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best trusted storage for backup?

Hello,

I am planning to backup critical data and save it where a provider who can deserve a trust, not a summer project provider or new provider.

The important for me is privacy for my data and stability.

Current options is AWS? or dedicated server?

The amount of storage is around 3-4TB as maximum.

list what do you think?

Thanks in advance.

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  • jbuggiejbuggie Member

    In this day and age, you can't trust anything or anyone. Just plan accordingly. If the data is critical, encrypt it before it leaves your premise. Have redundant back ups. I use BB2 and a couple of storage VPS from different providers.

  • alshahadalshahad Member

    @jbuggie You are correct! You can't trust anyone. But at a least a trusted company better than a 16 years teen adult who run a provider, or a single man provider who can see your whole files all over the night :D

    Already I will consider encryption of the data before uploading. I think about duplicity with gpg key? what do you think? any better solution's ?

  • seriesnseriesn Member, Top Provider

    @alshahad said:
    @jbuggie You are correct! You can't trust anyone. But at a least a trusted company better than a 16 years teen adult who run a provider, or a single man provider who can see your whole files all over the night :D

    I said this in the past, I will say it again, no matter how bored we get, there's always better contents on the internet vs going through random peoples backup/files.

  • I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

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  • bdlbdl Member

    @seriesn said:

    @alshahad said:
    @jbuggie You are correct! You can't trust anyone. But at a least a trusted company better than a 16 years teen adult who run a provider, or a single man provider who can see your whole files all over the night :D

    I said this in the past, I will say it again, no matter how bored we get, there's always better contents on the internet vs going through random peoples backup/files.

    Prove it! (With screenshots to illustrate examples... :wink: )

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  • vimalwarevimalware Member
    edited July 30

    You can't beat gsuite business if you have over 1.8TB.
    8 Eur flat fee per month(single gsuite business ac) lets you upload 4TB easy.

    As I understand almost everyone use the crypt module with Rclone for e2e.
    https://rclone.org/crypt/

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  • SplitIceSplitIce Member, Provider

    @vimalware seconded. 25TB of backups and counting (hourly backups, going back 6 months).

    I also use it for build artifact storage. Especially useful for kernel packages & disk images (77TB and counting).

    I have 5 accounts so that I'm not technically breaking any ToS rules.

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  • @alshahad said:
    Hello,

    I am planning to backup critical data and save it where a provider who can deserve a trust, not a summer project provider or new provider.

    The important for me is privacy for my data and stability.

    Current options is AWS? or dedicated server?

    The amount of storage is around 3-4TB as maximum.

    list what do you think?

    Thanks in advance.

    hetzner,ovh

  • jbuggiejbuggie Member

    I prefer borg back up to a storage VPS, followed by rclone to bb2 and a another storage VPS. Wireguard is used to link all VPS. Encryption is built into borg and rclone.

    Even if the VPS host is trust worthy and not likely to go through my junk, there is a pretty good possibility that he'll get hacked and the hacker could get to my junk.

    Never run a VPS without full disk encryption. Never upload something unencrypted unless you want it public.

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  • GaleejGaleej Member

    I use gsuite, 8tb from hosthatch,1.8tb from wishosting and office365 subscription. Rlcone encrypts everything I have on hetzner ex62 and does daily encrypted sync to all these 3 places. Heard wasabi and b2 is also cheaper but I have already have enough storage servers before I run out of space. I also got some univ gsuite network share for 10$ which I might loose anyday but still the backups are encrypted.

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  • S4_HostingS4_Hosting Member
    edited July 30

    @alshahad said:
    or dedicated server?

    Seems like an extreme way to go, it's not like you are going to be using a lot of processing power.

    VPS with loads of storage, obviously not in the same datacentre as other servers, but preferably not super far away to reduce latency when you are syncing large amounts of data.

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  • appcomqappcomq Member

    I use Hetzner SX62 4 x 10 TB Finland

    best backup server

  • GaleejGaleej Member

    @appcomq said:
    I use Hetzner SX62 4 x 10 TB Finland

    best backup server

    Cost?

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  • YmpkerYmpker Member
    edited July 30

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

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  • m4num4nu Member, Provider
    edited July 30

    Also used Borg for a long time and even built a service to manage and monitor many Borg repos: B)

    https://www.borgbase.com

    All my other client servers are just backed up there. It's encrypted, compressed, deduplicated and append-only.

    Long-term cold storage backups go to B2 or S3 Glacier.

    Simple and secure Borg Backup hosting from $2/month: BorgBase.com

  • GaleejGaleej Member

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    How is the uplod and download speed on 1fichier from DE.

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  • YmpkerYmpker Member
    edited July 30

    @Galeej said:

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    How is the uplod and download speed on 1fichier from DE.

    1Fichier was also 6-7 MB/s for me (currently not subbed anymore since I switched to Koofr for now) :) 1Fichier servers are in France. Have a speedtest yourself: https://1fichier.com/network.html

    Ups, you asked about 1Fichier :D
    Anyway, here's also some feedback about Koofr for those interested:
    It's hosted on Hetzner so for me (Germany) it's pretty fast. When I upload on the web interface with my 25 Mbit/s upload line it's pretty fast usually. I don't monitor the upload speed often though, since it has a Sync folder like GDrive on my PC and just syncs in the background. I upload 500MBish Videos from OBS ever so often. Also quite swiftly.
    Download has also been fast. My Powerline LAN here on 1st floor reaches about 60-70 Mbit/s on Speedtest usually. Download from Koofr showed some 7,8 MB/s when I downloaded a 1.5GB file. Quite happy :)

    Copies from GDrive to Koofr from their Dashboard also work pretty fast.

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  • seriesnseriesn Member, Top Provider

    @bdl said:

    @seriesn said:

    @alshahad said:
    @jbuggie You are correct! You can't trust anyone. But at a least a trusted company better than a 16 years teen adult who run a provider, or a single man provider who can see your whole files all over the night :D

    I said this in the past, I will say it again, no matter how bored we get, there's always better contents on the internet vs going through random peoples backup/files.

    Prove it! (With screenshots to illustrate examples... :wink: )

    No ketchup, just sauce?

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  • asasdasasd Member

    @alshahad said: I am planning to backup critical data and save it where a provider who can deserve a trust, not a summer project provider or new provider.

    If your backup habit allows it, consider the smallest safe deposit box at your bank (usually under $100 annually) in which you can put at least four 3,5" hard drives. You may be able to fit 3-4 terabytes worth of BluRay disks in it.

    @alshahad said: The important for me is privacy for my data and stability.

    • Privacy is guaranteed, your data never has to touch an internet connected computer.
    • Terms of Service and price is stable.
    • Even if you can't pay anymore you can have your drives back. Switching provider is straightforward.
    • Insurance is included.
    • Personal contact and support is included. Access is possible even if you hit your head and have amnesia.
    • At some places, a cup of tea is included.
  • alwyzonalwyzon Member
    edited July 30

    @alshahad said:
    The important for me is privacy for my data and stability.

    Instead of looking for a single provider, you might also want to consider to just go forward with a „trust nobody“-methodology:

    • locally encrypt the content before uploading
    • split the encrypted data and spread it over multiple providers
    • ensure that each slice is always stored at least at the servers of two different providers, but no provider gets all slices
    • optionally, also store a checksum somewhere to be able to detect alterations of backups
    • ideally, use an encryption method which only works with access to the full backup and where decrypting individual slices is not possible

    This ensures that your backups:

    • can‘t be read by any provider (as they are encrypted and no provider even has access to the full backup, given that each only got their slice)
    • it doesn‘t hurt you if one provider suddenly goes out of business (as each slice is stored at least at two providers)
    • the data is safe againast altering by any provider (as you should have at least two copies, you would notice if one got altered + you might also have a checksum to test the data with)

    This way you don‘t even need to trust any provider. However, it might be a bit more expensive than more optimistic solutions.

  • DevilDevil Member

    What is a functional way to encrypt an entire VPS?

    Also, if not technically impossible is it practical? What I mean is - a little bit of performance hamper is fine but not the system becoming downright abysmal.

    Purpose is -- let's say I want to use the VPS for VPN, Seedbox, my own NextCloud, BitWarden server. But if someone else gets access to the disk where that VPN is it's just random data for them (even if that someone is the VPS provider).

    Is there a way to do that? Something like how Mac's FileVault works.

    Currently looking for a very very cheap (preferably 2-3 year pricing), and very very reliable/reputed, and very very low b/w, good CPU/RAM and very low storage KVM/SSD VPS for VPN and some tiny self-hosted apps like calendar, notes etc for strictly personal/individual use (will be very very very low).

  • vimalwarevimalware Member
    edited August 1

    @Devil said:

    @vimalware said:

    What is a functional way to encrypt an entire VPS?
    r. But if someone else gets access to the disk
    Is there a way to do that?

    Yes of course. Just install OS with the debian/netbooot installer iso(called alternate installer on Ubuntu) to setup 'encrypted LVM' (this will be among the listed partitioning options; it creates a LUKS Volume on physical disk and makes an LVM group 'ON-TOP'; logical ext4, swap partitions etc can created on the LVM logical volumes; the defaults it creates should be OK)

    Ubuntu 20.04 may not fully support the debian installer. Although a link to it exists in my bookmarks.

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  • @Devil

    If you took out the 10 "very"'s from your signature, it probably wouldn't take up 4 lines on mobile.

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  • vimalwarevimalware Member
    edited August 1

    Nothing is perfectly secure except a dedi. Technically it is possible for the [email protected] to find your luks keys in ram, but I wouldn't call it a feasible task exactly for 99.9%

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  • rinalarnandorinalarnando Member
    edited August 1

    try G-suite d7pZIR.png

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  • jbuggiejbuggie Member

    @vimalware said:
    Nothing is perfectly secure except a dedi. Technically it is possible for the [email protected] to find your luks keys in ram, but I wouldn't call it a feasible task exactly for 99.9%

    It's actually pretty straight-forward to extract the LUKS master key from VPS memory dump...just a little time consuming. Therefore, it a host/hacker is determined, a fully encrypted VPS could be cracked. It's less likely to be accessed than the plain VPSes with OS pre-installed by the host.

    FWIW, Ubuntu/debian/arch and likes do not create fully encrypted installations. With the typical LVM over LUKS config, the /boot partition is usually plain ext3/4. In this case, it's easier to just inject a trojan into the initrd img to gain access.

    I guess dedicated server/fully encrypted would be a step up in protection. Is it still hack-able by someone with physical access? Probably

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  • I guess dedicated server/fully encrypted would be a step up in protection.

    It's mostly about the data hygiene when you leave the provider or deadpool/disk swap happens.

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  • You can go with cloud storage they provide most trusted backup solution.
    if you want some portable solution then go with
    "Seagate Backup Plus Seagate" is one of the most trusted names in the data storage industry and it does not disappoint with its Backup Plus portable hard drive. Unlike most portable external hard drives, which generally cap out at about 4TB, the Seagate can hold up to 5TB at any given time

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  • ShazanShazan Provider

    @SplitIce said:
    @vimalware seconded. 25TB of backups and counting (hourly backups, going back 6 months).

    Is there a limitation of bandwidth or number of cuncurrent sessions at some point?

    Thanks to both.

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  • chipchip Member

    Hetzner storage box? I've got a 2tb one their I've had for ages and the only problem I've ever had is I occasionally hit the 10 connection limit (normally when I'm trying to upload loads of stuff from my laptop using segmented uploads

    Also b2 cloud storage is pretty cheap (per gb) and also replicated their new buckets are s3 compatible as well.... so in theory any s3 compatible all should work with them

    Chip

  • uzaysanuzaysan Member
    edited August 2

    I'm using B2 BackBlaze. Its one of the cheapest option(0,005$ per GB) in market and has 99.9 SLA.
    Edit: Its also S3 compatible

  • Shh. 😉
    I'm still waiting for.a client to wake up, get to his pc and order the darn thing.

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  • SplitIceSplitIce Member, Provider

    @Shazan Max 750GB upload per account per day.

    No session limit (that I've found).

    I have mine mounted with rclone and write the full xtradb backup (ibdata etc), then download (stream) that to generate a .sql backup on a different server, I also periodically download that (stream) so that automated validation can run. Never had issues with limits.

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  • @SplitIce said:
    @Shazan Max 750GB upload per account per day.

    Also, supposedly 10TB download limit per day.

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  • dosaidosai Member

    @SplitIce said:
    @Shazan Max 750GB upload per account per day.

    No session limit (that I've found).

    I have mine mounted with rclone and write the full xtradb backup (ibdata etc), then download (stream) that to generate a .sql backup on a different server, I also periodically download that (stream) so that automated validation can run. Never had issues with limits.

    Also, Autorclone can by pass 750GB/day limit.

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  • raindog308raindog308 Moderator
    edited August 3

    @uzaysan said: I'm using B2 BackBlaze. Its one of the cheapest option(0,005$ per GB) in market and has 99.9 SLA.

    Edit: Its also S3 compatible

    Me as well, for home backups.

    Only thing I don't like is that on VPS backups, if someone compromises your VPS, it's trivial for them to also nuke your B2 backups. This is a common weakness for all push-based backup schemes.

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  • @raindog308 said: This is a common weakness for all push-based backup schemes.

    The trick is to use append only backups like with Borg. Plus of course snapshots that are immutable.

    Not to say be lax about security, but there are options that can protect one from oneself and inane stupidity is far more probable than something sinister.

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  • ChronicChronic Member
    edited August 3

    @raindog308 said: Only thing I don't like is that on VPS backups, if someone compromises your VPS, it's trivial for them to also nuke your B2 backups. This is a common weakness for all push-based backup schemes.

    Can't you just solve this with file versioning and limited access permissions on the API keys? Can also set up lifecycle rules to trash old versions as necessary, so your bills are not astronomical. Depending on the backup method you're using, it might be that multiple versions are not created during normal operation anyway.

  • raindog308raindog308 Moderator

    @nullnothere said: The trick is to use append only backups like with Borg. Plus of course snapshots that are immutable.

    I really should have said "potential weakness". Yes, there are ways around this. You can setup backups so you can drop off files and then have a system that sweeps them into a place the user can't touch, or give the user write but not delete permission, etc.

    @Chronic said: Can't you just solve this with file versioning and limited access permissions on the API keys? Can also set up lifecycle rules to trash old versions as necessary, so your bills are not astronomical. Depending on the backup method you're using, it might be that multiple versions are not created during normal operation anyway.

    That's a good point - you can grant "deleteBuckets, deleteFiles, deleteKeys, listBuckets, listFiles, listKeys, readFiles, shareFiles, writeBuckets, writeFiles, writeKeys" so presumably removing the delete* permissions would fix this problem. I think I'll give this a try and get out of having to run my own backup servers to backup my VPSes.

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  • SplitIceSplitIce Member, Provider

    @dosai said: Also, Autorclone can by pass 750GB/day limit.

    I'd say poor Google, but lets be honest here... they are making record profits currently.

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  • GaleejGaleej Member

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    I read somewhere that any storage > 2TB would require additional plan for cold storage?

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  • YmpkerYmpker Member

    @Galeej said:

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    I read somewhere that any storage > 2TB would require additional plan for cold storage?

    Yes, more than 2TB cold storage (60+ days) costs extra. Extends to +1€/GB/month. Might be that there is an annual discount for that, too.

  • TejyTejy Member

    @Ympker said:

    @Galeej said:

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    I read somewhere that any storage > 2TB would require additional plan for cold storage?

    Yes, more than 2TB cold storage (60+ days) costs extra. Extends to +1€/GB/month. Might be that there is an annual discount for that, too.

    Scaleway C14 Cold Storage = €2/TB/month ex. traffic

  • YmpkerYmpker Member
    edited August 5

    @Tejy said:

    @Ympker said:

    @Galeej said:

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    I read somewhere that any storage > 2TB would require additional plan for cold storage?

    Yes, more than 2TB cold storage (60+ days) costs extra. Extends to +1€/GB/month. Might be that there is an annual discount for that, too.

    Scaleway C14 Cold Storage = €2/TB/month ex. traffic

    Those here that use more than 2TB probably don't pay the extra 1€/month. You get unlimited "hot storage" (files touched every 59 days), so certain LET members have built scripts to download files via API once ever so often so it still counts as hot storage :)

    This way you only pay the regular premium price.

  • GaleejGaleej Member

    @Ympker said:

    @Tejy said:

    @Ympker said:

    @Galeej said:

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    I read somewhere that any storage > 2TB would require additional plan for cold storage?

    Yes, more than 2TB cold storage (60+ days) costs extra. Extends to +1€/GB/month. Might be that there is an annual discount for that, too.

    Scaleway C14 Cold Storage = €2/TB/month ex. traffic

    Those here that use more than 2TB probably don't pay the extra 1€/month. You get unlimited "hot storage" (files touched every 59 days), so certain LET members have built scripts to download files via API once ever so often so it still counts as hot storage :)

    This way you only pay the regular premium price.

    There is also problem of using it with rclone. There is a rate limit error when using rclone even with the latest beta. I think it's not best suited for several files of smaller size.

    Hosthatch | Hetzner | Nexusbytes| intoVPS | Racknerd($18/Yr - 50GB Shared Hosting) | HostUS | Clouveo | MyW (Lifetime EUR 8)

  • @Galeej said:

    @Ympker said:

    @Tejy said:

    @Ympker said:

    @Galeej said:

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    I read somewhere that any storage > 2TB would require additional plan for cold storage?

    Yes, more than 2TB cold storage (60+ days) costs extra. Extends to +1€/GB/month. Might be that there is an annual discount for that, too.

    Scaleway C14 Cold Storage = €2/TB/month ex. traffic

    Those here that use more than 2TB probably don't pay the extra 1€/month. You get unlimited "hot storage" (files touched every 59 days), so certain LET members have built scripts to download files via API once ever so often so it still counts as hot storage :)

    This way you only pay the regular premium price.

    There is also problem of using it with rclone. There is a rate limit error when using rclone even with the latest beta. I think it's not best suited for several files of smaller size.

    I believe you could use --tpslimit and --tpslimit-burst flag to avoid rate limit.

    | #lexit |

  • GaleejGaleej Member

    @chocolateshirt said:

    @Galeej said:

    @Ympker said:

    @Tejy said:

    @Ympker said:

    @Galeej said:

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    I read somewhere that any storage > 2TB would require additional plan for cold storage?

    Yes, more than 2TB cold storage (60+ days) costs extra. Extends to +1€/GB/month. Might be that there is an annual discount for that, too.

    Scaleway C14 Cold Storage = €2/TB/month ex. traffic

    Those here that use more than 2TB probably don't pay the extra 1€/month. You get unlimited "hot storage" (files touched every 59 days), so certain LET members have built scripts to download files via API once ever so often so it still counts as hot storage :)

    This way you only pay the regular premium price.

    There is also problem of using it with rclone. There is a rate limit error when using rclone even with the latest beta. I think it's not best suited for several files of smaller size.

    I believe you could use --tpslimit and --tpslimit-burst flag to avoid rate limit.

    Did try that but still throws the error.

    Hosthatch | Hetzner | Nexusbytes| intoVPS | Racknerd($18/Yr - 50GB Shared Hosting) | HostUS | Clouveo | MyW (Lifetime EUR 8)

  • @Galeej said:

    @chocolateshirt said:

    @Galeej said:

    @Ympker said:

    @Tejy said:

    @Ympker said:

    @Galeej said:

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    I read somewhere that any storage > 2TB would require additional plan for cold storage?

    Yes, more than 2TB cold storage (60+ days) costs extra. Extends to +1€/GB/month. Might be that there is an annual discount for that, too.

    Scaleway C14 Cold Storage = €2/TB/month ex. traffic

    Those here that use more than 2TB probably don't pay the extra 1€/month. You get unlimited "hot storage" (files touched every 59 days), so certain LET members have built scripts to download files via API once ever so often so it still counts as hot storage :)

    This way you only pay the regular premium price.

    There is also problem of using it with rclone. There is a rate limit error when using rclone even with the latest beta. I think it's not best suited for several files of smaller size.

    I believe you could use --tpslimit and --tpslimit-burst flag to avoid rate limit.

    Did try that but still throws the error.

    May I know what is your tpslimit value?

    | #lexit |

  • YmpkerYmpker Member
    edited August 5

    @Galeej said:

    @Ympker said:

    @Tejy said:

    @Ympker said:

    @Galeej said:

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    @Ympker said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm currently using 1Fichier for backup. Pretty reliable and amazingly cheap, if basic backup and storage is what you need. They are, however, not like S3 or B2 which provide many APIs and functions.

    I think @Ympker is more familiar with these backup storage providers.

    Thanks for the mention!
    1Fichier would definitely be an affordable, solid pickpick :)

    It also comes with some nice API functions, althoufh others have played more with that than I did.

    I read somewhere that any storage > 2TB would require additional plan for cold storage?

    Yes, more than 2TB cold storage (60+ days) costs extra. Extends to +1€/GB/month. Might be that there is an annual discount for that, too.

    Scaleway C14 Cold Storage = €2/TB/month ex. traffic

    Those here that use more than 2TB probably don't pay the extra 1€/month. You get unlimited "hot storage" (files touched every 59 days), so certain LET members have built scripts to download files via API once ever so often so it still counts as hot storage :)

    This way you only pay the regular premium price.

    There is also problem of using it with rclone. There is a rate limit error when using rclone even with the latest beta. I think it's not best suited for several files of smaller size.

    It's certainly not built nor priced to be used what I'd call "comfortably". If I did not have Koofr Lifetime, I'd still have my sub though.

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