the CCP.
    Go to Products > select the product you want to cancel and go to the tab Cancellation. There should be a button there to cancel. If done during the first 14 days cancellation is automated. I assume that the button disappears after 14 days, be sure to be in time!

    Oh, I see, @dev_vps meant within the first 14 days, in which case your answer is more pertinent than mine :)

    Thanked by 1pbx

    "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member

    @pbx said:

    @dev_vps said: cancel yearly contract with NetCup in 14 days with no further obligations?

    If you mean the first 14 days, it's easy just click on the cancel button on the CCP.
    Go to Products > select the product you want to cancel and go to the tab Cancellation. There should be a button there to cancel. If done during the first 14 days cancellation is automated. I assume that the button disappears after 14 days, be sure to be in time!

    Thank you .... thank you .... thank you
    cancellation worked perfectly

    😀

    Thanked by 1pbx
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