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If you are saturating 1G port serving customers, what are the next step(s) to serve more?

edited May 20 in General

If you are saturating 1G port serving customers (for example a web site), what are the next step(s) to get beyond this 1G limit?

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

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  • edited May 20

    @deank said:
    Offer unsustainable 3 year plans on LET; Grab the cash.

    Write a nice apology email about closing down.

    Close down.

    Give it few weeks.

    Begin a new host. Claim that you had nothing to do with former company.

    Rinse and repeat. Works for most of hosts on LET.

    Not sure what are you talking about.
    I am referring to serving normal web browsing customers.
    How to get beyond 1G network port limitation?

  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    @greattomeetyou said:
    If you are saturating 1G port serving customers (for example a web site), what are the next step(s) to get beyond this 1G limit?

    Try to distribute the load to multiple servers, make good use of CDN to cache the static files.

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    @greattomeetyou said:
    Not sure what are you talking about.
    I am referring to serving normal web browsing customers.
    How to get beyond 1G network port limitation?

    You grew too big. Time to restart is my idea.

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  • edited May 20

    @FAT32 said:

    @greattomeetyou said:
    If you are saturating 1G port serving customers (for example a web site), what are the next step(s) to get beyond this 1G limit?

    Try to distribute the load to multiple servers, make good use of CDN to cache the static files.

    This is what I don't get, if you have a load balancer, doesn't that load balancer has this 1G limitation too?

    When you load balance, doesn't the return traffic go through the load balancer too? It still has this 1G limitation.

    What if CDN can not be used in this situation?

  • WSCallumWSCallum Member, Provider

    10G port?

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  • @WSCallum said:
    10G port?

    Great, you upgraded to 10G, what if this 10G is exceeded now. How to get around this network port hardware limitation?

  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire
    edited May 20

    @greattomeetyou said:
    This is what I don't get, if you have a load balancer, doesn't that load balancer has this 1G limitation too?

    When you load balance, doesn't the return traffic go through the load balancer too? It still has this 1G limitation.

    It depends on what you are trying to achieve. But the easy way to solve it is route the assets to different subdomain at your application layer. For example, server1.domain.com for all IPs within 0.0.0.0/3, server2.domain.com for all IPs within 32.0.0.0/3, etc.

    The more complicated way (and usually requires more costs) will need to get the load balancing services from the provider (they have their hardwares to support), which can redirect the large amount of traffic to your servers.


    It is also possible to do load balancing via DNS level, basically returning the IP address based on certain criteria (location of the IP, available resources on the server, etc etc).

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  • WSCallumWSCallum Member, Provider

    @greattomeetyou said:

    @WSCallum said:
    10G port?

    Great, you upgraded to 10G, what if this 10G is exceeded now. How to get around this network port hardware limitation?

    These are all just theories realistically. It entirely depends on what website you host, what content you serve and so on. As others have mentioned you'd be looking at load balancing (and no a load balancer wouldn't have a 1G port limitation). Do you think the likes of Facebook, Google, YouTube etc hit their 10G port limitation and then threw in the towel and didn't do anymore? There are endless possibilites as to what you can do and how you can serve content.

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  • edited May 20

    @WSCallum said:

    @greattomeetyou said:

    @WSCallum said:
    10G port?

    Great, you upgraded to 10G, what if this 10G is exceeded now. How to get around this network port hardware limitation?

    These are all just theories realistically. It entirely depends on what website you host, what content you serve and so on. As others have mentioned you'd be looking at load balancing (and no a load balancer wouldn't have a 1G port limitation). Do you think the likes of Facebook, Google, YouTube etc hit their 10G port limitation and then threw in the towel and didn't do anymore? There are endless possibilites as to what you can do and how you can serve content.

    no a load balancer wouldn't have a 1G port limitation, but it still has hardware limitation, right? I don't know, I am just curious.

    So what are those options on getting around the 10G port limitation?

  • dedipromodedipromo Member

    This happens frequently to those streaming sites. Usually they use a CDN or even multiple CDN to deliver their content. Some websites also use P2P techniques, which greatly reduces bandwidth usage.

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  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Provider

    @greattomeetyou said:

    @WSCallum said:

    @greattomeetyou said:

    @WSCallum said:
    10G port?

    Great, you upgraded to 10G, what if this 10G is exceeded now. How to get around this network port hardware limitation?

    These are all just theories realistically. It entirely depends on what website you host, what content you serve and so on. As others have mentioned you'd be looking at load balancing (and no a load balancer wouldn't have a 1G port limitation). Do you think the likes of Facebook, Google, YouTube etc hit their 10G port limitation and then threw in the towel and didn't do anymore? There are endless possibilites as to what you can do and how you can serve content.

    So what are those options on getting around the 10G port limitation?

    Multiple 10G or 40G , or 100G port.

    Or multiple servers.

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  • mrclownmrclown Member

    @greattomeetyou

    Try to understand different way of scaling up

    • vertical scaling (increasing port to 10G, upgrade server hw,network, etc)
    • horizontal scaling (distribute the load among multiple servers, host or locations)

    If you see bottleneck on vertical scaling regardless of what you are doing, go for horizontal which is most preferred way nowadays unless your application or site is so sensitive and legacy thus can't spread out into multiple pieces.

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  • seriesnseriesn Member, Provider

    @greattomeetyou said:
    If you are saturating 1G port serving customers (for example a web site), what are the next step(s) to get beyond this 1G limit?

    If you max out your port, you need bigger port. No other work around.

    Imagine the port being a water pipe. The bigger the pipe, the more water you are able to push out.

  • pbxpbx Member

    If it's static stuff, add more servers in round robin.

  • BharatBBharatB Member, Provider

    @greattomeetyou said:
    If you are saturating 1G port serving customers (for example a web site), what are the next step(s) to get beyond this 1G limit?

    This is what we would do

    1) Make sure IP(s) are in a vLAN config and add another server to the same vLAN, Push non-uptime critical clients data over private network to the new server and power off and power on of the new node

    2) Request port upgrade to 2G or 2 x 1G and make a new bridge and move few vms off onto the new bridge.

    Now if you're exceeding all this, I would consider a long term option like prepping an Infiband SAN and connecting multiple computes.

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  • yokowasisyokowasis Member
    edited May 20

    @greattomeetyou said:

    @FAT32 said:

    @greattomeetyou said:
    If you are saturating 1G port serving customers (for example a web site), what are the next step(s) to get beyond this 1G limit?

    Try to distribute the load to multiple servers, make good use of CDN to cache the static files.

    This is what I don't get, if you have a load balancer, doesn't that load balancer has this 1G limitation too?

    When you load balance, doesn't the return traffic go through the load balancer too? It still has this 1G limitation.

    What if CDN can not be used in this situation?

    He means the load balancer on a DNS level. It will send people to various server / provider round Robin styles. The same as Google or Facebook. You will get different server / ip each time you use them compared to me. So if you saturated 1GB Port, then just add another 1 GB port, and then another one, and another one.

    Also, don't feed the troll.

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  • PwnerPwner Member

    @greattomeetyou said:

    @WSCallum said:
    10G port?

    Great, you upgraded to 10G, what if this 10G is exceeded now. How to get around this network port hardware limitation?

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  • Mr_TomMr_Tom Member, Provider

    seriesn said: Imagine the port being a water pipe

    Like a series of tubes?

  • PulsedMediaPulsedMedia Member, Provider

    You either scale horizontal or vertical.

    Meaning, you beef up the server with higher speed port OR you add more servers.
    Like others have said.

  • imokimok Member

    @Mr_Tom said:

    seriesn said: Imagine the port being a water pipe

    Like a series of tubes?

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Peruvian sewerage pipes.

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  • HostSlickHostSlick Member, Provider

    I have idea :
    Plug cable out till no more traffic
    Then plug it back in

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    Is this question serious though?

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  • JordJord Moderator, Provider

    @Mr_Tom said:

    seriesn said: Imagine the port being a water pipe

    Like a series of tubes?

    Hey its not about the size of tube, it's how you use the tube...

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    2) DNS load balancing
    3) BGP load balancing

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  • LTnigerLTniger Member

    Just amazon. That's it. Ou, wait, the money is the factor here? Than multiple servers.

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  • SplitIceSplitIce Member, Provider

    re-enable gzip.

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  • DiamondzDiamondz Member
    edited May 21

    @Jord said
    Hey its not about the size of tube, it's how you use the tube...

    And lots of lube

  • JordJord Moderator, Provider

    @Diamondz said:

    @Jord said
    Hey its not about the size of tube, it's how you use the tube...

    And lots of lube

    Whatever floats your boat sir...

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  • illyhostingillyhosting Member, Provider

    High availability servers cluster and dns round robin load balancing will do the job.

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