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    Password Manager Suggestions

    LeeLee Member

    So, its time to modernise, I can no longer keep my password written down and need something to do it for me. What are you suggesting for the easiest one that I can also put my wife on as well? Never used one, no idea about any of them.

    I have just spent a couple of hours reviewing a few but they all have as many pros/cons as each other.

    Must work easily across all Apple devices as well as Windows.

    Done a little poll to gauge what people are recommending.

    Password Manager
    1. Which Password Manager?137 votes
      1. LastPass
        29.20%
      2. 1Password
        13.87%
      3. BitWarden
        31.39%
      4. DashLane
          2.92%
      5. Something Else
        22.63%

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    • rubenruben Member, Provider
      edited February 1

      Maybe have a look at KeePass. It's OpenSource and has a ton of Client implementations. A big plus for me is that you can sync it over Nextcloud (or any other cloud storage).

    • done, i have been polling

    • LeeLee Member

      ruben said: Maybe have a look at KeePass.

      I don't see much love from Apple users who seem to suggest this is more a Windows-based manager with ports for Apple which are hit and miss.

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    • MikeAMikeA Member, Provider

      Well it's been 2-3 years now I think since I used LastPass, still have no issues with it.

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    • thedpthedp Member

      I’m looking for one too, that works on Apple as well as Windows.

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    • Been pretty happy with Enpass. Instead of cloud app it uses database sync via included Dropbox connectivity. All major platforms supported. https://www.enpass.io .

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    • @MikeA said:
      Well it's been 2-3 years now I think since I used LastPass, still have no issues with it.

      Well, I miss multi websites and Android app login in Lastpass. This have changed?

    • Been happy with 1Password. Though they really emphasize the subscription, you can still buy standalone licenses. I keep my safe on Dropbox.

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    • MikeAMikeA Member, Provider
      edited February 2

      @mtsbatalha said:

      @MikeA said:
      Well it's been 2-3 years now I think since I used LastPass, still have no issues with it.

      Well, I miss multi websites and Android app login in Lastpass. This have changed?

      No clue what you mean by "multi websites" but Android app login works fine for me... but I rarely ever use that. I know that it isn't the best for Android, but for iOS it works well.

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    • LeeLee Member

      raindog308 said: Been happy with 1Password.

      It certainly appears to get good reviews, I was debating between LastPass and 1password until I saw the really poor and regular reviews on LastPass, especially on TrustPilot where it is rated 2/5 compared to almost 5 for 1password.

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    • RossGRossG Member, Provider

      1Password family plan. Works flawlessly, I've used LastPass before and it feels incredibly clunky in comparison.

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    • NyrNyr Member

      If you are an Apple guy, 1Password is really the way to go, but they are pushing very hard the subscription model so consider that it will be a recurring cost.

      LastPass is buggy and hasn't the best UX but will probably be around for a long time, Bitwarden could be the next big one but isn't perfect either.

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    • riotriot Member

      I've been using msecure for years. It suits my needs.

    • MikeAMikeA Member, Provider

      @RossG said:
      1Password family plan. Works flawlessly, I've used LastPass before and it feels incredibly clunky in comparison.

      What apps do you use for 1Password? Browser extension?

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    • akhfaakhfa Member

      1password is on my watch list, but I currently use bitwarden

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    • Enpass

    • I know I’ll probably get hate for this - but I find it stupid to put all your passwords, in one place.

    • KeePass is the way to go. For cross-platform compatibility, there is KeeWeb: https://github.com/keeweb/keeweb

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    • OujiOuji Member

      Bitwarden.

    • akhfaakhfa Member

      @Moofie said:
      I know I’ll probably get hate for this - but I find it stupid to put all your passwords, in one place.

      Then spread your password to some provider. 1 password spread to 2 provider, and you will achieve HA ;)

    • @poisson said:
      KeePass is the way to go. For cross-platform compatibility, there is KeeWeb: https://github.com/keeweb/keeweb

      I second this. Haven't tried the mac version though (works fine on Windows and Linux). Try this?
      https://macpassapp.org/

      LastPass stores all the passwords on their server. KeePass - you can keep it on your computer. And it can all be nicely structured to find what you need. Boils down to whether you consider your computer(s) safer than LastPass's server.

      Mostly harmless™

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    • Have you tried Masterpassword?

    • https://keepassxc.org/ Using it for several years now.

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    • @varwww said:
      https://keepassxc.org/ Using it for several years now.

      I use this on all my Linux machines. There is a neat browser integration feature that allows you to auto-fill on supported browsers easily. Also, at least for android, there are apps capable of reading KeePass databases so I have my passwords and other important personal data on my phone (even when offline).

      The other nice thing about KeePass is you can store in the database important documents or images. The database size will balloon of course, but I do attach digital copies of really important documents into my KeePass database in case I need them (driver's license, national ID card etc).

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    • Apple devices seems to the reason I am unable to plug my favourite since 12+ years : Keepass (and now switched to KeepassXC).

      The encrypted flat file synced by Dropbox before; now handled by Seafile.

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    • @poisson said:

      @varwww said:
      https://keepassxc.org/ Using it for several years now.

      I use this on all my Linux machines. There is a neat browser integration feature that allows you to auto-fill on supported browsers easily. Also, at least for android, there are apps capable of reading KeePass databases so I have my passwords and other important personal data on my phone (even when offline).

      The other nice thing about KeePass is you can store in the database important documents or images. The database size will balloon of course, but I do attach digital copies of really important documents into my KeePass database in case I need them (driver's license, national ID card etc).

      I can confirm that it works on iphone as well.
      (Being a total git when it comes to smartphones, I took advice for the most idiot-friendly choice that makes good photos)

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      Mostly harmless™

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    • LastPass is my favourite

    • I use Bitwarden_rs at the moment.
      https://github.com/dani-garcia/bitwarden_rs

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    • LeeLee Member

      I decided to go with 1Password, it fits the brief well in that I also need my wife to use it.

      I am going to make the bold statement that LastPass has got the votes it has because people are using the free version rather than it being the best option.

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    • jsgjsg Member

      Depends on what you want and whom you trust.

      Speaking as a security guy I always recommend against cloud based "solutions".

      If you want something readily available and with a nice gui I'd have a look at keeppass. If you don't want to trust anyone I'd recommend a simple text file, 1 line per entry, and encrypted with e.g. AES using an on-board tool of your OS.

      Short explanation: It's virtually never the crypto algorithm that gets cracked - or even just attacked. It's basically always the implementation and/or libraries and/or OS weaknesses that get attacked and cracked.
      From this there arises an obvious rule: the fewer layers the better/less likely vulnerable.

      Looking at it like this cloud is the worst solution because it has most layers (plus usually the (security-wise) worst programming languages). Something local with a gui is better but still more vulnerable than something local without a gui.

      Thanks no.

    • @MikeA said:
      Well it's been 2-3 years now I think since I used LastPass, still have no issues with it.

      I've been using LastPass for many years but have gone Google-free and their Android app requires Play services. So I'm planning to switch.

    • LeeLee Member
      edited February 2

      jsg said: Speaking as a security guy I always recommend against cloud based "solutions".

      Security guys don't offer solutions that are compatible with my wife's requirements. True story.

      And besides, on balance, a cloud-based solution in security terms is a significantly better option than her using the same password everywhere.

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    • AMXRTAMXRT Member

      Hey OP, your vote candidates list is really a bunch of disgusting spyware. Please use KeePassXC or PassFF extension if you have to use/keep passwords in a browser.

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    • LeeLee Member

      AMXRT said: Hey OP, your vote candidates list is really a bunch of disgusting spyware.

      Hey commentor, your ability to read is disgusting.

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    • WebProjectWebProject Member, Provider

      Personally I like BitWarden and passwords over 32 characters so impossible to remember, the LastPass had recently security issues unless it was fake news as some news website do fake news for money exactly the same as some PC mags fake reviews.

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    • jsgjsg Member

      @Lee said:
      And besides, on balance, a cloud-based solution in security terms is a significantly better option than her using the same password everywhere.

      Is it really? It might well turn out to end the same.

      But you are right, "what someone's wife wants" really isn't my expertise. So I'll just drop "keeppassx" again and keep it at that.

      Thanks no.

    • LeeLee Member

      jsg said: Is it really? It might well turn out to end the same.

      Indeed, nothing is perfect, but my time is better spent elsewhere than the doom and gloom of every decision made.

      1Password has been around long enough, no doubt customers in the millions and reviews are good, no hacks to date. That is sufficient for me.

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    • acidpukeacidpuke Member
      edited February 2

      I mainly use the paid version of BitWarden I think its $10 a year, works really well for my desktop (Firefox) and sync's to my iPhone for any apps. The free version works just as well but I liked it so much I wanted to support it.

      KeePass is another excellent free program I have used for quite a few years, still use but more so as a backup.

    • Personally I use KeePass and Bitwarden, though lately I've been using Bitwarden pretty much exclusively for ease of use and the free syncing between OSs and easy browser integration. Might try it self-hosted at some point but it's pretty great.

    • I've used Bitwarden for quite some time and recently switched over to 1password as Bitwarden had some annoying kinks for me. Both are great options.

    • KeePass, audited and has support for argon2 keys;

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    • bikegremlinbikegremlin Member
      edited February 2

      @Lee said:

      jsg said: Speaking as a security guy I always recommend against cloud based "solutions".

      Security guys don't offer solutions that are compatible with my wife's requirements. True story.

      And besides, on balance, a cloud-based solution in security terms is a significantly better option than her using the same password everywhere.

      Good point. From my experience - many developers I've met use LastPass with no complaints for now. It is free and super convenient.

      Though, KeePass is also rather easy and simple to use. However, it does take some more time: no auto filling in logins, you have to copy/paste.

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      Mostly harmless™

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    • LeeLee Member

      bikegremlin said: no auto filling in logins, you have to copy/paste.

      I don't have time for that nevermind my wife :)

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    • @Lee there is actually Apple's own solution with their Keychain thing...that is cross-Apple-platforms as well. I know it constantly asks me if I want to save passwords to it.

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    • poissonpoisson Member
      edited February 3

      @bikegremlin said:

      @Lee said:

      jsg said: Speaking as a security guy I always recommend against cloud based "solutions".

      Security guys don't offer solutions that are compatible with my wife's requirements. True story.

      And besides, on balance, a cloud-based solution in security terms is a significantly better option than her using the same password everywhere.

      Good point. From my experience - many developers I've met use LastPass with no complaints for now. It is free and super convenient.

      Though, KeePass is also rather easy and simple to use. However, it does take some more time: no auto filling in logins, you have to copy/paste.

      Autofill for browsers work ok. Mobile phones are the tricky ones (talking about KeePass)

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    • I was using LastPass at first until they sold to LogMeIn. Then I switched to 1Password until Dropbox limiting the sync devices. Now I'm using EnPass and sync with One Drive. Very satisfied with them.

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    • maddymaddy Member

      @Lee said:

      jsg said: Speaking as a security guy I always recommend against cloud based "solutions".

      Security guys don't offer solutions that are compatible with my wife's requirements. True story.

      And besides, on balance, a cloud-based solution in security terms is a significantly better option than her using the same password everywhere.

      It is true we ladies are not so good with technology. I try my best to learn but somehow my guy friends get it much more quickly than I do. :cry:

    • @maddy said:

      @Lee said:

      jsg said: Speaking as a security guy I always recommend against cloud based "solutions".

      Security guys don't offer solutions that are compatible with my wife's requirements. True story.

      And besides, on balance, a cloud-based solution in security terms is a significantly better option than her using the same password everywhere.

      It is true we ladies are not so good with technology. I try my best to learn but somehow my guy friends get it much more quickly than I do. :cry:

      It just means you are hanging with the right crowd.

      My experience is that very few women are interested in tech. (or mechanics) stuff, but those who are (and are intelligent and hard working - but this prerequisite goes for guys as well) - they are brilliant (at least with tech. - am yet to meet a female mechanic).

      Last year we did a WordPress workshop in my city. One of the best students was a woman. I told her (and really meant it): "keep it up and, within a year, two at most, I'd be the one asking you questions on how to do this and that".

      Mostly harmless™

      I/O Gremlin

    • jsgjsg Member

      Side note: copy and paste is one of the most vulnerable parts of the password game. copy and paste into a browser or auto-fill by some plugin is akin to crossing a very busy highway with closed eyes.

      Do not trust your browser, let alone browser plugins!

      If you absolutely want to have the comfort of not typing your passphrase have a look at using webauthn tokens.

      Thanks no.

    • NyrNyr Member

      @maddy said:

      @Lee said:

      jsg said: Speaking as a security guy I always recommend against cloud based "solutions".

      Security guys don't offer solutions that are compatible with my wife's requirements. True story.

      And besides, on balance, a cloud-based solution in security terms is a significantly better option than her using the same password everywhere.

      It is true we ladies are not so good with technology. I try my best to learn but somehow my guy friends get it much more quickly than I do. :cry:

      Why do so many Chinese guys insist on passing as a woman online?

      I guess this is some sort of cultural thing given how common it is, but never understood the reasoning for it.

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