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  • 403_Forbidden403_Forbidden Member
    edited November 2020

    Great !

  • Which time zone is this?

  • @PhantomPain said:
    Which time zone is this?

    CET Central European Time

  • @netfox said:

    @PhantomPain said:
    Which time zone is this?

    CET Central European Time

    Nice

  • Sadly site is not showing BF announcement if i change language to English :/

  • hzrhzr Member
    edited November 2020

    (if price 2, it's lower one)

    timeitemstock
    7:00am.eu domain €5.00/yunlimited
    7:00am.ch domain €5.05/yunlimited
    7:00am.li domain €5.05/yunlimited
    7:00amWebhosting 1000 SE 50% discount - €1.94/m €0.97/m100
    7:00amCloud vLAN 2.5 Gbit7s 50% discount - €19.99/m €9.99/m1000
    7:00amVPS 1000 G9 - €5.85/m €4.44/m200
    8:00amRS 2000 G9 - €15.60/m €11.11/m111
    8:00amWebhosting 4000 SE - €7.79/m €3.33/m333
    9:00amVPS Black Surprise - €7.77/m777
    9:00amReseller Webhosting 4000 - 19.49 €/m 9.99 €/m99
    10:00amVPS 500 G8 - €5.16/m €3.99/m50
    11:00amRS Black Special 1 - €10.10/m200
    11:00amWebhosting 2000 SE - 3.89 €/m 2.22 €/m200
    12:00pmRS Black Special 2 - €16.16/m161
    12:00pmWebhosting 8000 SE - €12.66/m €5.55/m1000
    1:00pmReseller Level B - €18.52/m €9.99/m100
    1:00pmRS 8000 G9 SE - €39.39/m100
    2:00pmRS Black Special 3 - €30.30/m200
    3:00pmCloud vLAN Giga - €12.66/m €5.99/m400
    4:00pmRS 4000 G9 SE - €25.00/m200
    5:00pmVPS Black Wonder - €12.12/m200
  • SAPERASAPERA Member
    edited November 2020

    @hzr is it German time? thanks btw
    and date please?

  • Anyone knows what's behind the:
    VPS Black Surprise
    RS Black Special 2
    RS Black Special 1

    offers?
    Couldn't find anything on their website and forums.

  • @Metz said:
    Anyone knows what's behind the:
    VPS Black Surprise
    RS Black Special 2
    RS Black Special 1

    offers?
    Couldn't find anything on their website and forums.

    that's why it's called Surprise ;-) ;-)

    we'll most likely only learn during the sale, however based on previous ones, I'd expect the 7.77 VPS to be something along the lines of 4C/8G/750G and the 12.12 accordingly higher... (vserver range = shared cores/threads)

    the RS black specials could be based on their G8 line using the xeon gold. maybe the 2000/4000/8000 äquivalent with some more RAM/disk? they do have two of these promos with SSDx4 still running (ref):
    https://www.netcup-offers.eu/bestellen/produkt.php?produkt=2432
    https://www.netcup-offers.eu/bestellen/produkt.php?produkt=2473

    with the limited amount especially the smaller offers are usually gone within minutes, so you want to be on time (CET), to be able to grab something...

    also make sure you read and understand the differences about contract term length vs billing term and their cancellation policies ;-)

    best of luck.

    Thanked by 1Metz
  • @Falzo said:

    @Metz said:
    Anyone knows what's behind the:
    VPS Black Surprise
    RS Black Special 2
    RS Black Special 1

    offers?
    Couldn't find anything on their website and forums.

    that's why it's called Surprise ;-) ;-)

    we'll most likely only learn during the sale, however based on previous ones, I'd expect the 7.77 VPS to be something along the lines of 4C/8G/750G and the 12.12 accordingly higher... (vserver range = shared cores/threads)

    the RS black specials could be based on their G8 line using the xeon gold. maybe the 2000/4000/8000 äquivalent with some more RAM/disk? they do have two of these promos with SSDx4 still running (ref):
    https://www.netcup-offers.eu/bestellen/produkt.php?produkt=2432
    https://www.netcup-offers.eu/bestellen/produkt.php?produkt=2473

    with the limited amount especially the smaller offers are usually gone within minutes, so you want to be on time (CET), to be able to grab something...

    also make sure you read and understand the differences about contract term length vs billing term and their cancellation policies ;-)

    best of luck.

    Thanks Falzo!
    The only problem is that the regular RS offers are before the black special - so it's a bit "risky" to wait and see.

    And a nooby question - what is SSD X4? Something like SSD RAID?

  • @Metz said: what is SSD X4? Something like SSD RAID?

    no this just relates to the amount on their regular offer. you get 4 times of that with their offers there. underlying they have some sort of raid/zfs setup anyway.

    @Metz said: The only problem is that the regular RS offers are before the black special - so it's a bit "risky" to wait and see.

    yes true. especially if aiming for something like RS 2000 - you can either get it for already cheap 11.11 early. or sort of gamble and wait for the 10.10 thingy later.
    probably also depends on what you are looking for (e.g. epyc vs xeon gold) and if it's worth that one buck.

    they also do a christmas calendar with a different offer each day. I am pretty sure some of the BF offers will pop up there again, so chances are the RS 2000 G) for that price will come a second time then - no guarantues though.

    Thanked by 1Metz
  • yes true. especially if aiming for something like RS 2000 - you can either get it for already cheap 11.11 early. or sort of gamble and wait for the 10.10 thingy later.
    probably also depends on what you are looking for (e.g. epyc vs xeon gold) and if it's worth that one buck.

    they also do a christmas calendar with a different offer each day. I am pretty sure some of the BF offers will pop up there again, so chances are the RS 2000 G) for that price will come a second time then - no guarantues though.

    Yeah, that's exactly my position right now.
    So not sure if to gamble or not 🙃 (not because of the 1 Euro, more due to the "missed opportunity")

  • @Metz said:

    Yeah, that's exactly my position right now.
    So not sure if to gamble or not 🙃 (not because of the 1 Euro, more due to the "missed opportunity")

    Exactly the same for me. Let's hope for the best. :)

  • Did anyone save the specs of those VPS/RS specials and can share it?
    Just out of curiosity...

  • you'll most likely find it if you go through the first pages of the big pinned BF thread. it has been posted there...

  • Will they have deals tomorrow also with cybermonday?

  • doesn't look like it. they do run their yearly advent calendar with a daily from dec 1st though.

  • Falzo said: hey do run their yearly advent calendar with a daily from dec 1st though.

    It's already up with placeholders:
    https://www.netcup.de/adventskalender/

  • So I recently got my account verified and now running a bench on the RS Black Special 1. The TL;DR is that it's essentially a RS 1000 G9 with 4GB more RAM and 160GB more SSD space for the same price. Same Epyc 7702P CPU and 2.5Gbps uplink.

    They did charge me 19% VAT despite not a resident or citizen of any EU member country. I paid 124,33 EUR in total (advertised price of 10,10 EUR).

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2020-11-20                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Tue Dec  1 10:32:53 CET 2020
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 7702P 64-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 2 @ 1996.250 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 11.7 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 314.9 GiB
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 157.04 MB/s  (39.2k) | 1.67 GB/s    (26.1k)
    Write      | 157.46 MB/s  (39.3k) | 1.67 GB/s    (26.2k)
    Total      | 314.50 MB/s  (78.6k) | 3.35 GB/s    (52.3k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 3.51 GB/s     (6.8k) | 3.59 GB/s     (3.5k)
    Write      | 3.69 GB/s     (7.2k) | 3.83 GB/s     (3.7k)
    Total      | 7.20 GB/s    (14.0k) | 7.42 GB/s     (7.2k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                    |                           |                 |
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 2.22 Gbits/sec  | 2.37 Gbits/sec
    Online.net      | Paris, FR (10G)           | 1.95 Gbits/sec  | 2.35 Gbits/sec
    WorldStream     | The Netherlands (10G)     | 1.96 Gbits/sec  | 2.38 Gbits/sec
    Biznet          | Jakarta, Indonesia (1G)   | busy            | busy
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 574 Mbits/sec   | 1.58 Gbits/sec
    Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 517 Mbits/sec   | 1.50 Gbits/sec
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 419 Mbits/sec   | 738 Mbits/sec
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                    |                           |                 |
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.73 Gbits/sec  | 2.33 Gbits/sec
    Online.net      | Paris, FR (10G)           | 1.40 Gbits/sec  | 2.32 Gbits/sec
    WorldStream     | The Netherlands (10G)     | 1.85 Gbits/sec  | 2.34 Gbits/sec
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 615 Mbits/sec   | 1.41 Gbits/sec
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 526 Mbits/sec   | 1.15 Gbits/sec
    
    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 1007
    Multi Core      | 1938
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/5095004
    

    Unfortunately can't resolve the drive model as it shows as "QEMU HARD DISK".

    Thanked by 3Falzo ofit Bangumi
  • thanks for sharing!

    @CyberneticTitan said: Unfortunately can't resolve the drive model as it shows as "QEMU HARD DISK".

    it's no dedi after all, so obviously you'll never find out ;-)

    afaik they use some SSD raid-10 storage array underneath and the fio numbers are looking great anyway. seems like pretty nice value for the money, grats!

    PS: regarding VAT I think they only remove it, if you can prove that you are a business outside EU, not for private customers though
    let's rather not dive into that discussion again, there are quite some strong, different opinions on that - I am sure from their perspective and tax advisory they're doing the right thing 🤷‍♂️

  • @CyberneticTitan How long was the whole verification process? I'm still waiting for response from them.

  • @Falzo said:
    PS: regarding VAT I think they only remove it, if you can prove that you are a business outside EU, not for private customers though
    let's rather not dive into that discussion again, there are quite some strong, different opinions on that - I am sure from their perspective and tax advisory they're doing the right thing 🤷‍♂️

    Ah I see. Well I guess I'm OK with it as 10 EUR/mo for this box is an absolute steal.

    @jetchirag said:
    @CyberneticTitan How long was the whole verification process? I'm still waiting for response from them.

    So they phoned me a few hours after I snagged the box but I was sleeping so I missed it. They then sent me an email for the verification so I emailed them a photo of my ID. My address that I used to sign up was different than my ID as I had moved since then. 24 hours went by with no reply so I thought they just discarded my order because of the mismatch so I just phoned them. Spoke with a nice rep and got my account verified in minutes.

    Thanked by 2Falzo eva2000
  • jetchiragjetchirag Member
    edited December 2020

    @CyberneticTitan said: 24 hours went by with no reply so I thought they just discarded my order because of the mismatch so I just phoned them

    Received reply on mine some hours back finally but they are asking ton of stuff:

    We received a lot of fake orders in the past. So we ask you to send us a picture which shows you and your id card (it has to be readable in english or german).

    To allocate your order to the sent proof please show additionally a
    piece of paper with your order - ID: vzxxxxxxxx
    on this picture.

    Please also send us a proof of address in English or German.
    In case of doubt, an electricity bill in your name and address will also help.

    For companies hand in a current excerpt from the commercial register or a trade licence in addition

    Even banks don't ask this much these days. Is phone support only german? Can't find on website.

    Thanked by 2BBTN eva2000
  • kalimov622kalimov622 Member
    edited December 2020

    RS Fairy Lights ADV20
    AMD EPYC™ 7702
    4 Dedicated Cores
    20 GB DDR4 ECC RAM
    640 GB SSD
    Price: 16,16€ /mo

    https://www.netcup.de/bestellen/produkt.php?produkt=2690

    Thanked by 1Falzo
  • @jetchirag said: Received reply on mine some hours back finally but they are asking ton of stuff:

    Wow that's quite a lot of work. Really rules out me trying Netcup for the near future at least.

  • @kalimov622 said:
    RS Fairy Lights ADV20
    AMD EPYC™ 7702
    4 Dedicated Cores
    20 GB DDR4 ECC RAM
    640 GB SSD
    Price: 16,16€ /mo

    https://www.netcup.de/bestellen/produkt.php?produkt=2690

    Thank you for posting that. To add 5 euros to my bill, for 2x the cores and 4x the storage is well worth it for me. Just ordered

  • @kalimov622 said:
    RS Fairy Lights ADV20
    AMD EPYC™ 7702
    4 Dedicated Cores
    20 GB DDR4 ECC RAM
    640 GB SSD
    Price: 16,16€ /mo

    https://www.netcup.de/bestellen/produkt.php?produkt=2690

    How much Bandwidth?
    I dont see any details about that.

  • @suricloud said:

    @kalimov622 said:
    RS Fairy Lights ADV20
    AMD EPYC™ 7702
    4 Dedicated Cores
    20 GB DDR4 ECC RAM
    640 GB SSD
    Price: 16,16€ /mo

    https://www.netcup.de/bestellen/produkt.php?produkt=2690

    How much Bandwidth?
    I dont see any details about that.

    It is unlimited, 2.5gbps port.

    Thanked by 1kalimov622
  • Thats great :)

  • Heres a benchmark of that promo : https://www.netcup.de/bestellen/produkt.php?produkt=2690

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

    Yet-Another-Bench-Script

    v2020-11-20

    https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script

    ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##

    Wed 02 Dec 2020 01:28:27 AM CET

    Basic System Information:

    Processor : AMD EPYC 7702P 64-Core Processor
    CPU cores : 4 @ 1996.249 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM : 19.6 GiB
    Swap : 0.0 KiB
    Disk : 629.9 GiB

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 146.13 MB/s (36.5k) 1.72 GB/s (26.8k)
    Write 146.51 MB/s (36.6k) 1.73 GB/s (27.0k)
    Total 292.65 MB/s (73.1k) 3.45 GB/s (53.9k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 3.50 GB/s (6.8k) 3.34 GB/s (3.2k)
    Write 3.69 GB/s (7.2k) 3.57 GB/s (3.4k)
    Total 7.19 GB/s (14.0k) 6.92 GB/s (6.7k)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):

    Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed
    | | |
    Clouvider | London, UK (10G) | 2.01 Gbits/sec | 2.37 Gbits/sec
    Online.net | Paris, FR (10G) | 1.85 Gbits/sec | 2.36 Gbits/sec
    WorldStream | The Netherlands (10G) | 2.25 Gbits/sec | 2.38 Gbits/sec
    Biznet | Jakarta, Indonesia (1G) | 393 Mbits/sec | 391 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | NYC, NY, US (10G) | 207 Mbits/sec | 1.38 Gbits/sec
    Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 502 Mbits/sec | 1.79 Gbits/sec
    Clouvider | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 504 Mbits/sec | 879 Mbits/sec

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):

    Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed
    | | |
    Clouvider | London, UK (10G) | 1.58 Gbits/sec | 2.33 Gbits/sec
    Online.net | Paris, FR (10G) | 1.23 Gbits/sec | 2.32 Gbits/sec
    WorldStream | The Netherlands (10G) | 1.51 Gbits/sec | 2.34 Gbits/sec
    Clouvider | NYC, NY, US (10G) | 263 Mbits/sec | 1.09 Gbits/sec
    Clouvider | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 497 Mbits/sec | 1.07 Gbits/sec

    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:

    Test | Value
    |
    Single Core | 1036
    Multi Core | 3957
    Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/5106676

    Thanked by 2kalimov622 BBTN
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