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    Black Friday 2019: 100 GB SSD storage - 4,95 EUR monthly

    PHP_FriendsPHP_Friends Member, Provider
    edited November 2019 in Offers

    Hi,

    our Black Friday offer is online:

    • Intel Xeon E5 CPU
    • 2 cores (host-passthrough & nested virtualization)
    • 6 GB ECC RAM
    • 100 GB SSD storage (RAID-10 via SAS)
    • 1 Gbps

    6 months contract / billing period (-> 29,70 EUR recurring). The VAT is now removed automatically for non-EU citizens, without VAT the recurring price is 24,96 EUR.

    Like our regular offers & specials we only use "real" server hardware with redundant power supplies and redundant network in the First Colo datacenter in Frankfurt (FFM). Of course our DDoS protection is included for free :)

    The product: https://php-friends.de/vserver-ssd/vserver-black-friday-2019-ssd
    The news (German): https://php-friends.de/neuigkeiten/black-friday-2019

    Enjoy it! :)

    Best Regards,
    Tim

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    Comments

    • moar cores if you already added moar ram in comparison to few hours ago offer!
      Thanks :mrgreen:

    • Any bench?

    • what mean 100 GB SSD storage (RAID-10 via SAS) ???
      RAID-10 via SASЮ???
      @PHP_Friends

    • What's the stock like for this offer? :)

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    • PHP_FriendsPHP_Friends Member, Provider

      @ofit said:
      what mean 100 GB SSD storage (RAID-10 via SAS) ???
      RAID-10 via SASЮ???
      @PHP_Friends

      Up to 16 SSDs per node connected via SAS combined in a RAID-10.

      (Not sure if I understand the question.)

    • Anyone have PHP-Friends Looking Glass?

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    • any benchmark?
      detached cores?
      @PHP_Friends😊

    • @thedp said:
      Anyone have PHP-Friends Looking Glass?

      http://lg.first-colo.net/

      Thanked by 1PHP_Friends
    • Can I do a direct credit card payment? If so can I dm the order number...

    • Hi @PHP_Friends

      Your got a great BF 2019 offer there. But will this be ever made available again?

      https://php-friends.de/vserver-ssd/vserver-schnupperspecial-2019-ssd-g2

    • @PHP_Friends said:

      @ofit said:
      what mean 100 GB SSD storage (RAID-10 via SAS) ???
      RAID-10 via SASЮ???
      @PHP_Friends

      Up to 16 SSDs per node connected via SAS combined in a RAID-10.

      (Not sure if I understand the question.)

      Thought it was a mix of SSD and SAS disks

    • PHP_FriendsPHP_Friends Member, Provider

      @ofit said:
      Thought it was a mix of SSD and SAS disks

      No, it doesn't get that dirty :D

    • PHP_FriendsPHP_Friends Member, Provider

      @geekhost said:
      Can I do a direct credit card payment? If so can I dm the order number...

      Only via PayPal, sorry.

    • usr23usr23 Member
      edited November 2019

      @ofit said:

      @PHP_Friends said:

      @ofit said:
      what mean 100 GB SSD storage (RAID-10 via SAS) ???
      RAID-10 via SASЮ???
      @PHP_Friends

      Up to 16 SSDs per node connected via SAS combined in a RAID-10.

      (Not sure if I understand the question.)

      Thought it was a mix of SSD and SAS disks

      From their news section:

      That's why we're using up to 16 Datacenter SSDs per host, purchased specifically for Black Friday and coming from the latest generation of Samsung. These are connected via fast SAS controllers.

      Edit: And SAS is a protocol, not a specific type of disk.

      Thanked by 1PHP_Friends
    • PHP_FriendsPHP_Friends Member, Provider

      @akb said:
      Hi @PHP_Friends

      Your got a great BF 2019 offer there. But will this be ever made available again?

      https://php-friends.de/vserver-ssd/vserver-schnupperspecial-2019-ssd-g2

      If we have enough resources in the used hardware generation that would be possible, but currently the resources are sold for at least 6 months (and as we don't receive many cancellations in general I don't think we will have enough resources available in 6 months already).

    • PHP_FriendsPHP_Friends Member, Provider
      edited November 2019

      @usr23 said:
      From their news section:

      That's why we're using up to 16 Datacenter SSDs per host, purchased specifically for Black Friday and coming from the latest generation of Samsung. These are connected via fast SAS controllers.

      Edit: And SAS is a protocol, not a specific type of disk.

      Thanks for the great translation. That's right. However some providers consider SAS drives as HDDs which is simply wrong. We mean the protocol only as a dedicated PCI Express SAS controller with enough fast datacenter SSDs really makes fun. Way faster than SATA (which is fine for a few SSDs but not for that amount) if you are using the right backplane :)

      Thanked by 1datanoise
    • @PHP_Friends said:

      @usr23 said:
      From their news section:

      That's why we're using up to 16 Datacenter SSDs per host, purchased specifically for Black Friday and coming from the latest generation of Samsung. These are connected via fast SAS controllers.

      Edit: And SAS is a protocol, not a specific type of disk.

      Thanks for the great translation.

      I wish it were my translation. Google Translate is getting better and better. So not much work done :smile:

      We mean the protocol only as a dedicated PCI Express SAS controller with enough fast datacenter SSDs really makes fun.

      That is how you separate the good from the bad provider. Someone said: nerd catnip :smiley:

      And thank you for the great offer by the way.

    • interesting...

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    • zxxxzxxx Member
      edited November 2019

      @PHP_Friends
      Is each CPU core dedicated?

    • +1

    • +1

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    • PHP_FriendsPHP_Friends Member, Provider

      @zxxx said:
      Is each CPU core dedicated?

      No, the cores are not dedicated this time. Of course we make sure that the nodes don't get overloaded, but as this is a completely new product (older CPUs + new SSDs = cheap Black Friday deal with a lot of fast storage :D) we don't have much experience yet with this exact hardware / offer combination so we don't want to guarantee more than we can. I personally think that you won't experience more steal time than on our servers with dedicated courses, but currently we don't know it for sure.

    • that's sad news, it's supposed to be your the best deal of the year, not the worst

      do you offer a refund?

    • @SpeedTest said:
      that's sad news, it's supposed to be your the best deal of the year, not the worst

      do you offer a refund?

      Indeed, i‘m glad i didn‘t purchase it.

      Thanked by 1webcraft
    • hzrhzr Member, Moderator

      64~128gb ram VPS next offer cyber monday?

    • @PHP_Friends said:

      @zxxx said:
      Is each CPU core dedicated?

      No, the cores are not dedicated this time. Of course we make sure that the nodes don't get overloaded, but as this is a completely new product (older CPUs + new SSDs = cheap Black Friday deal with a lot of fast storage :D) we don't have much experience yet with this exact hardware / offer combination so we don't want to guarantee more than we can. I personally think that you won't experience more steal time than on our servers with dedicated courses, but currently we don't know it for sure.

      Thanks.

    • LET style: provider raises price = BAD, provider experiments with higher density to provide a smaller price = BAD

      What the fuck is wrong with you.

    • hzrhzr Member, Moderator

      pike said: What the fuck is wrong with you.

      provider being sustainable = BAD

    • @pike said:
      LET style: provider raises price = BAD, provider experiments with higher density to provide a smaller price = BAD

      What the fuck is wrong with you.

      No one has problems with that, but if you offer regular only dedicated cores, you should at least mention it.

    • Does anyone know the cancellation policy of PHP-Friends?

    • pkr said: Does anyone know the cancellation policy of PHP-Friends?

      Do not drop PHP-Friends for that LEB thing you posted in other thread. The guy running that company is the guy that was running AlphaRacks. You really don't want that deal, avoid it.

    • @JabJab said:

      pkr said: Does anyone know the cancellation policy of PHP-Friends?

      Do not drop PHP-Friends for that LEB thing you posted in other thread. The guy running that company is the guy that was running AlphaRacks. You really don't want that deal, avoid it.

      My wallet has been burnt by SSDnodes, so I am not purchasing anything now. Thanks for letting us know that the guy was running AlphaRacks.

    • JabJab said: The guy running that company is the guy that was running AlphaRacks. You really don't want that deal, avoid it.

      Is that true?

      don't buy what you don't need: you'll save money and will end up able to grab a quality VPS when really needed.

    • PHP_FriendsPHP_Friends Member, Provider

      @drivex said:
      No one has problems with that, but if you offer regular only dedicated cores, you should at least mention it.

      Sorry if this led to irritations. We do absolutely not offer dedicated cores here. The term "dedicated" is mentioned twice on our regular offers / product pages - dedicated resources and dedicated cores - which we explicitly don't mention here. Also we don't specify a specific CPU model, so even if the cores were dedicated you could get a different performance from different orders as we use several CPUs here. Any feedback on how we could make this more clear on our website for further offers is highly appreciated.

      Actually I think that 4,19 EUR (without VAT) per month is a fair price for 100 GB fast SSD storage and 6 GB ECC RAM, so for a product where storage (amount & performance) is the main goal. The product is not meant to be a CPU flagship.

      However, we are known for making our customers happy and we don't want any of you to be disappointed. So here's my promise for all Lowendtalk members: Should you experience any steal above 1-3% average, please send me a message here on LET, and we will set up a special node for this purpose on which the cores will be dedicated for you.

      Like I said I'm pretty sure that this won't be necessary. We just don't want to promise dedicated cores before we know exactly how this works out. If we did, it would be worse for sure, wouldn't it?

      Best Regards,
      Tim

    • PHP_FriendsPHP_Friends Member, Provider

      @hzr said:
      64~128gb ram VPS next offer cyber monday?

      Would that be interesting for more users? Could be an idea for our yearly winter special. To get tons of RAM till monday will be too hard :D

    • PHP_FriendsPHP_Friends Member, Provider

      @JabJab said:

      pkr said: Does anyone know the cancellation policy of PHP-Friends?

      Do not drop PHP-Friends for that LEB thing you posted in other thread. The guy running that company is the guy that was running AlphaRacks. You really don't want that deal, avoid it.

      I'm sorry, I can't follow here, could both of you clarify this? :)

    • hzrhzr Member, Moderator

      PHP_Friends said: Would that be interesting for more users? Could be an idea for our yearly winter special. To get tons of RAM till monday will be too hard :D

      I would like a big chungus with nested virt to play with docker swarm on.

      PHP_Friends said: I'm sorry, I can't follow here, could both of you clarify this? :)

      He posted about a different, much better offer, but it is run by a more questionable person and is a brand new host. It is not related to you and is a compliment for you.

    • PHP_FriendsPHP_Friends Member, Provider
      edited November 2019

      @datanoise said:

      JabJab said: The guy running that company is the guy that was running AlphaRacks. You really don't want that deal, avoid it.

      Is that true?

      I'm still not sure if I'm getting this completely wrong, but no, we never had any other label than PHP-Friends. Never heard of AlphaRacks before, sorry.

      Edit: Thanks @hzr for explaining.

      Thanked by 1datanoise
    • datanoisedatanoise Member
      edited November 2019

      Thanks @hzr this makes more sense, I got it wrong as well and I couldn't understand the magic behind this affirmation.

      don't buy what you don't need: you'll save money and will end up able to grab a quality VPS when really needed.

    • SpeedTestSpeedTest Member
      edited November 2019

      PHP_Friends said: The product is not meant to be a CPU flagship

      yep. the CPU is somewhat disappointing and this node is't even under load

      what's your refund policy for this deal? I would rather skip it :(

      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
       Speedtest Monster v.1.4.6 2019-10-29 
       Region: Europe  https://bench.monster/speedtest.html
       Usage : curl -LsO bench.monster/speedtest.sh; bash speedtest.sh -Europe
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
       OS           : CentOS 7.7.1908 (64 Bit)
       Virt/Kernel  : KVM / 3.10.0-229.el7.x86_64
       CPU Model    : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2620 v2 @ 2.10GHz
       CPU Cores    : 2 @ 2099.934 MHz x86_64 16384 KB Cache
       CPU Flags    : AES-NI Enabled & VM-x/AMD-V Enabled
       Load Average : 0.71, 0.82, 0.40
       Total Space  : 98G (1.8G ~2% used)
       Total RAM    : 139 MB / 5807 MB (1573 MB Buff)
       Total SWAP   : 0 MB / 1023 MB
       Uptime       : 0 days 0:7
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
       ASN & ISP    : AS44066, First Colo GmbH
       Organization : PHP Friends
       Location     : Frankfurt am Main, Germany / DE
       Region       : Hesse
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
      
       ## Geekbench v4 CPU Benchmark:
      
        Single Core : 2321  (GOOD)
         Multi Core : 4128
      
       ## IO Test
      
       CPU Speed:
          bzip2     :  76 MB/s
         sha256     : 200 MB/s
         md5sum     : 361 MB/s
      
       RAM Speed:
         Avg. write : 1641.7 MB/s
         Avg. read  : 5051.7 MB/s
      
       Disk Speed:
         1st run    : 654 MB/s
         2nd run    : 625 MB/s
         3rd run    : 651 MB/s
         -----------------------
         Average    : 643.3 MB/s
      
       ## Europe Speedtest
      
       Location                         Upload           Download         Ping   
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
       Speedtest.net                    712.76 Mbit/s    913.36 Mbit/s     9.148 ms
       Ireland, Dublin (Digiweb)        421.15 Mbit/s    349.53 Mbit/s    27.704 ms
       UK, London (Community Fibre)     289.64 Mbit/s    440.98 Mbit/s    16.205 ms
       Netherlands, Amsterdam (MaxiTEL) 427.15 Mbit/s    432.50 Mbit/s    19.386 ms
       Germany, Berlin (DNS:NET)        415.17 Mbit/s    596.55 Mbit/s    13.885 ms
       Germany, Munich (InterNetX)      768.87 Mbit/s    1169.97 Mbit/s    5.967 ms
       Denmark, Copenhagen (Fiberby)    325.68 Mbit/s    492.29 Mbit/s     6.344 ms
       Sweden, Stockholm (SUNET)        235.31 Mbit/s    401.32 Mbit/s    22.087 ms
       Norway, Oslo (NextGenTel)        270.66 Mbit/s    398.34 Mbit/s    23.225 ms
       France, Lyon (SFR)               578.01 Mbit/s    607.49 Mbit/s    14.768 ms
       Spain, Madrid (Adamo)            238.98 Mbit/s    123.77 Mbit/s    39.197 ms
       Portugal, Lisbon (Evolute)       197.47 Mbit/s    466.50 Mbit/s    41.599 ms
       Italy, Rome (Unidata)            396.11 Mbit/s    461.12 Mbit/s    19.336 ms
       Austria, Vienna (Magenta)        205.83 Mbit/s    468.16 Mbit/s    13.529 ms
       Poland, Warsaw (Orange)          112.60 Mbit/s    316.90 Mbit/s    18.047 ms
       Slovakia, Kosice (ANTIK)         446.05 Mbit/s    414.47 Mbit/s    29.500 ms
       Ukraine, Kyiv (KyivStar)         222.99 Mbit/s    500.80 Mbit/s    32.197 ms
       Latvia, Riga (Bite)              157.15 Mbit/s    183.00 Mbit/s    28.361 ms
       Russia, St.Petersburg (Prometey) 139.47 Mbit/s    324.29 Mbit/s    30.079 ms
       Russia, Moscow (MTS)             324.90 Mbit/s    355.15 Mbit/s    36.927 ms
       Romania, Bucharest (Orange)      387.93 Mbit/s    337.82 Mbit/s    27.350 ms
       Greece, Athens (GRNET)           150.54 Mbit/s    272.51 Mbit/s    54.967 ms
       Turkey, Istanbul (Radore)        110.85 Mbit/s    255.02 Mbit/s    44.375 ms
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
      
       Finished in : 9 min 36 sec
       Timestamp   : 2019-11-30 03:56:33 GMT
      
       Share results:
       - https://www.speedtest.net/result/8809095197.png
       - https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/14982209
      
      
      
      
      curl -LsO bench.monster/speedtest.sh; bash speedtest.sh -disk
      -------------------------------------------------------------
      
       Disk Write Speed:
      
         1st run    : 211 MB/s
         2nd run    : 213 MB/s
         3rd run    : 213 MB/s
         -----------------------
         Average    : 212.333 MB/s
      
       Disk Read Speed:
      
         1st run    : 581.937 MB/s
         2nd run    : 561.713 MB/s
         3rd run    : 574.719 MB/s
         -----------------------
         Average    : 572.79 MB/s
      
    • This is an excellent deal, people. It is just that it isn't standing out compared to other Black Friday crazy pricing but it is a steal at any other day of the year. Just because the price isn't half as crazy does not mean it is a bad deal.

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    • You're happily pumping 300+Mbit/s across all eurasia on a 5€/m VPS while being behind a OVH-GAME level firewall and youre complaining about what? Disappointing CPU? Better get that Widerruf done, this is not for you.

    • Control panel shows Bandwidth 5TB. But your website shows "Traffic kostenlos". So does it unlimited or not?

    • @Yusum said:
      Control panel shows Bandwidth 5TB. But your website shows "Traffic kostenlos". So does it unlimited or not?

      Will not be suspended but throttled at 10 mbits after 5tb..

      Thanked by 1Yusum

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    • hzrhzr Member, Moderator

      Yusum said: Control panel shows Bandwidth 5TB. But your website shows "Traffic kostenlos". So does it unlimited or not?

      after 5tb it is 10mbit, it is still cost los :)

      Thanked by 2Yusum vimalware
    • Hi Folks,

      This can't be posted where it should be, since I'm not a provider but I just wanted to share this great deal from @PHP_Friends with you all. It's the slightly "mini" version of the "vServer Black Friday 2019" package which they have released on Black Friday and I figured that some of you might want/need this, especially those who missed Black Friday and Cyber Monday, for who knows what reason(s) :joy:

      Virtualization: KVM
      Processor: Intel Xeon E5-CPU
      CPU: 1
      RAM: 4GB ECC RAM
      Disk: 50GB SSD
      Network: 500 MBit/s
      DDoS Protection: Yes
      IP: IPv4 + IPv6 (/64) with RDNS Support
      Contract: 12 Months
      

      Price: €29.70/year (Inclusive of 19% VAT)
      Order Link: https://php-friends.de/add-to-cart/id:148

      If you're not from the EU, VAT will be excluded automatically at checkout.

      There'll be only 50 of these :)

      Enjoy! :)

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    • PHP_FriendsPHP_Friends Member, Provider
      edited December 2019

      Hi,

      to quickly answer a few questions / critic points:

      1) We don't have a "refund policy", in Germany we have excellent (consumer-friendly) laws for that and we strictly stick to them. So every private person has the right to revoke a contract within 14 days. There are a few exceptions which don't are relevant here.

      2) If someone considers 5 TB traffic as too few, that's fine, but we can't change it. Our experience shows that 99% of our customers don't even need more than 1 TB. That's no exaggeration. We have that few amount of customers with traffic over usage that we didn't even implement an automatic process for throttling these VMs. It's simply not necessary.

      If we offer a server with 1 Gbps bandwidth, you can always use it. As long as you don't consume more traffic than we have defined. I know that there are providers who will tell you about "unlimited" traffic, but there is no such thing as unlimited traffic. At the very latest the switch port defines how much traffic you can make. And if the provider doesn't define what bandwidth he guarantees, you simply - sorry - can't give a shit about that "unlimited" traffic. We don't like that way of hosting, but we like to tell our customers clearly what they can expect from our service (and what they can't).

      Another popular form of "unlimited" traffic is (for example) do define a port speed of 1 Gbps, a guarantee way less (let's say 200 Mbps) and a small text with several special cases in which you will be throttled to an undefined bandwidth for an undefined period of time. Of course we don't like that either.

      Long story short: Good traffic costs money and I don't know a single provider in our data centre (First Colo) who can include that amount of traffic like we do. There might be a reason for that - maybe 5 TB isn't that few :)

      By the way, even with only 10 Mbps you can use 6,48 TB per month (+ your regular full speed traffic).

      3) I have pointed out clearly why we don't offer dedicated cores here. And to be honest, even if I'm making myself unpopular with this opinion, I don't think that anyone can expect 2 dedicated cores for that price. Yes, some providers will do that for promotional reasons, and that's fine, but we all have to earn money and I clearly tell you that this is impossible with dedicated cores at that price. If you use old(er) CPUs, they have too few cores; if you use new(er) CPUs, they have enough cores, but are too expensive to get ever refinanced by a 4,16 EUR product.

      By the way, this is the load of one full Black Friday node:

      You won't see any steal time within the VMs for sure. But again, as long as we don't have enough experience with this setup yet, we won't talk about dedicated cores.

      Best Regards,
      Tim

    • tgltgl Member
      edited December 2019

      thank you @PHP_Friends for this clear answer, even if it was not needed, some times being honest it seems hurts, some people want to be lied to so they feel good about themselves

      I bought already two instances (one from the last offer, that schupperspecial) and one this black friday, both perform very well

      I can say that in my opinion @PHP_Friends is a very good provider considering the price/specs ratio, the specs are good, he's also being honest what he's offering, instead of hyping it up to catch the dumb fish

      it seems some people are never happy

      just my two eurocents

    • I can also only say that @PHP_Friends is very good. I have the 'Schnupperspecial' server and contacted them about some performance issues on that. Was solved within one hour after opening the ticket.

      Very good provider. Definitely worth the money.

    • ofitofit Member
      edited December 2019

      @PHP_Friends Hello. Do you have Snapshots for your offers?

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