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New DirectAdmin retail license structure

ITLabsITLabs Member
edited August 2019 in General

As already anticipated by @DA_Mark:

  • Trial license: full retail license valid for 60 days;

  • Personal license: $24/y - 1 account / 10 domains;

  • Lite license: $15/m - 10 accounts / 50 domains;

  • Regular license: $29/m - unlimited;

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  • bulabula Member

    thats great

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  • adxnadxn Member, Provider

    They are doing what cPanel should have done, The pricing looks great and totally sensible.

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  • Great changes they've done!

  • what will happen after 60 days on Trial license?

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  • ViridWebViridWeb Member, Provider

    Good step for hosting community.
    But I think I am late to get a Owned License instead..:(

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  • @Chuck said:
    what will happen after 60 days on Trial license?

    All domains gets auto forwarded to LET

    (Yeah, couldn't find what happens after 60 days on the website either)

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  • jsgjsg Member

    Great. The OSs (Linux, xBSD) are free, virtualization software is free ... but at the tail of it some companies tacking some colourful clicky-clicky GUI on all the major free work of others ask for money. To make it worse their clientele even applauds for a GUI costing more than many VPSs.

    Maybe the Linux and BSD people should start to demand money.

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  • XsltelXsltel Member, Provider

    Chuck said: what will happen after 60 days on Trial license?

    Remind me in 60 days .

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  • I think we can safely assume that after 60 days, you get the error that your license has expired (after logging in) and you can't operate it any further.

    Anyway Mark.. thats excellent pricing!

  • ZweiTigerZweiTiger Member, Provider

    @XSLTel said:

    Chuck said: what will happen after 60 days on Trial license?

    Remind me in 60 days .

    Your Directadmin service not will start and you cannot access the control panel. Thats all what will happen.

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  • Very reasonably priced when the other is very greedy on price rise.

    Still end users gets DA as free or at discounted price from vps or dedicated providers.

  • angstromangstrom Member
    edited August 2019

    @jsg said:
    Great. The OSs (Linux, xBSD) are free, virtualization software is free ... but at the tail of it some companies tacking some colourful clicky-clicky GUI on all the major free work of others ask for money. To make it worse their clientele even applauds for a GUI costing more than many VPSs.

    I understand where you're coming from, but perhaps it's best to think of it this way: the fees are for maintenance and support.

    Anyway, this would be a longer discussion, and it may be best not to derail the present thread with such a discussion ...

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  • I wasn't aware that the lifetime license (with yearly update fee) will disappear completely. Wow. Now I no longer bite my ass and keep mine... ;-)

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  • TionTion Member

    Dat personal license.

    Black Man in yellow jacket behind tree with CPanel logo on it rubbing his hands and licking his lips in anticipation of new DirectAdmin licensing model

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  • vimalwarevimalware Member
    edited August 2019

    Looks like it makes sense to renew my 25 eur/yr kvm-SSD-2GB special with InceptionHosting. (free Internal 'full' DA)

    Clouvider is a fine network to provide shared hosting from.

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  • @Amitz said: I wasn't aware that the lifetime license (with yearly update fee) will disappear completely. Wow.

    But I thought that the writing was on the wall.

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  • angstrom said: But I thought that the writing was on the wall.

    I am shortsighted. All writings on the wall look the same to me... :wink:

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  • Good Pricing Scheme and very flexible (can install to vps or dedicated) .. but more nice if standar licence is around $25

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  • I thought they said that the external lifetime licenses remains..hm.

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  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited August 2019

    Will the "personal" license be limited to one license per customer, or could one buy several of those under the same client account? I assume the latter, just want to be sure...

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  • vpsjunglevpsjungle Member
    edited August 2019

    @Amitz said:
    Will the "personal" license be limited to one license per customer, or could one buy several of those under the same client account? I assume the latter, just want to be sure...

    I think there won't be any such restrictions.

    You can buy as much as you can.

    But most of the providers started offering free DA or discounted DA which will pretty cheaper than you buy directly.

  • LeeLee Member
    edited August 2019

    vpsjungle said: You can by as much as you can

    Where is your evidence of this? As you will purchase directly from DA how do you know they will not limit the personal licence?

    vpsjungle said: But most of the providers started offering free DA or discounted DA which will pretty cheaper than you buy directly.

    A few have, not most. There are lots of providers out there (the majority) that do not offer DA or people do not want to use the ones that do.

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    1. Personal license - currently no limits on ordering. Domain-unlocked for DNS purposes so it's also a cheap clustering license.

    2. When a DA license expires, you can't login. That's it. Everything else functions as normal. Websites won't suddenly show a "this server is using an expired control panel" error.

    3. Retail pricing. We tried to be fair, but retail pricing is supposed to be the most expensive and off-putting. Datacenters order in higher quantities and are responsible for support, so they get much better prices that they can pass onto you, and we can focus on development instead of support tickets (win-win).

    It is true that not every DC will offer DA, but we are more than fair about this. We don't have minimum order requirements so it costs them nothing to offer DA. Worst case scenario, a DC should be able to provide you a full unlimited license around the cost of our retail Lite. Most offer it for less, and some build it into pricing and call it "free."

  • @DA_Mark said:
    1. Personal license - currently no limits on ordering. Domain-unlocked for DNS purposes so it's also a cheap clustering license.

    Hmm.. this is great! So there's no 10 domains limit for DNS clustering?

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  • @ITLabs said:

    @DA_Mark said:
    1. Personal license - currently no limits on ordering. Domain-unlocked for DNS purposes so it's also a cheap clustering license.

    Hmm.. this is great! So there's no 10 domains limit for DNS clustering?

    I believe they calculate 'domain' only if it's a vhost.

    I'am wondering can i host unlimited email domains on personal license?

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  • @ITLabs said:

    @DA_Mark said:
    1. Personal license - currently no limits on ordering. Domain-unlocked for DNS purposes so it's also a cheap clustering license.

    Hmm.. this is great! So there's no 10 domains limit for DNS clustering?

    Correct. For the intent of DNS clustering, it has no limits. All other things (webserver/mail/etc.) are locked down to that 10 domain hard-limit.

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  • For slightly more technical info on how accounts/domains are calculated, and what happens if you go over limits (e.g. Go from a regular license to Personal, and have more then 10 domains):

    https://help.directadmin.com/item.php?id=2109

  • @DA_Mark said:
    For slightly more technical info on how accounts/domains are calculated, and what happens if you go over limits (e.g. Go from a regular license to Personal, and have more then 10 domains):

    https://help.directadmin.com/item.php?id=2109

    Thanks @DA_Mark bookmarked :)

    Pricing wise they look good though with some many free DA license based web hosts, the choice based on pricing isn't really an issue anymore.

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  • @DA_Mark said:
    ..and have more then 10 domains):

    Hmm. :expressionless:

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  • LeeLee Member

    So is the lifetime licence gone?

  • Yes, sir.

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    @Lee said:
    So is the lifetime licence gone?

    They were removed last month as they admitted they were a loss-leader from eons ago.

    If they're expected to take on the support & development load they're about to, they need the funding.

    Only fair.

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  • LeeLee Member
    edited August 2019

    Sorry, must have missed it or something :)

    Good pricing changes though provides a lot of options for people.

  • agentmishraagentmishra Member, Provider

    just to ask

    do the vps owners (not the providers) get the same price as for the dedicated server?

    as i do not see any such thing in this pricing...

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  • @agentmishra the site mentions all licenses work for VPS or dedicated servers (no price difference), unless you're asking something else? Not quite sure on the question.

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  • agentmishraagentmishra Member, Provider

    @Harambe said:
    @agentmishra the site mentions all licenses work for VPS or dedicated servers (no price difference), unless you're asking something else? Not quite sure on the question.

    that was exactly the question

    i feel (not all may feel so), that the vps pricing should be different from those of the dedicated pricing

    not sure if this makes sense, but to me it surely is...

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  • @agentmishra said:

    @Harambe said:
    @agentmishra the site mentions all licenses work for VPS or dedicated servers (no price difference), unless you're asking something else? Not quite sure on the question.

    that was exactly the question

    i feel (not all may feel so), that the vps pricing should be different from those of the dedicated pricing

    not sure if this makes sense, but to me it surely is...

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  • DA_MarkDA_Mark Member
    edited August 2019

    These days, there's really no difference between a VPS or dedi. You could get a 24-core 96 GB RAM "VPS" from Vultr ($640/month). You could get a $15/month dedicated server from Kimsufi. Should the first $640/month person get a cheaper license, saying "I am using a VPS! Make the $15/month Kimusfi guy pay more. He is using a full dedicated server."

    I'm not saying it's an invalid argument, but I am saying that the server type is no longer a good indication of what makes a low-end box. @smtalk is encouraging us to base it on something else, for example a "VPS" license being limited to systems with 8gb memory or less.

    Feedback welcome.

    In the meantime, my personal stance is that the Personal/Lite license should appeal to anyone who wants a better price and has a spare box sitting around, whether it's a VPS or old dedi.

  • Don't rely on CPs but I'll grab a Personal just to show support.
    Thanks @DA_Mark

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  • Really good pricing unlike cPanel

  • @ITLabs said:
    As already anticipated by @DA_Mark:

    • Trial license: full retail license valid for 60 days;

    • Personal license: $24/y - 1 account / 10 domains;

    • Lite license: $15/m - 10 accounts / 50 domains;

    • Regular license: $29/m - unlimited;

    Have a nica day ,
    If your provider is a directadmin partner, you can get unlimited domain licenses for low price

  • agentmishraagentmishra Member, Provider

    @DA_Mark said:
    These days, there's really no difference between a VPS or dedi. You could get a 24-core 96 GB RAM "VPS" from Vultr ($640/month). You could get a $15/month dedicated server from Kimsufi. Should the first $640/month person get a cheaper license, saying "I am using a VPS! Make the $15/month Kimusfi guy pay more. He is using a full dedicated server."

    I'm not saying it's an invalid argument, but I am saying that the server type is no longer a good indication of what makes a low-end box. @smtalk is encouraging us to base it on something else, for example a "VPS" license being limited to systems with 8gb memory or less.

    Feedback welcome.

    In the meantime, my personal stance is that the Personal/Lite license should appeal to anyone who wants a better price and has a spare box sitting around, whether it's a VPS or old dedi.

    i totally agree to @DA_Mark

    but i feel its more like a webuzo kinda thing for the personal pricing range (not comparing the product features) just the 1 account spec

    webuzo has unlimited domains at nearly this price

    my personal belief is any thing between the persoanl and lite and the lite and standard for the vps owners (by checking the lscpu type) would really give a kill to the competitors

    very much like interworx has

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  • @ViridWeb said:
    Good step for hosting community.
    But I think I am late to get a Owned License instead..:(

    Still you can get Owned license from order link but available for Reseller partner.

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  • @agentmishra said:

    @DA_Mark said:
    These days, there's really no difference between a VPS or dedi. You could get a 24-core 96 GB RAM "VPS" from Vultr ($640/month). You could get a $15/month dedicated server from Kimsufi. Should the first $640/month person get a cheaper license, saying "I am using a VPS! Make the $15/month Kimusfi guy pay more. He is using a full dedicated server."

    I'm not saying it's an invalid argument, but I am saying that the server type is no longer a good indication of what makes a low-end box. @smtalk is encouraging us to base it on something else, for example a "VPS" license being limited to systems with 8gb memory or less.

    Feedback welcome.

    In the meantime, my personal stance is that the Personal/Lite license should appeal to anyone who wants a better price and has a spare box sitting around, whether it's a VPS or old dedi.

    i totally agree to @DA_Mark

    but i feel its more like a webuzo kinda thing for the personal pricing range (not comparing the product features) just the 1 account spec

    webuzo has unlimited domains at nearly this price

    my personal belief is any thing between the persoanl and lite and the lite and standard for the vps owners (by checking the lscpu type) would really give a kill to the competitors

    very much like interworx has

    What the hell are you talking about? Directadmin pricing is perfect at the moment. Transparent pricing is all we need. No more idiotical distinction between vps/dedicated, no per account charge. Pay -> receive. That's it. No BS.

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  • LeeLee Member

    agentmishra said: webuzo has unlimited domains at nearly this price

    DA is a panel with a lot of features, it's mature and so on. Webuzo is a bag of shite, you are comparing the pricing for DA with the pricing for a bag of shite.

    Not going to work.

  • @Lee said:

    agentmishra said: webuzo has unlimited domains at nearly this price

    DA is a panel with a lot of features, it's mature and so on. Webuzo is a bag of shite, you are comparing the pricing for DA with the pricing for a bag of shite.

    Not going to work.

    Webuzo is 20 pounds of shit in a 10 pound bag.

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  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint Member
    edited August 2019

    @Lee said:
    DA is a panel with a lot of features, it's mature and so on..

    Last night's cron update:

    ERROR!
    You probably have to install the development version of the Python package
    for your distribution. The exact name of this package varies among them.

    A mature product doesn't look to utilise development packages; that is shite.

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    AlwaysSkint said: A mature product doesn't look to utilise development packages; that is shite.

    Are you running DA on something besides CentOS?

    I found DA was best on DA and not nearly as bitchy.

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  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint Member
    edited August 2019

    @Francisco said:
    Are you running DA on something besides CentOS?

    Nope. Always CentOS unless there is no choice..

    Totally forgot about my slice! :-o Thanks Francisco. Goes off to check out cron on that..

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