Beta testers needed for cloud project

marvel

Hello all,

I'm looking for beta testers for a new Cloud project. I'm facing some bugs and I need to iron them out. Of course in return for your help you will be rewarded. So read on if you are interested and have enough time on your hands

I'm running a Proxmox Cloud setup with Proxmox Cloud for WHMCS and the idea is that you purchase the resources, not the VPS. So you can specify how much IPv4, IPv6, vCPU, RAM, Disk etc you want and then you can built either one big machine or several smaller machines.

IPv4 is not mandatory, you can use IPv6 only or built your own router and use LAN/NAT networking. So you can be very creative in battling the IPv4 exhaustion (although the isolated LAN part is not implemented yet but will be within a few days).

The hosting comes with a lot of perks:

• 100 GB Free Backup space (you can schedule backups for each VM).
• 1 free snapshot.
• Unmetered bandwidth (fair usage).
• Hotplug CPU/Disk/Network. So you can add/remove resources without rebooting.
• HA, High Availability. So your machine will only be down for the time it needs to start on HW failure.
• Floating IP. Connect your IPv4/IPv6 to whatever VM.
• First 5 IPv6 /64 subnets free.
• DNS Management (Add reverse DNS).
• Firewall control panel.
• Triple replicated shared NVMe disk space (CEPH setup).
• Fully redundant setup, double switching, A+B power feeds, shared storage, 2 gigabit LACP internet.
• Colt IP Guardian DDoS protection with POPs around the globe.
• Several available ISOs to install your own OS. OPNSense, Windows, BSD etc. More added on request.
• Latest versions of cloud-init images (Ubuntu, Debian, Arch etc).

Coming soon:

• Isolated private LAN 80 GBps (couple working days).
• Bulk storage (add up to 20 TB additional SATA storage, couple weeks).
• DMCA free hosting (Waiting for IPv4 announce, couple working days).

So what you get is for EUR 30/month worth of hosting for free. You will get:

• Antwerp, Belgium DC, great connections to AMS, PAR, LON, FRA.
• AMD EPYC hardware (Will be Ryzen only later on).
• 10 snapshots.
• 1 GBps unmetered (fair usage).
• 4 vCPUs (fair usage).
• 8 GB RAM
• 80 GB NVMe
• 2x IPv4 public.
• 5x IPv6 /64.
• All the above perks.

With that you can built your own machines. I will give away 10 packages of this and you will get it for 3 months, so that's EUR 900 worth of hosting in a free giveaway!

In exchange you need to:

• Be able to deal with all kinds of bugs, maybe even downtime or sudden reboots
• Report any issues with the module or with performance, speed, routing etc.
• Fill in a small survey at the end of the period what you think about the overall quality, price level etc.

Couple limitations:

• No Tor at all, so no relays, bridges or exit nodes.
• No public VPNs, open mail relays or public proxies.
• No stress testing, DDoS bypass research etc.
• No illegal hosting. So no movie download site or booter hosting.
• No scanning/hacking/malware/phishing etc.

When the test period is ended, you can continue to use the package for half the price! So EUR 15/month for all the above specs, which is an absolute steal. But of course there is no obligation, you can just cancel it and walk away as well.

Please apply in this topic and I will PM the registration link to 10 persons. After that I will add all the resources to their account and they can start building. I won't just take the first 10 I will make a careful selection so the more info you provide the better. To apply you need to:

• Specify usage (if it voids DMCA like a seedbox no problem).
• Have 50 posts and 50 thanks minimum and be 6 months+ on LET.
• Providers and LET staff are excluded from this.

You don't have to have any knowledge about this stuff, in fact I would prefer a mix of people that have and people that don't so I can test if the product is suitable for both groups.

Anyway, thanks for reading and thanks in advance for applying! I'm looking forward to your test results

MohamadSY

I’m the first

axelblaze

I am in !!

evanwalters

I'm definitely interested in testing this.

I will be using this for hosting a web application if this is ok with you.

NewToTheGame

I would be interested in giving this a go

plumberg

I would definitely love to test this setup. I would like to setup my own pvt space with different self hosted services (with and wo docker) and manage the fleet via a single interface. Getting a HA setup is what I want to see working.

Thanks!

marvel

@plumberg said:
I would definitely love to test this setup. I would like to setup my own pvt space with different self hosted services (with and wo docker) and manage the fleet via a single interface. Getting a HA setup is what I want to see working.

Thanks!

1st one is in. I will pm you the details soon

Guys I'm looking for a bit more than just 'I'm in'

Btw feel free to pm if you don't want to reply in public.

Andrews

Count me in

isunbejo

Interested

evanwalters

@marvel said:
Btw feel free to pm if you don't want to reply in public.

PM'd

kaz050457

Count me in..

marvel

Gave away 4 so far, 6 left.

valk

I'm interested

Using it just for some web thingy and experimental stuff in multiple instances

marvel

5 gone, 2 have already been activated

Mister

Interrested, send me invite [email protected]

cece

would like to apply for it

cold

im also in !!!!

fragpic

interested

pouyam

I'm been here long time but not have 50 post, if it possible I want to be part of this!

Shishov

I'm interested

benj0x

I'd appreciate if I could participate.

marvel

Got 4 or 5 activated now guys

If you want to get in please tell the use case (or pm it).

Thanks! I will take a break and continue adding people tomorrow.

yoursunny

@marvel said:
Isolated private LAN 80 GBps (couple working days).

I've never heard about 80Gbps network interface. Do you mean dual 40Gbps?
Do you support SR-IOV device in the VM?

marvel

@yoursunny said:

@marvel said:
Isolated private LAN 80 GBps (couple working days).

I've never heard about 80Gbps network interface. Do you mean dual 40Gbps?
Do you support SR-IOV device in the VM?

Indeed 40GBps LACP.

SR-IOV not at this time, I might do it in the future but perhaps later in Openstack with Nvidia grid. But def. not in the foreseeable future.

yoursunny

@marvel said:

@yoursunny said:

@marvel said:
Isolated private LAN 80 GBps (couple working days).

I've never heard about 80Gbps network interface. Do you mean dual 40Gbps?
Do you support SR-IOV device in the VM?

Indeed 40GBps LACP.

SR-IOV not at this time, I might do it in the future but perhaps later in Openstack with Nvidia grid. But def. not in the foreseeable future.

I was hoping to test Data Plane Development Kit (DPDK) and NDN-DPDK in SR-IOV.
If you have SR-IOV some day and decide to run another beta testing, I'll help.

MaxKVM

These are very impressive features. It would be awesome to poke around and test this out. Nice work @marvel

royed

If I can help, let me know.

raindog308

@marvel said: Providers and LET staff are excluded from this.

loger8

Count me in..

fLoo

im in

Ouji

If you still need one, let me know.

chihcherng

I'm interested. I will do what I always do, that is to detect (passively) and report malware-infected computers so that their (victim) owners get a chance to fix the problem. HAProxy is my detection tool, which acts as a honeypot with no interaction, waiting patiently for malicious connection attempts.

RickBakkr

This seems a great way to create an environment to build (and play around with) a Kubernetes cluster. Friends of mine have been telling me I should and how wonderful it is, but never saw a great environment to spin the dynamic nodes for it.

Also, having high performant infra of some kind at the 'neighbours' in Belgium has always been a secret pleasure for me. Would be lovely if you were to let me in.

Bedankt kerel, or in case you're Walloon: merci beaucoup!

(Just noticed the "No Providers" rule; does being a LIR around here, make me rule out?)

jsg

I can offer what you require and I'd focus on benchmarking, testing and playing with multiple (less common) linux VPS and BSD. Am also interested in non-Ryzen.
Bonus: you'd get a qualified review; could do/am willing to do one intermediate and one final at the end.

MannDude

I'm game. I'm poor nowadays and wouldn't mind a system to play with to get reintroduced back into the modern market. Been using VPSes for going on about ten years now and it's always a pleasure to see how the industry progresses over time. Glad it's not just another random OpenVZ/SolusVM offer on some rented dedis like what seems to dominate a lot of these spaces...

I'll put it to good use.

Lutung

interested.
any slot for me?

i'm using it for webhosting.

seenu

Currently using openVZ for my gitlab instance and thinking of moving away from it for performance reasons and love for ryzen.

so i can install gitlab in this, if you still need a beta tester

marvel

Well, the response has been overwhelming. I ended up adding 13 people so 3 more then I had in mind.

Oh well it's Sinterklaas today

I will also try and monitor activity a bit, if someone has not been using their service within a week or so I will pick someone else.

Thanks all!!

jsg

Intermediate benchmark/review:

Machine: amd64, Arch.: amd64, Model: Common KVM processor
OS, version: FreeBSD 12.2, Mem.: 1.986 GB
CPU - Cores: 2, Family/Model/Stepping: 15/6/1
Cache: 64K/64K L1d/L1i, 512K L2, 16M L3
Std. Flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat
          pse36 cflsh mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt sse3 cx16 **aes** hypervisor
Ext. Flags: syscall nx lm lahf_lm cmp_legacy

ProcMem SC: avg 279.5 - min 272.1, max 284.3
ProcMem MC: avg 551.8 - min 532.6, max 570.0

Doesn't feel like an Epyc, more like a 26xx v2 (which still is not at all bad). AES and Hypervisor flags but no popcnt. Seems not overbooked, pretty much like a VDS, nice.

Write seq.: avg 570.05 - min 489.54 (85.9%), max 631.17 (110.7%)
Write rnd.: avg 4344.66 - min 3725.02 (85.7%), max 4884.05 (112.4%)
Read seq.:  avg 315.15 - min 267.92 (85.0%), max 345.83 (109.7%)
Read rnd.:  avg 3529.06 - min 2544.56 (72.1%), max 4807.78 (136.2%)
--- Disk - Sync/Direct ---
Write seq.: avg 8.51 - min 8.00 (94.0%), max 8.69 (102.1%)
Write rnd.: avg 17.38 - min 16.83 (96.8%), max 18.15 (104.4%)
Read seq.:  avg 972.10 - min 792.94 (81.6%), max 1434.00 (147.5%)
Read rnd.:  avg 142.16 - min 131.91 (92.8%), max 154.45 (108.6%)

Either a SSD or a not really fast NVMe. Largely tight spread though. All in all (partly upper) mid range I'd say.

US LAX lax.download.datapacket.com
  DL [MB/s]: avg 37.81 - min 6.07 (16.1%), max 45.11 (119.3%)
  Ping:      avg 149.9 - min 144.8 (96.6%), max 155.3 (103.6%)
  Web ping:  avg 151.2 - min 145.0 (95.9%), max 155.3 (102.7%)

NO OSL speedtest.osl01.softlayer.com
  DL [MB/s]: avg 182.20 - min 116.96 (64.2%), max 202.93 (111.4%)
  Ping:      avg 29.1 - min 28.6 (98.3%), max 38.8 (133.3%)
  Web ping:  avg 29.2 - min 28.7 (98.1%), max 38.8 (132.7%)

US SJC speedtest.sjc01.softlayer.com
  DL [MB/s]: avg 38.74 - min 25.51 (65.8%), max 43.00 (111.0%)
  Ping:      avg 146.7 - min 145.8 (99.4%), max 147.3 (100.4%)
  Web ping:  avg 332.8 - min 145.9 (43.8%), max 2235.2 (671.5%)

IT MIL speedtest.mil01.softlayer.com
  DL [MB/s]: avg 190.35 - min 14.35 (7.5%), max 219.21 (115.2%)
  Ping:      avg 24.9 - min 24.5 (98.5%), max 33.4 (134.2%)
  Web ping:  avg 50.6 - min 24.5 (48.4%), max 843.4 (1667.3%)

FR PAR speedtest.par01.softlayer.com
  DL [MB/s]: avg 362.42 - min 132.29 (36.5%), max 405.82 (112.0%)
  Ping:      avg 13.8 - min 13.5 (97.6%), max 16.3 (117.8%)
  Web ping:  avg 44.2 - min 13.6 (30.8%), max 726.3 (1643.3%)

SG SGP mirror.sg.leaseweb.net
  DL [MB/s]: avg 34.87 - min 1.98 (5.7%), max 40.88 (117.2%)
  Ping:      avg 158.4 - min 158.3 (99.9%), max 159.3 (100.5%)
  Web ping:  avg 158.5 - min 158.3 (99.9%), max 159.4 (100.5%)

GR UNK speedtest.ftp.otenet.gr
  DL [MB/s]: avg 111.44 - min 78.22 (70.2%), max 124.19 (111.4%)
  Ping:      avg 78596.9 - min 50.5 (0.1%), max 801840.3 (1020.2%)
  Web ping:  avg 78641.0 - min 50.5 (0.1%), max 801840.3 (1019.6%)

US WDC mirror.wdc1.us.leaseweb.net
  DL [MB/s]: avg 59.93 - min 1.93 (3.2%), max 73.83 (123.2%)
  Ping:      avg 91.2 - min 85.6 (93.8%), max 95.8 (105.0%)
  Web ping:  avg 91.6 - min 85.7 (93.5%), max 96.1 (104.9%)

DE FRA speedtest.fra02.softlayer.com
  DL [MB/s]: avg 304.82 - min 78.26 (25.7%), max 372.58 (122.2%)
  Ping:      avg 15.4 - min 15.1 (97.8%), max 18.9 (122.4%)
  Web ping:  avg 22.6 - min 15.1 (66.9%), max 242.1 (1072.3%)

RU MOS speedtest.hostkey.ru
  DL [MB/s]: avg 111.08 - min 45.55 (41.0%), max 126.67 (114.0%)
  Ping:      avg 46.4 - min 46.2 (99.6%), max 47.1 (101.5%)
  Web ping:  avg 48.0 - min 46.4 (96.7%), max 52.9 (110.2%)

US DAL speedtest.dal05.softlayer.com
  DL [MB/s]: avg 48.74 - min 29.92 (61.4%), max 53.86 (110.5%)
  Ping:      avg 112.1 - min 111.0 (99.0%), max 118.8 (106.0%)
  Web ping:  avg 116.2 - min 111.1 (95.6%), max 183.4 (157.8%)

UK LON speedtest.lon02.softlayer.com
  DL [MB/s]: avg 501.66 - min 20.78 (4.1%), max 627.40 (125.1%)
  Ping:      avg 9.1 - min 8.7 (95.8%), max 18.2 (200.3%)
  Web ping:  avg 9.4 - min 8.8 (93.9%), max 18.2 (194.3%)

US NYC nyc.download.datapacket.com
  DL [MB/s]: avg 76.87 - min 30.38 (39.5%), max 89.90 (117.0%)
  Ping:      avg 75.8 - min 73.0 (96.3%), max 80.6 (106.4%)
  Web ping:  avg 76.7 - min 73.1 (95.4%), max 81.0 (105.7%)

RO BUC 185.183.99.8
  DL [MB/s]: avg 125.88 - min 75.60 (60.1%), max 139.07 (110.5%)
  Ping:      avg 41.0 - min 40.9 (99.8%), max 41.4 (101.0%)
  Web ping:  avg 41.1 - min 40.9 (99.5%), max 41.5 (101.0%)

FR_RB  lg-fr.hostnamaste.com
  DL [MB/s]: avg 345.69 - min 202.16 (58.5%), max 440.89 (127.5%)
  Ping:      avg 12.5 - min 12.1 (96.9%), max 20.9 (167.4%)
  Web ping:  avg 12.6 - min 12.1 (95.9%), max 20.9 (165.7%)

Similar to disk. Largely (partly upper) mid range. The fastest, UK_LON is about 500 Mb/s, the other big EU 3 are in the +-300 Mb/s range. No really bad result, largely stable, speed to the Americas and to Asia OK.

All in all nothing to write home about but not at all bad. For the intended price though ... hmmm ...

wl4236820

Count me in
@marvel

Kindy

Count me in
@marvel

toumi111

I am in

fadedmaple

I love testing and I haven't used a Belgian vps, But I don't have 50 posts and thanks ...

swat4

@fadedmaple said:
I love testing and I haven't used a Belgian vps, But I don't have 50 posts and thanks ...

@marvel still has a 30% off for you

https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3187313/#Comment_3187313

marvel

@jsg said:
All in all nothing to write home about but not at all bad. For the intended price though ... hmmm ...

Thanks for testing this! First time I even see such an extensive performance test. Great to see the numbers.

Keep in mind though it's all central storage. You can't expect local disk performance but you get HA, live migration etc. in return.

How much customers would really need the speed of a local NVMe drive anyway. Perhaps 0.01%. I would rather want stability and longer uptimes, that's where I'm going for and yes in return you will get intermediate performance but still good enough for the majority of the people plus you have less limitations like local available disk space.

The EPYCs are indeed Zen 1 so a bit more slow in numbers. The Ryzens are much faster but the EPYCs come with more threads, so I will sell both later on and customers can decide. I would assume EPYC is more suitable for e.g. web servers and I would be able to sell those at a cheaper rate. Also, the Ryzens have no dual PSU and no LACP on the public net so when a node fails HA has to boot it up on another one. The EPYCs have all double hardware.

As for this module, this beta is over. This module is just too buggy. I'm currently messing around with Openstack and Fleio which looks much better already but is very complex to set up. So in the meantime I will just sell preconfigured machines to keep my resources from running idle

And about the price, yes I realize it's more expensive but Belgium is a niche location. Power and bandwidth is really expensive here, so I have to make my setup stand out and provide better service to compete with the others.

Thanks again!

NewToTheGame

I quite liked the service, very flexible and the firewall was a treat. @marvel will eventually implement it another way.

He has moved me to a ryzen, I think you might find you will lose it on a reboot. But have a ryzen there instead.

jsg

@marvel

My review wasn't a complaint but simply a stating of facts, observations and impressions.

I personally am not disk-crazy anyway; I still happily run a couple of spinning rust driven VPSs and would look for NVMe only for specific use cases. Btw. your disk performance numbers are not bad (but neither mouth watering) and I follow your argumentation, but I also see that a very considerable part of VPS buyers are numbers-porn driven. Similarly I'm personally not too concerned about processor performance neither, anything north of 200 (in my benchmark) is good enough, anything north of 300 is really great, and Ryzen 3|59xx speed is insane, but again, many, many potential buyers think their website will be slow with anything other than the most current Ryzen and NVMe.

Where I do see a problem though is with your prices because AMS, PAR, and FRA are "just around the corner" and I guess very few will see having their stuff in Belgium as particularly desirable and pay extra for that.
My advice would be to follow the route you've already started to walk, the route of redundancy, high availability, etc because that actually is something people (albeit to a lesser degree here at LET I guess) are willing to pay a higher price for.

marvel

@jsg said:
@marvel

My review wasn't a complaint but simply a stating of facts, observations and impressions.

I personally am not disk-crazy anyway; I still happily run a couple of spinning rust driven VPSs and would look for NVMe only for specific use cases. Btw. your disk performance numbers are not bad (but neither mouth watering) and I follow your argumentation, but I also see that a very considerable part of VPS buyers are numbers-porn driven. Similarly I'm personally not too concerned about processor performance neither, anything north of 200 (in my benchmark) is good enough, anything north of 300 is really great, and Ryzen 3|59xx speed is insane, but again, many, many potential buyers think their website will be slow with anything other than the most current Ryzen and NVMe.

Where I do see a problem though is with your prices because AMS, PAR, and FRA are "just around the corner" and I guess very few will see having their stuff in Belgium as particularly desirable and pay extra for that.
My advice would be to follow the route you've already started to walk, the route of redundancy, high availability, etc because that actually is something people (albeit to a lesser degree here at LET I guess) are willing to pay a higher price for.

You could also say I'm right in the middle of AMS, FRA, PAR and LON

We'll see, AMS is like 150k so I can always pick everything up move it over there in a weekend in case this fails