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What kind of servers will you use for ETH2.0 validator node?

PhantomPainPhantomPain Member
edited November 8 in General

The validator deposit for ETH2.0 has begun since a few days ago
Due to the potential earning will not be too much, it is essential to manage the cost
Which kind of servers would you like to use for running a validator node?

Servers for Validator Node
  1. Kind of Servers26 votes
    1. Dedicated server
      34.62%
    2. Cloud Services (AWS, GCE etc..)
        7.69%
    3. VPS
        3.85%
    4. Raspberry Pi or similar device
      34.62%
    5. PC
        0.00%
    6. I don't want to host any validator node by myself
      19.23%

Comments

  • FreeBSD 12.2

    Fastmako (aff) - great VPS for your needs.

  • jackbjackb Member, Provider
    edited November 8

    If the potential earning is not much why bother? There's plenty other cryptocurrencies that are more commonly used - and so, are less of a waste of electric vs this new shitcoin.

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  • @jackb said:
    If the potential earning is not much why bother? There's plenty other cryptocurrencies that are more commonly used - and so, are less of a waste of electric vs this new shitcoin.

    Hmmm.. the potential return for each node is approximately 1.5 ETH to 6.9 ETH each year
    It's not too much but it worth doing it
    And that is not a new shitcoin. It's the ethereum

  • sonicsonic Member

    @jackb said:
    If the potential earning is not much why bother? There's plenty other cryptocurrencies that are more commonly used - and so, are less of a waste of electric vs this new shitcoin.

    New shitcoin?

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  • pacopaco Member

    @sonic said:

    @jackb said:
    If the potential earning is not much why bother? There's plenty other cryptocurrencies that are more commonly used - and so, are less of a waste of electric vs this new shitcoin.

    New shitcoin?

    Well, if you're a Bitcoin originalist then all of these are just new shitcoins not even worth 4 digits per coin I mean can you even imagine?

  • SplitIceSplitIce Member, Provider

    The cost of running a single validator node is quite high due to the size of the eth block chain. Assuming you don't plan on loosing your deposit you will want to do it on at-least a VPS server.

    Doing it at-home on a pi/your pc sounds like a great way to loose your deposit.

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  • @SplitIce said:
    you don't plan on loosing your deposit you will want to do it on at-least a VPS server.

    Goodluck not being terminated within the first 24 hours.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    @mezoology said:

    @SplitIce said:
    you don't plan on loosing your deposit you will want to do it on at-least a VPS server.

    Goodluck not being terminated within the first 24 hours.

    Why would you get terminated?

    Francisco

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  • @Francisco said:

    @mezoology said:

    @SplitIce said:
    you don't plan on loosing your deposit you will want to do it on at-least a VPS server.

    Goodluck not being terminated within the first 24 hours.

    Why would you get terminated?

    Francisco

    CPU abuse ?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider
    edited November 10

    @mezoology said: CPU abuse ?

    Buy from a host that gives dedicated CPU.

    Like yours truly.

    Francisco

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  • @mezoology said:

    @Francisco said:

    @mezoology said:

    @SplitIce said:
    you don't plan on loosing your deposit you will want to do it on at-least a VPS server.

    Goodluck not being terminated within the first 24 hours.

    Why would you get terminated?

    Francisco

    CPU abuse ?

    Grab a Slice.

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  • @sonic said:

    @mezoology said:

    @Francisco said:

    @mezoology said:

    @SplitIce said:
    you don't plan on loosing your deposit you will want to do it on at-least a VPS server.

    Goodluck not being terminated within the first 24 hours.

    Why would you get terminated?

    Francisco

    CPU abuse ?

    Grab a Slice.

    sorry, i dont do mining, im more into ratting.> @Francisco said:

    @mezoology said: CPU abuse ?

    Buy from a host that gives dedicated CPU.

    Like yours truly.

    Francisco

    like mine ?

    on another note, how you make sure you purchased a dedicated CPU, not false advertising?

  • pacopaco Member

    Just quickly ran iostat on my geth node (full node, fully synced). CPU doesn't seem to be the issue.

    [email protected]:~$ sudo iostat -c -d 20 10 -N -t -z
    Linux 4.19.0-11-amd64 (ethere) 11/10/2020 x86_64 (8 CPU)

    11/10/2020 01:11:37 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    15.56 0.00 4.16 0.33 0.00 79.94

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 309.22 2972.18 547.26 638469111 117559260
    sdb 230.54 2289.65 424.24 491851801 91132556
    etherws-ethers 537.82 5213.27 951.86 1119890609 204474800

    11/10/2020 01:11:57 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    8.87 0.00 3.84 0.01 0.00 87.29

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 10.00 80.40 3.00 1608 60
    sdb 11.85 88.00 6.00 1760 120
    etherws-ethers 21.60 168.00 7.20 3360 144

    11/10/2020 01:12:17 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    14.01 0.00 4.12 0.04 0.00 81.83

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 22.95 184.00 27.20 3680 544
    sdb 27.10 234.60 2.80 4692 56
    etherws-ethers 49.85 418.60 27.40 8372 548

    11/10/2020 01:12:37 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    15.75 0.00 4.70 0.04 0.00 79.50

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 26.95 239.80 15.60 4796 312
    sdb 33.30 275.20 10.40 5504 208
    etherws-ethers 61.35 515.00 27.20 10300 544

    11/10/2020 01:12:57 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    18.86 0.00 5.52 0.03 0.00 75.60

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 29.00 260.80 52.60 5216 1052
    sdb 33.45 283.80 10.00 5676 200
    etherws-ethers 63.20 544.60 62.60 10892 1252

    11/10/2020 01:13:17 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    10.63 0.00 4.82 0.01 0.00 84.53

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 17.95 152.80 3.60 3056 72
    sdb 22.90 192.60 2.80 3852 56
    etherws-ethers 40.80 344.80 5.20 6896 104

    11/10/2020 01:13:37 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    15.66 0.00 4.82 0.02 0.00 79.50

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 29.55 260.60 18.20 5212 364
    sdb 37.45 314.60 10.60 6292 212
    etherws-ethers 67.50 575.20 28.60 11504 572

    11/10/2020 01:13:57 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    7.10 0.00 3.69 0.00 0.00 89.21

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 4.25 33.40 27.60 668 552
    sdb 4.10 31.20 4.40 624 88
    etherws-ethers 8.75 64.60 32.00 1292 640

    11/10/2020 01:14:17 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    14.63 0.00 4.10 0.07 0.00 81.20

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 23.95 207.80 1.20 4156 24
    sdb 29.15 246.00 3.40 4920 68
    etherws-ethers 52.90 453.00 4.20 9060 84

    11/10/2020 01:14:37 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    11.05 0.00 4.91 0.02 0.00 84.01

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 26.40 197.40 15.00 3948 300
    sdb 34.20 284.20 8.00 5684 160
    etherws-ethers 60.60 481.60 19.60 9632 392`

  • @SplitIce said:
    The cost of running a single validator node is quite high due to the size of the eth block chain. Assuming you don't plan on loosing your deposit you will want to do it on at-least a VPS server.

    Doing it at-home on a pi/your pc sounds like a great way to loose your deposit.

    It is recommended but not required to host a full node by yourself
    You can use some free api service like infura and run the validator node separately

  • SplitIceSplitIce Member, Provider

    @PhantomPain said: It is recommended but not required to host a full node by yourself

    You can use some free api service like infura and run the validator node separately

    Infura is not good for that kind of usage. API request limit for example.

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  • @SplitIce said:

    @PhantomPain said: It is recommended but not required to host a full node by yourself

    You can use some free api service like infura and run the validator node separately

    Infura is not good for that kind of usage. API request limit for example.

    How many requests does the validator node need?
    Infura offers 100k request per day for free but I don't know whether it is enough

  • SplitIceSplitIce Member, Provider
    edited November 12

    @PhantomPain said: Infura offers 100k request per day for free but I don't know whether it is enough

    I don't think anyone can answer that honestly until ETH2.0 gets up to full steam. I would not expect it to be enough however. And at some point, with enough validation requests - it won't be.

    Lets not forget that you are gambling ~$16k here on this free service with tight rate limits... for at most 10% (realistically 2-3% after costs).

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  • @SplitIce said:

    @PhantomPain said: Infura offers 100k request per day for free but I don't know whether it is enough

    I don't think anyone can answer that honestly until ETH2.0 gets up to full steam. I would not expect it to be enough however.

    Lets not forget that you are gambling ~$16k here on this free service with tight rate limits... for at most 10% (realistically 2-3% after costs).

    higher return on an index fund lol

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  • @SirFoxy said:

    @SplitIce said:

    @PhantomPain said: Infura offers 100k request per day for free but I don't know whether it is enough

    I don't think anyone can answer that honestly until ETH2.0 gets up to full steam. I would not expect it to be enough however.

    Lets not forget that you are gambling ~$16k here on this free service with tight rate limits... for at most 10% (realistically 2-3% after costs).

    higher return on an index fund lol

    In this situation it is more like earning extra 10% fund share per year.

  • @paco said:
    Just quickly ran iostat on my geth node (full node, fully synced). CPU doesn't seem to be the issue.

    [email protected]:~$ sudo iostat -c -d 20 10 -N -t -z
    Linux 4.19.0-11-amd64 (ethere) 11/10/2020 x86_64 (8 CPU)

    11/10/2020 01:11:37 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    15.56 0.00 4.16 0.33 0.00 79.94

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 309.22 2972.18 547.26 638469111 117559260
    sdb 230.54 2289.65 424.24 491851801 91132556
    etherws-ethers 537.82 5213.27 951.86 1119890609 204474800

    11/10/2020 01:11:57 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    8.87 0.00 3.84 0.01 0.00 87.29

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 10.00 80.40 3.00 1608 60
    sdb 11.85 88.00 6.00 1760 120
    etherws-ethers 21.60 168.00 7.20 3360 144

    11/10/2020 01:12:17 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    14.01 0.00 4.12 0.04 0.00 81.83

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 22.95 184.00 27.20 3680 544
    sdb 27.10 234.60 2.80 4692 56
    etherws-ethers 49.85 418.60 27.40 8372 548

    11/10/2020 01:12:37 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    15.75 0.00 4.70 0.04 0.00 79.50

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 26.95 239.80 15.60 4796 312
    sdb 33.30 275.20 10.40 5504 208
    etherws-ethers 61.35 515.00 27.20 10300 544

    11/10/2020 01:12:57 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    18.86 0.00 5.52 0.03 0.00 75.60

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 29.00 260.80 52.60 5216 1052
    sdb 33.45 283.80 10.00 5676 200
    etherws-ethers 63.20 544.60 62.60 10892 1252

    11/10/2020 01:13:17 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    10.63 0.00 4.82 0.01 0.00 84.53

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 17.95 152.80 3.60 3056 72
    sdb 22.90 192.60 2.80 3852 56
    etherws-ethers 40.80 344.80 5.20 6896 104

    11/10/2020 01:13:37 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    15.66 0.00 4.82 0.02 0.00 79.50

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 29.55 260.60 18.20 5212 364
    sdb 37.45 314.60 10.60 6292 212
    etherws-ethers 67.50 575.20 28.60 11504 572

    11/10/2020 01:13:57 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    7.10 0.00 3.69 0.00 0.00 89.21

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 4.25 33.40 27.60 668 552
    sdb 4.10 31.20 4.40 624 88
    etherws-ethers 8.75 64.60 32.00 1292 640

    11/10/2020 01:14:17 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    14.63 0.00 4.10 0.07 0.00 81.20

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 23.95 207.80 1.20 4156 24
    sdb 29.15 246.00 3.40 4920 68
    etherws-ethers 52.90 453.00 4.20 9060 84

    11/10/2020 01:14:37 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    11.05 0.00 4.91 0.02 0.00 84.01

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 26.40 197.40 15.00 3948 300
    sdb 34.20 284.20 8.00 5684 160
    etherws-ethers 60.60 481.60 19.60 9632 392`

    Could you please show us the server specs which you used for the full node?

  • pacopaco Member

    @PhantomPain said:

    @paco said:
    Just quickly ran iostat on my geth node (full node, fully synced). CPU doesn't seem to be the issue.

    [email protected]:~$ sudo iostat -c -d 20 10 -N -t -z
    Linux 4.19.0-11-amd64 (ethere) 11/10/2020 x86_64 (8 CPU)

    11/10/2020 01:11:37 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    15.56 0.00 4.16 0.33 0.00 79.94

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 309.22 2972.18 547.26 638469111 117559260
    sdb 230.54 2289.65 424.24 491851801 91132556
    etherws-ethers 537.82 5213.27 951.86 1119890609 204474800

    11/10/2020 01:11:57 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    8.87 0.00 3.84 0.01 0.00 87.29

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 10.00 80.40 3.00 1608 60
    sdb 11.85 88.00 6.00 1760 120
    etherws-ethers 21.60 168.00 7.20 3360 144

    11/10/2020 01:12:17 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    14.01 0.00 4.12 0.04 0.00 81.83

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 22.95 184.00 27.20 3680 544
    sdb 27.10 234.60 2.80 4692 56
    etherws-ethers 49.85 418.60 27.40 8372 548

    11/10/2020 01:12:37 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    15.75 0.00 4.70 0.04 0.00 79.50

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 26.95 239.80 15.60 4796 312
    sdb 33.30 275.20 10.40 5504 208
    etherws-ethers 61.35 515.00 27.20 10300 544

    11/10/2020 01:12:57 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    18.86 0.00 5.52 0.03 0.00 75.60

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 29.00 260.80 52.60 5216 1052
    sdb 33.45 283.80 10.00 5676 200
    etherws-ethers 63.20 544.60 62.60 10892 1252

    11/10/2020 01:13:17 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    10.63 0.00 4.82 0.01 0.00 84.53

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 17.95 152.80 3.60 3056 72
    sdb 22.90 192.60 2.80 3852 56
    etherws-ethers 40.80 344.80 5.20 6896 104

    11/10/2020 01:13:37 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    15.66 0.00 4.82 0.02 0.00 79.50

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 29.55 260.60 18.20 5212 364
    sdb 37.45 314.60 10.60 6292 212
    etherws-ethers 67.50 575.20 28.60 11504 572

    11/10/2020 01:13:57 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    7.10 0.00 3.69 0.00 0.00 89.21

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 4.25 33.40 27.60 668 552
    sdb 4.10 31.20 4.40 624 88
    etherws-ethers 8.75 64.60 32.00 1292 640

    11/10/2020 01:14:17 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    14.63 0.00 4.10 0.07 0.00 81.20

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 23.95 207.80 1.20 4156 24
    sdb 29.15 246.00 3.40 4920 68
    etherws-ethers 52.90 453.00 4.20 9060 84

    11/10/2020 01:14:37 PM
    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    11.05 0.00 4.91 0.02 0.00 84.01

    Device tps kB_read/s kB_wrtn/s kB_read kB_wrtn
    sda 26.40 197.40 15.00 3948 300
    sdb 34.20 284.20 8.00 5684 160
    etherws-ethers 60.60 481.60 19.60 9632 392`

    Could you please show us the server specs which you used for the full node?

    Literally just a Kimsufi KS-9 except getting rid of the software RAID for space.The default settings for a full node currently requires 337GB of space. Can't run a bench on it right now because it's literally running obviously but the specs are

    Intel Xeon W3520

    4c/8t
    2.66GHz
    16GB DDR3 ECC 1333 MHz
    SoftRaid
    2x240Go SSD
    100 Mbps

    Works well enough for trading bots, much much faster and way fewer errors than Infura (because Infura, Chainstack, Quiknode, etc all have settings to prevent certain behavior like allowing you to get into a gas price auction to beat someone trying to front-run you) Even with 100 peers the bandwidth isn't bad but the disk write gets intense every time a new block is mined.

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