PSA: Hostdoc back as "port443.uk" Possible scam alert!

its420somewhere

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
USE STANDARD WARNING SIGNAL

PSA: SCAM OPERATION ALERT

Hostdoc is back. Scammed many people and some providers without giving refounds before he deadpooled.

He has spammed promos etc to email accounts registered previously with hostdoc.

Likely a hit and run scam operation. Proceed with extreme caution. Deadpool imminent.

End of advisory.

thedp

Well, it could be him or it could also be anyone else due to the data leak they suffered from the tawk.to module.

angstrom

The domain port443.uk was registered on 24-Nov-2020

mrTom

No contact info on the contact page... always a good sign....

lovelyserver

Port443 is another AlphaRacks or HostDoc ... Pfff...

t0ny0

@its420somewhere said:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
USE STANDARD WARNING SIGNAL

PSA: SCAM OPERATION ALERT

Hostdoc is back. Scammed many people and some providers without giving refounds before he deadpooled.

He has spammed promos etc to email accounts registered previously with hostdoc.

Likely a hit and run scam operation. Proceed with extreme caution. Deadpool imminent.

End of advisory.

This nickname reminds me of something something hartigan from down under :-)
I'm right, aren't I?

Ahfaiahkid

@thedp said:
Well, it could be him or it could also be anyone else due to the data leak they suffered from the tawk.to module.

To be fair the tawk.to module leak is just cached pages, if port443 is emailing all ex hostdoc customers then it is 99% chance its hostdoc making a comeback or someone he sold the mail contacts to.

thedp

@Ahfaiahkid said:

@thedp said:
Well, it could be him or it could also be anyone else due to the data leak they suffered from the tawk.to module.

To be fair the tawk.to module leak is just cached pages, if port443 is emailing all ex hostdoc customers then it is 99% chance its hostdoc making a comeback or someone he sold the mail contacts to.

Yeah, but we don’t know for sure if “all ex hostdoc customers” did receive that mail because I certainly didn’t, or maybe not yet at least 😂

swat4

@thedp said:

Yeah, but we don’t know for sure if “all ex hostdoc customers” did receive that mail because I certainly didn’t, or maybe not yet at least 😂

Spam box checked?

thedp

@swat4 said:

@thedp said:

Yeah, but we don’t know for sure if “all ex hostdoc customers” did receive that mail because I certainly didn’t, or maybe not yet at least 😂

Spam box checked?

Yes 😀 I checked when this was first raised on the OGF a few days ago.

Intelpentium0

I got email from them. Was wondering how they got my mail id..

swat4

@thedp said:

Yes 😀 I checked when this was first raised on the OGF a few days ago.

Honestly I am relatively new so all the above names look Greek to me. But based on what you guys said, they seemed to be a group of scammers?

seriesn

Nope it’s him. Some detective works were done afaik to tie him back. Feel free to put on your LEHolmes hat.

thedp

@seriesn said:
Nope it’s him. Some detective works were done afaik to tie him back. Feel free to put on your LEHolmes hat.

If that’s the case, then he’s got a welcoming party right here 😂

jar

MikePT

@thedp said:
Well, it could be him or it could also be anyone else due to the data leak they suffered from the tawk.to module.

Do you believe that? I don't, at all. Haha!

MikePT

@Ahfaiahkid said:

@thedp said:
Well, it could be him or it could also be anyone else due to the data leak they suffered from the tawk.to module.

To be fair the tawk.to module leak is just cached pages, if port443 is emailing all ex hostdoc customers then it is 99% chance its hostdoc making a comeback or someone he sold the mail contacts to.

But it's just loading a script... Non cached script...

bdl

Was wondering why I was getting those BS emails

jpeng

hostdoc owed me xxUSD and they ran away.

Ahfaiahkid

@MikePT said:

@Ahfaiahkid said:

@thedp said:
Well, it could be him or it could also be anyone else due to the data leak they suffered from the tawk.to module.

To be fair the tawk.to module leak is just cached pages, if port443 is emailing all ex hostdoc customers then it is 99% chance its hostdoc making a comeback or someone he sold the mail contacts to.

But it's just loading a script... Non cached script...

I guess its just an excuse for him to deadpool.

leang97

Yup, its them, the IP address they using still have hostdoc registered as organization.

Neoon

Port 443 is already in use.

thedp

Looks like some other forum/communities are already sharing their offers.

LightBlade

JasonM

the (Host) Doctor wants to 'cum' back!

its420somewhere

He's just registered here too @P443John

hotlineservers

@its420somewhere said:
He's just registered here too @P443John

Seems that it is him. Looking glass ip comes back to Hostdoc.

P443John

Hi. Happy new year. I am John. The founder of a new hosting organisation known as Port443 Cloud Hosting. A member of this forum known as raindog has informed me about this thread. There is confusion about Port443 which has led to speculation I hope I can clear up.
I was informed of the existence of Hostdoc from my live chat. Somebody that named them self FAT for the conversation.
He insisted I was somebody I had not heard of and part of a group I had not heard of.
It seems the confusion is because of the name he was referring to.

Some Background

I work as part of a small team of devOps.
One of these members is someone we refer to as Junior. A fabulous team member who late 2019 began offering team members managed cloud services.
The majority of us utilize AWS services for our personal test environment making his offer not bad because it is highly available and replicated onto 2 extra servers.
He built the infrastructure through OVH and introduced many of our team members to OVH services.
Around July, my girl and I broke up and I found this tough coupled with Corona and all the shit that came with it.

Our team still has daily meetings on zoom and Junior continues managing many of our test environments. This intrigued me so I asked him about the in and outs of what he did because I had found myself with a lot of free time, some what depressed with not much to do.
He offered to help me start how he had started with a little hosting organisation to polish out a few skills.
He helped with the purchase of my servers and domain and offered some tips and advise on how to run and operate.

Going back to my conversation with FAT. I had never paid attention to the company name Junior referred to during conversations so it don’t ring bells when it was mentioned.
I was very confused. This conversation had names I don't recognise. They implied I was this person or represented a different organisation.
The next day, I called Junior and let him know about this bizarre conversation. I say bro, I am getting strange live chat requests from people calling them self FAT.
He recognised the name and gave me a little background into his hosting company and the reasons he shut down which I won’t go into detail about.

I have seen the word “scam” thrown around. From his explanation, I don't see how a scam has taken place. If one has, I don’t see how I am involved in it because I have services I use from him.
If you feel you have issues with Junior, I have contact with him and can pass a message onto him (can’t guarantee a response but I will try), but he has let me know that many other users also have direct contact details for him and can/could contact him if they want.

Where I am now and some answers

This is my organisation so I will now talk about me and my hosting organisation.
I am John Osengi. A 26 year old devOp from London.
I have set up a hosting company with some help and have followed advise offered.
This is a hobby for now because I have extra time and to keep my mind from going crazy.
Before launch, Junior offered if I grew the organisation but lost motivation to run it, he may be interested in taking it off my hands. It could be a bigger monster than I think he advised. I had no idea what he was on about but now I think I see.
He set up my organisation with OVH, helped me grow my mailing list and set up promotional campaigns.
Junior attached my organisation to the IP blocks allocated to my servers but something went wrong and some still point back to him.

I cannot directly offer a solution to anyone for grievances you have, but, I can be a sympathetic ear and pass requests to him to see if he can provide a solution.

As part of advise offered from Junior, forums are a great place to grow my organisation but they are also a breeding ground for toxic behaviour and foul competition.
I don’t want to step on toes or have reasons to call out people I don’t know or have any interest in.
I ain't a active member here. I don't intend to be. I will answer questions if anybody has some and happy to offer trial runs of my service if requested.
The service itself is not that exciting and quite basic. I offer dedicated resource plans which I understand this community does not consume for more than certain price. I can’t offer some of the deals many here can. I can’t compete with them on this platform. Any offers I have will be offers from marketing mail, my organisations social media and other accepted forms of promotion I think is good to promote the organisation and service I offer.
I sell dedicated resources and prompt customer service. I charge appropriately for what I sell. I deliver what I sell promptly and efficiently. It ain’t low end and I get that.

Port443 Cloud Hosting is in no way related to Hostdoc the same way a OVH reseller provider on this site ain’t in any way related to OVH other than being a customer that use the service.

If you have received unwanted emails from me, please unsubscribe, you will not receive further marketing emails from my organisation.

SirFoxy

@P443John said:
Hi. Happy new year. I am John. The founder of a new hosting organisation known as Port443 Cloud Hosting. A member of this forum known as raindog has informed me about this thread. There is confusion about Port443 which has led to speculation I hope I can clear up.
I was informed of the existence of Hostdoc from my live chat. Somebody that named them self FAT for the conversation.
He insisted I was somebody I had not heard of and part of a group I had not heard of.
It seems the confusion is because of the name he was referring to.

Some Background

I work as part of a small team of devOps.
One of these members is someone we refer to as Junior. A fabulous team member who late 2019 began offering team members managed cloud services.
The majority of us utilize AWS services for our personal test environment making his offer not bad because it is highly available and replicated onto 2 extra servers.
He built the infrastructure through OVH and introduced many of our team members to OVH services.
Around July, my girl and I broke up and I found this tough coupled with Corona and all the shit that came with it.

Our team still has daily meetings on zoom and Junior continues managing many of our test environments. This intrigued me so I asked him about the in and outs of what he did because I had found myself with a lot of free time, some what depressed with not much to do.
He offered to help me start how he had started with a little hosting organisation to polish out a few skills.
He helped with the purchase of my servers and domain and offered some tips and advise on how to run and operate.

Going back to my conversation with FAT. I had never paid attention to the company name Junior referred to during conversations so it don’t ring bells when it was mentioned.
I was very confused. This conversation had names I don't recognise. They implied I was this person or represented a different organisation.
The next day, I called Junior and let him know about this bizarre conversation. I say bro, I am getting strange live chat requests from people calling them self FAT.
He recognised the name and gave me a little background into his hosting company and the reasons he shut down which I won’t go into detail about.

I have seen the word “scam” thrown around. From his explanation, I don't see how a scam has taken place. If one has, I don’t see how I am involved in it because I have services I use from him.
If you feel you have issues with Junior, I have contact with him and can pass a message onto him (can’t guarantee a response but I will try), but he has let me know that many other users also have direct contact details for him and can/could contact him if they want.

Where I am now and some answers

This is my organisation so I will now talk about me and my hosting organisation.
I am John Osengi. A 26 year old devOp from London.
I have set up a hosting company with some help and have followed advise offered.
This is a hobby for now because I have extra time and to keep my mind from going crazy.
Before launch, Junior offered if I grew the organisation but lost motivation to run it, he may be interested in taking it off my hands. It could be a bigger monster than I think he advised. I had no idea what he was on about but now I think I see.
He set up my organisation with OVH, helped me grow my mailing list and set up promotional campaigns.
Junior attached my organisation to the IP blocks allocated to my servers but something went wrong and some still point back to him.

I cannot directly offer a solution to anyone for grievances you have, but, I can be a sympathetic ear and pass requests to him to see if he can provide a solution.

As part of advise offered from Junior, forums are a great place to grow my organisation but they are also a breeding ground for toxic behaviour and foul competition.
I don’t want to step on toes or have reasons to call out people I don’t know or have any interest in.
I ain't a active member here. I don't intend to be. I will answer questions if anybody has some and happy to offer trial runs of my service if requested.
The service itself is not that exciting and quite basic. I offer dedicated resource plans which I understand this community does not consume for more than certain price. I can’t offer some of the deals many here can. I can’t compete with them on this platform. Any offers I have will be offers from marketing mail, my organisations social media and other accepted forms of promotion I think is good to promote the organisation and service I offer.
I sell dedicated resources and prompt customer service. I charge appropriately for what I sell. I deliver what I sell promptly and efficiently. It ain’t low end and I get that.

Port443 Cloud Hosting is in no way related to Hostdoc the same way a OVH reseller provider on this site ain’t in any way related to OVH other than being a customer that use the service.

If you have received unwanted emails from me, please unsubscribe, you will not receive further marketing emails from my organisation.

Lmao this screams shady especially the fact you're legit using emails from his list, his tawk module, and his ip block. Seriously?

corbpie

FAT32

Go on

JabJab

@P443John said: If you have received unwanted emails from me, please unsubscribe, you will not receive further marketing emails from my organisation.

I've decided to only read last line and it was fucking lmao already.
I guess I should read rest too - must be funny stuff.

Ganonk

@FAT32 said:

Go on

can you share pop corn with us?

notarobo

@P443John said:
Hi. Happy new year. I am John. The founder of a new hosting organisation known as Port443 Cloud Hosting. A member of this forum known as raindog has informed me about this thread. There is confusion about Port443 which has led to speculation I hope I can clear up.
I was informed of the existence of Hostdoc from my live chat. Somebody that named them self FAT for the conversation.
He insisted I was somebody I had not heard of and part of a group I had not heard of.
It seems the confusion is because of the name he was referring to.

Some Background

I work as part of a small team of devOps.
One of these members is someone we refer to as Junior. A fabulous team member who late 2019 began offering team members managed cloud services.
The majority of us utilize AWS services for our personal test environment making his offer not bad because it is highly available and replicated onto 2 extra servers.
He built the infrastructure through OVH and introduced many of our team members to OVH services.
Around July, my girl and I broke up and I found this tough coupled with Corona and all the shit that came with it.

Our team still has daily meetings on zoom and Junior continues managing many of our test environments. This intrigued me so I asked him about the in and outs of what he did because I had found myself with a lot of free time, some what depressed with not much to do.
He offered to help me start how he had started with a little hosting organisation to polish out a few skills.
He helped with the purchase of my servers and domain and offered some tips and advise on how to run and operate.

Going back to my conversation with FAT. I had never paid attention to the company name Junior referred to during conversations so it don’t ring bells when it was mentioned.
I was very confused. This conversation had names I don't recognise. They implied I was this person or represented a different organisation.
The next day, I called Junior and let him know about this bizarre conversation. I say bro, I am getting strange live chat requests from people calling them self FAT.
He recognised the name and gave me a little background into his hosting company and the reasons he shut down which I won’t go into detail about.

I have seen the word “scam” thrown around. From his explanation, I don't see how a scam has taken place. If one has, I don’t see how I am involved in it because I have services I use from him.
If you feel you have issues with Junior, I have contact with him and can pass a message onto him (can’t guarantee a response but I will try), but he has let me know that many other users also have direct contact details for him and can/could contact him if they want.

Where I am now and some answers

This is my organisation so I will now talk about me and my hosting organisation.
I am John Osengi. A 26 year old devOp from London.
I have set up a hosting company with some help and have followed advise offered.
This is a hobby for now because I have extra time and to keep my mind from going crazy.
Before launch, Junior offered if I grew the organisation but lost motivation to run it, he may be interested in taking it off my hands. It could be a bigger monster than I think he advised. I had no idea what he was on about but now I think I see.
He set up my organisation with OVH, helped me grow my mailing list and set up promotional campaigns.
Junior attached my organisation to the IP blocks allocated to my servers but something went wrong and some still point back to him.

I cannot directly offer a solution to anyone for grievances you have, but, I can be a sympathetic ear and pass requests to him to see if he can provide a solution.

As part of advise offered from Junior, forums are a great place to grow my organisation but they are also a breeding ground for toxic behaviour and foul competition.
I don’t want to step on toes or have reasons to call out people I don’t know or have any interest in.
I ain't a active member here. I don't intend to be. I will answer questions if anybody has some and happy to offer trial runs of my service if requested.
The service itself is not that exciting and quite basic. I offer dedicated resource plans which I understand this community does not consume for more than certain price. I can’t offer some of the deals many here can. I can’t compete with them on this platform. Any offers I have will be offers from marketing mail, my organisations social media and other accepted forms of promotion I think is good to promote the organisation and service I offer.
I sell dedicated resources and prompt customer service. I charge appropriately for what I sell. I deliver what I sell promptly and efficiently. It ain’t low end and I get that.

Port443 Cloud Hosting is in no way related to Hostdoc the same way a OVH reseller provider on this site ain’t in any way related to OVH other than being a customer that use the service.

If you have received unwanted emails from me, please unsubscribe, you will not receive further marketing emails from my organisation.

that what every scam scum say

isunbejo

Tawk legend

Moofie

@P443John said:
Hi. Happy new year. I am John. The founder of a new hosting organisation known as Port443 Cloud Hosting. A member of this forum known as raindog has informed me about this thread. There is confusion about Port443 which has led to speculation I hope I can clear up.
I was informed of the existence of Hostdoc from my live chat. Somebody that named them self FAT for the conversation.
He insisted I was somebody I had not heard of and part of a group I had not heard of.
It seems the confusion is because of the name he was referring to.

Some Background

I work as part of a small team of devOps.
One of these members is someone we refer to as Junior. A fabulous team member who late 2019 began offering team members managed cloud services.
The majority of us utilize AWS services for our personal test environment making his offer not bad because it is highly available and replicated onto 2 extra servers.
He built the infrastructure through OVH and introduced many of our team members to OVH services.
Around July, my girl and I broke up and I found this tough coupled with Corona and all the shit that came with it.

Our team still has daily meetings on zoom and Junior continues managing many of our test environments. This intrigued me so I asked him about the in and outs of what he did because I had found myself with a lot of free time, some what depressed with not much to do.
He offered to help me start how he had started with a little hosting organisation to polish out a few skills.
He helped with the purchase of my servers and domain and offered some tips and advise on how to run and operate.

Going back to my conversation with FAT. I had never paid attention to the company name Junior referred to during conversations so it don’t ring bells when it was mentioned.
I was very confused. This conversation had names I don't recognise. They implied I was this person or represented a different organisation.
The next day, I called Junior and let him know about this bizarre conversation. I say bro, I am getting strange live chat requests from people calling them self FAT.
He recognised the name and gave me a little background into his hosting company and the reasons he shut down which I won’t go into detail about.

I have seen the word “scam” thrown around. From his explanation, I don't see how a scam has taken place. If one has, I don’t see how I am involved in it because I have services I use from him.
If you feel you have issues with Junior, I have contact with him and can pass a message onto him (can’t guarantee a response but I will try), but he has let me know that many other users also have direct contact details for him and can/could contact him if they want.

Where I am now and some answers

This is my organisation so I will now talk about me and my hosting organisation.
I am John Osengi. A 26 year old devOp from London.
I have set up a hosting company with some help and have followed advise offered.
This is a hobby for now because I have extra time and to keep my mind from going crazy.
Before launch, Junior offered if I grew the organisation but lost motivation to run it, he may be interested in taking it off my hands. It could be a bigger monster than I think he advised. I had no idea what he was on about but now I think I see.
He set up my organisation with OVH, helped me grow my mailing list and set up promotional campaigns.
Junior attached my organisation to the IP blocks allocated to my servers but something went wrong and some still point back to him.

I cannot directly offer a solution to anyone for grievances you have, but, I can be a sympathetic ear and pass requests to him to see if he can provide a solution.

As part of advise offered from Junior, forums are a great place to grow my organisation but they are also a breeding ground for toxic behaviour and foul competition.
I don’t want to step on toes or have reasons to call out people I don’t know or have any interest in.
I ain't a active member here. I don't intend to be. I will answer questions if anybody has some and happy to offer trial runs of my service if requested.
The service itself is not that exciting and quite basic. I offer dedicated resource plans which I understand this community does not consume for more than certain price. I can’t offer some of the deals many here can. I can’t compete with them on this platform. Any offers I have will be offers from marketing mail, my organisations social media and other accepted forms of promotion I think is good to promote the organisation and service I offer.
I sell dedicated resources and prompt customer service. I charge appropriately for what I sell. I deliver what I sell promptly and efficiently. It ain’t low end and I get that.

Port443 Cloud Hosting is in no way related to Hostdoc the same way a OVH reseller provider on this site ain’t in any way related to OVH other than being a customer that use the service.

If you have received unwanted emails from me, please unsubscribe, you will not receive further marketing emails from my organisation.

Do you have any explanation as to how we ended up on your email list, though?

thedp

If you're really into software engineering/development then you should know that it's always DevOps and never devOps or devOp.

If this is all Junior, he should be here instead.

Your torch isn't bright enough to shed sufficient light on this topic.

Unless, you're Junior.

JabJab

TL;DR: I have no idea what I am doing, "Junior" is doing everything, but this is my 'organisation'. Also: this is hard (What is hard if "Junior" does everything? btw. Domain registered like a month ago) and he will probably take over.

Amazing sad story, especially that girl you broke up with - please mention her on your website, she seems to be very important part of port443.uk 'legacy'!

brueggus

TimboJones

People love hearing they're buying services from a guy who has no experience and just trying it out for a hobby.

P443John

@SirFoxy said:

Lmao this screams shady especially the fact you're legit using emails from his list, his tawk module, and his ip block. Seriously?

This. Speculation.
Bro, I am an authorised user on his OVH account.
I do not use his tawk.to module. No.
The email list was not known to me. I will take blame for that because it is my organisation.

@Moofie said:

Do you have any explanation as to how we ended up on your email list, though?

Yes.
It was added during our marketing campaign. I will take blame for this as I should have been aware.

@thedp said:

If you're really into software engineering/development then you should know that it's always DevOps and never devOps or devOp.

If this is all Junior, he should be here instead.

Your torch isn't bright enough to shed sufficient light on this topic.

Unless, you're Junior.

100% with you there but i have asked him to be here too. I have only just seen the email about the thread today and took immediate action.

@JabJab said:
TL;DR: I have no idea what I am doing, "Junior" is doing everything, but this is my 'organisation'. Also: this is hard (What is hard if "Junior" does everything? btw. Domain registered like a month ago) and he will probably take over.

Amazing sad story, especially that girl you broke up with - please mention her on your website, she seems to be very important part of port443.uk 'legacy'!

I get it, it’s a new year and you are excited about some excitement.
Bro, I am just doing the right thing. Don’t crucify me. I want to help, really.
But treating me like shit for something I am still learning about does not help anything.

chocolateshirt

@P443John said:

@Moofie said:

Do you have any explanation as to how we ended up on your email list, though?

Yes.
It was added during our marketing campaign. I will take blame for this as I should have been aware.

Added from where? You did not explain this, unless you are the "junior".

notarobo

@P443John said:
But treating me like shit for something I am still learning about does not help anything.

bro

bro

bro

not treat like shit

is treat as shit

bro

u

r

shit

deank

The end is nigh.

P443John

@chocolateshirt said:

@P443John said:

@Moofie said:

Do you have any explanation as to how we ended up on your email list, though?

Yes.
It was added during our marketing campaign. I will take blame for this as I should have been aware.

Added from where? You did not explain this, unless you are the "junior".

No. Junior added it during the campaign. I did not know this and thought they were generic until he let me know the other day that he added half of his own list to the campaign.
It made up 1/4 of the list.

@notarobo said:

@P443John said:
But treating me like shit for something I am still learning about does not help anything.

bro

bro

bro

not treat like shit

is treat as shit

bro

u

r

shit

BROOO??

hotlineservers

@P443John said:

@chocolateshirt said:

@P443John said:

@Moofie said:

Do you have any explanation as to how we ended up on your email list, though?

Yes.
It was added during our marketing campaign. I will take blame for this as I should have been aware.

Added from where? You did not explain this, unless you are the "junior".

No. Junior added it during the campaign. I did not know this and thought they were generic until he let me know the other day that he added half of his own list to the campaign.
It made up 1/4 of the list.

@notarobo said:

@P443John said:
But treating me like shit for something I am still learning about does not help anything.

bro

bro

bro

not treat like shit

is treat as shit

bro

u

r

shit

BROOO??

B-S meter running high here. Just admit your hostdoc. Its already clear who you are.

FAT32

@P443John Let's discuss a few points in a slightly more logical way.

1. You mentioned Junior helped you to set up a hosting company, that means your company should be registered? Under what name is it?
2. @raindog308 Can you confirm that you informed them about this thread?
3. If you are a DevOps doing managed services, how could you not know under which name your IPs / services / domains are registered in, and "accidentally" still point back to HostDoc?
4. How could you not know the name HostDoc when your services are registered under HostDoc?
5. Your name sounds suspicious, I found 0 results in Google regarding John Osengi, any public profile of yours that you can share with us?

jmgcaguicla

@FAT32 said:
@P443John Let's discuss a few points in a slightly more logical way.

1. You mentioned Junior helped you to set up a hosting company, that means your company should be registered? Under what name is it?
2. @raindog308 Can you confirm that you informed them about this thread?
3. If you are a DevOps doing managed services, how could you not know under which name your IPs / services / domains are registered in, and "accidentally" still point back to HostDoc?
4. How could you not know the name HostDoc when your services are registered under HostDoc?
5. Your name sounds suspicious, I found 0 results in Google regarding John Osengi, any public profile of yours that you can share with us?

Here it comes, time to dig a deeper hole

SirFoxy

@P443John said:

@chocolateshirt said:

@P443John said:

@Moofie said:

Do you have any explanation as to how we ended up on your email list, though?

Yes.
It was added during our marketing campaign. I will take blame for this as I should have been aware.

Added from where? You did not explain this, unless you are the "junior".

No. Junior added it during the campaign. I did not know this and thought they were generic until he let me know the other day that he added half of his own list to the campaign.
It made up 1/4 of the list.

@notarobo said:

@P443John said:
But treating me like shit for something I am still learning about does not help anything.

bro

bro

bro

not treat like shit

is treat as shit

bro

u

r

shit

BROOO??

You can't just add people to your list it has to be opt in, first of all, even in the US.

isunbejo

John Osengi = John Doe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Doe

deank

Once a scammer, forever scammer.

I've yet to see an exception in decades.