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US Targeting Chinese Carriers: Expansion of the Clean Network to Safeguard America’s Assets

The Clean Network program is the Trump Administration’s comprehensive approach to guarding our citizens’ privacy and our companies’ most sensitive information from aggressive intrusions by malign actors, such as the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). Today, I am announcing the launch of five new lines of effort to protect America’s critical telecommunications and technology infrastructure.

These programs are rooted in internationally accepted digital trust standards and built upon the 5G Clean Path initiative, announced on April 29, 2020, to secure data traveling on 5G networks into U.S. diplomatic facilities overseas and within the United States.

The five new lines of effort for the Clean Network are as follows:

Clean Carrier: To ensure untrusted People’s Republic of China (PRC) carriers are not connected with U.S. telecommunications networks. Such companies pose a danger to U.S. national security and should not provide international telecommunications services to and from the United States.
Clean Store: To remove untrusted applications from U.S. mobile app stores. PRC apps threaten our privacy, proliferate viruses, and spread propaganda and disinformation. American’s most sensitive personal and business information must be protected on their mobile phones from exploitation and theft for the CCP’s benefit.
Clean Apps: To prevent untrusted PRC smartphone manufacturers from pre-installing –or otherwise making available for download – trusted apps on their apps store. Huawei, an arm of the PRC surveillance state, is trading on the innovations and reputations of leading U.S. and foreign companies. These companies should remove their apps from Huawei’s app store to ensure they are not partnering with a human rights abuser.
Clean Cloud: To prevent U.S. citizens’ most sensitive personal information and our businesses’ most valuable intellectual property, including COVID-19 vaccine research, from being stored and processed on cloud-based systems accessible to our foreign adversaries through companies such as Alibaba, Baidu, and Tencent.
Clean Cable: To ensure the undersea cables connecting our country to the global internet are not subverted for intelligence gathering by the PRC at hyper scale. We will also work with foreign partners to ensure that undersea cables around the world aren’t similarly subject to compromise.
Momentum for the Clean Network program is growing. More than thirty countries and territories are now Clean Countries, and many of the world’s biggest telecommunications companies are Clean Telcos. All have committed to exclusively using trusted vendors in their Clean Networks.

The United States calls on our allies and partners in government and industry around the world to join the growing tide to secure our data from the CCP’s surveillance state and other malign entities. Building a Clean fortress around our citizens’ data will ensure all of our nations’ security.

https://www.state.gov/announcing-the-expansion-of-the-clean-network-to-safeguard-americas-assets/

The US is officially building their own version of the GFW!

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  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member
    edited August 6

    @ehhthing said:

    The Clean Network program is the Trump Administration’s comprehensive approach to guarding our citizens’ privacy and our companies’ most sensitive information from aggressive intrusions by malign actors, such as the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). Today, I am announcing the launch of five new lines of effort to protect America’s critical telecommunications and technology infrastructure.

    These programs are rooted in internationally accepted digital trust standards and built upon the 5G Clean Path initiative, announced on April 29, 2020, to secure data traveling on 5G networks into U.S. diplomatic facilities overseas and within the United States.

    The five new lines of effort for the Clean Network are as follows:

    Clean Carrier: To ensure untrusted People’s Republic of China (PRC) carriers are not connected with U.S. telecommunications networks. Such companies pose a danger to U.S. national security and should not provide international telecommunications services to and from the United States.
    Clean Store: To remove untrusted applications from U.S. mobile app stores. PRC apps threaten our privacy, proliferate viruses, and spread propaganda and disinformation. American’s most sensitive personal and business information must be protected on their mobile phones from exploitation and theft for the CCP’s benefit.
    Clean Apps: To prevent untrusted PRC smartphone manufacturers from pre-installing –or otherwise making available for download – trusted apps on their apps store. Huawei, an arm of the PRC surveillance state, is trading on the innovations and reputations of leading U.S. and foreign companies. These companies should remove their apps from Huawei’s app store to ensure they are not partnering with a human rights abuser.
    Clean Cloud: To prevent U.S. citizens’ most sensitive personal information and our businesses’ most valuable intellectual property, including COVID-19 vaccine research, from being stored and processed on cloud-based systems accessible to our foreign adversaries through companies such as Alibaba, Baidu, and Tencent.
    Clean Cable: To ensure the undersea cables connecting our country to the global internet are not subverted for intelligence gathering by the PRC at hyper scale. We will also work with foreign partners to ensure that undersea cables around the world aren’t similarly subject to compromise.
    Momentum for the Clean Network program is growing. More than thirty countries and territories are now Clean Countries, and many of the world’s biggest telecommunications companies are Clean Telcos. All have committed to exclusively using trusted vendors in their Clean Networks.

    The United States calls on our allies and partners in government and industry around the world to join the growing tide to secure our data from the CCP’s surveillance state and other malign entities. Building a Clean fortress around our citizens’ data will ensure all of our nations’ security.

    https://www.state.gov/announcing-the-expansion-of-the-clean-network-to-safeguard-americas-assets/

    The US is officially building their own version of the GFW!

    Not really.

    This is more like building your own private highway and not allowing the Chinese anywhere near construction.

  • popcorn time. time will tell.

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  • @TimboJones said:

    @ehhthing said:

    The Clean Network program is the Trump Administration’s comprehensive approach to guarding our citizens’ privacy and our companies’ most sensitive information from aggressive intrusions by malign actors, such as the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). Today, I am announcing the launch of five new lines of effort to protect America’s critical telecommunications and technology infrastructure.

    These programs are rooted in internationally accepted digital trust standards and built upon the 5G Clean Path initiative, announced on April 29, 2020, to secure data traveling on 5G networks into U.S. diplomatic facilities overseas and within the United States.

    The five new lines of effort for the Clean Network are as follows:

    Clean Carrier: To ensure untrusted People’s Republic of China (PRC) carriers are not connected with U.S. telecommunications networks. Such companies pose a danger to U.S. national security and should not provide international telecommunications services to and from the United States.
    Clean Store: To remove untrusted applications from U.S. mobile app stores. PRC apps threaten our privacy, proliferate viruses, and spread propaganda and disinformation. American’s most sensitive personal and business information must be protected on their mobile phones from exploitation and theft for the CCP’s benefit.
    Clean Apps: To prevent untrusted PRC smartphone manufacturers from pre-installing –or otherwise making available for download – trusted apps on their apps store. Huawei, an arm of the PRC surveillance state, is trading on the innovations and reputations of leading U.S. and foreign companies. These companies should remove their apps from Huawei’s app store to ensure they are not partnering with a human rights abuser.
    Clean Cloud: To prevent U.S. citizens’ most sensitive personal information and our businesses’ most valuable intellectual property, including COVID-19 vaccine research, from being stored and processed on cloud-based systems accessible to our foreign adversaries through companies such as Alibaba, Baidu, and Tencent.
    Clean Cable: To ensure the undersea cables connecting our country to the global internet are not subverted for intelligence gathering by the PRC at hyper scale. We will also work with foreign partners to ensure that undersea cables around the world aren’t similarly subject to compromise.
    Momentum for the Clean Network program is growing. More than thirty countries and territories are now Clean Countries, and many of the world’s biggest telecommunications companies are Clean Telcos. All have committed to exclusively using trusted vendors in their Clean Networks.

    The United States calls on our allies and partners in government and industry around the world to join the growing tide to secure our data from the CCP’s surveillance state and other malign entities. Building a Clean fortress around our citizens’ data will ensure all of our nations’ security.

    https://www.state.gov/announcing-the-expansion-of-the-clean-network-to-safeguard-americas-assets/

    The US is officially building their own version of the GFW!

    Not really.

    This is more like building your own private highway and not allowing the Chinese anywhere near construction.

    This is effectively doing that though. Like in a conceptual sense, there really isn't much difference. The GFW is just "protecting" a private highway. The internet isn't made to be a private highway. The point is to allow international communication, irrespective of location.

  • rahulksrahulks Member
    edited August 6

    @ehhthing said: This is effectively doing that though. Like in a conceptual sense, there really isn't much difference. The GFW is just "protecting" a private highway. The internet isn't made to be a private highway. The point is to allow international communication, irrespective of location.

    Consider this, Tit for tat for all these years of abuse from the Chinese side.

    At the least, there will be transparency,Unlike on the not so great GFW.

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  • @rahulks said:

    @ehhthing said: This is effectively doing that though. Like in a conceptual sense, there really isn't much difference. The GFW is just "protecting" a private highway. The internet isn't made to be a private highway. The point is to allow international communication, irrespective of location.

    Consider this, Tit for tat for all these years of abuse from the Chinese side.

    At the least, there will be transparency,Unlike on the not so great GFW.

    It's hard to blame China for not having freedom of speech if you are actively blocking their citizens from being able to speak.

  • lentrolentro Member, Provider
    edited August 6

    This is the kind of way China would frame the GFW... Protecting Citizens...

    I don't really support any gov't getting involved in censorship, as then there is the question of where censorship ends.

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  • MikeAMikeA Member, Provider

    @hiphiphip0 said:
    Oh, we are gona need more non-US based hosting, to prevent loss of cable cut.

    Don't worry. Any country can shut down servers in datacenters within their country.

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  • jarjar Provider

    Least we can do as a “thanks for lying about COVID-19.” I’d prefer a swift kick in the nuts to all of their government officials, strong enough to make sure they can’t have kids, but a middle finger will do.

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  • bdlbdl Member

    :)

  • wotetiwoteti Member

    @TimboJones said:

    @ehhthing said:
    The US is officially building their own version of the GFW!

    Not really.

    This is more like building your own private highway and not allowing the Chinese anywhere near construction.

    It kinda is though, and there is nothing wrong with that. Remember that GFW is just a network edge filter that may or may not be used to censor speech.

    Some of the more conservative countries have a GFW lite used to censor porn for example.

    I for one am glad of this development. If several other countries like Russia are outside of this filter, even better. It makes mitigating D/DOS attacks somewhat easier now that the top 2 source countries are outside of the edge filter.

    Will it be the same internet after this...I don't know. But knowing some of the sh*t I've had to deal with over years, the internet is due for some makeover.

  • wotetiwoteti Member

    @jar said:
    Least we can do as a “thanks for lying about COVID-19.” I’d prefer a swift kick in the nuts to all of their government officials, strong enough to make sure they can’t have kids, but a middle finger will do.

    China lied about covid by downplaying its severity. There are those outside of China doing the same, even after knowing all the facts.

    The side that's mad about China for downplaying covid is usually the side that comes to the defense of western figures doing the same thing (usually tilted a certain way politically). There are exceptions of course. Kinda like setting a standard and immediately failing it.

  • This is the US trying to censor the internet, simple as. This also justifys other countries to censor.

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  • jsgjsg Member

    Cute. As usual many confuse "what Americans say China said and did" with "what China really said and did" (or not).

    But don't get me wrong, I'm not at all fighting about/against that "clean network" thingy, actually I find it amusing, although probably quite a bit less amusing than the american reaction to the coming chinese reaction will be.

    AFAIC I'm neither pro nor anti China or USA - I'm pro real fairness and a really same level playing field (which I guess both sides don't offer).

    Thanks no.

  • lowfanlowfan Member

    Don't allow Chinese any where. Chinese government sucks.

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  • defaultdefault Member

    OK. This is the ultimate popcorn drama.

    • corporations want to control the internet (just like Google tries to create psychological profiles, promote search results, and force SSL to increase sales)
    • states want to control internet (GFW, Russia firewall, now USA)
    • secret agencies (NSA, CIA, whatever) want to control internet with trojans forcefully installed on operating system.

    Solution: we need to create a new internet inside this clean internet, and we need to do it fast. VPNs will soon have an end, and Tor Project will soon be blocked by countries blacklisting exit nodes at T1/T2 level.

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  • Soon the world will be divided into two.

  • @default said: VPNs will soon have an end

    VPNs were always a product to help on spying people.

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  • defaultdefault Member
    edited August 6

    @SCAM_DONT_BUY said:

    @default said: VPNs will soon have an end

    VPNs were always a product to help on spying people.

    Let's not go that far. Let's not be that pessimistic. If they would spy us like you insinuate, there would be no need for such laws and firewalls and official attempts to limit internet. VPN protocols are still open source and use open-source encryption, until they decide to fully ban the protocols themselves.

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  • lowfanlowfan Member

    Please have some respect for all those poeple who died from irresponsibility of Chinese government and do not use Chinese providers

  • @lowfan Just for you: I bought my second Huawei product a while ago, and I'm happy with it. ;)

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  • jsgjsg Member

    @SCAM_DONT_BUY said:
    @lowfan Just for you: I bought my second Huawei product a while ago, and I'm happy with it. ;)

    You mass-murder supporter!!!!!!! (calling for the killing of Xi is fine however).

    On a more serious note: Cisco and Juniper seem to have a race who had the sh_ttier code and more security problems while Huawei seems to have far less security problems. But that might also, at least in part, be due to Huawei equipment being less frequently used at least in western countries.

    Thanks no.

  • lowfanlowfan Member

    @SCAM_DONT_BUY said:
    @lowfan Just for you: I bought my second Huawei product a while ago, and I'm happy with it. ;)

    You are Chinese. :)

  • @default said: secret agencies (NSA, CIA, whatever) want to control internet with trojans forcefully installed on operating system.

    Link?

  • lowfanlowfan Member

    I prefer my information goes to CIA , Google what so ever at least US has a little decency not the barbaric Chinese Government. NO and I will fight a good fight all my life against the Chinese. I do not buy Chinese food even for my dog

  • Actually, I was wrong. I have 4 Huawei products right now. Forgot to count a band and a backpack. If anyone wants to spy on me, oh well, go ahead, be it USA or anyone else really. The US bans just made me read more about the products chinese companies offer, and it helped me to find the phone I always wanted. :)

    @lowfan said: You are Chinese.

    This is what you want to believe.

  • defaultdefault Member

    @MatthewM said:

    @default said: secret agencies (NSA, CIA, whatever) want to control internet with trojans forcefully installed on operating system.

    Link?

    Sure. https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/new-german-law-would-force-isps-to-allow-secret-service-to-install-trojans-on-user-devices/

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  • john564john564 Member

    The US is officially building their own version of the GFW!

    More like anti-CCP wall
    Its not to censor the citizens and stop them reading and writing.

  • @default said:

    @MatthewM said:

    @default said: secret agencies (NSA, CIA, whatever) want to control internet with trojans forcefully installed on operating system.

    Link?

    Sure. https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/new-german-law-would-force-isps-to-allow-secret-service-to-install-trojans-on-user-devices/

    NSA, CIA, whatever

  • nature1nature1 Member

    I read somewhere the GFW is simply some high end Huawei cluster routers/security inspection gateways (SIG) that are actually in the West (Equinix San Jose, LA, One Wilshire LA). They filter on US soil because there's latency problems if you filter it in China. It looks like the US gov is stopping ALL US IP transit sales to China? All this will do is for China to increase its IP Transit from Europe via Singapore/Cairo or the low latency trans-Russian route which is more expensive. I thought US intelligence gets a good reading of Chinese internet traffic at the source in California? Damn.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    @nature1 said:
    I read somewhere the GFW is simply some high end Huawei cluster routers/security inspection gateways (SIG) that are actually in the West (Equinix San Jose, LA, One Wilshire LA). They filter on US soil because there's latency problems if you filter it in China. It looks like the US gov is stopping ALL US IP transit sales to China? All this will do is for China to increase its IP Transit from Europe via Singapore/Cairo or the low latency trans-Russian route which is more expensive. I thought US intelligence gets a good reading of Chinese internet traffic at the source in California? Damn.

    Curious what it means for all the providers buying cn2.

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  • jarjar Provider
    edited August 6

    @woteti said:

    @jar said:
    Least we can do as a “thanks for lying about COVID-19.” I’d prefer a swift kick in the nuts to all of their government officials, strong enough to make sure they can’t have kids, but a middle finger will do.

    China lied about covid by downplaying its severity. There are those outside of China doing the same, even after knowing all the facts.

    The side that's mad about China for downplaying covid is usually the side that comes to the defense of western figures doing the same thing (usually tilted a certain way politically). There are exceptions of course. Kinda like setting a standard and immediately failing it.

    True I was a big supporter of the time the US lied about a pandemic that started here as we massively exported the virus. I bought a cheerleading uniform just for the occasion. I sell photos of it on my onlyfans.

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  • TerensMTerensM Member

    @john564 said:

    The US is officially building their own version of the GFW!

    More like anti-CCP wall
    Its not to censor the citizens and stop them reading and writing.

    "Internet censorship is the control or suppression of what can be accessed, published, or viewed on the Internet enacted by regulators, or on their own initiative."

    wikipedia.

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  • defaultdefault Member

    The end is nigh.

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  • wotetiwoteti Member

    @jar said:

    @woteti said:

    @jar said:
    Least we can do as a “thanks for lying about COVID-19.” I’d prefer a swift kick in the nuts to all of their government officials, strong enough to make sure they can’t have kids, but a middle finger will do.

    China lied about covid by downplaying its severity. There are those outside of China doing the same, even after knowing all the facts.

    The side that's mad about China for downplaying covid is usually the side that comes to the defense of western figures doing the same thing (usually tilted a certain way politically). There are exceptions of course. Kinda like setting a standard and immediately failing it.

    True I was a big supporter of the time the US lied about a pandemic that started here as we massively exported the virus. I bought a cheerleading uniform just for the occasion. I sell photos of it on my onlyfans.

    I made no characterization of your support or cheerleading of anything, merely pointing out a general tendency.

    Blaming the origin of the virus is like blaming the gulf of Mexico for exporting hurricanes.

    Individuals within the US and China did downplay the severity of the virus and yes, lied about the pandemic.

    just a flu
    cancer will kill more
    masks don't help
    it's going to disappear
    etc.

    Different levels and flavors of lies maybe, but still lies.

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  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Moderator

    @ehhthing said: It's hard to blame China for not having freedom of speech if you are actively blocking their citizens from being able to speak.

    Hold up...you're blaming the USA for Chinese citizens not having freedom of speech?

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    @john564 said: More like anti-CCP wall

    We need to turn the GFW inside-out and simply wall off China from the rest of the internet.

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  • wotetiwoteti Member

    @nature1 said:
    I read somewhere the GFW is simply some high end Huawei cluster routers/security inspection gateways (SIG) that are actually in the West (Equinix San Jose, LA, One Wilshire LA). They filter on US soil because there's latency problems if you filter it in China. It looks like the US gov is stopping ALL US IP transit sales to China? All this will do is for China to increase its IP Transit from Europe via Singapore/Cairo or the low latency trans-Russian route which is more expensive. I thought US intelligence gets a good reading of Chinese internet traffic at the source in California? Damn.

    Heh, I almost used a colo provider in California with good peering, good price, and all that. Stopped myself from doing that due to hints of ties to Chinese gov in my research.

    Don't know how the new program will be implemented, but can't say no to more transparency.

  • ehhthingehhthing Member
    edited August 6

    @raindog308 said:

    @ehhthing said: It's hard to blame China for not having freedom of speech if you are actively blocking their citizens from being able to speak.

    Hold up...you're blaming the USA for Chinese citizens not having freedom of speech?

    image

    @john564 said: More like anti-CCP wall

    We need to turn the GFW inside-out and simply wall off China from the rest of the internet.

    What I was trying to describe is the fact that the only people this hurts are Chinese netizens that want to be able to talk freely. The CCP would actually prefer if Chinese citizens were blocked from accessing all US run websites because they'd rather have a private internet, hence the GFW. Before, they could not justify lack of access for all foreign websites, but now they do have a reason.

    Of course, Chinese spies and hackers will still be able to access the US because they'll just create tunnels through other countries. Have fun catching that!

  • elliotcelliotc Member

    Cold war2

    Coffee, please.

  • lowfanlowfan Member
    edited August 6

    @SCAM_DONT_BUY said:

    This is what you want to believe.

    Perhaps your wife or some body in your family is chinese :) LOL Lier :) Chinese here Chinese there Chinese every where

  • nature1nature1 Member

    Again all this will do is change the routing of the Chinese carriers primary path via Europe instead of the USA. It will force more China to Russia traffic to go direct (some of it is direct already) and WILL NOT STOP THE HACKERS BECAUSE THEY WILL SIMPLY CHANGE THE ROUTE VIA A VPN!

  • nature1nature1 Member
    edited August 6

    Also the primary reason the Trump administration is doing this is for a stop to the Chinese hacking. Well why doesn't the US government create a national firewall and firewall the traffic with AI!? How about increasing our defenses instead of always complaining of stolen data. Also haven't the Chinese hackers read the Snowden disclosures!? The NSA monitors nearly every IP Transit link on the planet. Nothing is safe from them. I'm surprised Huawei hasn't read the Snowden documents and created a product that is safe from NSA interception.

  • @lowfan said: Perhaps your wife or some body in your family is chinese LOL Lier Chinese here Chinese there Chinese every where

    You better start accepting the truth. :) Looking at your profile you're struggling every single day... I'm sorry for you.

  • @ehhthing said:

    @rahulks said:

    @ehhthing said: This is effectively doing that though. Like in a conceptual sense, there really isn't much difference. The GFW is just "protecting" a private highway. The internet isn't made to be a private highway. The point is to allow international communication, irrespective of location.

    Consider this, Tit for tat for all these years of abuse from the Chinese side.

    At the least, there will be transparency,Unlike on the not so great GFW.

    It's hard to blame China for not having freedom of speech if you are actively blocking their citizens from being able to speak.

    Not sure if language problem or if you're just trolling. What you said is exactly opposite. It should be:

    It's easy to blame China for not having freedom of speech if they are actively blocking their citizens from being able to speak.

  • @nature1 said:
    Also the primary reason the Trump administration is doing this is for a stop to the Chinese hacking. Well why doesn't the US government create a national firewall

    GTFO. The Chinese hacked the US's most sensitive network and accessed the security clearance files. That took considerable State sponsored effort. It wasn't like they left the password at default or skipped Patch Tuesday one too many times.

  • @nature1 said:
    Again all this will do is change the routing of the Chinese carriers primary path via Europe instead of the USA. It will force more China to Russia traffic to go direct (some of it is direct already) and WILL NOT STOP THE HACKERS BECAUSE THEY WILL SIMPLY CHANGE THE ROUTE VIA A VPN!

    Watching the traffic patterns change is useful intelligence when tracking cunts like APT10. Thinking this is useless or pointless tells us you don't know shit.

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  • @jsg said:
    AFAIC I'm neither pro nor anti China or USA - I'm pro real fairness and a really same level playing field (which I guess both sides don't offer).

    Only in your head. When you equate Chinese and US Freedoms as essentially the same, it means you have a personality disorder.

  • fkjfkj Member

    @TimboJones said: When you equate Chinese and US Freedoms as essentially the same, it means you have a personality disorder.

    Indeed, life is the most important freedom at all. The only place in the world outside the war zone where you will likely be killed by a gun, either police or massive shooter is the US.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Moderator

    @fkj said: Indeed, life is the most important freedom at all. The only place in the world outside the war zone where you will likely be killed by a gun, either police or massive shooter is the US.

    That is ridiculously untrue. The US isn't even in the top 10.

    "Only place"...LOL...there are nearly 4,000 people murdered by firearms in India per year, as an example.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

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  • Adam1Adam1 Member

    @SCAM_DONT_BUY said: I bought my second Huawei product a while ago, and I'm happy with it.

    Me too, Matebook X Pro and P30 Pro, both excellent products and I am reassured that the NSA/GCHQ failed to compromise Huawei products.

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