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  • First-RootFirst-Root Member, Provider
    edited August 2019

    @jsg said:
    almost 800k routes? What are you talking about? He has 3 upstreams plus probably some preferences (like "route everything except [traffic from some preferred boxes) via the cheap uplink".

    current ipv4 full table size https://www.cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/plota?file=/var/data/bgp/as2.0/bgp-active.txt&descr=Active BGP entries (FIB)&ylabel=Active BGP entries (FIB)&with=step

  • jsgjsg Member

    @FR_Michael

    I certainly didn't doubt you. What I doubted was that every provider takes routing to mean the same thing.

    There are those like you (and gladly many others here) who understand and do real routing and there are those who confuse 90 Gb/s and 600 Gb/s, routers and switches, and BGP routing and misusing L3 switches.

    Thanks no.

  • First-RootFirst-Root Member, Provider

    @jsg said:
    @FR_Michael

    I certainly didn't doubt you. What I doubted was that every provider takes routing to mean the same thing.

    There are those like you (and gladly many others here) who understand and do real routing and there are those who confuse 90 Gb/s and 600 Gb/s, routers and switches, and BGP routing and misusing L3 switches.

    just wanted to clarify my point as my initial reply was not clear enough ;)

  • dedicatserver_rodedicatserver_ro Member, Provider
    edited August 2019

    @FR_Michael

    test my network and we talk after.

    BTW. do you know what use Voxility for core router ? maybe @cociu can help :wink:

  • NekkiNekki Moderator

    @dedicatserver_ro said:

    @FR_Michael

    test my network and we talk after.

    BTW. do you know what use Voxility for core router ? maybe @cociu can help :wink:

    Mate,

    Fuck off.

    Regards,

    LET

    Here lies Nekki. He loved massive amounts of storage, K-Pop and calling people cunts.

  • First-RootFirst-Root Member, Provider
    edited August 2019

    @dedicatserver_ro said:

    @FR_Michael

    test my network and we talk after.

    BTW. do you know what use Voxility for core router ? maybe @cociu can help :wink:

    I really don't care for your network. As said, the arista cannot take a full route so you are either toying with fire, have zero room to grow, don't take full routes or just have no clue what you are doing.

    Btw, you should really think about doing proper cable management. A hand full of these https://www.fs.com/de-en/products/29034.html will make sure that your pictures does not look like a trainee has done your cabeling.

  • dedicatserver_rodedicatserver_ro Member, Provider
    edited August 2019

    FR_Michael said: As said, the arista cannot take a full route

    a small hosting provider in Europe need a full route table? ( you are the specialist :wink: )
    Voxility use same DCS-7280R like core router ( With 1.7 Tbps edge IP traffic connectivity toward over 1450 networks peers) , so they :

    FR_Michael said: are either toying with fire, have zero room to grow, don't take full routes or just have no clue what you are doing.

    Btw. what you use like core router ? Cisco ?

    • we have payd over 100k because "just have no clue what you are doing."
  • First-RootFirst-Root Member, Provider
    edited August 2019

    @dedicatserver_ro said:

    FR_Michael said: As said, the arista cannot take a full route

    a small hosting provider in Europe need a full route table? ( you are the specialist :wink: )

    I don't know if you need it or not, do you?

    Voxility use same DCS-7280R like core router ( With 1.7 Tbps edge IP traffic connectivity toward over 1450 networks peers) , so they :

    I have no knowledge of Voxilities infrastructure. If you can provide more information about their whole setup including their edge routers and similar please share them with us.

    Btw. what you use like core router ? Cisco ?

    Juniper in core and on the edge. Just one mikrotik ccr is still active as a fallback of last resort in case everything else fails.

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  • FR_Michael said: Just one mikrotik ccr is still active as a fallback of last resort in case everything else fails

    A little (too much) off topic, but how much does it costs providers for mikrotik's CCR lineup? Is there an hidden online store or something that only a handful of people know? Currently drooling on the CCR1036-8G-2S+, but it costs a lot for a home router :P

  • jsgjsg Member
    edited August 2019

    @dedicatserver_ro said:
    Voxility use same DCS-7280R like core router

    Proof?

    I knew that you were misusing that Arista switch because you understand it to be "like core router".

    You might want to learn more about networking and to find out the difference between a router for traffic within a DC or across some DCs and a router at the edge of a DC (linked to the feeds).
    Plus you might want to learn that Arista switches are OpenFlow switches based on switching ASICs on the data plane and x86 on the control plane - which makes them good candidates for diverse mechanisms in software using the EOS API.

    we have payd over 100k because "just have no clue what you are doing."

    He was polite. The truth is highly likely that you thought you are smart to buy some Arista switches that "also can do the routing". Putting some SuperMicro servers just beneath the Aristas, with poorly managed cabling at that, clearly indicates that you did not buy the best equipment no matter the cost.

    And btw., who the f_ck are you to think that you are in a position to look down on someone like @FR_Michael who is a well respected provider here and who at least has some real routers?

    @Nekki said:
    Mate,

    Fuck off.

    You should have listened to @Nekki's friendly advice.

    Thanks no.

  • jsgjsg Member

    @dedicatserver_ro said:

    FR_Michael said: Juniper

    model?

    A model that makes him a well respected provider with happy customers.

    Try the "mine is bigger/more expensive" game again once you have a proper router.

    Thanks no.

  • pikepike Member
    edited August 2019

    You guys must be looking for the cest pit.

    on topic: @cociu please fix my server

    Thanked by 2uptime grep
  • cociucociu Member, Provider

    pike said: You guys must be looking for the cest pit.

    on topic: @cociu please fix my server

    you write before me give us some hours because we still work for some new rules in our bgp , after this i promised your kvm will be a priority +1 month for free from my part.

    Thanked by 1pike
  • Voxility kicked-in. Vps is up. Not sure what is causing that, but seem I got lower speed than before. ( But yeah, at least it's up).

  • cociucociu Member, Provider

    ben47955 said: Voxility kicked-in. Vps is up. Not sure what is causing that, but seem I got lower speed than before. ( But yeah, at least it's up).

    when the protection is actived (like now) we have a small lag and is normaly , seems the idiot is not tired so ...

  • Looks like DDoS filtering kicked in and filtering legit traffic too. Meeh

  • ben47955 said: Looks like DDoS filtering kicked in and filtering legit traffic too. Meeh

    What legit traffic is it filtering?

  • skorous said: What legit traffic is it filtering?

    Iso sharring. Didn't test something else. Seem fine now.

  • @cociu said:

    ben47955 said: Voxility kicked-in. Vps is up. Not sure what is causing that, but seem I got lower speed than before. ( But yeah, at least it's up).

    when the protection is actived (like now) we have a small lag and is normaly , seems the idiot is not tired so ...

    Still had 1h:42mins of downtime so far today. Seems the DDOS protection not working well still. Ping also a bit high now.

    08-24-2019 00:00:00 08-24-2019 04:55:41 0d 4h 55m 41s HOST UP (HARD) PING OK - Packet loss = 0%, RTA = 172.47 ms
    08-24-2019 04:55:41 08-24-2019 05:11:45 0d 0h 16m 4s HOST DOWN (HARD) (Host check timed out after 30.03 seconds)
    08-24-2019 05:11:45 08-24-2019 13:33:12 0d 8h 21m 27s HOST UP (HARD) PING OK - Packet loss = 0%, RTA = 171.37 ms
    08-24-2019 13:33:12 08-24-2019 14:59:16 0d 1h 26m 4s HOST DOWN (HARD) (Host check timed out after 30.01 seconds)
    08-24-2019 14:59:16 08-24-2019 17:24:26 0d 2h 25m 10s+ HOST UP (HARD) PING OK - Packet loss = 0%, RTA = 171.71 ms

  • dfroedfroe Member, Provider

    yep, I also had a hard power outage on my dedi today.

    The last minutes are again fine, no packet loss and only small jitter.
    Let's hope the DDoS days are gone and cociu is able to maintain good network quality as it was before.

    IT Service David Froehlich | Individual network and hosting solutions | AS39083 | RIPE LIR services (IPv4, IPv6, ASN)

  • My vps rebooted 5h13m ago, not sure if that coincides with your power outage but if it does, maybe the outage was dc-wide.

    #lexit spread the word.

  • @ben47955 said:

    skorous said: What legit traffic is it filtering?

    Iso sharring. Didn't test something else. Seem fine now.

    It also filters OpenVPN (UDP).

  • drserverdrserver Member, Host Rep

    From offer, to fix my server to who have better network, to router wars, then back to fix my server... I just love LET

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  • Oh, that's why the VPS is down all the time.
    Voxility protection sucks hard, probably blocking my uptime monitoring script.

    tsdns.io - free, redundant, DDoS-protected TSDNS

  • Helloooo...
    I would like my HB-Os ISOs ... like... now. :disappointed:

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  • I have 1 vps that work correctly and the other is down. Two other, status unknown as unmonitored.

  • magicvpn said: It also filters OpenVPN (UDP).

    tls-crypt

  • FHRFHR Member, Provider

    Just to set some things straight:

    FR_Michael said: As said, the arista cannot take a full route

    That's false, some Aristas can take millions of routes, I would suggest doing research on FlexRoute.

    jsg said: I knew that you were misusing that Arista switch because you understand it to be "like core router".

    What are you talking about? The differences between L3 switches and "proper routers" are minuscule nowadays.

    Some of the biggest providers actually route on Aristas and it works fine. Know DataPacket/CDN77, that company that actually does route terabits per second worldwide? Well guess what they use on edge and core…

    Also,

    jsg said: Plus you might want to learn that Arista switches are OpenFlow switches based on switching ASICs on the data plane and x86 on the control plane

    You might want to learn that some of the Juniper MX "proper routers" are actually full x86 machines running a variant of vMX, doing routing via DPDK.

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  • jsgjsg Member

    @FHR said:
    Just to set some things straight:

    That's false, some Aristas can take millions of routes, I would suggest doing research on FlexRoute.

    But this discussion wasn't about "some Aristas". It was about a specific series.

    jsg said: I knew that you were misusing that Arista switch because you understand it to be "like core router".

    What are you talking about? The differences between L3 switches and "proper routers" are minuscule nowadays.

    True, especially wrt boxes whose data plane is powered by Tigon 3 or similar ASICs.

    But there is still some considerable differences between such switches and proper routers. Keep in mind why L3 and "routing" was built into switches: as an extension for internal (inhouse) use. That wasn't about BGP but about primitive inhouse segments routing.

    Some of the biggest providers actually route on Aristas and it works fine. Know DataPacket/CDN77, that company that actually does route terabits per second worldwide? Well guess what they use on edge and core…

    So what? Of course one can use Aristas for routing just like one can use quite many routers for switching. That does not mean however that it's the proper thing to do.

    jsg said: Plus you might want to learn that Arista switches are OpenFlow switches based on switching ASICs on the data plane and x86 on the control plane

    You might want to learn that some of the Juniper MX "proper routers" are actually full x86 machines running a variant of vMX, doing routing via DPDK.

    Pretty much every larger router has a (seperate) control plane and quite often it's X86 based because with X86 one can get (relatively) easily and cheap CPUs, developers, OSs. That's neither news nor a surprise.

    And yes indeed router and switch become more and more similiar and even exchangable due to the a.m. evolution, in particular thanks to not only powerful but also versatile chips like the ones Arista basically built their business on.

    In this case however (and in many in DCs) the "routing" is of the primitive kind where the main feed is another switch or someone else's router ports (e.g. Voxility) because either the DC or the carriers do the actual routing and the hosting provider's routing isn't much more than feeding packets to/from some ports.

    Btw. my reason to get involved in this discussion here was mainly the immense arrogance of some mediocre provider with some Arista switches treating a well respected provider as if he knew nothing and ran just a hobby operation.

    Thanks no.

  • drserverdrserver Member, Host Rep

    There is no point in arguing who have better router. Whatever works for you is good. If you are happy with Arista, go with Arista. We have Juniper from A to Z and i have never regretted any penny spent on that but also I saw some hosts doing much more traffic/money than we are doing on 1K Ubiquity routers....

    Pointless discussion, use whatever works... key thing here is works

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  • First-RootFirst-Root Member, Provider
    edited August 2019

    @FHR said:
    Just to set some things straight:

    FR_Michael said: As said, the arista cannot take a full route

    That's false, some Aristas can take millions of routes, I would suggest doing research on FlexRoute.

    I referred to the Arista he posted, thought it was clear enough.

  • Hi cociu, you don't accept bitcoin payments any more?

  • cociucociu Member, Provider
    edited October 2019

    andy99 said: Hi cociu, you don't accept bitcoin payments any more ?

    open a tiket please, we accept btc

  • @cociu
    Hello. Slow speed for download from VPS for both VPS512 and 1TB Storage. I opened ticket more than 3 weeks ago but no one answer. Ticket #460287

    [email protected]:~# iperf3 -c myip -t40 -p5331 -R
    Connecting to host myip, port 5331
    Reverse mode, remote host myip is sending
    [  5] local 192.168.1.2 port 45418 connected to myip port 5331
    [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
    [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec   397 KBytes  3.25 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec   515 KBytes  4.22 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec   560 KBytes  4.59 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec   499 KBytes  4.09 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec   468 KBytes  3.84 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec   443 KBytes  3.63 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec   467 KBytes  3.82 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec   512 KBytes  4.19 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec   499 KBytes  4.09 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec   503 KBytes  4.12 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  10.00-11.00  sec   454 KBytes  3.72 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  11.00-12.00  sec   374 KBytes  3.06 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  12.00-13.00  sec   304 KBytes  2.49 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  13.00-14.00  sec   232 KBytes  1.90 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  14.00-15.00  sec   195 KBytes  1.60 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  15.00-16.00  sec   226 KBytes  1.85 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  16.00-17.00  sec   248 KBytes  2.03 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  17.00-18.00  sec   290 KBytes  2.37 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  18.00-19.00  sec   342 KBytes  2.80 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  19.00-20.00  sec   411 KBytes  3.36 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  20.00-21.00  sec   600 KBytes  4.92 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  21.00-22.00  sec   775 KBytes  6.35 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  22.00-23.00  sec   859 KBytes  7.04 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  23.00-24.00  sec   876 KBytes  7.18 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  24.00-25.00  sec   581 KBytes  4.76 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  25.00-26.00  sec   451 KBytes  3.70 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  26.00-27.00  sec   274 KBytes  2.25 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  27.00-28.00  sec   314 KBytes  2.57 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  28.00-29.00  sec   347 KBytes  2.85 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  29.00-30.00  sec   342 KBytes  2.80 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  30.00-31.00  sec   298 KBytes  2.44 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  31.00-32.00  sec   271 KBytes  2.22 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  32.00-33.00  sec   311 KBytes  2.55 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  33.00-34.00  sec   368 KBytes  3.02 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  34.00-35.00  sec   297 KBytes  2.43 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  35.00-36.00  sec   302 KBytes  2.48 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  36.00-37.00  sec   283 KBytes  2.32 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  37.00-38.00  sec   264 KBytes  2.17 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  38.00-39.00  sec   212 KBytes  1.74 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  39.00-40.00  sec   249 KBytes  2.04 Mbits/sec                  
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
    [  5]   0.00-40.00  sec  15.9 MBytes  3.34 Mbits/sec   51             sender
    [  5]   0.00-40.00  sec  15.8 MBytes  3.32 Mbits/sec                  receiver
    
    iperf Done.
    
    [email protected]:~# iperf3 -c myip -t40 -p5331 -R
    Connecting to host myip, port 5331
    Reverse mode, remote host myip is sending
    [  5] local 192.168.1.2 port 40568 connected to myip port 5331
    [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
    [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  5.36 MBytes  44.9 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  4.56 MBytes  38.2 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  1.51 MBytes  12.7 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  1.04 MBytes  8.70 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec   963 KBytes  7.89 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec   425 KBytes  3.48 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec   411 KBytes  3.36 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec   388 KBytes  3.18 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec   418 KBytes  3.42 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec   288 KBytes  2.36 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  10.00-11.00  sec   336 KBytes  2.75 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  11.00-12.00  sec   401 KBytes  3.28 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  12.00-13.00  sec   491 KBytes  4.02 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  13.00-14.00  sec   541 KBytes  4.44 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  14.00-15.00  sec   702 KBytes  5.75 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  15.00-16.00  sec  1.12 MBytes  9.40 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  16.00-17.00  sec  1.36 MBytes  11.4 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  17.00-18.00  sec  1.48 MBytes  12.4 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  18.00-19.00  sec  1.41 MBytes  11.8 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  19.00-20.00  sec  1.29 MBytes  10.8 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  20.00-21.00  sec  1.36 MBytes  11.4 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  21.00-22.00  sec  1.18 MBytes  9.88 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  22.00-23.00  sec   824 KBytes  6.75 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  23.00-24.00  sec   571 KBytes  4.68 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  24.00-25.00  sec   240 KBytes  1.97 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  25.00-26.00  sec   270 KBytes  2.21 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  26.00-27.00  sec   274 KBytes  2.25 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  27.00-28.00  sec   309 KBytes  2.53 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  28.00-29.00  sec   283 KBytes  2.32 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  29.00-30.00  sec   290 KBytes  2.37 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  30.00-31.00  sec   318 KBytes  2.60 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  31.00-32.00  sec   312 KBytes  2.56 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  32.00-33.00  sec   336 KBytes  2.75 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  33.00-34.00  sec   322 KBytes  2.64 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  34.00-35.00  sec   322 KBytes  2.64 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  35.00-36.00  sec   309 KBytes  2.53 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  36.00-37.00  sec   345 KBytes  2.82 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  37.00-38.00  sec   278 KBytes  2.28 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  38.00-39.00  sec   229 KBytes  1.88 Mbits/sec                  
    [  5]  39.00-40.00  sec   243 KBytes  1.99 Mbits/sec                  
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
    [  5]   0.00-40.00  sec  35.0 MBytes  7.35 Mbits/sec  109             sender
    [  5]   0.00-40.00  sec  32.8 MBytes  6.88 Mbits/sec                  receiver
    
    iperf Done.
    
  • dfroedfroe Member, Provider

    Unfortunatelly network quality has significantly decreased during the last months.
    There is packet loss nearly every day, sometimes half day long, as you can see from the blue dots in the SmokePing graph below.

    My ticket hasn't been answered for weeks, either.
    I hope cociu is working in the background on his network and services to maintain a better quality in the future.

    SmokePing

    IT Service David Froehlich | Individual network and hosting solutions | AS39083 | RIPE LIR services (IPv4, IPv6, ASN)

  • cociucociu Member, Provider
    edited October 2019

    ****> dfroe said: Unfo

    we know about this issue , we wait to implement +1 upstream this days (top upstream in Romania) and this will be changed. Also we have been focused in the kvm offer because we have faill and this was a nightmare. We have change the module and once the network will be fixed we will start to provide a good solution for our customers. Due of this i have not make more offers in LET , but this will be fixed asap.

    Also you must to know we are still under ddos , so this is cause delay in ping replay.

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