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Will something happen to Online.net in the future?

wujefwujef Member
edited July 2019 in General

Hello,

I've been with Online.net since 2017 and I have two Dediboxes with them. I've read the history of Online.net before being a customer with them, I knew that Online.net launched a beta test ARM cloud service known as Online Labs (labs.online.net), but it seems that in 2015, Online Labs became a Iliad Group brand named "Scaleway"

Scaleway at first was simple, they provided only ARM cloud - but they kept increasing their products range until they provided the current products range (cloud, bare metal servers, GPU instances, and more)

So I started this because I am annoyed that they transferred everything to the scaleway.com domain (the status page, the legal notes, the PDF files, etc.) and they even started a still "private beta" product called "Baremetal dedibox" (https://www.scaleway.com/en/betas/#bare-metal) which handles the same name of the "Online.net dedibox"

So I see that they don't care about Online.net as much as Scaleway although they still say that Online.net is their parent company.

It will be really annoying if they suddenly fully moved Online.net to the Scaleway site because I became a customer for Online.net and not for Scaleway. I really hate brands changing. So this is something that I hope they won't do, especially that I pay on Online.net using direct debit which isn't accepted on Scaleway.

Is there's a known Online.net/Scaleway staff here that can say if something will happen to Online.net or nah? (I hope no, oof)

Thanks!

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Where there is beginning, there is the end.

    Thus, the end is nigh in relative terms.

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  • AuroraZAuroraZ Barred

    Just how are we supposed to know this? We don't own the company, and I know I don't work there.

    10 years from now they could get swallowed up, 20 years from now they could just stop. No one can predict the future and if you can we need to talk.

  • wujefwujef Member

    @deank said:
    Where there is beginning, there is the end.

    Thus, the end is nigh in relative terms.

    Big companies usually don't have a so fast end. Online.net has been since 1999 and its owned by the Iliad Group which was founded by a French guy. Iliad Group owns "Free.fr" which is one of the top mobile providers and ISPs in France.
    A lot of companies stay for more than 100 years (but tbh, I don't think that this ever happened with servers)

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Okay, so what?

    What do you expect from us?

  • AuroraZAuroraZ Barred

    @deank said:
    Okay, so what?

    What do you expect from us?

    Exactly my point man, are we fricken Wizards now and can reach into the future or what here?

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Does any of you have a 8-ball?

    Try it and give its answer to OP. That ought to be enough.

  • AuroraZAuroraZ Barred

    @deank said:
    Does any of you have a 8-ball?

    Try it and give its answer to OP. That ought to be enough.

    Mine says the outlook is not good.

  • ITLabsITLabs Member
    edited July 2019

    @wujef asked:
    Will something happen to Online.net in the future?

    Yes, it will become net.Offline.

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  • williewillie Member

    Current distinction seems to be that Scaleway is hourly billed services while Online is monthly.

  • uptimeuptime Member
    edited July 2019

    @deank said:
    Does any of you have a 8-ball?

    Try it and give its answer to OP. That ought to be enough.

    Mine says "First one's free!" ...

    And now it's asking me to lend it $125 until next Tuesday

    so ... I dunno what to say about all that, really ...

  • AuroraZAuroraZ Barred

    @uptime said:

    @deank said:
    Does any of you have a 8-ball?

    Try it and give its answer to OP. That ought to be enough.

    Mine says "First one's free!" ...

    And now it's asking me to lend it $125 until next Tuesday

    so ... I dunno what tp say about all that, really ...

    Yours asks? WTF mine just takes it from my account.

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  • uptimeuptime Member
    edited July 2019

    @AuroraZ said:
    mine just takes it from my account.

    ... just takes it from your Online account I reckon.

    Anyhoo - @wujef you want maybe I should talk to them for you ...?

    cracks knuckles

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    wujef said: A lot of companies stay for more than 100 years (but tbh, I don't think that this ever happened with servers)

    Curious isn't it. Why have no server companies been around for more than 100 years?

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  • ChrisMillerChrisMiller Member

    @wujef said:
    A lot of companies stay for more than 100 years (but tbh, I don't think that this ever happened with servers)

  • uptimeuptime Member
    edited July 2019

    @jar said:

    wujef said: A lot of companies stay for more than 100 years (but tbh, I don't think that this ever happened with servers)

    Curious isn't it. Why have no server companies been around for more than 100 years?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burroughs_Corporation

    was making cash registers adding machines in 1886 (as the American Arithmometer Company)

    The year 1895 also marked the Company’s first dividend payment. The Company continued to maintain an uninterrupted dividend payment record for over 100 years.

    In 1986 Burroughs acquired / merged with Sperry Corporation (aka the Sperry Gyroscope Company, going back to 1910) ... and is now known as Unisys

    EDIT2: However, there is a rumour going around that they may soon rebrand as Uniway™ :smiley:

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  • AuroraZAuroraZ Barred

    @ChrisMiller

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  • ChrisMillerChrisMiller Member

    @AuroraZ said:
    @ChrisMiller

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  • joepie91joepie91 Member, Patron Provider

    @willie said:
    Current distinction seems to be that Scaleway is hourly billed services while Online is monthly.

    A bigger distinction is that Scaleway is designed to appeal to the startup-y cloudycloud crowd, and is doing so reasonably successfully. Whereas Online.net is pretty much unknown in those circles.

    This is probably also exactly why Scaleway is starting to accumulate so many services; it's a brand that actually has a reasonably good and well-known reputation (unlike Online.net).

  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited July 2019

    jar said: Curious isn't it. Why have no server companies been around for more than 100 years?

    The socialists don't want us to know the truth about their more than 100 years old server collectives.

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  • mikmakmikmak Member

    @wujef said:
    Hello,

    I've been with Online.net since 2017 and I have two Dediboxes with them. I've read the history of Online.net before being a customer with them, I knew that Online.net launched a beta test ARM cloud service known as Online Labs (labs.online.net), but it seems that in 2015, Online Labs became a Iliad Group brand named "Scaleway"

    Scaleway at first was simple, they provided only ARM cloud - but they kept increasing their products range until they provided the current products range (cloud, bare metal servers, GPU instances, and more)

    So I started this because I am annoyed that they transferred everything to the scaleway.com domain (the status page, the legal notes, the PDF files, etc.) and they even started a still "private beta" product called "Baremetal dedibox" (https://www.scaleway.com/en/betas/#bare-metal) which handles the same name of the "Online.net dedibox"

    So I see that they don't care about Online.net as much as Scaleway although they still say that Online.net is their parent company.

    It will be really annoying if they suddenly fully moved Online.net to the Scaleway site because I became a customer for Online.net and not for Scaleway. I really hate brands changing. So this is something that I hope they won't do, especially that I pay on Online.net using direct debit which isn't accepted on Scaleway.

    Is there's a known Online.net/Scaleway staff here that can say if something will happen to Online.net or nah? (I hope no, oof)

    Thanks!

    Hi there,

    Online.net is not going anywhere just yet. But yes, we are also integrating the best of dedibox/online.net into Scaleway, simply to converge all our products under the same brand (better visibility, larger ecosystem, common features, etc) .
    The target is to integrate most Dedibox features inside the Scaleway brand, so you can still find what you had with Dedibox in Scaleway. We hope to offer more flexibility and more features in Scaleway though.
    As said by someone above, the main difference will be the pricing model for now, as we will be able to bill by hour through Scaleway (as opposed to monthly through Online.net), then more features will be added over time. But the idea in the long run is that you will find through Scaleway what you have today through Online.net anyway.

    Cheers,
    Mik

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  • mikmakmikmak Member
    edited July 2019

    wujef said: It will be really annoying if they suddenly fully moved Online.net to the Scaleway site because I became a customer for Online.net and not for Scaleway. I really hate brands changing. So this is something that I hope they won't do, especially that I pay on Online.net using direct debit which isn't accepted on Scaleway.

    forgot to comment on this => check real real soon (like next monday :) )

    regards,
    Mik

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