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  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member

    @blsqls said:

    @blsqls said:
    Is it possible to run an Android emulator with an Always Free Ampere A1 instance? Looking on Google to find some instructions but can't. There is a Genymotion thing on marketplace but I think that can't be used with Always Free right? Can someone give some insight?

    no idea anyone?

    What's stopping you from trying?

  • webmasterofferswebmasteroffers Member

    I always use the commands below to open ports on Oracle Cloud Free Tier

    sudo iptables -I INPUT 6 -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
sudo iptables -I INPUT 6 -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
sudo netfilter-persistent save
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  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member
    edited November 2021

    @webmasteroffers said:
    I always use the commands below to open ports on Oracle Cloud Free Tier

    sudo iptables -I INPUT 6 -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
sudo iptables -I INPUT 6 -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
sudo netfilter-persistent save

    That'll do sweet fuck all to Oracle's firewall that actually needs to be configured to be opened. Well, it'll waste CPU cycles, so knock yourself out.

    (If you can offload your firewall to external hardware, you generally don't and shouldn't also run a redundant software firewall.)

    Edit: Jesus Christ, how is text editing iptables still a thing in 2021?

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited November 2021

    @TimboJones said: (If you can offload your firewall to external hardware, you generally don't and shouldn't also run a redundant software firewall.)

    Talking in "smart terms" there is "defense in depth" which means that you still should.

    Speaking more simply, I would not rely on Oracle not glitching out and not actually applying their firewall rules after some "cloud-based" malfunction (and for days, with no one noticing or caring). I.e. if it truly matters that something is firewalled-off, better do so within the VPS [as well], not rely on the provider. The CPU load should be negligible, and you are rarely CPU-bound in typical network-related tasks anyway.

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  • codelockcodelock Member

    I got a vps with two core in the always free tier? What should I do?
    In pannel it still shows 1 core 1 gb ram and always free eligible but , when I logged into the vps it is a 2 core 1 gb ram vps ,as seen in htop and yabs will post benchmark later

  • contactwajeehcontactwajeeh Member

    @codelock said:
    I got a vps with two core in the always free tier? What should I do?
    In pannel it still shows 1 core 1 gb ram and always free eligible but , when I logged into the vps it is a 2 core 1 gb ram vps ,as seen in htop and yabs will post benchmark later

    That is 2 threads I believe, 1OCPU = 2 Threads

  • cadddrcadddr Member
    edited November 2021

    https://www.oracle.com/in/cloud/compute/pricing.html

    Look at the notes.. 1 OCPU x86 = 2 VCPU, which is what you see. Realistically none of these mean anything and you need to test your workload. The x86 free-tier is throttled aggressively.

    You are more likely to hit the network limits before though, last i tested i couldn't do more than 50mbps.

  • OujiOuji Member

    @cadddr said: You are more likely to hit the network limits before though, last i tested i couldn't do more than 50mbps.

    For the x86 yes, this is the maximum bw you will ge getting. For ARM you usually get 1Gbps for each core, so if you make one with all 4 cores you are supposed to get 4Gbps.

  • AXYZEAXYZE Member

    @codelock said:
    I got a vps with two core in the always free tier? What should I do?
    In pannel it still shows 1 core 1 gb ram and always free eligible but , when I logged into the vps it is a 2 core 1 gb ram vps ,as seen in htop and yabs will post benchmark later

    It is 1/8 OCPU.
    OCPU = 1 physical core = 1 core & 2 threads.
    But its 1/8 OCPU so your performance is limited to 1/8 performance of real physical core, so in Geekbench 5 you will get 300 score in both single and multithreaded.

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  • AXYZEAXYZE Member
    edited November 2021

    @cadddr said:
    https://www.oracle.com/in/cloud/compute/pricing.html

    Look at the notes.. 1 OCPU x86 = 2 VCPU, which is what you see. Realistically none of these mean anything and you need to test your workload. The x86 free-tier is throttled aggressively.

    You are more likely to hit the network limits before though, last i tested i couldn't do more than 50mbps.

    @Ouji said:

    @cadddr said: You are more likely to hit the network limits before though, last i tested i couldn't do more than 50mbps.

    For the x86 yes, this is the maximum bw you will ge getting. For ARM you usually get 1Gbps for each core, so if you make one with all 4 cores you are supposed to get 4Gbps.

    x86:
    480Mbps inside Oracle datacenter (server to server)
    50Mbps outside Oracle datacenter, public traffic

    4core ARM:
    4Gbps inside Oracle datacenter
    1Gbps outside Oracle datacenter

    They do it this way because of faster networking inside Oracle youre more likely to get more Oracle instances/services (because they work faster together).

  • nanankcorneringnanankcornering Member

    just registered for an account.

    how long does it take to be accepted? or usually it's instant?

  • suyadi92suyadi92 Member

    Stuck at the credit card info page, they reject mine
    OK nevermind :*

  • RedSoxRedSox Member
    edited November 2021

    Del

  • theuniversestheuniverses Member

    @Hakim said:

    @AXYZE said: The question is - are we, as free tier users allowed to use this without cost? I couldn't find any info about limits for free tier or maybe my Google is broken lol. For "normal users" this faster storage is more expensive. Anybody tried it for longer time?

    I am using Ultra High Performance(UHP) from when they first introduce it. I am in always the free tier now. I asked support about it while I was on the free trial. Their response was like If I can use UHP while in the free tier, then it's included in the free tier. They couldn't provide a specific response.

    Did anyone ever find out if UHP on the boot volume is free/included with the free tier?

  • CrabCrab Member

    @theuniverses said:

    I am using Ultra High Performance(UHP) from when they first introduce it. I am in always the free tier now. I asked support about it while I was on the free trial. Their response was like If I can use UHP while in the free tier, then it's included in the free tier. They couldn't provide a specific response.

    Did anyone ever find out if UHP on the boot volume is free/included with the free tier?

    Yes I have maxed it out on a free tier and seems to be working just fine.

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  • jfzanatojfzanato Member

    Compute instances have a bandwidth limit, but what happens if is the limit is over? Is the instance turn off? Can they bill my credit card even if is the free tier? I'm worried about that because as a newbie, I'm afraid of a DDoS or something like that.

  • xaocxaoc Member

    @jfzanato said:
    Compute instances have a bandwidth limit, but what happens if is the limit is over? Is the instance turn off? Can they bill my credit card even if is the free tier? I'm worried about that because as a newbie, I'm afraid of a DDoS or something like that.

    Yer payment details are not stored unless you upgrade billing(when you need to specify payment details again). They have DDoS protection.

  • 31core31core Member

    Why my virtual VISA credit card couldn't pass Oracle's credit card verity?

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  • AXYZEAXYZE Member

    @31core said:
    Why my virtual VISA credit card couldn't pass Oracle's credit card verity?

    Thanks for reaching out to official LET Oracle Cloud support!
    The reason is: your risk factor of abusing is too high. It may or may not do something with MJJs making 10 accounts with virtual cards.

    Best Regards,
    company that killed Java.

    Thanked by 3SpeedTest niknar1900 abbyck
  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member

    @31core said:
    Why my virtual VISA credit card couldn't pass Oracle's credit card verity?

    One guess, virtual credit card.

  • farsighterfarsighter Member

    @31core said:
    Why my virtual VISA credit card couldn't pass Oracle's credit card verity?

    Because they don't want anons.
    Because the risk you're posing is not virtual.
    Because they can haha

  • xiaoyangxiaoyang Member

    I can't register :'(

  • ollietrexollietrex Member 
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
#              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
#                     v2021-12-03                    #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

Mon Dec 20 09:45:19 UTC 2021

ARM compatibility is considered *experimental*

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Processor  : Neoverse-N1
CPU cores  : 4 @ ??? MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
RAM        : 23.3 GiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       : 145.3 GiB

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 19.14 MB/s    (4.7k) | 37.13 MB/s     (580)
Write      | 19.13 MB/s    (4.7k) | 38.23 MB/s     (597)
Total      | 38.28 MB/s    (9.5k) | 75.37 MB/s    (1.1k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 34.64 MB/s      (67) | 34.26 MB/s      (33)
Write      | 37.60 MB/s      (73) | 38.22 MB/s      (37)
Total      | 72.25 MB/s     (140) | 72.48 MB/s      (70)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
                |                           |                 |
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.02 Gbits/sec  | 1.01 Gbits/sec
Online.net      | Paris, FR (10G)           | 1.01 Gbits/sec  | 1.01 Gbits/sec
WorldStream     | The Netherlands (10G)     | 1.02 Gbits/sec  | 1.01 Gbits/sec
WebHorizon      | Singapore (1G)            | 98.5 Mbits/sec  | 343 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 762 Mbits/sec   | 594 Mbits/sec
Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 580 Mbits/sec   | 419 Mbits/sec
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 522 Mbits/sec   | 342 Mbits/sec
Iveloz Telecom  | Sao Paulo, BR (2G)        | 79.2 Mbits/sec  | 132 Mbits/sec

    This is one of the 4 core / 24 gigs of RAM machines in London. The disk is really slow but not bad or free :-)

  • VoidVoid Member

    Those who bought it, do you know if you exceed the 'free' limit you would get charged automatically? Or the usage gets restricted beyond the free limit automatically?

  • dragon1993dragon1993 Member

    @TimboJones said:

    (If you can offload your firewall to external hardware, you generally don't and shouldn't also run a redundant software firewall.)

    Edit: Jesus Christ, how is text editing iptables still a thing in 2021?

    Quote

    @ollietrex said:
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    # Yet-Another-Bench-Script #
    # v2021-12-03 #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

    Mon Dec 20 09:45:19 UTC 2021

    ARM compatibility is considered experimental

    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Processor : Neoverse-N1
    CPU cores : 4 @ ??? MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM : 23.3 GiB
    Swap : 0.0 KiB
    Disk : 145.3 GiB

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k (IOPS) | 64k (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 19.14 MB/s (4.7k) | 37.13 MB/s (580)
    Write | 19.13 MB/s (4.7k) | 38.23 MB/s (597)
    Total | 38.28 MB/s (9.5k) | 75.37 MB/s (1.1k)
    | |
    Block Size | 512k (IOPS) | 1m (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 34.64 MB/s (67) | 34.26 MB/s (33)
    Write | 37.60 MB/s (73) | 38.22 MB/s (37)
    Total | 72.25 MB/s (140) | 72.48 MB/s (70)

    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed
    | | |
    Clouvider | London, UK (10G) | 1.02 Gbits/sec | 1.01 Gbits/sec
    Online.net | Paris, FR (10G) | 1.01 Gbits/sec | 1.01 Gbits/sec
    WorldStream | The Netherlands (10G) | 1.02 Gbits/sec | 1.01 Gbits/sec
    WebHorizon | Singapore (1G) | 98.5 Mbits/sec | 343 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | NYC, NY, US (10G) | 762 Mbits/sec | 594 Mbits/sec
    Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 580 Mbits/sec | 419 Mbits/sec
    Clouvider | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 522 Mbits/sec | 342 Mbits/sec
    Iveloz Telecom | Sao Paulo, BR (2G) | 79.2 Mbits/sec | 132 Mbits/sec

    This is one of the 4 core / 24 gigs of RAM machines in London. The disk is really slow but not bad or free :-)

    You can set faster disk.
    Read the previous comments.

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 103.26 MB/s  (25.8k) | 298.10 MB/s   (4.6k)
Write      | 103.19 MB/s  (25.7k) | 306.96 MB/s   (4.7k)
Total      | 206.45 MB/s  (51.6k) | 605.06 MB/s   (9.4k)
           |                      |                     
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 215.14 MB/s    (420) | 185.27 MB/s    (180)
Write      | 233.54 MB/s    (456) | 206.71 MB/s    (201)
Total      | 448.68 MB/s    (876) | 391.99 MB/s    (381)
  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran

    @dragon1993 said: how is text editing iptables still a thing in 2021?

    Same as how properly using the forum codes to quote still is.

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  • orion504orion504 Member
    edited December 2021

    I registered account on Oracle Clown on 11/1/2021 to see what happened and now (~2months) the account is still in waiting-to-provision mode :sweat_smile: Tried to contact support for the status update and the answer is always: In progress, give us sometimes :sunglasses:

  • tuxtux Member

    Are somebody tried sign-up from Finland? They website said that "We're unable to complete your sign up. Common sign up errors are due to: (a) Using prepaid cards. Oracle only accepts credit card and debit cards (b) Intentionally or unintentionally masking one's location or identity (c) Entering incomplete or inaccurate account details."

  • comXyzcomXyz Member

    @dragon1993 said: Read the previous comments

    lol

  • AXYZEAXYZE Member

    @tux said:
    Are somebody tried sign-up from Finland? They website said that "We're unable to complete your sign up. Common sign up errors are due to: (a) Using prepaid cards. Oracle only accepts credit card and debit cards (b) Intentionally or unintentionally masking one's location or identity (c) Entering incomplete or inaccurate account details."

    Too high risk factor. Disable VPN, adblockers, make sure that your data has 1:1 same info as your card etc...

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