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AnonekoAnoneko Member
edited March 2021 in General

I have a site that only provides a reverse proxy and does not host any content, which received a DMCA complaint send to the hosting provider (usually only to Google).
The provider said that I should forward the complaint to the original site, so I just forward the complaint email to them?
What else do I need to accomplish when I am sure they will not care about the DMCA?

Comments

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited March 2021

    Reply and say “Here is the URL to the website that hosts this content. I do not host this content, I am only providing a tunnel to it through a technology called reverse proxy. This means my connection to the content is similar in scope to a VPN or a residential ISP’s relation to websites their customers visit, providing only a tunnel and not hosting the content.” Then when they ask you to forward it for them, ignore them. You gave them what they needed to know.

    At most reply with “I have given you the external source and fulfilled my obligations. I do not have time to track down the content owner on your behalf as I have no relationship with them. I am equally as connected to this content owner as Comcast is connected to PornHub. The obligation to understand this type of connectivity is currently your burden.”

    So long as your provider supports you in that response, and you will need them on board for it, then your job is done. If they can’t do their homework and understand the relationship, they’re going to have a poor time filing a lawsuit that amounts to anything.

  • LeviLevi Member

    If he will reply than shit will hit the fan. Discontinue that "reverse proxy" immediatelly and forget it. Cloudflare, for example, is attacked by copyright cartels very successfully, even if they only are "reverse proxy".

  • @jar said:
    Reply and say “Here is the URL to the website that hosts this content. I do not host this content, I am only providing a tunnel to it through a technology called reverse proxy. This means my connection to the content is similar in scope to a VPN or a residential ISP’s relation to websites their customers visit, providing only a tunnel and not hosting the content.” Then when they ask you to forward it for them, ignore them. You gave them what they needed to know.

    At most reply with “I have given you the external source and fulfilled my obligations. I do not have time to track down the content owner on your behalf as I have no relationship with them. I am equally as connected to this content owner as Comcast is connected to PornHub. The obligation to understand this type of connectivity is currently your burden.”

    So long as your provider supports you in that response, and you will need them on board for it, then your job is done. If they can’t do their homework and understand the relationship, they’re going to have a poor time filing a lawsuit that amounts to anything.

    Very helpful, thank you. If the complaint continues to occur, I will also consider moving it to some EU countries or Russia to reduce the trouble to the provider.

  • @LTniger said:
    If he will reply than shit will hit the fan. Discontinue that "reverse proxy" immediatelly and forget it. Cloudflare, for example, is attacked by copyright cartels very successfully, even if they only are "reverse proxy".

    In fact, the complaint was forwarded by Cloudflare, and they did label themselves as a "reverse proxy" in the email. I don't know if this will exempt them, or any IP addresses through which copyrighted content passes have liability?

  • LeviLevi Member
    edited March 2021

    @Anoneko said:

    @LTniger said:
    If he will reply than shit will hit the fan. Discontinue that "reverse proxy" immediatelly and forget it. Cloudflare, for example, is attacked by copyright cartels very successfully, even if they only are "reverse proxy".

    In fact, the complaint was forwarded by Cloudflare, and they did label themselves as a "reverse proxy" in the email. I don't know if this will exempt them, or any IP addresses through which copyrighted content passes have liability?

    This question would be a debate in court which participant you don't want to be. Act now, do not wait.

  • @LTniger said:

    @Anoneko said:

    @LTniger said:
    If he will reply than shit will hit the fan. Discontinue that "reverse proxy" immediatelly and forget it. Cloudflare, for example, is attacked by copyright cartels very successfully, even if they only are "reverse proxy".

    In fact, the complaint was forwarded by Cloudflare, and they did label themselves as a "reverse proxy" in the email. I don't know if this will exempt them, or any IP addresses through which copyrighted content passes have liability?

    This question would be a debate in court which participant you don't want to be. Act now, do not wait.

    I don't need to worry about this part, still appreciate your comment.

  • @Anoneko said:

    @jar said:
    Reply and say “Here is the URL to the website that hosts this content. I do not host this content, I am only providing a tunnel to it through a technology called reverse proxy. This means my connection to the content is similar in scope to a VPN or a residential ISP’s relation to websites their customers visit, providing only a tunnel and not hosting the content.” Then when they ask you to forward it for them, ignore them. You gave them what they needed to know.

    At most reply with “I have given you the external source and fulfilled my obligations. I do not have time to track down the content owner on your behalf as I have no relationship with them. I am equally as connected to this content owner as Comcast is connected to PornHub. The obligation to understand this type of connectivity is currently your burden.”

    So long as your provider supports you in that response, and you will need them on board for it, then your job is done. If they can’t do their homework and understand the relationship, they’re going to have a poor time filing a lawsuit that amounts to anything.

    Very helpful, thank you. If the complaint continues to occur, I will also consider moving it to some EU countries or Russia to reduce the trouble to the provider.

    you better do.
    It's their duty to shutdown your site if your site was abused

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