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    OpenVZ 6 EOL soon. Is everyone prepared?

    HostUpHostUp Member, Provider
    edited August 12 in General

    Hey, OpenVZ 6 EOL is september 2019, next month as of writing this, but yet everyone that uses OpenVZ seems to be using it. What do you guys think will happen? Is everyone prepared to do the switch, or will most just stay with an EOL version?

    You could take the same situation with PHP 5. Most use it but its EOL was ages ago.

    David B. from HostUp, LLC | Web & VPS Hosting in Netherlands | DDoS protection | $3,50/mo
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    • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Top Provider
      edited August 12

      Where are you getting your information?

      Its not EOL until END of November 2019.

      Edit: never mind, looking at this: https://www.lowendtalk.com/profile/discussions/182827/HostUp I see I am wasting my breath, you will be back at school in September and this will all be forgotten.

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    • get your sisters ready.....

      relentless collector of highest clocked, highest performing KVM/NVMe/Gbit VPSes at the most competitive rates. just to hard idle them. zero knowledge on coding/programming; a mere hobbyist.

    • shutdown -h now

      All set!

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    • jackbjackb Member, Provider
      edited August 12

      @HostUp said:
      Hey, OpenVZ 6 EOL is september 2019, next month as of writing this, but yet everyone that uses OpenVZ seems to be using it. What do you guys think will happen? Is everyone prepared to do the switch, or will most just stay with an EOL version?

      You could take the same situation with PHP 5. Most use it but its EOL was ages ago.

      Some hosts will migrate customers to KVM or vz7. Some hosts will deadpool. Some hosts will stick with openvz 6, get owned and then deadpool.

      There isn't a choice here. Migrate or die. There is a rumour kernelcare might provide kernel patching support for openvz 6 until the centos 6 eol, but that isn't confirmed and doesn't provide you OpenVZ patches.

      Anyone who hasn't started yet is either very small or very stupid - leaving hundreds or thousands of migrations to the last minute is a really bad move. We are around the half way point in our migration now, but a lot of vm's still to be done.

      Afterburst - Awesome OpenVZ&KVM VPS in US+EU

    • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

      @HostUp said:
      Hey, OpenVZ 6 EOL is september 2019, next month as of writing this, but yet everyone that uses OpenVZ seems to be using it. What do you guys think will happen? Is everyone prepared to do the switch, or will most just stay with an EOL version?

      You could take the same situation with PHP 5. Most use it but its EOL was ages ago.

      Cloudlinux claims they will probably (if not will be) supporting the kernels past EOL.

      Francisco

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    • MikeAMikeA Member, Provider
      edited August 12

      I'll probably migrate all of my 2.6 OVZ6 stuff to VZ7 when I can get better hardware. EOL period is still enough time for hosts to migrate. People don't mind some downtime if they get better hardware. 🤠

    • I'll probably switch to KVM servers, and keep a few shitty OVZ VPSes for stuff I don't care about.

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    • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

      We just finished moving the last of our OVZ 6 servers to OVZ 7 a couple weeks ago.

      Overall went fine.

      Francisco

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    • WebProjectWebProject Member, Provider

      Still plenty time to migrate, as for PHP 5 is already obsolete as any decent applications do support 7.x version of PHP.

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    • Do these migrations require changing to a new IP? That could be painful.

    • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

      @TimboJones said:
      Do these migrations require changing to a new IP? That could be painful.

      That's on a host-by-host basis.

      For us, we simply spun up new OVZ nodes and used a modified ovztransfer.sh to do the transfers. It does require downtime on the container due to OVZ doing some janky crap.

      Francisco

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    • HostSlickHostSlick Member, Provider
      edited August 12

      Its End of November 2019.
      We started that a week ago. Next days finishing the migration of all our UK Nodes. Including better hardware. NL Servers are next. Scheduling that aswell.

      Migrating one by one and making sure your servers are fine and all is good. There was some problems with some containers while migrating. Investigated and fixed.

      86 OVZ Containers left to be migrated in UK.

      No worrys. Im taking care of all.

      Max

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    • OujiOuji Member
      edited August 12

      HostSlick said: Its End of November 2019.
      We started that a week ago. Next days finishing the migration of all our UK Nodes. Including better hardware. NL Servers are next. Scheduling that aswell.

      Migrating one by one and making sure your servers are fine and all is good. There was some problems with some containers while migrating. Investigated and fixed.

      86 OVZ Containers left to be migrated in UK.

      No worrys. Im taking care of all.

      Max

      Yay, nice to hear. Do you have an ETA for the migration of the NL nodes? I'm looking forward to use a few features that require a newer kernel.

      Thank you for coming forward with an update.

    • ChuckChuck Member
      edited August 13

      @cociu wants your sister if you want to upgrade to OVZ 7.

      I like what she said, not what it means.

    • [email protected]:~# uname -r
      2.6.32-042stab127.2
      

      @Cam

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    • Daniel15Daniel15 Member
      edited August 13

      I imagine the providers that care would have already migrated, or at least started to migrate. The old kernel version used by OpenVZ has already been EOL'd upstream for a while now, and is missing a lot of the features available in newer kernels.

      HostUp said: You could take the same situation with PHP 5. Most use it

      PHP 7 is more common than PHP 5 now (eg. see https://wordpress.org/about/stats/) but you're right that there's still way too many hosts still using PHP 5. Any host still using PHP 5 likely has other EOL software in prod too, and is missing out on perf improvements (PHP 7 + Opcache is quite a bit faster than PHP 5). If a host only offers PHP 5, I'd stay far far away.

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    • NDTNNDTN Member, Provider

      We already migrated our customers from OpenVZ 6 to our KVM a few months ago. Things did not go smooth when we tried OpenVZ 7 templates with SolusVM at that time so we just moved to KVM.

    • CamCam Member, Provider

      @JustPfff said:
      [email protected]:~# uname -r
      2.6.32-042stab127.2

      @Cam

      I got a new FIN and DE server ~ready~ Gotta do some tests and will likely have it available in a week.

    • HostUpHostUp Member, Provider
      edited August 13

      @JustPfff said:
      [email protected]:~# uname -r
      2.6.32-042stab127.2

      @Cam

      [[email protected] ~]# uname -r
      3.10.0-957.10.1.vz7.85.17
      

      Wow, look at me. Out of my league. Jokes aside, I wish you the best in upgrading the kernel @Cam :D

      @NDTN said:
      We already migrated our customers from OpenVZ 6 to our KVM a few months ago. Things did not go smooth when we tried OpenVZ 7 templates with SolusVM at that time so we just moved to KVM.

      I have been using OpenVZ 7 templates just fine, and it is great with SolusVM on for me. I even managed to install Ubuntu 18.04, which is a big plus comparing to the older kernel.

      I do not really like KVM, it is inefficient and dedicated resources even though they are not used. That is just my opinion though.

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    • ehabehab Member

      @Cam said:

      @JustPfff said:
      [email protected]:~# uname -r
      2.6.32-042stab127.2

      @Cam

      I got a new FIN and DE server ~ready~ Gotta do some tests and will likely have it available in a week.

      sounds like some new offers coming?

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    • CamCam Member, Provider

      @ehab said:

      sounds like some new offers coming?

      Ooof, Baby steps now, I just got back from vacation :)

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    • ehabehab Member

      @Cam said:

      one always needs a vacation after a vacation.

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    • donlidonli Member

      "EOL" doesn't mean it stops working on that day, you know.

    • raindog308raindog308 Moderator

      donli said: "EOL" doesn't mean it stops working on that day, you know.

      jackb said: Migrate or die.

      MIGRATE OR DIE.

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    • jonathanspwjonathanspw Member, Provider

      We've been running ovz6->7 migrations for several weeks now, I guess close to 2 months really. So far so good. Templating is annoying, but not impossible.

    • jixunjixun Member

      @Cam said:

      @JustPfff said:
      [email protected]:~# uname -r
      2.6.32-042stab127.2

      @Cam

      I got a new FIN and DE server ~ready~ Gotta do some tests and will likely have it available in a week.

      Nice

    • December has arrived. OpenVZ 6 is officially dead.

      VirMach moved me to KVM. 384MB, $4 per year.
      Control panel has ISO install, but only Debian works with “low memory” mode. Ubuntu won’t work from ISO because of insufficient memory.

      SecureDragon is stuck at OpenVZ 6.
      They want to borrow hardware from data center to avoid shipping new machines. Not wanting to ship new machines implies the growth is slow.
      My plan is 64MB, $4.99 per year. It’s been idling for many months. I’m thinking about canceling.

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    • @yoursunny said: SecureDragon is stuck at OpenVZ 6.

      Yeah, not so good for a respected provider

      But they're not the only provider still running OVZ6

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