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Confused about shared hosting and VPS speeds.

rayrenerayrene Member

I have been using shared hosting all my life. Recently I created a woocommerce site and moved it from hostgator to veerotech and then to hostmantis.

Hostgator was really slow to load (5-10 seconds) I moved to veerotech shared hosting, pages loaded faster but CPU hit 100% when editing products and was impossible to make backups using popular pluggins.

I moved to hostmantis premium shared (2.5 CPU, 4Gb ram) GTmetrix results are better and CPU hardly hits 20% when making backups and 5% when editing products.

A lot of people say VPS are better than shared hosting, but as I understand, VPS and shared hosting can be oversold, so they look similar to me.

The only way to see if VPS is faster is paying a month of service?

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  • verovero Member, Provider
    edited March 18

    I always recommend my clients going with VPS, as you have separate environment, including IP address, and can tune everything as required for specific project. Performance increases in a following manner: Shared -> VPS -> VDS (virtual dedicated server) -> Dedicated (bare metal).

    Edit. I was talking about managed servers (don't even offer other options).

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  • There are good and bad products. Shared can outperform an oversold VPS and vice versa.

    The problem that you might encounter with a VPS is that you need to setup everything manually and keep the VPS constantly updated.

    If you don't feel comfortable doing that - find a non-oversold shared hosting, and use that.

  • WSCallumWSCallum Member, Provider

    What i'd say is don't fix what's not broken - If you're fine on the HostMantis plan with higher resources stick with it. A VPS will be more costly if you add in management, licensing costs etc.

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  • seriesnseriesn Member, Top Provider

    @WSCallum said:
    What i'd say is don't fix what's not broken - If you're fine on the HostMantis plan with higher resources stick with it. A VPS will be more costly if you add in management, licensing costs etc.

    This right there!

    Having access to higher resource (cpu and memory) will always help regardless of the platform.

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  • I would stay with Hostmantis if I were in your shoes. I suggest not changing something which is working as desired & not causing any issues.

    If you are not familiar with server management then you should first either install Linux on a VM on your PC/Laptop or get a VPS from a reliable provider in order to learn & practice.

    Alternatively you may choose a managed VPS.

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  • verovero Member, Provider

    Don't listen, most of these providers are selling cheap VPSes and they just don't want (or even can't) waste support time on inexperienced users. They even offer control panel licenses unnaturally cheaply, which in tandem with powerful cheap VPSes are total any shared or reseller plan killers. Those are high resources and decent platforms for pennies. Take your time to learn and don't be afraid to piss them off, as if they have time for daily fishing here, they can definitely devote themselves more to clients.

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  • jsgjsg Member

    @Shoaib_A said:
    Alternatively you may choose a managed VPS.

    ... which would be massively more expensive but not necessarily faster.

    OP seems to be happy with Hostmantis and should simply stay there and focus on his sales rather than on technicalities.

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  • rayrenerayrene Member

    Thank you all for your comments. I will follow your advise. I will buy a cheap VPS and learn. Right now If my VPS gets attacked/hacked I wouldn't know what to do.

  • darbdarb Member

    It is a big jump, unless you have the linux skills already.

    Big jump but worth it, if you like to tinker and learn. Otherwise maybe reconsider and just say with a solid shared hosting provider.

    If you do want to play, I would suggest getting a free domain name (here) and a cheap VPS and play around for a few months first.

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  • veltonvelton Member

    @rayrene said:
    I have been using shared hosting all my life. Recently I created a woocommerce site and moved it from hostgator to veerotech and then to hostmantis.

    Hostgator was really slow to load (5-10 seconds) I moved to veerotech shared hosting, pages loaded faster but CPU hit 100% when editing products and was impossible to make backups using popular pluggins.

    I moved to hostmantis premium shared (2.5 CPU, 4Gb ram) GTmetrix results are better and CPU hardly hits 20% when making backups and 5% when editing products.

    A lot of people say VPS are better than shared hosting, but as I understand, VPS and shared hosting can be oversold, so they look similar to me.

    The only way to see if VPS is faster is paying a month of service?

    i having same issue for cpu hit 100% when I'm editing Wordpress with elementor. now I know that is some junk cpu shared hosting. i would better stay away from my current provider.

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  • The problem is most people use WooCommerce incorrectly -- it wasn't originally meant to be a platform that supports hundreds of thousands of items -- really its made for a small web store. Though many instead of moving to a better product as they grow just add more and more crappy written plugins and more items without including any caching or optimization. The memory usage for most medium sized WooCommerce stores is going to exceed the available memory on most shared platforms or won't have enough memory to run efficiently. Additionally, most shared platforms don't provide the caching which you should really be using (redis or memcache) should you insist on running a larger web store with WooCommerce.

    Another thing that impacts this is the number of items you display on a per page basis and what inventory based information you are forcing it to retrieve during the page load. I have seen web stores where they have 16 items loading on a page and each item has to complete an inventory call before the page can load, so before a single page load can complete your waiting 10-15 seconds just for all the inventory calls to complete. This can also occur from using the default database calls in a lot of the WooCommerce plugins instead of actually reviewing the calls, creating indexes and optimizing the queries, as most of the plugins written for WooCommerce are written poorly.

    In summary, if you are serious about running a web store with WooCommerce you should move into a VPS with adequate memory / CPU resources and setup caching services (such as memcache or redis) which usually are not provided with a shared hosting account. Failing that, be sure to actually review the code you are using and optimize it / it's database queries, as this is usually a major cause of slow loading times.

    my 2 cents.

    Cheers!

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  • All the big hosts in the market oversell their hosting resources this is why you have Perfomance issues with blue host or hiring 100% cpu with other hosts .
    I suggest your find a web host that offers litespeed premium webserver (so you can take advantage of lscache, optimize your website (do you use a site builder ?), and basically a smaller decent host will provide you more money for value .
    Small hosting companies can get more personal with you as well and provide some inside of the reason why your website is using so many resources or offer free troubleshoot in exchange of good reviews .

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  • Ragas78Ragas78 Member

    @rayrene said:
    I have been using shared hosting all my life. Recently I created a woocommerce site and moved it from hostgator to veerotech and then to hostmantis.

    Hostgator was really slow to load (5-10 seconds) I moved to veerotech shared hosting, pages loaded faster but CPU hit 100% when editing products and was impossible to make backups using popular pluggins.

    I moved to hostmantis premium shared (2.5 CPU, 4Gb ram) GTmetrix results are better and CPU hardly hits 20% when making backups and 5% when editing products.

    A lot of people say VPS are better than shared hosting, but as I understand, VPS and shared hosting can be oversold, so they look similar to me.

    The only way to see if VPS is faster is paying a month of service?

    Not a huge fan of hostgator for woocommerce. I would go for Bluehost India for woocommerce hosting or WP/eCommerce type of a website.

    What you just asked makes total sense.

    In all honesty, VPS is making your shared more secure and private with a few more resources with better tech (KVM).

    But if you want to try out VPS for demo, maybe try it out for a month and then decide. But if your site is going to be WooCommerce, then stick to a specialist like Bluehost India.

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  • JasonMJasonM Member

    @rayrene said: A lot of people say VPS are better than shared hosting, but as I understand, VPS and shared hosting can be oversold, so they look similar to me.The only way to see if VPS is faster is paying a month of service

    For heavy plugin like WooCommerce you should go for a VPS at atleast 3GB RAM and 2 or 3 vCPU. 1GB RAM for OS, webserver, etc, 500 MB for WordPress and another 500 MB for heavy-weight Plugins and processing of database plus 1GB spare for non-cached pages, and other tasks.

    A shared hosting with 3GB or 2.5GB RAM will work initially but as your Store grows with many products then a VPS will be quite handy. Shared Hosting has fair-share of CPU/RAM usage which is around 15% to 25%, but for VPS you can get dedicated RAM and CPU (with some providers) and thus you sites can load faster!

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  • rayrenerayrene Member

    In summary, if you are serious about running a web store with WooCommerce you should move into a VPS with adequate memory / CPU resources and setup caching services (such as memcache or redis) which usually are not provided with a shared hosting account. Failing that, be sure to actually review the code you are using and optimize it / it's database queries, as this is usually a major cause of slow loading times.

    I am using redis and memcache right now, they are one of the few that offer that in shared hosting. Thank you for all the information.

  • Think about this. Shared hosting servers could have something like 32 GB ram and give out ram limits of 1 GB to hundreds if not thousands of websites. Hostmantis is probably quite good based on reviews I have seen, but don't expect to be able to use the "4 GB" of ram. There's also the issue of fair share cpu which usually tends to be very restrictive for shared hosting.

    But it likely won't be a problem if you don't have too much traffic.

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  • AndreixAndreix Member, Provider

    @rayrene said:
    A lot of people say VPS are better than shared hosting, but as I understand, VPS and shared hosting can be oversold, so they look similar to me.

    Well, as long as it's virtual, anything can be oversold in a way or another.
    However, this is the part where the provider reputation kicks in.

    If you buy a VM from some shady website, sure, it may be oversold.

    If you buy a VM from a reputable company with some history, known to people, having positive reviews... etc., it's less likely to have a shitty service.

    Wanna avoid overselling at all possible costs, go bare metal. However, there are other resources that can be oversold, like internet connection for example... .
    So, again, go with a reputable company. :)

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