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    Hetzner counterpart in the US?

    Any provider in the US that can match hetzner offers?

    Specifically looking at the following specs:
    Unmetered 1gbit
    Cpu with ~10k passmark
    64gb ram
    2 x 500gb NVMe

    And at hetzner prices? Or even near it?

    Comments

    • MikeAMikeA Member, Provider

      no, literally. 1Gbps unmetered and 64GB RAM are the hard things for a Hetzner budget of $50-$80. If you don't need any DDoS protection look at NocIX.net.

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    • You can look at reliablesite.net ( @MrRadic ) too .

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    • ViridWebViridWeb Member, Provider

      Answer: No (with those specs)

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    • thedpthedp Member

      Tough one, but maybe look around JoesDC to see if there's anything you might like.

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    • deankdeank Member

      In short, don't burn bridges with Hetzner. You might regret it.

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    • @thedp said:
      Tough one, but maybe look around JoesDC to see if there's anything you might like.

      You got any idea about their network quality?

    • MikeAMikeA Member, Provider

      @seriesn said:
      Ovh?

      Not nearly the same price as Hetzner anymore for similar hardware. SoYouStart maybe but he wants 1Gbps not 250Mbps so it's out of the question too probably.

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    • JordJord Moderator, Provider

      Hetzner is prem

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    • thedpthedp Member

      @l2o88j said:

      @thedp said:
      Tough one, but maybe look around JoesDC to see if there's anything you might like.

      You got any idea about their network quality?

      Sorry, I do not. I've never bought anything from them but I know they've been in the industry for quite some time now.

      Maybe someone here does.

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    • I guess hetz is prem.

      Thanks for all the recommendations. Im looking at reliable site, just because of that sweet $19 10gbit. But still far off the price of hetz. Makes me wonder how can hetz offer those price no one can match.

      Thanked by 1Hetzner_OL
    • MrRadicMrRadic Member, Provider

      @kennsann said:
      I guess hetz is prem.

      Thanks for all the recommendations. Im looking at reliable site, just because of that sweet $19 10gbit. But still far off the price of hetz. Makes me wonder how can hetz offer those price no one can match.

      That's what peopled thought about OVH years ago. OVH prices have now significantly increased...

      You can only operate so long with little to no profit.

      Thanked by 1SinSiXX

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    • CConnerCConner Member, Provider

      @MrRadic said:

      @kennsann said:
      I guess hetz is prem.

      Thanks for all the recommendations. Im looking at reliable site, just because of that sweet $19 10gbit. But still far off the price of hetz. Makes me wonder how can hetz offer those price no one can match.

      That's what peopled thought about OVH years ago. OVH prices have now significantly increased...

      You can only operate so long with little to no profit.

      There will always be another one that takes up the slack.

    • @CConner said:

      @MrRadic said:

      @kennsann said:
      I guess hetz is prem.

      Thanks for all the recommendations. Im looking at reliable site, just because of that sweet $19 10gbit. But still far off the price of hetz. Makes me wonder how can hetz offer those price no one can match.

      That's what peopled thought about OVH years ago. OVH prices have now significantly increased...

      You can only operate so long with little to no profit.

      There will always be another one that takes up the slack.

      Looking forward for this next OVH

    • MrRadicMrRadic Member, Provider
      edited February 4

      @nyxynyx said:

      @CConner said:

      @MrRadic said:

      @kennsann said:
      I guess hetz is prem.

      Thanks for all the recommendations. Im looking at reliable site, just because of that sweet $19 10gbit. But still far off the price of hetz. Makes me wonder how can hetz offer those price no one can match.

      That's what peopled thought about OVH years ago. OVH prices have now significantly increased...

      You can only operate so long with little to no profit.

      There will always be another one that takes up the slack.

      Looking forward for this next OVH

      There are tons of providers offering older hardware making little to no profit on it. For latest gen, I doubt it'll happen. OVH left that market when they started bleeding money, Hetzner is the only one left, but you can only go so long on a 24 month ROI when the server has little to no value after 12 months.

      I was saying it about OVH for years, it was only a matter of time before the hundreds of millions they borrowed needed to be repaid....

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    • @MrRadic said:

      @nyxynyx said:

      @CConner said:

      @MrRadic said:

      @kennsann said:
      I guess hetz is prem.

      Thanks for all the recommendations. Im looking at reliable site, just because of that sweet $19 10gbit. But still far off the price of hetz. Makes me wonder how can hetz offer those price no one can match.

      That's what peopled thought about OVH years ago. OVH prices have now significantly increased...

      You can only operate so long with little to no profit.

      There will always be another one that takes up the slack.

      Looking forward for this next OVH

      There are tons of providers offering older hardware making little to no profit on it. For latest gen, I doubt it'll happen. OVH left that market when they started bleeding money, Hetzner is the only one left, but you can only go so long on a 24 month ROI when the server has little to no value after 12 months.

      I was saying it about OVH for years, it was only a matter of time before the hundreds of millions they borrowed needed to be repaid....

      Yeah only thing is OVh hasn't gone anywhere from the "older end" market.

    • zevuszevus Member
      edited February 4

      @MikeA said:
      no, literally. 1Gbps unmetered and 64GB RAM are the hard things for a Hetzner budget of $50-$80. If you don't need any DDoS protection look at NocIX.net.

      I guess there'd be wholesaleinternet too.... didn't they used to be... uh, 'partnered' with datashack/nocix? (ed: or are they just the same listings now and gave up the pretense? lol. spent a minute or so comparing the servers & seem the same, ed2: ah, some things say 'out of stock' on nocix, that aren't on wholesaleinternet .. exact same prices and specs, tho)

    • CConnerCConner Member, Provider
      edited February 4

      Wholesaleinternet is not even in the same realm when it comes to quality compared to Hetzner.

      Thanked by 1Hetzner_OL
    • @CConner said:
      Wholesaleinternet is not even in the same realm when it comes to quality compared to Hetzner.

      Which is the better of the 2?

    • CConnerCConner Member, Provider

      @nyxynyx said:

      @CConner said:
      Wholesaleinternet is not even in the same realm when it comes to quality compared to Hetzner.

      Which is the better of the 2?

      Hetzner

    • @CConner said:

      @nyxynyx said:

      @CConner said:
      Wholesaleinternet is not even in the same realm when it comes to quality compared to Hetzner.

      Which is the better of the 2?

      Hetzner

      How bad is Wholesaleinternet?

    • @MrRadic said:

      @nyxynyx said:

      @CConner said:

      @MrRadic said:

      @kennsann said:
      I guess hetz is prem.

      Thanks for all the recommendations. Im looking at reliable site, just because of that sweet $19 10gbit. But still far off the price of hetz. Makes me wonder how can hetz offer those price no one can match.

      That's what peopled thought about OVH years ago. OVH prices have now significantly increased...

      You can only operate so long with little to no profit.

      There will always be another one that takes up the slack.

      Looking forward for this next OVH

      There are tons of providers offering older hardware making little to no profit on it. For latest gen, I doubt it'll happen. OVH left that market when they started bleeding money, Hetzner is the only one left, but you can only go so long on a 24 month ROI when the server has little to no value after 12 months.

      I was saying it about OVH for years, it was only a matter of time before the hundreds of millions they borrowed needed to be repaid....

      Do servers in general drop drastically in value after about a year? Does this apply to both new and old servers?

    • network33network33 Member
      edited February 5

      There is no counterpart to Hetzner in the US, closest you can get is OVH for more than double the cost.

      Thanked by 1Hetzner_OL
    • OVH has some deals in their US data centers, however I heard the network routing and speed are terrible. Start at $69

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    • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL Member, Provider, Top Provider

      @kennsann Is there a reason that you're a bit hesitant to try us out?

      Because of your comment about our prices, I thought I'd include this article from our wiki: https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Hetzner_Pricing/en
      --Katie

      We (Katie and Helena) will do our best to answer your Hetzner questions and pass on your feedback. Hetzner Online's not liable for any corny jokes that we make. (https://www.hetzner.com)

    • @Hetzner_OL said:
      @kennsann Is there a reason that you're a bit hesitant to try us out?

      Because of your comment about our prices, I thought I'd include this article from our wiki: https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Hetzner_Pricing/en
      --Katie

      No no no. Don't get me wrong Katie, the reason is just that I need an LA server since I really have bad peering with Germany.

      I actually ordered an AX41 two days ago. Still waiting on it, says on your status page that it might take 10 working days. :neutral:

    • He's a MAGA fella.

      Kidding... when you have a server you want it to be as geographically close as possible to your audience/users, I think that's the reason why he wants an US server.

      Hetzner is the ALDI/LIDL of servers (I get back slowly and imagine all non-europeans LET users googling about these, eheheheh).

    • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL Member, Provider, Top Provider

      @kennsann - Oh, great! That model's in pretty high demand at the moment. We're sorry for the delay. The demand is really much higher than our optimisstic estimates. Our team is working at top speed.

      @DrCornFlakes - I know that latency can affect your provider choice. We have a growing number of customers in the US. I should have just asked what his use case was. ;)
      I think some larger US cities might already have a few ALDI and LIDL stores ;) --Katie

      We (Katie and Helena) will do our best to answer your Hetzner questions and pass on your feedback. Hetzner Online's not liable for any corny jokes that we make. (https://www.hetzner.com)

    • @Hetzner_OL said:
      I think some larger US cities might already have a few ALDI and LIDL stores ;) --Katie

      Can confirm. And not just large cities anymore :)

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    • CConnerCConner Member, Provider
      edited February 6

      @Hetzner_OL said:
      @kennsann - Oh, great! That model's in pretty high demand at the moment. We're sorry for the delay. The demand is really much higher than our optimisstic estimates. Our team is working at top speed.

      @DrCornFlakes - I know that latency can affect your provider choice. We have a growing number of customers in the US. I should have just asked what his use case was. ;)
      I think some larger US cities might already have a few ALDI and LIDL stores ;) --Katie

      When's Hetzner coming to the US? You can't tell me that you won't do it because ALDI and LIDL are already there.

    • 4d4m4d4m Member

      @CConner said:

      @Hetzner_OL said:
      @kennsann - Oh, great! That model's in pretty high demand at the moment. We're sorry for the delay. The demand is really much higher than our optimisstic estimates. Our team is working at top speed.

      @DrCornFlakes - I know that latency can affect your provider choice. We have a growing number of customers in the US. I should have just asked what his use case was. ;)
      I think some larger US cities might already have a few ALDI and LIDL stores ;) --Katie

      When's Hetzner coming to the US? You can't tell me that you won't do it because ALDI and LIDL are already there.

      ALDI and LIDL are all over the US, not just big cities. I have them deliver to my house and office via Instacart because it's cheap af and I'm lazy af.

      I would welcome the hosting industry version here as well. You would crush providers like ovh.us, just like ALDI and LIDL are crushing the average grocery store.

    • DrCornFlakesDrCornFlakes Member
      edited February 6

      Didn't realize that LIDL and ALDI were already present and with such number of stores in the US.

      Didn't also realize that LIDL has its own TLD! That was a surprise...

    • @DrCornFlakes said:
      Didn't realize that LIDL and ALDI were already present and with such number of stores in the US.

      Didn't also realize that LIDL has its own TLD! That was a surprise...

      Derailed to LIDL and ALDI, thanks @DrCornFlakes :joy:

    • bob1bob1 Member

      @CConner said:

      @Hetzner_OL said:
      @kennsann - Oh, great! That model's in pretty high demand at the moment. We're sorry for the delay. The demand is really much higher than our optimisstic estimates. Our team is working at top speed.

      @DrCornFlakes - I know that latency can affect your provider choice. We have a growing number of customers in the US. I should have just asked what his use case was. ;)
      I think some larger US cities might already have a few ALDI and LIDL stores ;) --Katie

      When's Hetzner coming to the US? You can't tell me that you won't do it because ALDI and LIDL are already there.

      Bandwidth/land/labor are more expensive in the US. Even OVH servers in the US are more expensive than their EU counterparts.

    • angeliusangelius Member
      edited February 7

      I would gladely pay a 10-15€ premium per server to have dedicated on hetzner US location

      @Hetzner_OL don't be shy and launch in the US you will crush the market and make millions in the first month :)

    • CConnerCConner Member, Provider

      @bob1 said:

      @CConner said:

      @Hetzner_OL said:
      @kennsann - Oh, great! That model's in pretty high demand at the moment. We're sorry for the delay. The demand is really much higher than our optimisstic estimates. Our team is working at top speed.

      @DrCornFlakes - I know that latency can affect your provider choice. We have a growing number of customers in the US. I should have just asked what his use case was. ;)
      I think some larger US cities might already have a few ALDI and LIDL stores ;) --Katie

      When's Hetzner coming to the US? You can't tell me that you won't do it because ALDI and LIDL are already there.

      Bandwidth/land/labor are more expensive in the US. Even OVH servers in the US are more expensive than their EU counterparts.

      All depends on where you put your datacenter, same for the EU I suppose.

    • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL Member, Provider, Top Provider

      Unlike a lot of other companies, we don't have external investors. There's some nice advantages to this. It means that we can make decisions more quickly, and we don't have to worry about those investors' profit margins. Instead, we can re-invest directly in the company. The downside is that we need to be cautious when we expand. In addition, when we expand, we want to make sure the quality of our services remains high. So, in general, when we open a new DC park -- wherever that may be -- we want to be sure it's there to stay. --Katie

      We (Katie and Helena) will do our best to answer your Hetzner questions and pass on your feedback. Hetzner Online's not liable for any corny jokes that we make. (https://www.hetzner.com)

    • uptimeuptime Member
      edited February 7

      @kennsann said:
      How bad is Wholesaleinternet?

      3.6 roentgen ...

      (I think they're generally okay - depending on your definition of okay.)

      @kennsann on rare occasions @qps has some nice deals in Los Angeles location.

      They are quality potassium.

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    • dahartigandahartigan Member
      edited February 7

      @uptime said:

      @kennsann said:
      How bad is Wholesaleinternet?

      3.6 roentgen ...

      Not great, not terrible.

      (I think they're generally okay - depending on your definition of okay.)

      @kennsann on rare occasions @qps has some nice deals in Los Angeles location.

      They are quality potassium.

      Nothing beats hetzner potassium. Premium German engineered potassium reaktor would never break and if it did there would be billions of roentgen released from the potassium cores.

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    • qpsqps Member, Provider

      uptime said: @qps has some nice deals in Los Angeles location.

      Thanks - yes, QuickPacket has deals from time to time. We have a Dual E5-2620v2 deal in Charlotte that we posted here a few days ago.

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    • pikepike Member

      My guess is the first Hetzner datacenter park in north america will be in Canada.

    • @pike said:
      My guess is the first Hetzner datacenter park in north america will be in Canada.

      If that's the case, make it Vancouver BC. OVH is on the East already. As much as I'd rather see Hetzner NA, I'd at least like a couple of geographic options.

    • oneilonlineoneilonline Member, Provider

      @zevus said:

      @MikeA said:
      no, literally. 1Gbps unmetered and 64GB RAM are the hard things for a Hetzner budget of $50-$80. If you don't need any DDoS protection look at NocIX.net.

      I guess there'd be wholesaleinternet too.... didn't they used to be... uh, 'partnered' with datashack/nocix? (ed: or are they just the same listings now and gave up the pretense? lol. spent a minute or so comparing the servers & seem the same, ed2: ah, some things say 'out of stock' on nocix, that aren't on wholesaleinternet .. exact same prices and specs, tho)

      Yea, wholesaleinternet, Joes datacenter, noxious, datashack, they're all in the same building, same network = same quality. I think they would need to tear up the fiber optic cables and start from scratch to improve their network quality. I'm not sure why it's so poor there.

      Thanked by 1zevus
    • MrRadicMrRadic Member, Provider

      Joes and WSI/NOCIX aren't in the same building. Same city, but I believe WSI/NOCIX either moved out of the tower or have only a small part of their equipment there.

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