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I'm looking for a bulletproof provider in Europe

Hello, I would appreciate if you write bulletproof providers located in European borders. What providers are there?

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  • So on your first visit here you are looking for a place for your stolen content?

  • @Unbelievable said:
    So on your first visit here you are looking for a place for your stolen content?

    Please, don't be blank. I just want a bulletproof provider.

  • What for? to spam or for your "linux iso's"

  • @Unbelievable said:
    What for? to spam or for your "linux iso's"

    Necessary for freedom of expression.

  • Perhaps if you elaborate a little bit more on what "bulletproof" means to you, you'll get more answers.

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  • @TorOWnwa said:

    @Unbelievable said:
    What for? to spam or for your "linux iso's"

    Necessary for freedom of expression.

    Keep your host behind cloudflare.

  • @TorOWnwa said:

    @Unbelievable said:
    What for? to spam or for your "linux iso's"

    Necessary for freedom of expression.

    Child porn? Malware hosting? Botnet controller? DDoS for hire website? Terrorism? Far Right/Hate Speech website? Copyright infringement?

    Please, tell us what you are going to host. If its the first 5, please kindly shoot yourself into the head. As for the last 2, there are hosts in LET that can help you.

  • Bullets made of what.

  • @stefeman said:

    @TorOWnwa said:

    @Unbelievable said:
    What for? to spam or for your "linux iso's"

    Necessary for freedom of expression.

    Child porn? Malware hosting? Botnet controller? DDoS for hire website? Terrorism? Far Right/Hate Speech website? Copyright infringement?

    Please, tell us what you are going to host. If its the first 5, please kindly shoot yourself into the head. As for the last 2, there are hosts in LET that can help you.

    We have no business with dirty things. I say free speech and freedom of expression. What are those bad things about?

  • bacloudbacloud Member, Patron Provider

    Sounds spooky. Any reputable company would offer anything? Guess no. Please do not look at my signature.

  • jackbjackb Member, Host Rep
    edited November 2020

    @TorOWnwa said:

    @Unbelievable said:
    What for? to spam or for your "linux iso's"

    Necessary for freedom of expression.

    You don't need or want bulletproof for that. Looking for bulletproof hosts will give you some real nasty neighbours and may bite you later.

    @Francisco is probably the best choice if you're really looking for freedom of expression. He's got a tried and tested policy of not interfering as long as what you're saying/doing/serving doesn't break the law of the land.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Remember, folks.

    Cociu got raided a day or two ago. So, expect some people looking for bulletproof of DMCA proof hosts.

    Personally, I'd reject anyone looking for either or both.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
  • bacloudbacloud Member, Patron Provider
    edited November 2020

    @deank said:
    Remember, folks.

    Cociu got raided a day or two ago. So, expect some people looking for bulletproof of DMCA proof hosts.

    Personally, I'd reject anyone looking for either or both.

    Exactly, guys are looking for another place to host their illegal shit.

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  • DMZHost / Novogara

  • wdmgwdmg Member, LIR
    edited November 2020

    @TorOWnwa said:

    @Unbelievable said:
    What for? to spam or for your "linux iso's"

    Necessary for freedom of expression.

    If what you intend to host complies fully with the laws of America, we ask you submit a request and detail its exact usage and we will evaluate it.

    We’re happy to host content in fear of censorship, but we’ll draw the line at CP/terrorism/malware/spam.

    Do not expect it to be cheap if we accept you considering you asked for a “bulletproof provider”. We’re by no means bulletproof, but we’re willing to take a few black eyes to defend legitimate content from being censored.

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  • UnbelievableUnbelievable Member
    edited November 2020

    @wdmg have you ever taken a "few black eyes" in the USA or EU or is this a new service/idea that you will be charging a premium for? Given the hourly rate for legal counsel, I am presuming you are going to charge a large premium? On the otherhand, its good signature spam to allude to the idea that you will accept such clients then turn them down after "exact usage" is evaluated. I am assuming this is done for all clients- "precensoring" or is it for just this one? Basically, I presume you won't accept this one client but as long as others don't announce their intent on a public forum, you will turn a blind eye.

  • wdmgwdmg Member, LIR

    @Unbelievable said:
    @wdmg have you ever taken a "few black eyes" in the USA or EU or is this a new service/idea that you will be charging a premium for? Given the hourly rate for legal counsel, I am presuming you are going to charge a large premium? On the otherhand, its good signature spam to allude to the idea that you will accept such clients then turn them down after "exact usage" is evaluated. I am assuming this is done for all clients- "precensoring" or is it for just this one? Basically, I presume you won't accept this one client but as long as others don't announce their intent on a public forum, you will turn a blind eye.

    We follow law of the land and have since day one, which means if it's legal in the country where it's hosted we will allow it. Whenever someone asks for "bulletproof hosting" and claims it's because of "freedom of expression" we generally ask for more information to make a determination and check with the laws to ensure the content would comply where it is hosted. We're more than happy to host controversial content, political content, etc -- as long as it doesn't cross the line of being considered illegal in the country it's hosted in.

    Given the hourly rate for legal counsel, I am presuming you are going to charge a large premium?

    We don't charge customers anything if we need to seek legal counsel on it. To date we've never had any legal requests from law enforcement... just a few dozen threats to "down us" or "hack us", and some death threats for refusing to terminate customers where their opinions aren't agreed with.

    its good signature spam to allude to the idea that you will accept such clients then turn them down after "exact usage" is evaluated

    If the customer wants to come and host malware, we will happily remove them. This is not tolerated on our network. However, if they want to legitimately express their opinion legally, popular or not, we'd take the black eye to let them no matter what.

    I am assuming this is done for all clients- "precensoring" or is it for just this one?

    We've yet to reject a customer through the process of where we ask for more detailed information. Often times the customers are unaware they don't need "bulletproof hosting" to express themselves -- they just need a provider not willing to back down to public opinion. To date, we've yet to receive a legal complaint about any of our customers hosted content.

    For those who want a tl;dr:

    We'll host any content that's legal in the country where the server is, and do everything in our power to keep it online, even if the content isn't popular with public opinion. We do not back down to public opinion, so we welcome all customers who need freedom of expression.

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  • There is one i have been with before with dedicated server, my.dedi.al/cart.php?gid=5

  • Are you expecting a drive-by shooting or something?

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  • @SnowStylez said:
    DMZHost / Novogara

    DMZHost resells Novogara.

    @TorOWnwa said:
    Hello, I would appreciate if you write bulletproof providers located in European borders. What providers are there?

    https://vps.keff.org
    https://svea.net

    Both use the same network and allow everything if it's allowed in sweden.

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  • @jackb said:

    For those who want a tl;dr:

    We'll host any content that's legal in the country where the server is, and do everything in our power to keep it online, even if the content isn't popular with public opinion. We do not back down to public opinion, so we welcome all customers who need freedom of expression.

    Isn't this basically every hosting out there ?

  • jackbjackb Member, Host Rep

    @yokowasis said:

    @jackb said:

    For those who want a tl;dr:

    We'll host any content that's legal in the country where the server is, and do everything in our power to keep it online, even if the content isn't popular with public opinion. We do not back down to public opinion, so we welcome all customers who need freedom of expression.

    Isn't this basically every hosting out there ?

    I think you meant to quote @wdmg, not me

  • You are looking for bulletproof! This one can save your data from nuclear bomb.https://youtube.com/watch?v=s4E_Qdpc9S0

  • pbxpbx Member
    edited November 2020

    Never heard of them. They do seem rather small. Do you have direct experience with them (or run any of these)?

    @op: any serious host should do for "free speech", as long as your stuff isn't illegal of course.

  • Cyberbunker. Not.

  • @Anna_Parker said:
    Cyberbunker. Not.

    Cyberbunker is down :)
    https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/cyberbunker-prozess-um-darknet-zentrum-an-der-mosel-a-0b55341c-63b3-43d8-88a3-18540cf689d6

    Prozess um den "Cyberbunker" beginnt
    In einem alten Bundeswehrbunker in Traben-Trarbach ist vor einem Jahr ein Darknet-Rechenzentrum aufgeflogen. Nun beginnt der Prozess gegen die Betreiber des "Cyberbunkers".

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @TorOWnwa said: I say free speech and freedom of expression. What are those bad things about?

    Then you sure as shit don't want Europe.

    Francisco

  • @Francisco said:

    @TorOWnwa said: I say free speech and freedom of expression. What are those bad things about?

    Then you sure as shit don't want Europe.

    Francisco

    Came to say the same thing... bulletproof in Europe... what drugs are you on OP?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @hackerman said: bulletproof in Europe... what drugs are you on OP?

    Bulletproof is possible no doubt, but not for freedom of speech stuff.

    You raise your arm the wrong way to scratch yourself in Germany and they'll arrest you.

    If you're hosting political content that's 'extreme' to either side, you'll probably want to be in the States.

    Don't say Romania either. There was literally a case a couple weeks ago where hostsolutions got borderline raided (or actually raided) and things were down for a couple days.

    Francisco

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