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Why Cloudflare...!!!

Shahriar24Shahriar24 Member
edited April 2020 in Help

I want to add cloudflare plugin to my cpanel but it requires a host Api key.I requested host Api key so many time but they didn't reply.

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  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    The question would be, why do you even want to use that shit.

  • You'll need to apply to become a "partner" at https://www.cloudflare.com/partners/

  • ViridWebViridWeb Member, Host Rep

    @Shahriar24 said:
    I want to add cloudflare plugin to my cpanel but it requires a host Api key.I requested host Api key so many time but they didn't reply.

    You have to apply to their partner program

    Note: They only accept partners for their "Enterprise" products. "Free/Pro/Business" not allows anymore.

    Thanked by 1truweb
  • I'm in the same situation. I want to make available to my customers Railgun™

  • @Shahriar24 @truweb Have you submitted tickets to cloudflare or gone to the community at cloudflare seeking help? What was their reply?

  • I ditched cloudflare for fluxcdn. Never looked back.

    Thanked by 1zhsso
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @marvel said:
    I ditched cloudflare for fluxcdn. Never looked back.

    What makes it better?

    We use cloud flare here on leb and let and have found it generally good.

  • LeviLevi Member
    edited April 2020

    @jbiloh said:

    @marvel said:
    I ditched cloudflare for fluxcdn. Never looked back.

    What makes it better?

    We use cloud flare here on leb and let and have found it generally good.

    They are joke. CDN provider who can't take care of his own domain:

    https://fluxcdn.com - OK
    https://www.fluxcdn.com - FAIL

    Inability to handle CNAME's properly - signalizing of trouble non-the-less.

    Thanked by 2maverickp truweb
  • @LTniger said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @marvel said:
    I ditched cloudflare for fluxcdn. Never looked back.

    What makes it better?

    We use cloud flare here on leb and let and have found it generally good.

    They are joke. CDN provider who can't take care of his own domain:

    https://fluxcdn.com - OK
    https://www.fluxcdn.com - FAIL

    Inability to handle CNAME's properly - signalizing of trouble non-the-less.

    Didn't see that, but if they can't get such a simple thing then cloudflare is clearly superior.

  • WebProjectWebProject Host Rep, Veteran

    @LTniger said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @marvel said:
    I ditched cloudflare for fluxcdn. Never looked back.

    What makes it better?

    We use cloud flare here on leb and let and have found it generally good.

    They are joke. CDN provider who can't take care of his own domain:

    https://fluxcdn.com - OK
    https://www.fluxcdn.com - FAIL

    Inability to handle CNAME's properly - signalizing of trouble non-the-less.

    complicated for some and their admin will change millions for such complicated task 😂

  • @LTniger said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @marvel said:
    I ditched cloudflare for fluxcdn. Never looked back.

    What makes it better?

    We use cloud flare here on leb and let and have found it generally good.

    They are joke. CDN provider who can't take care of his own domain:

    https://fluxcdn.com - OK
    https://www.fluxcdn.com - FAIL

    Inability to handle CNAME's properly - signalizing of trouble non-the-less.

    Dear LTniger,

    Thanks for the feedback.

    We are a DDoS mitigation service that is expanding as a CDN.

    Based on it, we have added the www. record to our main domain.

    We are not here to compete with Cloudflare, but provide a simple solution to mitigate attacks to our customers.

    Allow me to to say that we listen to external opinions and we improve our service based on that. As we are in beta and not in a mature state, there might be some development to do on our side.

    If you have any more questions regarding our products, leave me a quote.

    Best regards.

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited April 2020

    Their protection is actually mitigating some of the attacks that bypassed cloudflare's mitigation and thus taking the website offline. As for their billing and subdomains.. Ehhh..

    Billing is hardcoded into protugese VAT for some reason, and subdomains have to be added manually via ticket lol.

    The main thing is though, that the website stays up now even when under attack. I don't care about rest.

    Thanked by 2fluxcdn MikePT
  • stefeman said: Billing is hardcoded into protugese VAT for some reason, and subdomains have to be added manually via ticket lol.

    Thanks for the feedback. Our dashboard is still in beta and we plan to have a more simple solution for subdomains and take in account the customer billing data.

  • I am using fluxcdn for quite a while now, its simple to use and quite effective in performance actually. I also believe there is a lot of scope to expand and they are doing day by day. Welcome @fluxcdn to LET! ;)

    Thanked by 1fluxcdn
  • xaocxaoc Member

    So fluxcdn has a cPanel plugin that @OP can use?

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  • @xaoc said:
    So fluxcdn has a cPanel plugin that @OP can use?

    Unfortunately not.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @xaoc said:
    So fluxcdn has a cPanel plugin that @OP can use?

    Why do you need a fucking cPanel plugin for a CDN?
    You just change the resource urls you wanna get delivered by the CDN.

    e.g mypornsite.com/style.css to cdn.mypornsite.com/style.css
    and point a CNAME to the CDN

    Thanked by 1marvel
  • JordJord Moderator, Host Rep

    BunnyCDN prem

  • @Jord said:
    BunnyCDN prem

    Cpanel plugin available?

  • JordJord Moderator, Host Rep

    @Shahriar24 said:

    @Jord said:
    BunnyCDN prem

    Cpanel plugin available?

    Not as far as I know

  • xaocxaoc Member

    @Neoon said:

    @xaoc said:
    So fluxcdn has a cPanel plugin that @OP can use?

    Why do you need a fucking cPanel plugin for a CDN?
    You just change the resource urls you wanna get delivered by the CDN.

    e.g mypornsite.com/style.css to cdn.mypornsite.com/style.css
    and point a CNAME to the CDN

    I sense some hostility towards cPanel. :D

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @xaoc said:

    @Neoon said:

    @xaoc said:
    So fluxcdn has a cPanel plugin that @OP can use?

    Why do you need a fucking cPanel plugin for a CDN?
    You just change the resource urls you wanna get delivered by the CDN.

    e.g mypornsite.com/style.css to cdn.mypornsite.com/style.css
    and point a CNAME to the CDN

    I sense some hostility towards cPanel. :D

    That was not my point but yes fuck shared hosting.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited April 2020

    @fluxcdn

    Sorry but I don't see your service taking off. BunnyCDN has more POPs, more granular pricing (and not more expensive than you), and a well earned good reputation as an established CDN.

    Don't get me wrong, I like it when a new CDN becomes available, especially a european one, but I don't see why one should chose you instead of Bunny CDN.

    Being smaller and largely unknown, and having fewer POPs you either need to provide something the competition can't/doesn't or you must be cheaper.

    Thanked by 1fluxcdn
  • @jsg said:
    @fluxcdn

    Sorry but I don't see your service taking off. BunnyCDN has more POPs, more granular pricing (and not more expensive than you), and a well earned good reputation as an established CDN.

    Don't get me wrong, I like it when a new CDN becomes available, especially a european one, but I don't see why one should chose you instead of Bunny CDN.

    Being smaller and largely unknown, and having fewer POPs you either need to provide something the competition can't/doesn't or you must be cheaper.

    Thanks for the insight. We are focused on DDoS mitigation and have a dedicated team to understand how new threats behave, blocking them effectively.

    We do mainly block threats and currently planning other features to be more competitive.

    Looking to expand our network and currently waiting on new servers for the next month. (Asia, North America and Europe)

    As we need to absolve a large amount of DDoS attacks per POP, investments are heavy on
    the baremetals we have deployed arround the world.

    Appreciate your comment!

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @fluxcdn said:
    Thanks for the insight. We are focused on DDoS mitigation and have a dedicated team to understand how new threats behave, blocking them effectively.

    We do mainly block threats and currently planning other features to be more competitive.

    Looking to expand our network and currently waiting on new servers for the next month. (Asia, North America and Europe)

    As we need to absolve a large amount of DDoS attacks per POP, investments are heavy on
    the baremetals we have deployed arround the world.

    Appreciate your comment!

    I stand by my comment. Reasons: (a) you have "CDN" in your name and most potential clients will not understand the advantage you presumably have over BunnyCDN, (b) you rely on the (only partially true) assumption that CDN and Anti-DDOS are different things, and (c) you are still quite unknown.

    Again, don't get me wrong, but 90+% of potential customers think - and expect - that a CDN also somehow protects them from at least small and mid-size attacks plus, and worse for you, the unknown player with presumably not millions of $ for marketing, must explain something that is hard to understand for most clients.

    And btw, how well are you protected, in particular your client panel/interface? Because running an Anti-DDOS service will make you a significant target and something hacked together in PHP or Ruby won't cut it.

  • pbxpbx Member
    edited April 2020

    @jsg Honestly there is no need for too many POPs: better some well connected POPs than a lot of POPs where your files won't necessarily be stored and this will end up being a MISS and fetch to the origin, don't you think? IMO 1 POP in AU is enough for example. Sure in this example some places are clearly lacking, but adding just a few more POPs (SG / KH or JP and SA?) would probably be enough for good results all around the world. BTW @fluxcdn using CF for your own DSN doesn't look very professional, and your website doesn't give much information on the service you provide and how it does work...

    Thanked by 1jsg
  • eva2000eva2000 Veteran
    edited April 2020

    jsg said: Sorry but I don't see your service taking off. BunnyCDN has more POPs, more granular pricing (and not more expensive than you), and a well earned good reputation as an established CDN.

    What's truly interesting is that in this world, no one knows or understands everything. It's why companies or for profit individuals can make money usually - by knowing just that bit extra more than the folks they're marketing and selling to. Sure there's value added offerings to differentiate. But then those companies wouldn't be targeting those who know that bit extra to differentiate services :)

    • Why companies can make money making hand sanitizer or face masks when folks could make their own ?
    • Why do some companies still offer and sell aging Android mobile/tablet devices knowing they only have less than 1 yr of security updates or if they already are EOL for security updates and still have customers buying them ?
    • Why would some folks pay 10-20x times more for managed servers when they can go unmanaged ? Or why would someone choose one managed server web host over another managed server web host ?
    • Why would someone choose one web host over another if the price of their VPS servers are the same (but underlying hardware can differ) ?
    • Why do web hosts who offer aging old Xeon processors at prices close to new Xeons are still marketing/selling and making a living ?
    • Why would someone choose to pay for a CDN over choosing Cloudflare that offers CDN for free ?
    • Why do folks continue to use Zoom for video chats knowing all the security issues it has etc ?

    As customers, we choose what we choose based on what we know (or don't know/understand) and that isn't necessarily the optimal choice :D

    I'd imagine the global and regional specific CDN markets are very big - enough room for alot of folks to make a living even if they aren't the best right now. Remember when cdn77 and keycdn and even bunnycdn came to market when they were unknown at the beginning ?

    Not taking sides, just giving my AUD$0.02 :)

    Thanked by 2gazmull jsg
  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited April 2020

    jsg, did you even read? Because its currently the only one out of all we tested from sucuri, cloudflare and etc to protect our badly optimized xenforo forums and sourcebans page from being down 24/7 all the time.

    Maybe bunnyCDN can do that too, but the bandwidth costs would cost us an organ or two alone cause of the amount of traffic the website eats when its under attack.

    Thanked by 1gazmull
  • stefeman said: jsg, did you even read? Because its currently the only one out of all we tested from sucuri, cloudflare and etc to protect our badly optimized xenforo forums and sourcebans page from being down 24/7 all the time.

    Cloudflare can protect for Xenforo forums as well just needs more manual setup for layer 7 attacks via CF Firewall Rules and tweaking CF WAF. And Xenforo is far from badly optimized itself.

  • If you are concern with security and privacy, you should never use CDN especially for JavaScript and such.... unless you trust the CDN provider and you are on a dedicated IP. We tested Cloudflare years ago and found some security issue so we ditched it.

    Thanked by 1jsg
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