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Looking for VPS in Europe supports CN2 GIA (or premium route) to/from China

neockneock Member
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Hi all, I'm looking for a VPS in Europe which provides premium network routing to and from China, CN2 GIA(-E) prefered. VPS invoice payable with back transfer in Euro.

Thank you.

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  • hostworldhostworld Member, Host Rep
    edited May 2020

    @neock said:
    Hi all, I'm looking for a VPS in Europe which provides premium network routing to and from China, CN2 GIA(-E) prefered. VPS invoice payable with back transfer in Euro.

    Thank you.

    What specs you looking for and what’s your budget?

  • neockneock Member

    @hostworld said:

    @neock said:
    Hi all, I'm looking for a VPS in Europe which provides premium network routing to and from China, CN2 GIA(-E) prefered. VPS invoice payable with back transfer in Euro.

    Thank you.

    What specs you looking for and what’s your budget?

    Network port speed 100m plus, traffic 1T would be great. 1c CPU and 1G Mem, 20G+ disc size. Budget somewhere below 20 EUR per month.

  • hostworldhostworld Member, Host Rep
    edited May 2020

    We have servers in the UK and we have many customers from China using our service. Take a look at our LG (Looking Glass) here http://lg.hostworld.uk - you can also test our network from there.

    If everything is okay with the speed test etc our LET Special 1 package should be fine for you:

    LET Special 1

    1GB RAM
    1x vCPU
    20GB Storage
    FREE 60GB Backup Storage
    Unmetered Bandwidth
    Fast 1 Gbps Uplink
    IPv4 & IPv6

    Only £3.69 ($4.61) per month - https://portal.hostworld.uk/cart.php?a=add&pid=69

    Give it a test and let me know how you get on? As above we have many happy customers from China using our VPS service, so it may be suited for you :). If it’s not, there should be providers here who can help - especially as your budget is strong for the specs you require too.

  • neockneock Member

    @hostworld said:
    We have servers in the UK and we have many customers from China using our service. Take a look at our LG (Looking Glass) here http://lg.hostworld.uk - you can also test our network from there.

    If everything is okay with the speed test etc our LET Special 1 package should be fine for you:

    LET Special 1

    1GB RAM
    1x vCPU
    20GB Storage
    FREE 60GB Backup Storage
    Unmetered Bandwidth
    Fast 1 Gbps Uplink
    IPv4 & IPv6

    Only £3.69 ($4.61) per month - https://portal.hostworld.uk/cart.php?a=add&pid=69

    Give it a test and let me know how you get on? As above we have many happy customers from China using our VPS service, so it may be suited for you :). If it’s not, there should be providers here who can help - especially as your budget is strong for the specs you require too.

    Thanks. Tested, traffic was routed to U.S. then China.

    Thanked by 1hostworld
  • bacloudbacloud Member, Patron Provider

    Check our Lithuania http://lg-lt-eu.bacloud.com/ or Netherlands location: http://lg-nl-eu.bacloud.com/

    Ping should go over different way, then USA.

  • hostworldhostworld Member, Host Rep
    edited May 2020

    @neock said:

    @hostworld said:
    We have servers in the UK and we have many customers from China using our service. Take a look at our LG (Looking Glass) here http://lg.hostworld.uk - you can also test our network from there.

    If everything is okay with the speed test etc our LET Special 1 package should be fine for you:

    LET Special 1

    1GB RAM
    1x vCPU
    20GB Storage
    FREE 60GB Backup Storage
    Unmetered Bandwidth
    Fast 1 Gbps Uplink
    IPv4 & IPv6

    Only £3.69 ($4.61) per month - https://portal.hostworld.uk/cart.php?a=add&pid=69

    Give it a test and let me know how you get on? As above we have many happy customers from China using our VPS service, so it may be suited for you :). If it’s not, there should be providers here who can help - especially as your budget is strong for the specs you require too.

    Thanks. Tested, traffic was routed to U.S. then China.

    No worries. Thanks for giving it a test anyway. I’m sure you’ll find someone who can help here.

    Good luck! :)

  • neockneock Member

    @bacloud said:
    Check our Lithuania http://lg-lt-eu.bacloud.com/ or Netherlands location: http://lg-nl-eu.bacloud.com/

    Ping should go over different way, then USA.

    Thank you. Tested but traffic was routed to USA then China.

  • dfroedfroe Member, Host Rep

    Since IP routing tables work with IP addresses and not geographic information, would you mind sharing at least the /24 network of the destination you are testing?

    For example LiteServer (Looking Glass) has a good network mix including peering via Telia in Amsterdam to China Telecom. Of course you cannot tell through which physical cable your packets will go, but at least the next L3 hop after Telia Amsterdam belongs to China Telecom.

    Similiar for First-Root (Looking Glass). Their servers are located in Dusseldorf and routed via Telia Frankfurt to China Telecom. Both are solid providers with good reputation and reliable service.

  • neockneock Member

    @dfroe said:
    Since IP routing tables work with IP addresses and not geographic information, would you mind sharing at least the /24 network of the destination you are testing?

    For example LiteServer (Looking Glass) has a good network mix including peering via Telia in Amsterdam to China Telecom. Of course you cannot tell through which physical cable your packets will go, but at least the next L3 hop after Telia Amsterdam belongs to China Telecom.

    Similiar for First-Root (Looking Glass). Their servers are located in Dusseldorf and routed via Telia Frankfurt to China Telecom. Both are solid providers with good reputation and reliable service.

    Yep, I'm mainly focusing on 183.236.6.0/24 113.66.6.0/24 and 160.20.55.0/24

  • dfroedfroe Member, Host Rep

    @neock said:
    Yep, I'm mainly focusing on 183.236.6.0/24 113.66.6.0/24 and 160.20.55.0/24

    Then feel free to test yourself. ;)

    First one goes through the US but the others are routed via China Telecom in Frankfurt or GTT / HE to Hong Kong when testing from First-Root or LiteServer.

    Sounds like a reasonable mix for me.

  • ehhthingehhthing Member
    edited May 2020

    It looks like prometeus has good routing for your first two requirements.

    http://lg-milano.prometeus.net/

    The third /24 routes via HE.

    If you count Russia as "europe", then you'll have many more options.

    justhost.ru: https://lg-dtln.justhost.ru/ (try cycling through their different looking glass locations in)

    gcore-labs: https://lg.gcore.lu/ (they also have servers in other europian countries, but their best routing to china is in russia)

  • rubenruben Member, Host Rep

    neock said: Yep, I'm mainly focusing on 183.236.6.0/24 113.66.6.0/24 and 160.20.55.0/24

    From our Frankfurt Location, the first one goes over HE to Singapore, the second over Cogent to China Telecom in Amsterdam and the third over HE to Hong Kong.

    Maybe our VPS Frankfurt 1 HDD is a fit for you? :smile:
    1c, 1GB RAM, 25GB HDD, 100Mbit/s fair-use Traffic for CHF 4.50/m (4.25 Euro / 4.60 $)
    ifog.ch/en/server/vps-frankfurt-hdd
    Payment is possible over PayPal, Credit Card or bank transfer.

    Looking glass is available here: lg.fra.fognet.ch

  • bacloudbacloud Member, Patron Provider

    @neock said:

    @bacloud said:
    Check our Lithuania http://lg-lt-eu.bacloud.com/ or Netherlands location: http://lg-nl-eu.bacloud.com/

    Ping should go over different way, then USA.

    Thank you. Tested but traffic was routed to USA then China.

    We have RETN https://retn.net/slider/transkz-the-retn-eurasian-way/
    And we was able to get good ping to Asia from Lithuania location.

    Japan/Tokyo 210
    China/Hangzhou 226
    China/Hong Kong 221
    South Korea/Seoul 219
    Singapore 204
    Thailand/Bangkok 212
    Vietnam/Ho Chi Minh 270
    China/Bejing 193

    But right, there may be issues in routing as one provider can go through RETN, another via USA providers.

  • pbxpbx Member

    Last time I checked netcup (https://www.netcup.eu) had nice CN route. You can check here if it can work for your needs: https://lookingglass.netcup.net/

  • dedipromodedipromo Member

    I believe ZeptoVM had some nice CN2 gt/gia peering in their St. Petersburg location, not sure about now though. You may ask them for a test ip or something.

  • debaserdebaser Member

    @neock said:
    Hi all, I'm looking for a VPS in Europe which provides premium network routing to and from China, CN2 GIA(-E) prefered. VPS invoice payable with back transfer in Euro.

    Hetzner has direct peering with China Mobile, China Telecom goes through Telia directly to CT and the third subnet you shared is routed through Singapore with NTT. Seems to fit the bill.

    CN2 connectivity in Europe is almost nonexistent.

  • neockneock Member

    @debaser said:

    @neock said:
    Hi all, I'm looking for a VPS in Europe which provides premium network routing to and from China, CN2 GIA(-E) prefered. VPS invoice payable with back transfer in Euro.

    Hetzner has direct peering with China Mobile, China Telecom goes through Telia directly to CT and the third subnet you shared is routed through Singapore with NTT. Seems to fit the bill.

    CN2 connectivity in Europe is almost nonexistent.

    Thanks a lot for your recommendation. I have checked Hetzner but 183.236.6.0/24 was unfortunately routed to U.S.

  • neockneock Member

    @dedipromo said:
    I believe ZeptoVM had some nice CN2 gt/gia peering in their St. Petersburg location, not sure about now though. You may ask them for a test ip or something.

    lol, I should have mentioned we prefer VPS data center in Western Europe. We have our company offices in that region. For this we are still using that as a node.

  • neockneock Member

    @pbx said:
    Last time I checked netcup (https://www.netcup.eu) had nice CN route. You can check here if it can work for your needs: https://lookingglass.netcup.net/

    Hello there. 183.236.6.0/24 was unfortunately routed to U.S.

  • neockneock Member

    @bacloud said:

    @neock said:

    @bacloud said:
    Check our Lithuania http://lg-lt-eu.bacloud.com/ or Netherlands location: http://lg-nl-eu.bacloud.com/

    Ping should go over different way, then USA.

    Thank you. Tested but traffic was routed to USA then China.

    We have RETN https://retn.net/slider/transkz-the-retn-eurasian-way/
    And we was able to get good ping to Asia from Lithuania location.

    Japan/Tokyo 210
    China/Hangzhou 226
    China/Hong Kong 221
    South Korea/Seoul 219
    Singapore 204
    Thailand/Bangkok 212
    Vietnam/Ho Chi Minh 270
    China/Bejing 193

    But right, there may be issues in routing as one provider can go through RETN, another via USA providers.

    Thank you. 183.236.6.0/24 is one of our highly focusing network, however it was unfortunately routed to U.S.

  • neockneock Member

    @ruben said:

    neock said: Yep, I'm mainly focusing on 183.236.6.0/24 113.66.6.0/24 and 160.20.55.0/24

    From our Frankfurt Location, the first one goes over HE to Singapore, the second over Cogent to China Telecom in Amsterdam and the third over HE to Hong Kong.

    Maybe our VPS Frankfurt 1 HDD is a fit for you? :smile:
    1c, 1GB RAM, 25GB HDD, 100Mbit/s fair-use Traffic for CHF 4.50/m (4.25 Euro / 4.60 $)
    ifog.ch/en/server/vps-frankfurt-hdd
    Payment is possible over PayPal, Credit Card or bank transfer.

    Looking glass is available here: lg.fra.fognet.ch

    Thanks Ruben, but we are looking for a premium network route to 183.236.6.0/24.

  • neockneock Member

    @ehhthing said:
    It looks like prometeus has good routing for your first two requirements.

    http://lg-milano.prometeus.net/

    The third /24 routes via HE.

    If you count Russia as "europe", then you'll have many more options.

    justhost.ru: https://lg-dtln.justhost.ru/ (try cycling through their different looking glass locations in)

    gcore-labs: https://lg.gcore.lu/ (they also have servers in other europian countries, but their best routing to china is in russia)

    I should have mentioned western Europe for prefered location, we have some offices here and would also like to be benefited from the VPS for other services. Milano is fine but the latency to 183.236.6.0/24 was unfortunately not acceptable.

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    What do you expect a "premium route" to be?
    Is paying via SEPA in euros an absolute requirement?

    • From Eastern Europe you'll probably get a little south of 200 ms, but no guarantees about connectivity mid-term.
    • In the Asian part of Russia, you could do better with some specific providers.
    • If you host in Asia (JP/SG) instead of Europe, connectivity to Europe can still be quite good, consider that.
    Thanked by 1pbx
  • AlexBarakovAlexBarakov Patron Provider, Veteran

    You can check lgbg.alphavps.bg - by the looks of it, we're around 200ms away from 183.236.6.0/24

  • dfroedfroe Member, Host Rep

    @neock said:
    but we are looking for a premium network route to 183.236.6.0/24.

    You should probably tell us more precisely, what exactly makes a route "premium" according to your definition. :) Least ASNs, RTT, packet loss, etc.

    From my point of view the best I can see for 183.236.6.0/24 is handing the packets over to some Chinese carrier in Frankfurt and let them travel down to China from there, resulting in about 200 ms RTT. Similiar for 113.66.6.0/24 and even slightly quicker for 160.20.55.0/24 via HE.

    HOST: xxxx.it-df.net              Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1. AS39083  gw1.it-df.net        0.0%     1    2.2   2.2   2.2   2.2   0.0
  2. AS???    ???                 100.0     1    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
  3. AS4134   81.173.22.45         0.0%     1    4.2   4.2   4.2   4.2   0.0
  4. AS4134   202.97.58.57         0.0%     1  214.9 214.9 214.9 214.9   0.0
  5. AS4134   202.97.12.10         0.0%     1  192.4 192.4 192.4 192.4   0.0
  6. AS4134   202.97.94.129        0.0%     1  223.4 223.4 223.4 223.4   0.0
  7. AS???    ???                 100.0     1    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
  8. AS9808   221.183.30.73        0.0%     1  203.8 203.8 203.8 203.8   0.0
  9. AS9808   221.176.24.1         0.0%     1  204.0 204.0 204.0 204.0   0.0
 10. AS9808   221.183.27.2         0.0%     1  206.0 206.0 206.0 206.0   0.0
 11. AS???    ???                 100.0     1    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
 12. AS56040  211.136.207.18       0.0%     1  206.4 206.4 206.4 206.4   0.0
 13. AS56040  183.233.50.186       0.0%     1  208.5 208.5 208.5 208.5   0.0
 14. AS9808   183.236.6.1          0.0%     1  209.5 209.5 209.5 209.5   0.0

HOST: xxxx.it-df.net              Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1. AS39083  gw1.it-df.net        0.0%     1    2.3   2.3   2.3   2.3   0.0
  2. AS???    ???                 100.0     1    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
  3. AS4134   81.173.22.45         0.0%     1    4.7   4.7   4.7   4.7   0.0
  4. AS4134   202.97.58.57         0.0%     1  214.8 214.8 214.8 214.8   0.0
  5. AS4134   202.97.91.146        0.0%     1  199.2 199.2 199.2 199.2   0.0
  6. AS4134   202.97.90.205        0.0%     1  205.5 205.5 205.5 205.5   0.0
  7. AS4134   121.8.109.82         0.0%     1  191.6 191.6 191.6 191.6   0.0
  8. AS4134   183.56.34.18         0.0%     1  201.7 201.7 201.7 201.7   0.0
  9. AS4134   113.66.6.254         0.0%     1  201.6 201.6 201.6 201.6   0.0

HOST: xxxx.it-df.net              Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1. AS39083  gw1.it-df.net        0.0%     1    2.4   2.4   2.4   2.4   0.0
  2. AS???    ???                 100.0     1    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
  3. AS???    91.206.52.170        0.0%     1    8.3   8.3   8.3   8.3   0.0
  4. AS6939   184.104.193.134      0.0%     1   13.0  13.0  13.0  13.0   0.0
  5. AS6939   184.104.193.125      0.0%     1   20.4  20.4  20.4  20.4   0.0
  6. AS6939   184.105.65.13        0.0%     1  153.3 153.3 153.3 153.3   0.0
  7. AS6939   184.105.222.101      0.0%     1  184.0 184.0 184.0 184.0   0.0
  8. AS58411  160.20.55.1          0.0%     1  182.0 182.0 182.0 182.0   0.0
    Thanked by 1pbx
  • debaserdebaser Member

    @neock said:

    @debaser said:

    @neock said:
    Hi all, I'm looking for a VPS in Europe which provides premium network routing to and from China, CN2 GIA(-E) prefered. VPS invoice payable with back transfer in Euro.

    Hetzner has direct peering with China Mobile, China Telecom goes through Telia directly to CT and the third subnet you shared is routed through Singapore with NTT. Seems to fit the bill.

    CN2 connectivity in Europe is almost nonexistent.

    Thanks a lot for your recommendation. I have checked Hetzner but 183.236.6.0/24 was unfortunately routed to U.S.

    This is however what China Mobile does, Hetzner hands over the connection to China Mobile in Frankfurt. China Mobile apparently routes it through the US.

    It probably won’t get better than such a direct connection, as routing via transit seems to go through the US as well. It’s probably just how they designed their network.

    Thanked by 1pbx
  • zhujiwikizhujiwiki Member

    AkkoCloud SaltyfishTech have Germany cn2 gia.

  • ehhthingehhthing Member

    You can also try AWS lightsail.

  • dedipromodedipromo Member
    edited May 2020

    If CN2-GIA is not a strict requirement, you can also try dediserve.com. Their Vienna location has direct peering with China through Anexia (and they used to have CN2-GT but not any more now). Check the routing map below.

    EDIT: LG: http://speedtest.c1.vie1.dediserve.com/

  • NDTNNDTN Member, Patron Provider, Top Host

    You can take a look at our SSDPromo-1 here, 4GB RAM VPS in Amsterdam, NL for only $6/mo: https://greenkvm.com
    Test IP/file can be found here: https://greencloudvps.com/data-centers/amsterdam-data-center.php
    We use YISP in Amsterdam which has peering with China Telecom and China Mobile.

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