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pakhost · February 1

PakCloudHost is Pakistan based registered web hosting company. We are pleased to offer shared hosting to LET clients with following features:

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We are offering following Packages:
Package: Basic (Hosting Only)
2GB Web Space
10GB Bandwidth
1 ٖFTP Account
5 Email Account
1 MySQL Database
1 Subdomain
Price: $8.38/year
Order Link: https://www.pakcloudhost.com/clientarea/cart.php?a=add&pid=17

Package: Basic Plus (Hosting Only)
5GB Web Space
25GB Bandwidth
3 ٖFTP Account
30 Email Account
10 MySQL Database
30 Subdomain
3 Addon Domains
3 Parked Domains
Price: $12.73/year
Order Link: https://www.pakcloudhost.com/clientarea/cart.php?a=add&pid=18

Package: Medium (Hosting Only)
10GB Web Space
50GB Bandwidth
10 ٖFTP Accounts
50 Email Accounts
30 MySQL Databases
50 Subdomains
10 Addon Domains
10 Parked Domains
Price: $17.09/year
Order Link: https://www.pakcloudhost.com/clientarea/cart.php?a=add&pid=19

Payment method:
PayPal
[Note: PayPal Fees ($0.30 + 9.85%) will be applicable.]

Regards

Unbelievable · February 1

Does paypal TOS allow you to add on paypal fees selectively like you are doing? And your site says in association with liquidnet us and liquidweb ltd - are you simply just a reseller?

Jio · February 1

@Unbelievable said: Does paypal TOS allow you to add on paypal fees selectively like you are doing?

Paypal TOS "No Surcharges. You agree that you will not impose a surcharge or any other fee for accepting PayPal as a payment method" is in what I am agreed to

pakhost · February 1

@Unbelievable said:
your site says in association with liquidnet us and liquidweb ltd - are you simply just a reseller?

You are right. But the service, I offered is totally mine own. I have not purchased any resellership in it.

Unbelievable · February 1

Do they know you are using their company names?

pakhost · February 1

@Unbelievable: Does paypal TOS allow you to add on paypal fees selectively like you are doing?

@Jio said:
Paypal TOS "No Surcharges. You agree that you will not impose a surcharge or any other fee for accepting PayPal as a payment method" is in what I am agreed to

Can you please guide its TOS link.

Unbelievable · February 1

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#accepting-payments

Its not that hard to actually find and read what your vendor, your ONLY financial vendor, sends you

pakhost · February 1

@Unbelievable said:
Do they know you are using their company names?

If I offer their services on LET, then I have to let them know. However, I am not offering their services.

pakhost · February 1

@Unbelievable said:
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#accepting-payments

Its not that hard to actually find and read what your vendor, your ONLY financial vendor, sends you

Thanks for providing the link. I think it can be supposed as handling fee.
PayPal TOS: You may charge a handling fee in connection with the sale of goods or services as long as the handling fee does not operate as a surcharge and is not higher than the handling fee you charge for non-PayPal transactions.

Jio · February 1

What kind of paypal fee is 10% per transaction?

pakhost · February 1

@Jio said:
What kind of paypal fee is 10% per transaction?

PayPal is not charging any fix fee on transactions. So I set this value

seriesn · February 1

@pakhost said:

@Unbelievable said:
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#accepting-payments

Its not that hard to actually find and read what your vendor, your ONLY financial vendor, sends you

Thanks for providing the link. I think it can be supposed as handling fee.
PayPal TOS: You may charge a handling fee in connection with the sale of goods or services as long as the handling fee does not operate as a surcharge and is not higher than the handling fee you charge for non-PayPal transactions.

Bud,
Congrats on starting your business. Hopefully you will get a lot of success.

Take an advice from someone who wants everyone to succeed, you don’t want to bullshit let crowd. Neither your vendors.

All the best

Unbelievable · February 1

@pakhost - but do you charge it for EasyPaisa/JazzCash? I dont think so. Hence its not a handling fee- its a surcharge (but you know this anyway and Im wasting my time)

pakhost · February 1

@seriesn said:

@pakhost said:

@Unbelievable said:
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#accepting-payments

Its not that hard to actually find and read what your vendor, your ONLY financial vendor, sends you

Thanks for providing the link. I think it can be supposed as handling fee.
PayPal TOS: You may charge a handling fee in connection with the sale of goods or services as long as the handling fee does not operate as a surcharge and is not higher than the handling fee you charge for non-PayPal transactions.

Bud,
Congrats on starting your business. Hopefully you will get a lot of success.

Take an advice from someone who wants everyone to succeed, you don’t want to bullshit let crowd. Neither your vendors.

All the best

Thanks for your kind wishes. I assure I will not bullshit to anyone. I will give respect to all.

pakhost · February 1

@Unbelievable said:
@pakhost - but do you charge it for EasyPaisa/JazzCash? I dont think so. Hence its not a handling fee- its a surcharge (but you know this anyway and Im wasting my time)

No fee I am being charged on EasyPaisa/JazzCash, so I have not applied any fee on it.

Unbelievable · February 1

so you broke the handling fee provision of paypal by doing that. I suggest you clarify your relationship with the companies you say you are associated with and clarify the handling/surcharge fee with paypal. I get the impression you are a reseller of a reseller (based on the company id line). Its similar to what godaddy set up for their resellers (I know you arent godaddy reseller). One support number for all resellers and company id is used to sort a customer when they call in.

pakhost · February 1

Okay fine. You means I am over-charging to clients by applying PayPal fee?

pakhost · February 1

@Unbelievable said:
so you broke the handling fee provision of paypal by doing that. I suggest you clarify your relationship with the companies you say you are associated with and clarify the handling/surcharge fee with paypal. I get the impression you are a reseller of a reseller (based on the company id line). Its similar to what godaddy set up for their resellers (I know you arent godaddy reseller). One support number for all resellers and company id is used to sort a customer when they call in.

I am not reseller of a reseller, the services I have now offered on LET are totally mine. I am not cheating to LET users by offering services offered in first post.

kasodk · February 1

@pakhost said:

@Unbelievable said:
so you broke the handling fee provision of paypal by doing that. I suggest you clarify your relationship with the companies you say you are associated with and clarify the handling/surcharge fee with paypal. I get the impression you are a reseller of a reseller (based on the company id line). Its similar to what godaddy set up for their resellers (I know you arent godaddy reseller). One support number for all resellers and company id is used to sort a customer when they call in.

I am not reseller of a reseller, the services I have now offered on LET are totally mine. I am not cheating to LET users by offering services offered in first post.

https://www.whmcs.com/members/verifydomain.php gives the following result for pakcloudhost.com: This domain is not authorized to be using WHMCS.
This seems a little odd. Why can I not verify your WHMCS license?

pakhost · February 1

@kasodk said:

@pakhost said:

@Unbelievable said:
so you broke the handling fee provision of paypal by doing that. I suggest you clarify your relationship with the companies you say you are associated with and clarify the handling/surcharge fee with paypal. I get the impression you are a reseller of a reseller (based on the company id line). Its similar to what godaddy set up for their resellers (I know you arent godaddy reseller). One support number for all resellers and company id is used to sort a customer when they call in.

I am not reseller of a reseller, the services I have now offered on LET are totally mine. I am not cheating to LET users by offering services offered in first post.

https://www.whmcs.com/members/verifydomain.php gives the following result for pakcloudhost.com: This domain is not authorized to be using WHMCS.
This seems a little odd. Why can I not verify your WHMCS license?

Thanks for highlighting. I resolve it

kasodk · February 1

@pakhost said:

@kasodk said:

@pakhost said:

@Unbelievable said:
so you broke the handling fee provision of paypal by doing that. I suggest you clarify your relationship with the companies you say you are associated with and clarify the handling/surcharge fee with paypal. I get the impression you are a reseller of a reseller (based on the company id line). Its similar to what godaddy set up for their resellers (I know you arent godaddy reseller). One support number for all resellers and company id is used to sort a customer when they call in.

I am not reseller of a reseller, the services I have now offered on LET are totally mine. I am not cheating to LET users by offering services offered in first post.

https://www.whmcs.com/members/verifydomain.php gives the following result for pakcloudhost.com: This domain is not authorized to be using WHMCS.
This seems a little odd. Why can I not verify your WHMCS license?

Thanks for highlighting. I resolve it

Can I get an IP address for the server with CloudLinux, cPanel, Litespeed, etc. so I can verify the licenses before I buy one of your hosting offers?

yoursunny · February 1

@kasodk said:

@pakhost said:

@Unbelievable said:
so you broke the handling fee provision of paypal by doing that. I suggest you clarify your relationship with the companies you say you are associated with and clarify the handling/surcharge fee with paypal. I get the impression you are a reseller of a reseller (based on the company id line). Its similar to what godaddy set up for their resellers (I know you arent godaddy reseller). One support number for all resellers and company id is used to sort a customer when they call in.

I am not reseller of a reseller, the services I have now offered on LET are totally mine. I am not cheating to LET users by offering services offered in first post.

https://www.whmcs.com/members/verifydomain.php gives the following result for pakcloudhost.com: This domain is not authorized to be using WHMCS.
This seems a little odd. Why can I not verify your WHMCS license?

Done.
WHMCS Ticket VLC-432451 - pakcloudhost.com - This domain is not authorized to be using WHMCS

Marcooo · February 1

typo?

pakhost · February 1

@Marcooo said:
typo?

I am sorry typo means?

Unbelievable · February 1

a small mistake in a text made when it was typed or printed = typo. Thats the second thing I googled for you. Use google first - it really helps you when you are confused.

Jio · February 1

I think portion people was getting upset about is the liquidnet part. Liquidnet is free reseller hosting like byethost where it's actually an affiliate scheme and not a real reseller, which is not allowed here.

If you were selling non-hepsia non-liquidnet I don't see complaint.

yoursunny · February 1

I'm getting upset because of this:

Using a nulled WHMCS (or other nulled billing software) grants you and your company a lifetime ban on LET.

Probably WHMCS broken

webclouddev · February 2

@yoursunny said:
I'm getting upset because of this:

Using a nulled WHMCS (or other nulled billing software) grants you and your company a lifetime ban on LET.

Probably WHMCS broken

Yeah i dont think so that's the case with this one

pakhost · February 2

@kasodk @yoursunny @webclouddev @Unbelievable
Actually I was busy and could not check WHMCS renewal invoice email. That's why my WHMCS license expired. However, I just renewed it and it is working fine now.

kasodk · February 2

@pakhost said:

@Unbelievable said:
so you broke the handling fee provision of paypal by doing that. I suggest you clarify your relationship with the companies you say you are associated with and clarify the handling/surcharge fee with paypal. I get the impression you are a reseller of a reseller (based on the company id line). Its similar to what godaddy set up for their resellers (I know you arent godaddy reseller). One support number for all resellers and company id is used to sort a customer when they call in.

I am not reseller of a reseller, the services I have now offered on LET are totally mine. I am not cheating to LET users by offering services offered in first post.

Since you have the same phone numbers for support as https://www.resellerspanel.com/, you are a reseller. It's not your services.

@pakhost said:
@kasodk @yoursunny @webclouddev @Unbelievable
Actually I was busy and could not check WHMCS renewal invoice email. That's why my WHMCS license expired. However, I just renewed it and it is working fine now.

So you think we are so stupid that we believe this.

pakhost · February 2

@pakhost said:
Package: Basic (Hosting Only)
2GB Web Space
10GB Bandwidth
1 ٖFTP Account
5 Email Account
1 MySQL Database
1 Subdomain
Price: $8.38/year
Order Link: https://www.pakcloudhost.com/clientarea/cart.php?a=add&pid=17

Package: Basic Plus (Hosting Only)
5GB Web Space
25GB Bandwidth
3 ٖFTP Account
30 Email Account
10 MySQL Database
30 Subdomain
3 Addon Domains
3 Parked Domains
Price: $12.73/year
Order Link: https://www.pakcloudhost.com/clientarea/cart.php?a=add&pid=18

Package: Medium (Hosting Only)
10GB Web Space
50GB Bandwidth
10 ٖFTP Accounts
50 Email Accounts
30 MySQL Databases
50 Subdomains
10 Addon Domains
10 Parked Domains
Price: $17.09/year
Order Link: https://www.pakcloudhost.com/clientarea/cart.php?a=add&pid=19

@kasodk said:
Since you have the same phone numbers for support as https://www.resellerspanel.com/, you are a reseller. It's not your services.

The services I have offered here are not related to resellerspanel. As for the phone numbers for support, if you focus on footer, I have also added mine own number as support.

Actually I was busy and could not check WHMCS renewal invoice email. That's why my WHMCS license expired.

Whatever was true, I told.

@kasodk said:
So you think we are so stupid that we believe this.

I wants to let you know that everybody is more respectful for me. I have no any thinkings like you said.

kasodk · February 2

@kasodk said:
Can I get an IP address for the server with CloudLinux, cPanel, Litespeed, etc. so I can verify the licenses before I buy one of your hosting offers?

@pakhost said:

@kasodk said:
So you think we are so stupid that we believe this.

I wants to let you know that everybody is more respectful for me. I have no any thinkings like you said.

You can easily prove that with the IP address of your server, so we can verify your licenses for CloudLinux, cPanel, etc.

Waqass · February 3

His intentions seems to be good. Bro if you need any help just let me know. As far as the criticism here is concerned, take it as positive and try to improve your knowledge/services. Just do legit business and you will prosper.

pakhost · February 3

@kasodk said:

You can easily prove that with the IP address of your server, so we can verify your licenses for CloudLinux, cPanel, etc.

My IP which I've assigned on this server is 81.171.22.130

@Waqass said:
His intentions seems to be good. Bro if you need any help just let me know. As far as the criticism here is concerned, take it as positive and try to improve your knowledge/services. Just do legit business and you will prosper.

Thanks for your kind wishes. You encouragement is building my courage.

yoursunny · February 3

@pakhost said:

@kasodk said:

You can easily prove that with the IP address of your server, so we can verify your licenses for CloudLinux, cPanel, etc.

My IP which I've assigned on this server is 81.171.22.130

Oops.

https://verify.cpanel.net/app/verify?ip=81.171.22.130
Package: 15-DAY-TEST
Status: expired on 2020-10-14 12:45:01

kasodk · February 3

@yoursunny said:

@pakhost said:

@kasodk said:

You can easily prove that with the IP address of your server, so we can verify your licenses for CloudLinux, cPanel, etc.

My IP which I've assigned on this server is 81.171.22.130

Oops.

https://verify.cpanel.net/app/verify?ip=81.171.22.130
Package: 15-DAY-TEST
Status: expired on 2020-10-14 12:45:01

And no Imunify360 license.

https://cln.cloudlinux.com/console/check-license?ip=81.171.22.130

And expired Jetbackup trial license.

https://billing.jetapps.com/verify.php?ip=81.171.22.130

How can this guy have a provider tag?

hzr · February 3

hi @pakhost, can you please provide any proof you have valid nontrial licences for any of the services you offer

from before your offer was posted?

LeonDynamic · February 3

Softaculous licence expired as well. Not looking good @pakhost

https://www.softaculous.com/softaculous/verify?softip=81.171.22.130&verify_license=

yoursunny · February 4

@hzr said:
hi @pakhost, can you please provide any proof you have valid nontrial licences for any of the services you offer

from before your offer was posted?

I'm sure he has a license for Python:
https://docs.python.org/3/license.html#psf-license

kasodk · February 5

I just found out that he also is selling his services with pirated software on 99web.host and that he has been banned before on LET.

https://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1835900
https://www.lowendtalk.com/profile/itfze

james50a · February 5

nice to see basic due diligence is being done on providers now before they get in and its not just community members calling out their shit constantly....

fbmy · February 5

I like people doing more detailed checks about service providers.
but why do court only on this provider? There is other provider here that use expired trial license which are still selling well here.
who? find out by yourself!

Edit:
After months of this provder using a trial license expired. seems to have been updated from my last check in january

thedp · February 5

@fbmy said:
I like people doing more detailed checks about service providers.
but why do court only on this provider? There is other provider here that use expired trial license which are still selling well here.
who? find out by yourself!

Do the community a favor and call them out.

They'll take it from there.

seriesn · February 5

@fbmy said:
I like people doing more detailed checks about service providers.
but why do court only on this provider? There is other provider here that use expired trial license which are still selling well here.
who? find out by yourself!

O.o who?

fbmy · February 5

@thedp said:
Do the community a favor and call them out.

They'll take it from there.

@seriesn said:
O.o who?

After months of this provider using a trial license expired. today I checked again, it seems that it has been updated from my last check in January

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