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ApisCP 18 year anniversary sale! And updates!

nemnem Member, Provider
edited December 2020 in Offers

ApisCP turns 18 on December 26th, which is a great milestone as the codebase can now buy fireworks, purchase spray paint, and get tattoos without parental consent.

To kick the celebration off and help everyone move past 2020, I'm bringing back the popular 50% off discount (coupon code: ANNIVERSARY) valid on all lifetime licenses. This discount is valid until January 1 or reseller support officially launches, whichever happens later.

Pro licenses (no domain limit) are $249, Startup (30 domain limit) is $79, and Mini (10 domain limit) is $49. These are all one-time costs. Licenses may be revoked and reissued as needed via the licensing portal, my.apiscp.com.


On to interesting developments. As we know by now CentOS is flipping upstream to RHEL instead of downstream. I've shared my thoughts on this and logged a few days of build hours on E2E tests. Unless something catastrophic happens by Summer, ApisCP will continue to focus on the Red Hat/CentOS ecosystem to produce the maximum integration afforded by this distro. Having faster release cycles for crucial software like systemd allows me to build more cohesive platforms with less overhead. It's a win.

Technology helps accomplish tasks with better precision. Reseller system, which is next to launch now that the panel proxy is done, uses project quotas and cgroup subtrees to allow overselling with online resource enforcement. Resellers can allocate beyond their package allowances to sites, but the sum of all resources consumed can never exceed the total on the reseller; unlike prevailing reseller systems this is enforced realtime by the OS.

Given the ambitious approach to reseller support, ApisCP will only support resellers on CentOS 8 or Stream with xfs filesystems. ext4 supports project quotas on 4.x kernels; however, I've not explored it to the same extent as xfs project/group/user quotas.

Lastly, panel proxy as touched on earlier allows one to run multiple ApisCP nodes from a single login portal. It's been part of the magic behind Hostineer for the last 5 years and now it's cleaned up for a wider audience. Several great minds in the ApisCP Discord have helped move this along. It's as simple as a couple configuration settings on each node. Panel proxy is broken down into 3 separate components to enhance security. Each component can be run off a free DNS-only license issued via my.apiscp.com. After reseller is implemented, I'll expand upon this to allow admin to jump locations from a single login.

@SGraf wait no more. It's here! :D

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  • RadiRadi Member, Provider

    I used to have a free test license but I didn't have the chance to install it back then, so I lost the license.

    It looks neat now. Keep it up and it might become the next cPanel.

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  • SGrafSGraf Member, Provider

    @Radi said:
    ...become the next cPanel.

    not sure if this a compliment or an insult...

    @nem said:
    @SGraf wait no more. It's here! :D

    sweet :smiley:

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  • RadiRadi Member, Provider

    @SGraf said:

    @Radi said:
    ...become the next cPanel.

    not sure if this a compliment or an insult...

    It's a compliment.. I meant "as widely used as cPanel.. as to be honest it still seems used by most big names in our industry..."

    4 GB RAM/90 GB SSD/4 TB Traffic/KVM/1 IPv4 for $7/mo only here with coupon code "LET-It-GO".

  • @Radi said:
    I used to have a free test license but I didn't have the chance to install it back then, so I lost the license.

    It looks neat now. Keep it up and it might become the next cPanel.

    Haha.. same here.. :(

  • FreeBSD please.

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  • nemnem Member, Provider

    @Radi said:

    ...become the next cPanel.

    not sure if this a compliment or an insult...

    WebPros is holding onto some serious debt, $540 million in fact as a first-lien loan. I can't say there's many upsides to following in their footsteps. :p

    @default said:
    FreeBSD please.

    Do one thing and do it very well. Doing so would balloon development costs and stall development, neither of which existing users would be elated on hearing. A good platform shouldn't require much - if any - bushwhacking in the terminal. ApisCP isn't free of terminal usage yet, but it's moving positively toward that goal.

  • @seriesn said:
    Woot. Good stuff as always my man!!

    ApisCP reseller coming soon ?

    EVERYTHING IS MUCH BETTER THAN IT WAS 1 YEAR AGO

  • nemnem Member, Provider

    @webclouddev said:
    ApisCP reseller coming soon ?

    That's the next module coming online. Working around the clock to get it ready ASAP. First half will be basic reseller support with project quotas. Second half will be resource allocation with cgroup subtrees.

    Make sure your server is provisioned as CentOS 8 with xfs to be eligible for reseller support.

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  • @nem said:

    @webclouddev said:
    ApisCP reseller coming soon ?

    That's the next module coming online. Working around the clock to get it ready ASAP. First half will be basic reseller support with project quotas. Second half will be resource allocation with cgroup subtrees.

    Make sure your server is provisioned as CentOS 8 with xfs to be eligible for reseller support.

    that sounds amazing

    EVERYTHING IS MUCH BETTER THAN IT WAS 1 YEAR AGO

  • @nem said:
    ApisCP turns 18 on December 26th, which is a great milestone as the codebase can now buy fireworks, purchase spray paint, and get tattoos without parental consent.

    To kick the celebration off and help everyone move past 2020, I'm bringing back the popular 50% off discount (coupon code: ANNIVERSARY) valid on all lifetime licenses. This discount is valid until January 1 or reseller support officially launches, whichever happens later.

    Pro licenses (no domain limit) are $249, Startup (30 domain limit) is $79, and Mini (10 domain limit) is $49. These are all one-time costs. Licenses may be revoked and reissued as needed via the licensing portal, my.apiscp.com.


    On to interesting developments. As we know by now CentOS is flipping upstream to RHEL instead of downstream. I've shared my thoughts on this and logged a few days of build hours on E2E tests. Unless something catastrophic happens by Summer, ApisCP will continue to focus on the Red Hat/CentOS ecosystem to produce the maximum integration afforded by this distro. Having faster release cycles for crucial software like systemd allows me to build more cohesive platforms with less overhead. It's a win.

    Technology helps accomplish tasks with better precision. Reseller system, which is next to launch now that the panel proxy is done, uses project quotas and cgroup subtrees to allow overselling with online resource enforcement. Resellers can allocate beyond their package allowances to sites, but the sum of all resources consumed can never exceed the total on the reseller; unlike prevailing reseller systems this is enforced realtime by the OS.

    Given the ambitious approach to reseller support, ApisCP will only support resellers on CentOS 8 or Stream with xfs filesystems. ext4 supports project quotas on 4.x kernels; however, I've not explored it to the same extent as xfs project/group/user quotas.

    Lastly, panel proxy as touched on earlier allows one to run multiple ApisCP nodes from a single login portal. It's been part of the magic behind Hostineer for the last 5 years and now it's cleaned up for a wider audience. Several great minds in the ApisCP Discord have helped move this along. It's as simple as a couple configuration settings on each node. Panel proxy is broken down into 3 separate components to enhance security. Each component can be run off a free DNS-only license issued via my.apiscp.com. After reseller is implemented, I'll expand upon this to allow admin to jump locations from a single login.

    @SGraf wait no more. It's here! :D

    Seasons greetings! This is great news @nem

    I have a couple of free pro licenses. Would reseller support made available or we need to pay separately?

    Also, on a side note, is it possible to use this control panel for basic server admin Gui? I dont have a need to run any sites at the moment... just some storage backup and server admin like logs viewing or setting up crons etc.

    Also is there a possibility to add a web shell console for the main admin user to run commands on adhoc basis if needed?

  • webcraftwebcraft Member
    edited December 2020

    @plumberg said:

    I have a couple of free pro licenses. Would reseller support made available or we need to pay separately?

    On his discord he once said that no features are market separately, so I suppose yes it's included.

    Also, on a side note, is it possible to use this control panel for basic server admin Gui? I dont have a need to run any sites at the moment... just some storage backup and server admin like logs viewing or setting up crons etc.

    Also is there a possibility to add a web shell console for the main admin user to run commands on adhoc basis if needed?

    I can recommend using Project-Cockpit for this maybe. Apiscp is made for hosting sites so you'd have a lot of stuff installed on your box that you don't need at all. Though he might be cautious with configuration I think it's even more secure to not have it installed if not required.

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  • @webcraft said:

    @plumberg said:

    I have a couple of free pro licenses. Would reseller support made available or we need to pay separately?

    On his discord he once said that no features are market separately, so I suppose yes it's included.

    Awesome!

    Also, on a side note, is it possible to use this control panel for basic server admin Gui? I dont have a need to run any sites at the moment... just some storage backup and server admin like logs viewing or setting up crons etc.

    Also is there a possibility to add a web shell console for the main admin user to run commands on adhoc basis if needed?

    I can recommend using Project-Cockpit for this maybe. Apiscp is made for hosting sites so you'd have a lot of stuff installed on your box that you don't need at all. Though he might be cautious with configuration I think it's even more secure to not have it installed if not required.

    Ohh cockpit.. completely forgot about that... yes that's perfect!

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  • @nem said: ApisCP turns 18 on December 26th

    ApisCP is litterally older than me

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  • PandoGulfPandoGulf Member
    edited December 2020

    I purchased the mini lifetime license. I got it as an investment for the future, I think you will become the next "DA success story" as a CP. I also liked the fact that it's transferable ! that's always nice to have ... !

    BTW would the reseller module still work on it with 10 domains limit ?

  • Hello, I didn't know this panel but i'm looking for newpanel...i have site in prestashop and wordpress can be help?

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint Member
    edited December 2020

    Just remember, this not a low-end control panel: it requires significant/substantial resources. Otherwise, I do welcome having ApisCP as an option, even if it is complex in its' structure.

    [I'll hold off using in production until (VPS) RAM is much cheaper and SSD/NVMe falls to the price of HDD.]

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  • nemnem Member, Provider

    @webcraft said:
    On his discord he once said that no features are market separately, so I suppose yes it's included.

    Correct.

    Also is there a possibility to add a web shell console for the main admin user to run commands on adhoc basis if needed?

    Create a dummy account so it's shielded from the rest of the server. You can su site1 then run commands as that user or do it from the GUI. Sparingly run things from the administrative side, it's powerful.

    I can recommend using Project-Cockpit for this maybe. Apiscp is made for hosting sites so you'd have a lot of stuff installed on your box that you don't need at all. Though he might be cautious with configuration I think it's even more secure to not have it installed if not required.

    Yup it's interoperable, there is no conflict. That'll provide access to system logs.

    @PandoGulf said:
    I purchased the mini lifetime license. I got it as an investment for the future, I think you will become the next "DA success story" as a CP. I also liked the fact that it's transferable ! that's always since to have ... !

    BTW would the reseller module still work on it with 10 domains limit ?

    It'd be hamstrung, but could work within a thin margin. Reseller is a feature enabled by the admin.

    @AlwaysSkint said: Just remember, this not a low-end control panel: it requires significant/substantial resource

    RAM is cheap. Oversight and the fallout of a hacked server is not. Remember, not everyone is keen to build a house by venturing into the wilderness with a saw.

    @seriesn provides a variety of capable configurations with ApisCP that are less than buying a cheeseburger and fries once a week.

  • @AlwaysSkint said: Just remember, this not a low-end control panel: it requires significant/substantial resources. Otherwise, I do welcome having ApisCP as an option, even if it is complex in its' structure.

    Is 4GB RAM considered "substantial" resources? :joy:

    I'm not sure I would run cPanel or Plesk on any less.

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  • seriesnseriesn Member, Top Provider

    @nem said:

    @webcraft said:
    On his discord he once said that no features are market separately, so I suppose yes it's included.

    Correct.

    Also is there a possibility to add a web shell console for the main admin user to run commands on adhoc basis if needed?

    Create a dummy account so it's shielded from the rest of the server. You can su site1 then run commands as that user or do it from the GUI. Sparingly run things from the administrative side, it's powerful.

    I can recommend using Project-Cockpit for this maybe. Apiscp is made for hosting sites so you'd have a lot of stuff installed on your box that you don't need at all. Though he might be cautious with configuration I think it's even more secure to not have it installed if not required.

    Yup it's interoperable, there is no conflict. That'll provide access to system logs.

    @PandoGulf said:
    I purchased the mini lifetime license. I got it as an investment for the future, I think you will become the next "DA success story" as a CP. I also liked the fact that it's transferable ! that's always since to have ... !

    BTW would the reseller module still work on it with 10 domains limit ?

    It'd be hamstrung, but could work within a thin margin. Reseller is a feature enabled by the admin.

    @AlwaysSkint said: Just remember, this not a low-end control panel: it requires significant/substantial resource

    RAM is cheap. Oversight and the fallout of a hacked server is not. Remember, not everyone is keen to build a house by venturing into the wilderness with a saw.

    @seriesn provides a variety of capable configurations with ApisCP that are less than buying a cheeseburger and fries once a week.

    Cheaper than Burger King meal with in app discount.

  • seenuseenu Member
    edited December 2020

    can anyone tell me why it is great/different from others?

    i have visited website many and it seems impressive, also some different approach but i don't actually get how it helps me better than others say cyberpanel

    i went to buy now button 3-4times but had to stop because i am really not sure whether i need it or not.

    PS: after using cyberpanel for 1+ years, for new vps's i am just using openlitespeed with their control panel and vHost Templates which are serving my purpose.

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint Member
    edited December 2020

    @Unixfy said: Is 4GB RAM considered "substantial" resources?

    It is at the low-end of the market.
    On cPanel, 4GB RAM/40GB Storage is a luxury for the ecommerce package that I run normally. For a non-cPanel instance running Adobe (King of) bloatware Magento 2.3, 4GB is an absolute minimum and insufficient for Magento 2.4.
    Take into account ApisCP approx. 10GB storage, Magento ever expanding 6GB storage, plus RAM requirements and you are at Enterprise levels, not low-end.
    Y'all too used to Windoze mentality. >:)
    A control panel should be there to ease the burden of administration and that is all. Not become a so-called App in its' own right.

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  • @AlwaysSkint said:

    @Unixfy said: Is 4GB RAM considered "substantial" resources?

    It is at the low-end of the market.
    On cPanel, 4GB RAM/40GB Storage is a luxury for the ecommerce package that I run normally. For a non-cPanel instance running Adobe (King of) bloatware Magento 2.3, 4GB is an absolute minimum and insufficient for Magento 2.4.
    Take into account ApisCP approx. 10GB storage, Magento ever expanding 6GB storage, plus RAM requirements and you are at Enterprise levels, not low-end.
    Y'all too used to Windoze mentality. >:)
    A control panel should be there to ease the burden of administration and that is all. Not become a so-called App in its' own right.

    This is kind of true. We have evolved so much, but still type commands in terminal like in TOPS20 computing era. We should really create an open source management panel with easy scripts.

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  • fbmyfbmy Member
    edited December 2020

    @AlwaysSkint said:
    Just remember, this not a low-end control panel: it requires significant/substantial resources. Otherwise, I do welcome having ApisCP as an option, even if it is complex in its' structure.

    Hey man, I don't understand your "Low End" CP standards. however I am actually running ApisCP on 6 Bucks/year VPS and it is working smoothly. If you think this is still not up to the "low end" standard, maybe you are not ready to use a control panel like ApisCP.

  • @fbmy said: I am actually running ApisCP on 6 Bucks VPS

    Would be interested to know the specs. and provider.

    @fbmy said: ..maybe you are not ready to use a control panel like ApisCP.

    No maybes about it. ;) I'll hold off a bit longer and experiment (again), from time to time.

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  • fbmyfbmy Member
    edited December 2020

    @AlwaysSkint
    1gb ram
    1vCPU
    20 SSD
    Virmach

    try and join on their discord. you will understand why you need to have ApisCP immediately

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint Member
    edited December 2020

    @fbmy said: 1gb ram

    This utterly surprises me! :o
    Can you actually run anything productive on it?

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  • @AlwaysSkint said:
    This utterly surprises me!

    Yes I run it on that system with low memory mode

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  • Have modified my instance to single CPU, 1GB RAM (rather than dual, 2GB) and will leave running for a while.
    Never let it be said that I don't try. ;)

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  • Lifetime licenses are transferable right ?

    I read this somewhere in reddit...

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  • Is it focused on those who are in the web hosting business? I just installed it on my DigitalOcean server. I tried to install it in a $5 plan but it was too big for that so I had to install it in a $10 plan.

  • nemnem Member, Provider

    @MikeIn said:
    Novice question: cgroup

    So basically, one won't need Cloud Linux for basic per user restriction. Will every shared hosting A/C be running as separate user then?

    Correct. Resource accounting is done through cgroups, which are the same basis of resource accounting in CloudLinux. ApisCP uses a mixture of systemd namespaces/chroots/synthetic filesystems (BoxFS) for its filesystem isolation. All PHP-FPM pools run as a separate user from the account admin that's local to that account's filesystem. This is the basis of Fortification.

    @SuperCOOL said:
    Lifetime licenses are transferable right ?

    I read this somewhere in reddit...

    Yes, if you need to transfer it out of your account for now send a support email via my.apiscp.com.

    @GreenPeace said:
    Is it focused on those who are in the web hosting business? I just installed it on my DigitalOcean server. I tried to install it in a $5 plan but it was too big for that so I had to install it in a $10 plan.

    Built originally for a web hosting business but general purpose enough to work in a variety of environments where you want a platform that can manage itself. If you're spinning up an image from DO's Marketplace, that was built on a 2 GB machine. You can install on a 1 GB node in low-memory mode when has_low_memory=true.

    I recommend running panel proxy off a 1 GB machine as there's no compelling reason for a larger node.

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  • @nem said: ANNIVERSARY

    does the lifetime pro license include unlimited nodes?

  • @kalipus said:

    @nem said: ANNIVERSARY

    does the lifetime pro license include unlimited nodes?

    One installation on one server with unlimited clients setup.

  • verovero Member, Provider

    What about LiteSpeed support?

  • nemnem Member, Provider

    @vero said:
    What about LiteSpeed support?

    Covered previously here and benchmarked separately by another user on HT coming from OLS. There's no discernible difference when Apache is configured to behave like OLS or NGINX.

  • verovero Member, Provider
    edited December 2020

    @nem said:

    @vero said:
    What about LiteSpeed support?

    Covered previously here and benchmarked separately by another user on HT coming from OLS. There's no discernible difference when Apache is configured to behave like OLS or NGINX.

    So the answer is "no and is not planned" if I understood you correctly:) I like LS, it performs perhaps only slightly better most of the time, but it's like a drug and I'm addicted.

    Few more questions about differences between Pro and other licenses:

    1. Are updates free for Startup and Mini lifetime licenses?
    2. Are DNS - only servers available for cheaper plans?
    3. Are all types of licenses transferable or only Pro?

    Thanks.

  • nemnem Member, Provider

    @vero said:
    So the answer is "no and is not planned" if I understood you correctly:)

    Correct. There's simply nothing novel that LiteSpeed offers that justifies splitting development focus.

    Two more questions about differences between Pro and other licenses:

    1. Are updates free for Startup and Mini lifetime licenses?

    Yes.

    1. Are DNS - only servers available for cheaper plans?

    DNS-only licenses are free via my.apiscp.com. You can even login to a DNS-only node and manage all participating nodes in the DNS cluster.

    1. Are all types of licenses transferable or only Pro?

    All are.

  • verovero Member, Provider

    @nem said:

    All are.

    So they are all identical functionality wise, except support option and domain limit?

  • nemnem Member, Provider

    @vero said:

    So they are all identical functionality wise, except support option and domain limit?

    Correct. Otherwise in doing so you end up creating confusing product lines that either induce decision paralysis or diminish the overall value of the product in what becomes effectively a freemium product.

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  • BertieBertie Member
    edited December 2020

    "10 year OS support lifecycle"

    Was nice while it lasted I guess.

  • @AlwaysSkint said: A control panel should be there to ease the burden of administration and that is all. Not become a so-called App in its' own right.

    +1

    Even though I admire the hard work that has gone in making this panel, it is the only panel which thoroughly overwhelms the different individual software components it installs & manages. The philosophy is to automate everything and create a self-healing secure machine, but the sheer complexity and sophistication of it all must bring its own challenges in the longer run.

  • nemnem Member, Provider

    @Bertie said:
    "10 year OS support lifecycle"

    Was nice while it lasted I guess.

    I've shared my thoughts on this. Switching from downstream to upstream offers a few benefits once you get past the FUD.

    @dynamo said:
    but the sheer complexity and sophistication of it all must bring its own challenges in the longer run.

    That's the role of Ansible in this machine. It simplifies management and ensures platforms are built in a consistent, logical manner. Prior to rolling out Ansible ~3 years ago I'd manually configure new platforms by hand, which was an unmanageable mess. This platform wouldn't be possible if it weren't for a confluence of new technologies like systemd and Ansible that makes platforms of this complexity easy to accomplish.

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  • verovero Member, Provider

    @seenu said:
    can anyone tell me why it is great/different from others?

    i have visited website many and it seems impressive, also some different approach but i don't actually get how it helps me better than others say cyberpanel

    You know, I feel pretty much the same. But the problem is not the product, but rather myself. I can see that this CP packs many useful features, I can intuitively find required options, it's doing what it's supposed to do and still I feel like I'm staring at controls of alien ship..

    We are already spoiled by simplicity of cPanel, CyberPanel or DA.. On the other hand, DA or CyberPanel doesn't even install SSL for server hostname automatically.. But missing CSF feels extremely uncomfortable, even though it doesn't work with nftables (on Centos 8) directly yet (it works, but not the way it is supposed to work).

    One need to create different mindset to use ApisCP IMO. For me it might take a while and during that time prices can rise x2.5 again (comparing to last years Black Friday sale). But making an investment, like one guy wrote, doesn't look like a solution - you either learn and use this system at it's best or don't touch it at all. That's not an easy decision. For me at least.

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  • nemnem Member, Provider

    @vero said:
    That's not an easy decision. For me at least.

    UX needs work, there's no question about that. ApisCP is still in the innovator stage of adoption. It's picked up some very bright, eager minds that are bringing excellent insight to features we need to have and giving me an opportunity to work exclusively with them to get these features dialed in correctly.

    In this stage docs are canon if you have questions. ApisCP ships with Rampart, which is designed as a secure firewall bolted into ApisCP that can be managed entirely from its API. Rampart is structural to ApisCP; it selectively monitors services as components are added/removed.

    Those that have switched over absolutely love it. Yet, it's still in early adoption where communication and solid architecture is critical. cPanel's limited progress over the last few years reinforces exactly how important a strong foundation is. You can hammer in only so many nails into a house before it collapses upon itself.

    Technology is always moving. Keep ApisCP in mind for the future.

  • seenuseenu Member
    edited December 2020

    @vero said:

    @seenu said:
    can anyone tell me why it is great/different from others?

    i have visited website many and it seems impressive, also some different approach but i don't actually get how it helps me better than others say cyberpanel

    You know, I feel pretty much the same. But the problem is not the product, but rather myself. I can see that this CP packs many useful features, I can intuitively find required options, it's doing what it's supposed to do and still I feel like I'm staring at controls of alien ship..

    We are already spoiled by simplicity of cPanel, CyberPanel or DA.. On the other hand, DA or CyberPanel doesn't even install SSL for server hostname automatically.. But missing CSF feels extremely uncomfortable, even though it doesn't work with nftables (on Centos 8) directly yet (it works, but not the way it is supposed to work).

    One need to create different mindset to use ApisCP IMO. For me it might take a while and during that time prices can rise x2.5 again (comparing to last years Black Friday sale). But making an investment, like one guy wrote, doesn't look like a solution - you either learn and use this system at it's best or don't touch it at all. That's not an easy decision. For me at least.

    Thanks for the insights, last week i have installed it on a ryzen box so installation finished in 20mins but lot of ambiguity using it yet still i tried to use it, waking up next day.... i decided it is not for me and just deleted VM, i am not trying to make any negative reviews for it but just felt, it is not for me.

    i mostly manage sites with vps directly and in cyberpanel, i have only 4 sites there and wanted to move them here but with all the initial work i need to do, i just decided to skip it this time.

    thought of getting pro lifetime license, because price might increase later and i regret not having many life times licenses (ex: DA) so it is a chance for me to do, but i agree with you about either learn and use or just dont touch it.

    somewhere in jan/feb, i will get plenty of free time, so i can try it once again that time.

  • nemnem Member, Provider

    @seenu said:
    Thanks for the insights, last week i have installed it on a ryzen box so installation finished in 20mins but lot of ambiguity using it yet still i tried to use it, waking up next day.... i decided it is not for me and just deleted VM, i am not trying to make any negative reviews for it but just felt, it is not for me.

    i mostly manage sites with vps directly and in cyberpanel, i have only 4 sites there and wanted to move them here but with all the initial work i need to do, i just decided to skip it this time.

    Any issues in particular that seemed confusing or areas that can be improved upon to help usability?

    What initial work as well? There's no immediate plans to provide a CyberPanel import facility, but ApisCP has 1-clicks for Laravel and WordPress among others, as well as automated updates and security profiles to make it secure. Getting started with these shouldn't take more than a couple minutes.

  • Since you are asking for feedback maybe I can share some things I found confusing/difficult to use and can be improved in ApnisCP (compared to other CP like DA, Cpanel and Keyhelp)

    Note that I'm an average or below average user (Not expert in managing servers). So please take my point with that in mind.

    1- DNS management was just so confusing to me. When I have a vps for example I tend to have it running DNS server such as powerDNS or Bind. Other CP gives a full customization and control of the service zones/config and I don't have to use the SSH command line at all or other use a third solution to manage and edit. And it work out of the box after the CP installation ( When I chose to go with buitin powerDNS server). e.g. I ws not able to edit the NS in the zone from the panel itself.
    Maybe in the future you can improve this.
    (I should be using the CP interface for 99% of configurations of the server)

    2- Mail management, the panel is suppose to eliminate the need for a third party solution such as mailchannel and work out of the box, after installation I tested this and it worked but with some issues related to deliverability of the emails sent, because dkim was not valid/setup incorrectly the Spam score got high and the email ended up in the SPAM box of the receiver. So I have to do some additional work to get this working properly.

    I have used the same IP and domain with same email but using KH CP and the setup worked perfectly after installation (only had to add the domain and create the mail box) and emails get delivered to the INBOX and they get a good spam score.

    Also another point for the email management: When I try to create a new mail box under a user: Say John, for example [email protected] it will be created but all emails sent to that new mail box will be delivered to [email protected] instead and if I want to use [email protected], I have to create a new user : "a". This I did hate honestly.

    These some of the things that I noticed within a day of testing, I'll do more testing after the new year of course.

    I'm 100 % sure that after you read my comment you would say all this because I missed to setup something or didn't do it right and this is my point here. Most users including myself want something that works out of the box with minimum/basic tweaks and configurations required.

    Also you might need to start supporting more languages, 18 years and only see English and German. I'm willing to help with translation for Arabic if you want to add it in the future.

    Having said that, I still believe this Panel has a great future, and no regret on my little investment :)

    Thanks

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