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Cogent or Telia
serverhosh
Member, Host Rep
in General
Cogent or Telia.. Which one would be the Best Transit for USA and Eu Routing. They offer same pricing though. But bit confused to pick any of them.
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Telia. Less letters, less latency.
Cogent only wins in price usually.
NTT, gtt, Telia, .... Cogent, he.
How you can even compare this.
Also, if Cogent gives you the same price as Telia, they are overcharging you. Badly.
You are saying Cogent should be lower than Telia?? Both gave us 12 Months Terms.
Telia is considered more premium than Cogent from what I know.
Or Telia gave him one hell of a good deal.
Nah, Telia wouldn’t match Cogent.
If you’re leaning towards Cogent, OP, then push the price down, you shouldn’t be paying for what effectively is worse quality the same amount of money. Negotiate. Isn’t that what business is all about ?
You’d be surprised of the unusually nice routes you can get to some places with TATA. From Customer service perspective and delivery no one beats the team that worked with us from TATA and if you look at our upstreams, it’s not our first rodeo. Recommended :-).
Case study https://www.tatacommunications.com/customer-story/clouvider/
@Clouvider I only rank those I have experiences with.
I'll be getting some experience with tisparkle soon, we are getting them across the board.
My main gripe with Telia is unplanned maintenance's. Although GTT is pretty bad for that too.
Fair, I was only adding to your post :-).
I’m surprised to hear re: unplanned maintenances. We always get a notice from them at least days if not weeks before, could it be there was some hardware issue on the router you’re connected to perhaps?
India I take not seen many provider with TATA in the mix.
I can't say I know for sure one way or another.
GTT's was due to faulty hardware / configuration though. I guess not entirely their fault, just annoying.
Cogent should be several times cheaper. They always try to overcharge badly.
Indeed. But with a good amount of negotiations and a bigger quantity, you can strike a hell of a deal.
Usually you can get them down to 1/2 of their initial offer. We have both in our mix and it depends. If you just want to run bgp and let bgp select the best paths on his own you want to go with telia. If you are able to optimize your routes cogent can be a good addition to your network.
I have Cogent in my blend through my upstream and no, it's not a good addition to a mix performance wise (in fact, trying my hardest to get rid of it). It's cheap at least though.
Try avoiding Cogent when possible. The performance will be way worse than Telia.
We prepend them 3 times at their peerings with community, and in addition to that we prepend our AS 5 times to them on outbound. On inbound we localpref them below other transits and just increase preference for Cogent Customers, using informational communities.
That works in a way where Cogent is beneficial in the mix - i.e. you don't have a problem reaching Cogent single homed Customers when Cogent's peering with another network is saturated. We basically treat this transit as if it would have been a private peering, but with ability to use full table in case of an emergency.
We monitor the top 40k prefixes (for our asn) for ping / loss and throughput and there are plenty destination networks where cogent is better then telia, believe it or not. But as I said, if you are unable to monitor and adjust routing (being single homed for example) don't touch cogent.
So in our case, we get an email with announcement, then another one with a reminder closer to the date, then another email that they are about to start, then another email when they complete, so basically each instance where they are at risk or plan to be down involves 4 emails.
If you're not getting this, then perhaps the account manager didn't subscribe you to the relevant notifications for some reason. Perhaps worth reaching out to them and see what's up. In any case, I hope it gets better for you! Unannounced maintenance is not acceptable, unless reasonable, like a line card failure or similar, which naturally can't be foreseen.
@Clouvider
is TATA pricing like telia?
same here.
It's competitive is all I can say I'm afraid
They can be aggressive though when they see a growth potential.
I have a good account manager, happy to share his details via PM, I'm sure he can sort out a great offer
please share through pm. ordered our DEC-IX link on friday but always interested to improve our asia connectivity .
I doubt you signed an NDA and are just being assholeish here. I certainly never signed one to not disclose pricing.
NDA is typically included in many transit contracts in the US.
I can see you’re jealous.
Assholish, and frankly damaging to a relationship with you provider, would be to disclose any special pricing. It’s a very much dick move, NDA or not.
interestingly I've been demanded for an NDA just for a quote in the US, but in EU they just give me prices directly..
Neither i am nor CLouvider are in the US
Further my employer is way larger than you or Clouvider in transit usage.
They do not know who i am. I do not deal with this name with upstreams, i deal with my Israeli ID.