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    hostdoc is closing

    one month after they will shutdown the hosting.
    Hmm I just moved my blog to them two months ago.
    so what's the good alternative to them?
    I want a fast network to china, 1g kvm, about 25 usd per year.

    thanks for any suggestion.

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    • donkodonko Member

      breaking news

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    • Managed hosting? 😅

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    • @spywork said:
      Managed hosting? 😅

      That may get you banned :smiley:

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    • bdlbdl Member

      @jpeng said:
      one month after they will shutdown the hosting.
      Hmm I just moved my blog to them two months ago.
      so what's the good alternative to them?
      I want a fast network to china, 1g kvm, about 25 usd per year.

      thanks for any suggestion.

      I recommend a VPS.

    • If you increase budget, you can go for LA with @seriesn or Utah @Delong or SG @MikeA.

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    • @vyas11 said:

      @spywork said:
      Managed hosting? 😅

      That may get you banned :smiley:

      Damn, I think now it's a meme. Sorry! 😅

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    • 4d4m4d4m Member

      Any idea if they're planning to do a liquidation sale on VPS? Hoping to get a few good deals before they close.

    • ouvounouvoun Member
      edited February 4

      @4d4m said:
      Any idea if they're planning to do a liquidation sale on VPS? Hoping to get a few good deals before they close.

      Ah yes the classic trick of throwing cash into the fire to see if it’ll burn.

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    • @4d4m said:
      Any idea if they're planning to do a liquidation sale on VPS? Hoping to get a few good deals before they close.

      You mean hardware liquidation? I am not sure if Doc actually owned any hardware.

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    • Congrats

    • @4d4m said:
      Any idea if they're planning to do a liquidation sale on VPS? Hoping to get a few good deals before they close.

      I'm choosing to believe this to be a hilarious joke.

      Congrats on your first post.

    • ClouviderClouvider Member, Provider
      edited February 5

      merge of the two threads?

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    • @Clouvider said:
      merge of the two threads?

      Frankly, this thread is useless. I would just close it.

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    • The question that baffles me is ...

      What is grammatically correct? Two threads have two different forms...

      "Service Provider X" Is Closing

      Or

      "Service Provider X" Are Closing


      @poisson @uptime and the grammatically learned.. thoughts?

    • @vyas11 said:
      The question that baffles me is ...

      What is grammatically correct? Two threads have two different forms...

      "Service Provider X" Is Closing

      Or

      "Service Provider X" Are Closing


      @poisson @uptime and the grammatically learned.. thoughts?

      I think that the first is preferred in American English and the second is preferred in British English.

      "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

    • @vyas11 said:
      The question that baffles me is ...

      What is grammatically correct? Two threads have two different forms...

      "Service Provider X" Is Closing

      Or

      "Service Provider X" Are Closing


      @poisson @uptime and the grammatically learned.. thoughts?

      Literally, because we are talking about provider in the singular, the logical choice should be is. However, if there is a clear case of meaning where the singular form really is referring to multiple discrete units, then the plural may be appropriate.

      For example should it be "the police is", or should it be "the police are"?

      In the example below, the singular form of the verb is appropriate because we are referring to the police as one organization:

      The police is important for maintaining law and order.

      In the next example, the plural form is more appropriate because we are referring to many discrete individuals of the organization:

      The police are hunting for the mass shooter.

      So, ultimately, it can be a tricky call. I would go with the singular in your example because I don't think it is likely for "service provider X" to be understood as many discrete individuals.

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    • uptimeuptime Member
      edited February 5

      @angstrom said:

      @vyas11 said:
      The question that baffles me is ...

      What is grammatically correct? Two threads have two different forms...

      "Service Provider X" Is Closing

      Or

      "Service Provider X" Are Closing


      @poisson @uptime and the grammatically learned.. thoughts?

      I think that the first is preferred in American English and the second is preferred in British English.

      @angstrom ("the astute") am are have done did put it in the nutshells :)

      @poisson said:
      In the example below, the singular form of the verb is appropriate because we are referring to the police as one organization:

      The police is important for maintaining law and order.

      Da fuq? Citation needed please bro ...

      (This one just sounds oh so very very strange to my American English tuned ears)

      I do occasionally use the British-style plural conjugationalifications - and I am not sure exactly why I do it. Possibly "code switching" or for some ironic effect? Sometimes it just feels right, I dunno ....

      I've been playing around with statistically derived natural language models lately - it's always fun to be reminded that "the truth of this statement cannot be proved" ....

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    • vyas11vyas11 Member
      edited February 5

      The police is important for maintaining law and order.

      I am more familiar with the is than are. Particularly in print media here you are more likely to find a sentence along these lines than are.


      The Government is, or the Government are?

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    • @uptime said:

      @poisson said:
      In the example below, the singular form of the verb is appropriate because we are referring to the police as one organization:

      The police is important for maintaining law and order.

      Da fuq? Citation needed please bro ...

      (This one just sounds oh so very very strange to my American English tuned ears)

      Here's one: https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/police

      There are differences in opinion depending on the authority but I wouldn't judge it as being strictly right or wrong, as long as I can see a clear logic in terms of how they relate.

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    • @uptime said:
      it's always fun to be reminded that "the truth of this statement cannot be proved" ....

      This word is proving to be extremely grating to my Queen's English upbringing.

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    • uptimeuptime Member
      edited February 5

      @poisson said:

      @uptime said:
      it's always fun to be reminded that "the truth of this statement cannot be proved" ....

      This word is proving to be extremely grating to my Queen's English upbringing.

      Lol funny you should mention that - I had originally written "proven" but switched it because it sounded just a bit off to me.

      Now the grammar police will be wanting to have a word with me I reckon ...

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    • seriesnseriesn Member, Provider

      @uptime said:

      @poisson said:

      @uptime said:
      it's always fun to be reminded that "the truth of this statement cannot be proved" ....

      This word is proving to be extremely grating to my Queen's English upbringing.

      Lol funny you should mention that - I had originally written "proven" but switched it because it sounded just a bit off.

      Now the grammar police will be wanting to have a word with me I reckon ...

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    • @uptime said:

      @poisson said:

      @uptime said:
      it's always fun to be reminded that "the truth of this statement cannot be proved" ....

      This word is proving to be extremely grating to my Queen's English upbringing.

      Lol funny you should mention that - I had originally written "proven" but switched it because it sounded just a bit off to me.

      Now the grammar police will be wanting to have a word with me I reckon ...

      Pull over. Do you have proof? Was it proven? This has proved to be interesting. Is red a colour? It's proven that blue is a color.

      • explode *

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    • Oi u got a license for that poet-ry mate?

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    • @uptime said:
      Oi u got a license for that poet-ry mate?

      Only creative license guv

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    • seems it's expired, boss

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    • imokimok Member

      @vyas11 said:
      The question that baffles me is ...

      What is grammatically correct? Two threads have two different forms...

      "Service Provider X" Is Closing

      Or

      "Service Provider X" Are Closing


      @poisson @uptime and the grammatically learned.. thoughts?

      I don't know a lot about of English, but we are talking about a singular provider, so the verb should be IS. The other case would be "service providers ARE closing".

      It is really weird to know that "service provider X are closing" is even an option.

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    • @imok said:

      @vyas11 said:
      The question that baffles me is ...

      What is grammatically correct? Two threads have two different forms...

      "Service Provider X" Is Closing

      Or

      "Service Provider X" Are Closing


      @poisson @uptime and the grammatically learned.. thoughts?

      I don't know a lot about of English, but we are talking about a singular provider, so the verb should be IS. The other case would be "service providers ARE closing".

      It is really weird to know that "service provider X are closing" is even an option.

      Indeed, in Spanish, as far as I'm aware, the plural form of the verb wouldn't be possible in this case.

      As far as British English usage is concerned, the idea is that if the subject, even if grammatically singular, refers to a group of individuals (i.e., a collective entity), then it is semantically plural (i.e., the interpretation of the subject is plural), in which case the plural form of the verb "agrees with" this semantically plural group or entity. For example:

      • netcup have a new promotion!

      In American English, this would be:

      • netcup has a new promotion!
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    • @imok said:

      @vyas11 said:
      The question that baffles me is ...

      What is grammatically correct? Two threads have two different forms...

      "Service Provider X" Is Closing

      Or

      "Service Provider X" Are Closing


      @poisson @uptime and the grammatically learned.. thoughts?

      I don't know a lot about of English, but we are talking about a singular provider, so the verb should be IS. The other case would be "service providers ARE closing".

      It is really weird to know that "service provider X are closing" is even an option.

      English is really hard.

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    • imokimok Member

      @poisson said:

      @imok said:

      @vyas11 said:
      The question that baffles me is ...

      What is grammatically correct? Two threads have two different forms...

      "Service Provider X" Is Closing

      Or

      "Service Provider X" Are Closing


      @poisson @uptime and the grammatically learned.. thoughts?

      I don't know a lot about of English, but we are talking about a singular provider, so the verb should be IS. The other case would be "service providers ARE closing".

      It is really weird to know that "service provider X are closing" is even an option.

      English is really hard.

      Yeah... no :lol:

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    • Perhaps.

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    • @uptime said:
      Perhaps.

      definitely maybe.

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    • cociucociu Member, Provider

      i do free class so .. join please.

    • jpengjpeng Member

      Boys, can u answer my questions,

      1) Will they refund me?
      2) What’s the alternative? I paid to HostDoc 25 BGP yearly, I expect no more than this.

      Thanks

    • deankdeank Member
      edited February 5

      1) Remains to be seen.
      2) None. All of his hosting plans were loss-leaders.

      The powers of PMS.

    • seriesnseriesn Member, Provider
      edited February 5

      @jpeng said:
      Boys, can u answer my questions,

      1) Will they refund me?
      2) What’s the alternative? I paid to HostDoc 25 BGP yearly, I expect no more than this.

      Thanks

      1) No Clue

      2) https://nexusbytes.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=82 + Annual payment + HD10 Coupon.

      When you convert GBP to USD, it comes extremely close :)

      Join the family boss. Our LA and Germany locations are pretty decent for china.

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    • seriesn said: Our LA and Germany locations are pretty decent for china.

      Yup, keep 'em away from the best place! ;)

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    • jpengjpeng Member

      @seriesn said:

      @jpeng said:
      Boys, can u answer my questions,

      1) Will they refund me?
      2) What’s the alternative? I paid to HostDoc 25 BGP yearly, I expect no more than this.

      Thanks

      1) No Clue

      2) https://nexusbytes.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=82 + Annual payment + HD10 Coupon.

      When you convert GBP to USD, it comes extremely close :)

      Join the family boss. Our LA and Germany locations are pretty decent for china.

      @seriesn are there any test IPs?

    • @AlwaysSkint said:

      seriesn said: Our LA and Germany locations are pretty decent for china.

      Yup, keep 'em away from the best place! ;)

      He thinks the best places are detrimental to the financial health of his business.

    • seriesnseriesn Member, Provider

      @vyas11 said:

      @AlwaysSkint said:

      seriesn said: Our LA and Germany locations are pretty decent for china.

      Yup, keep 'em away from the best place! ;)

      He thinks the best places are detrimental to the financial health of his business.

      I got cash to throw but don't got enough stash to burn. Can't colo, nor YOLO. So there's that lol.

      @jpeng said:

      @seriesn said:

      @jpeng said:
      Boys, can u answer my questions,

      1) Will they refund me?
      2) What’s the alternative? I paid to HostDoc 25 BGP yearly, I expect no more than this.

      Thanks

      1) No Clue

      2) https://nexusbytes.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=82 + Annual payment + HD10 Coupon.

      When you convert GBP to USD, it comes extremely close :)

      Join the family boss. Our LA and Germany locations are pretty decent for china.

      @seriesn are there any test IPs?

      Here you go buddy.

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    • @seriesn lol(o)

    • damn, I thought hostdoc is really closing -_-

    • jpengjpeng Member

      @seriesn I have interests in your service, thanks for the info.

      May I ask one more question, the lesson I learned from hostdoc is, IDCs have the risk of "跑路“. so when will you plan to "跑路“, or never?

      Regards.

    • @jpeng said:
      @seriesn I have interests in your service, thanks for the info.

      May I ask one more question, the lesson I learned from hostdoc is, IDCs have the risk of "跑路“. so when will you plan to "跑路“, or never?

      Regards.

      He has just introduced Chinese language customer support. Do you think he will be closing shop so soon? Also, recently he was offering to buy struggling providers. There are lots of data to suggest he is a strong provider.

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    • jpeng said: "跑路

      English only please. Some readers do not speak other languages and neither do some mods. It is in the rules and the only reason this place is not like LEB is we tend to follow those rules.

      I am not trying to be an ass but things are done a certain way here and thus we still have this place is all.

      Catch me over at Primary DNS. If you want to chat I am done with this cesspool.

    • seriesnseriesn Member, Provider

      @jpeng said:
      @seriesn I have interests in your service, thanks for the info.

      May I ask one more question, the lesson I learned from hostdoc is, IDCs have the risk of "跑路“. so when will you plan to "跑路“, or never?

      Regards.

      Hey Buddy,
      I actually had to ask a friend for translation, since google translation is very inaccurate.

      Never is a promise that no one can make. Life happens.

      However, I have mentioned this here in the past, this business is my retirement plan. I have vested interest in staying in this industry for long enough and worked/working extremely hard to build a quality brand, where customers are treated right and get an amazing value for their money and time :).

    • MikeAMikeA Member, Provider

      @seriesn said:
      this business is my retirement plan.

      Pretty confident to say that about hosting.

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    • I have known @seriesn for a very long time. If he says it is going to be this way you can count on it being this way, unless he dies or something. He will not tell lies, and he will help you if you need it. He is a good guy and likes what he does.

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