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What are you using it for ?
Website (static content?)
Game server ?
or ?
I would like to host LEMP stack.
Bunnycdn. Add it to your sites, and things will be blazingly fast, so no more 180ms latencies.
I believe the https://hostballs.com forum is hosted on Hetzner - maybe drop by there and ask about their experience with US traffic.
The latency for sticker delivery to west coast USA may be of particular concern - seems packet routing may involve several round trips before reaching final destination. (j/k, a private joke!)
Thank you for the tip! I'll try to ask there too.
Yes I use it, an auction dedi mostly as a storage and computation server. Latency from west US is noticable but tolerable for interaction using ssh. I also seem to get max transfer speed of around 50Mbit/sec per connection, though I can get more total transfer by having several connections active at once.
I frankly wouldn't recommend something that far away for a normal web site if you care about speed. A cdn can help for static assets but not so much for dynamic pages. Use something closer to your audience.
Light speed matters.
East <=> West is about 80ms
East <=> Hetzner is about 90ms
So latency adds up when you're serving middle / west users.
But TBH 170ms latency on loading website is nothing. (OK, it's something, but not that big of a deal if bandwidth is great.) You can use a CDN service to cache your static files globally. CF, bunny, or host-your-self-CDN.
I wouldn't recommend it. It's the only reason I don't use Hetzner. Not gonna have a fun time.
Technik in der unsere Welt!
It's not just latency, any transfers are likely to start out quite slow. I mentioned earlier I got xfer speed in the 40 mbit range, which is low to begin with, but I usually transfer large files (many mbytes). Transfer only reaches 40 mbit when it has been going on for a while. It starts out much slower. I ran a pyjupiter notebook on a hetzner VM a few times (browser in the US) and it was kind of painful because of the latency and blurpy speed. It's much better with a more nearby machine.
@ckissi Why don't you just test it out yourself
We do grant our customers the right of withdrawal from their contract within the first 14 days so should you not be satisfied with latency and network speed, you can just withdraw from the contract without giving a reason. (See point 11 in our AGBs)
Good point. Even simpler is spin up an hourly cloud server.
I've with you for years already and really love your service. I just never hosted sites that are primarily for US audience.
just to add to this discussion - and to put on my "taking the question literally rather than rhetorically" dunce cap for a minute ...
so (in case it might help Hetzner's marketing, let's say
)
some possible responses to the literal "why not just test it" question might involve:
1) if I don't really know what I'm doing (and I seldom do) - it might be difficult for me to test some things ahead of time, especially involving real, live traffic
2) the cost for a testing server may be the least of my concerns, compared to extra development time invested, so-called "opportunity costs" (I'm losing millions!) and so forth
3) I might like to compare notes with the low-end experts here ... maybe just for the lulz, but quite possibly I'll learn a bit in the process (see item number 1 above).
4) it might give a wee window of opportunity to encourage Hetzner to carefully consider their market potential in North America ... Hetzner Dallas could be quite interesting for example. (Or maybe even Miami - which might be better for South America, while still more-or-less acceptable for western US/Canada and quite decent for east coast and even for western Europe - and perhaps even a nice place for a company
vacationbusiness trip as well).EDIT2: I understand that as a rule Hetzner will neither confirm nor deny any plans, schemes, or devisings with regards to future developments. That's okay. (Just do it!)
Anyhoo ... I know it was a rhetorical question to remind about the 14-day evaluation possibility, which is a great feature. And of course there's much to be said for doing one's own research and real-world testing as well.
Just hoping to add some balance and/or literal-mindedness - and maybe also to encourage a bit more discussion here about making good use of Hetzner services, even from the wild wild western parts of North America. (For example, the Hetzner-hosted hostballs forum seems to work just fine for me even way out here on the west coast, despite being a fairly feature-rich interface.)
I never hung around hostballs much partly because it is so slow. LET is much faster. I figured it was because of the software though, not the ping latency, since I think it's cached by cloudflare anyway.
For an even faster forum, try news.ycombinator.com which has far less bloaty software than either. For a fast news site, try lite.cnn.io. Now that's UI design
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I haven't seen the same 'slow-start' performance for OVH across the Atlantic, though, which suggests that there's something else going on as well.
If you're in the EU, try https://eu.usatoday.com/ instead. Just as fast as CNN Lite, but with a design from this decade!
(Won't work if you're not in the EU, you'll just get shunted off to their tracker-laden horrible regular website.)
Edit: A screenshot for the curious:
Sounds ok but I prefer CNN Lite's futuristic 22nd century design, optimized for post-Javascript low bit rate interplanetary networks
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That's called a "RSS feed".