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Is Froxlor a good beginner control panel?

tdwuktdwuk Member

Hi,
I am going to use a VPS to host some starter sites. I was looking for a free or cheap control panel to manage the server - like cpanel.

I see Froxlor is opensource and seems to be popular, and there is Zesle which is cheap.

Any others I should consider for testing?

I am a layman when it comes to VPS setup, I bought a couple from Virmach, 2 Windows and 2 Linux. Need to put the Linus ones to use :)

Thanks for any input.

London, UK.

Comments

  • donkodonko Member

    the best one free for me is vestacp (using myvesta)

  • tdwuktdwuk Member

    Thanks, I am sure I read somewhere to avoid vesta, something about it being unsafe or something, I think it might be another forum.

    London, UK.

  • AuroraZAuroraZ Member
    edited February 1

    If you like no support or updates, and some holes on your panel it is a good choice.

    New friendly panels are hard to find. I have used Kloxo-MR but not recently. I have not even looked in on it tbh. Worked ok and was active back then.

    Edit: I am beginning to detest this new phone.

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  • MikeAMikeA Member, Provider

    Look at Hestia or Virtualmin.

    ExtraVM - AMD Ryzen VPS starting @ $3.50
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  • CentOS web panel and ISPConfig is also okay

    Reach me at manishpant.com . Discord Id: Manish#6403

  • for basic site, no reseller.. go for aapanel https://www.aapanel.com/

  • Cyberpanel
    Centos

  • @kaz050457 said:
    for basic site, no reseller.. go for aapanel https://www.aapanel.com/

    Really that panel is a crap, heavy usage of ram and core all time , vestacp is much better then that

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  • @ManishPant said:

    @kaz050457 said:
    for basic site, no reseller.. go for aapanel https://www.aapanel.com/

    Really that panel is a crap, heavy usage of ram and core all time , vestacp is much better then that

    I have a different experience from testing it for a few mths. Pretty light.

    Remember the value of LET is purely based on its traffic.

  • @cybertech said:

    @ManishPant said:

    @kaz050457 said:
    for basic site, no reseller.. go for aapanel https://www.aapanel.com/

    Really that panel is a crap, heavy usage of ram and core all time , vestacp is much better then that

    I have a different experience from testing it for a few mths. Pretty light.

    I tried on my OVH SSD VPS and for me it was a crap all the time heavy usage , vestacp, CentOs Web Panel and ISPConfig turnouts to be much better then that .

    Reach me at manishpant.com . Discord Id: Manish#6403

  • @ManishPant said:

    @cybertech said:

    @ManishPant said:

    @kaz050457 said:
    for basic site, no reseller.. go for aapanel https://www.aapanel.com/

    Really that panel is a crap, heavy usage of ram and core all time , vestacp is much better then that

    I have a different experience from testing it for a few mths. Pretty light.

    I tried on my OVH SSD VPS and for me it was a crap all the time heavy usage , vestacp, CentOs Web Panel and ISPConfig turnouts to be much better then that .

    Did you test just panel or with a live site?

    Remember the value of LET is purely based on its traffic.

  • @cybertech said:

    @ManishPant said:

    @cybertech said:

    @ManishPant said:

    @kaz050457 said:
    for basic site, no reseller.. go for aapanel https://www.aapanel.com/

    Really that panel is a crap, heavy usage of ram and core all time , vestacp is much better then that

    I have a different experience from testing it for a few mths. Pretty light.

    I tried on my OVH SSD VPS and for me it was a crap all the time heavy usage , vestacp, CentOs Web Panel and ISPConfig turnouts to be much better then that .

    Did you test just panel or with a live site?

    with a live site was installing wordpress

    Reach me at manishpant.com . Discord Id: Manish#6403

  • kaz050457kaz050457 Member
    edited February 2

    @ManishPant said:

    @kaz050457 said:
    for basic site, no reseller.. go for aapanel https://www.aapanel.com/

    Really that panel is a crap, heavy usage of ram and core all time , vestacp is much better then that

    hosted 10 low traffic sites..

    my memory usages for the past 30days https://ibb.co/nLf6dhJ average of 400mb ram... Hosted on hetzner cxII..

  • @ManishPant said:

    @cybertech said:

    @ManishPant said:

    @kaz050457 said:
    for basic site, no reseller.. go for aapanel https://www.aapanel.com/

    Really that panel is a crap, heavy usage of ram and core all time , vestacp is much better then that

    I have a different experience from testing it for a few mths. Pretty light.

    I tried on my OVH SSD VPS and for me it was a crap all the time heavy usage , vestacp, CentOs Web Panel and ISPConfig turnouts to be much better then that .

    Did you test just panel or with a live site? > @ManishPant said:

    @cybertech said:

    @ManishPant said:

    @cybertech said:

    @ManishPant said:

    @kaz050457 said:
    for basic site, no reseller.. go for aapanel https://www.aapanel.com/

    Really that panel is a crap, heavy usage of ram and core all time , vestacp is much better then that

    I have a different experience from testing it for a few mths. Pretty light.

    I tried on my OVH SSD VPS and for me it was a crap all the time heavy usage , vestacp, CentOs Web Panel and ISPConfig turnouts to be much better then that .

    Did you test just panel or with a live site?

    with a live site was installing wordpress

    My problem with aapanel is that the default config seem more suitable for larger servers.

    After tuning , boom!

    Remember the value of LET is purely based on its traffic.

  • I would recomment CyberPanel instead of Froxlor .. Just try to give a try to cyberpanel. You will get awsome speed on wordpress sites since is using openlitespeed and LSCache.

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  • I use YunoHost. Easy to set up and use.

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  • tdwuktdwuk Member

    I tried Zesle as it was easy to install, seems like a decent starting point.
    This is for my own sites but I want to use as WHM for setting up sites.
    How about RunCloud?

    London, UK.

  • ViridWebViridWeb Member, Provider

    @tdwuk said:
    Hi,
    I am going to use a VPS to host some starter sites. I was looking for a free or cheap control panel to manage the server - like cpanel.

    I see Froxlor is opensource and seems to be popular, and there is Zesle which is cheap.

    Any others I should consider for testing?

    I am a layman when it comes to VPS setup, I bought a couple from Virmach, 2 Windows and 2 Linux. Need to put the Linus ones to use :)

    Thanks for any input.

    With just few $ extra per month I would choose directadmin instead
    Even many providers provide directadmin included with their vps for free.. like buyvm @Francisco

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  • I'm using froxlor for a couple installations and it's running very smoothly. No issues during the last two years, easy updating and very customizable. Can definitely recommend it. If you're looking into another option maybe keyhelp.de is suiting for your needs too.

    Thanked by 1tdwuk
  • @tdwuk said:
    Hi,
    I am going to use a VPS to host some starter sites. I was looking for a free or cheap control panel to manage the server - like cpanel.

    I see Froxlor is opensource and seems to be popular, and there is Zesle which is cheap.

    Any others I should consider for testing?

    I am a layman when it comes to VPS setup, I bought a couple from Virmach, 2 Windows and 2 Linux. Need to put the Linus ones to use :)

    Thanks for any input.

    If you want to use free control panel try VestaCP.

    Thanked by 1tdwuk
  • ll70ll70 Member

    Froxlor it is a very good, very fast and secure open source control panel.

    Thanked by 2webcraft tdwuk
  • tdwuktdwuk Member

    I am yet to test Froxlor. I totally missed that CyberPanel had a free version, installed that or a Virmach server, seemed to be ok but had issues when trying to install WordPress via installer. Tried manual upload and the files didn't upload.
    Tested on another VPS from Racknerd and it seems to work just fine. Both running ubuntu 18.04.
    I have been told that Ubuntu is more resource-hungry than Centos and I should switch to that.
    Thanks for the input, going to try myvesta, Froxlor and the interesting YunoHost

    London, UK.

  • pkrpkr Member

    MyVestaCP is a very nice control panel. Easy to install and setup.

    People who work sincerely are the happiest - discoverbits

  • illyhostingillyhosting Member, Provider

    You can check their issues here: https://github.com/Froxlor/Froxlor/issues

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  • I love these posts because all these control panels suddenly come out of the wood work that I have never heard of before. Sometimes I learn something new, and sometimes I see a lot of shady shit. LOL

  • MridulMridul Member
    edited February 11
    • VestaCP
    • KloxoMR
    • ISPConfig

    A better option would be to get a VPS and Get free DirectAdmin with it..with hosts like BuyVM.

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  • HestiaCP (1.1.0) have good improvements if you want try it (is not released yet but you can install it anyway), only thing is lack of file manager :cry:

  • pkrpkr Member

    @donko said:
    HestiaCP (1.1.0) have good improvements if you want try it (is not released yet but you can install it anyway), only thing is lack of file manager :cry:

    Does it still have MPM prefork and php-cgi?
    Do not know why VestaCP and HestiaCP are not adding MPM event and PHP-FPM for Apache.

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  • @pkr said:

    @donko said:
    HestiaCP (1.1.0) have good improvements if you want try it (is not released yet but you can install it anyway), only thing is lack of file manager :cry:

    Does it still have MPM prefork and php-cgi?
    Do not know why VestaCP and HestiaCP are not adding MPM event and PHP-FPM for Apache.

    php-fpm with mpm prefork, but can be switched to mpm event without breaking anything

  • To be honest, after using cyber panel for around a year, I have some thoughts about it.

    Pros:

    • easy setup
    • easily create everything for a new website with let's encrypt.
    • not bad performance if compare to apache, or Nginx + apache
    • free
    • pretty nice GUI's for configuring it (OLS, not cyber panel ones)

    Cons (only about cyber panel):

    • very frequently I have broken my whole server with many websites because of upgrades, was not able to log in anywhere at all, because of 500 errors, and so on.
    • I have absolutely ZERO knowledge about OLS and CyberPanel structure, it's some kind of alien technology for me, because almost impossible to read or trace logs, create separate logs for websites, analyze logs (access logs, error logs, etc).
    • htaccess for damn a lot of cases does not work the same as it works on apache, (very common and very frequent rewrite rules).
    • OLS cache works I don't know how, I have enabled it, yes, everything ultra-fast, but I notice a long time ago many bugs with this for dynamic content (where I have everything set correctly, and which works fine out the box on Nginx or fastcgi_cache solutions).

    My personal summary:

    • because vestaCP much more bugged, and insecure
    • and all other alternatives much worst then cyberpanel (alternatives that I have tried to use).
      I will still stick to the cyberpanel even because of bugs on upgrade stage.
      Because right now as far as I see there are no anything so good as cyberpanel anymore (free ones).

    I do not even look into centminmode, or other pre-configured packages of CUI apps.
    I know, that they're good, but not feed my needs.

    Thanked by 1tdwuk
  • @desperand said:
    To be honest, after using cyber panel for around a year, I have some thoughts about it.

    Pros:

    • easy setup
    • easily create everything for a new website with let's encrypt.
    • not bad performance if compare to apache, or Nginx + apache
    • free
    • pretty nice GUI's for configuring it (OLS, not cyber panel ones)

    Cons (only about cyber panel):

    • very frequently I have broken my whole server with many websites because of upgrades, was not able to log in anywhere at all, because of 500 errors, and so on.
    • I have absolutely ZERO knowledge about OLS and CyberPanel structure, it's some kind of alien technology for me, because almost impossible to read or trace logs, create separate logs for websites, analyze logs (access logs, error logs, etc).
    • htaccess for damn a lot of cases does not work the same as it works on apache, (very common and very frequent rewrite rules).
    • OLS cache works I don't know how, I have enabled it, yes, everything ultra-fast, but I notice a long time ago many bugs with this for dynamic content (where I have everything set correctly, and which works fine out the box on Nginx or fastcgi_cache solutions).

    My personal summary:

    • because vestaCP much more bugged, and insecure
    • and all other alternatives much worst then cyberpanel (alternatives that I have tried to use).
      I will still stick to the cyberpanel even because of bugs on upgrade stage.
      Because right now as far as I see there are no anything so good as cyberpanel anymore (free ones).

    I do not even look into centminmode, or other pre-configured packages of CUI apps.
    I know, that they're good, but not feed my needs.

    Have got similar experience as well. Works well out of the box but some features like backup etc don't work bug free. Changelogs aren't communicated as widely as before and it seems to go for more new features instead of bug fixing.
    Very often reinstall new version instead of upgrade panel.

    Tested aapanel for some time and recently it's quite ok for basic users. Nginx works well, even restart panel site comes back up much faster than cyberpanel /ols. With the right config the speed and load is almost same as cyberpanel on visual comparison.

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    Remember the value of LET is purely based on its traffic.

  • tdwuktdwuk Member

    I decided to use RunCloud unlimited server package. It was easy to set up and everything works. Their support was responsive to the 1-2 issues I had. I considered ploi.io but I had issues when testing. I also considered gridpane, but it is too expensive for starter sites.

    London, UK.

  • Tony40Tony40 Member
    edited May 17

    After testing many free control panels, The best control panel for Debian Based distros is Keyhelp. it work out of the box. https://www.keyhelp.de/en/

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  • HyperK9HyperK9 Member

    Cyberpanel is amazing, and includes Openlitespeed

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  • kaz050457kaz050457 Member

    try aapanel support apache,nginx,python,docker,openlitespeed and more..

  • HostkeyHostkey Member

    You could check Ajenti, OpenPanel, ZPanel

  • tdwuktdwuk Member

    I tried Cyberpanel, it worked well initially but after adding a few sites I started to get SSL issues, then issues with the WP sites. I looked through the forum and found that users had issues with updates causing problems so I decided it wasn't for me.
    AAPanel, similarly is great because it's free but I can't deal with the stress when issues crop up and I have to reinstall.
    Runcloud is good for me as a newbie and their support has been good so far.

    London, UK.

  • I have heard some good review about froxlor so I thought i would give it a try on a project I am working on. The project will require me to insall multiple of domains and most of my sites will be static based sites. I am looking to use the power of nginx to serve my static files but use the ability of apache to work with the mod rewrites etc.

  • o_be_oneo_be_one Member

    I've used VestaCP for at least one year because i've a non profit team whos are not expert. Well, it was a fucking pain in the ass tbh. Who can desire a panel that has a hole at the beginning? You need to harden your server yourself before anything ; a panel like this one is normally made to be reliable direct after install, not after your own patch.

    I had few issues with my experience also:

    • security breach direct after install (fortunately we found it and fixed it quick ; a well known issue)
    • LetsEncrypt not generating certs
    • issue with wildcard subdomains (including SSL)
    • had some domains that stopped to work without any reason

    So for me VestaCP is a big no. CPanel and DirectAdmin are much better, and included with few KVM providers here for free.

    DevOps and Site Reliability Engineer. Looks cool when i know what i do.
    Doing useless stuffs on amazing providers services because... Why not?
  • dpecadpeca Member
    edited May 23

    @donko said:

    @pkr said:
    Does it still have MPM prefork and php-cgi?
    Do not know why VestaCP and HestiaCP are not adding MPM event and PHP-FPM for Apache.

    php-fpm with mpm prefork, but can be switched to mpm event without breaking anything

    www.myvestacp.com is switched to mpm_event by default (on debian10).

    @o_be_one look security features of myVesta.

  • pkrpkr Member

    @dpeca I had replaced VestaCP with MyVestaCP, but I had to go back to VestaCP on one of my VPS because "Gallery3" CMS does not work properly because of some Apache/Nginx/PHP/MariaDB settings set by MyVestaCP.

    Developers of Gallery3 use session key to combined css and js files and the session key is stored in the database. When you access the page, the combined css and js files are delivered from a folder that does not exist. I tried to understand their code, but have not yet figured out what they are doing. On Gallery3's forum, many have posted this problem, but developers never answered the questions; they just suggested to change the hosting company.

    I do not blame them as I tested HestiaCP/CWP/Floxor/VestaCP and Gallery3 works perfectly fine on them. It fails to load the combined css/js files from the non-existing folder only on MyVestaCP. I liked HestiaCP, but it seems a bit slow. So, I want to use MyVestaCP. I think you are one of the developers of MyVestaCP. Can you please let me know the differences in Apache settings in MyVestaCP vs VestaCP.

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  • dpecadpeca Member
    edited May 23

    pkr said: Developers of Gallery3 use session key to combined css and js files and the session key is stored in the database. When you access the page, the combined css and js files are delivered from a folder that does not exist.

    You should just do this:
    Web -> Edit (domain) -> Proxy template -> hosting-legacy

    hosting-legacy template will pass requests for non-existent static files to Apache (where .htaccess will resolve it with mod-rewrite)

    hosting template will NOT pass requests for non-existent static files to Apache.
    When you have shared server with lot wordpress sites, it's common that some sites is linking image files that does not exists.
    Well, all those http requests (to non-existent static files) goes then to Apache and then to PHP-FPM, and then the whole WordPress will be initialized, with mysql connection to mysql... just in order to say "Ahhh, it's really 404".
    Imagine wordpress site with 10 non-existent images per page.... with visitors every second.
    That's 10 requests to wordpress per second.
    So, this new hosting template will save a lot of CPU time on shared hosting server.
    I'm just explaining why I modified default hosting template .

    Back to topic... for Gallery3 just put hosting-legacy template - and everything will works like in Vesta/Hestia :)

    pkr said: Can you please let me know the differences in Apache settings in MyVestaCP vs VestaCP.

    Except optimization that I already mentioned above, myVesta has Apache in mpm_event mode, which is fast mode the same way the nginx is fast.

  • pkrpkr Member

    Thanks a lot @dpeca
    It worked like a charm. I have been banging my head for days and the solution was so easy. You saved my time.

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  • dpecadpeca Member

    pkr said: Thanks a lot @dpeca

    next time open issue on github, so i can help quckly :)

  • pkrpkr Member

    @dpeca said:

    pkr said: Thanks a lot @dpeca

    next time open issue on github, so i can help quckly :)

    I was planning to open the issue on the Github, then I saw your comment here. :blush:

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  • notarobonotarobo Member
    edited May 24

    @tdwuk said:
    I tried Cyberpanel, it worked well initially but after adding a few sites I started to get SSL issues, then issues with the WP sites. I looked through the forum and found that users had issues with updates causing problems so I decided it wasn't for me.
    AAPanel, similarly is great because it's free but I can't deal with the stress when issues crop up and I have to reinstall.
    Runcloud is good for me as a newbie and their support has been good so far.

    Hao much is runcloid?

  • tdwuktdwuk Member

    https://runcloud.io/pricing
    $8/15/45 Monthly
    $6.67/12.5/37.5 Annually

    I am on the $15 unlimited Pro package, the cheap one is only 1 server.

    London, UK.

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