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    Popcorn time! Dustin + AdamNG run AlphaRacks and were fired from QN. [Backup your data if possible!]

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    • ChuckChuck Member

      @lonea said:
      Except maybe 74000 of them are chinese

      @Chuck said:

      @SirFoxy said:

      @Chuck said:
      We should report this matter to the FED. It's time to stop these scammers

      I don't really think it's scam enough to get any charges, I just think it's a shit company.

      They said they have over 75000 customers. if they are planning to make a run for the money without offer helping those 75000 already PAID customers.
      This should be reported to the FBI.

      Xi Jinping own 99.9% of them!

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      I like what she said, not what it means.

    • FoulFoul Member

      solaire said: Don't blame them for making a sensible decision. This was bound to happen.

      ... Lol? Adam made a sensible decision to commit fraud?

      Hmmm.

    • solairesolaire Member

      @Foul said:

      solaire said: Don't blame them for making a sensible decision. This was bound to happen.

      ... Lol? Adam made a sensible decision to commit fraud?

      Hmmm.

      I haven't had coffee yet. I'm assuming he's the guy that was fired from QN then? I thought you were blaming Quadranet for pulling the plug in Alpharacks.

    • donlidonli Member

      @pepa65 said:

      How does that make him a real person (and not just a name used by others)

      Isn't there a way in the US to look up CEO's or owners of registered companies?

      Company ownership in the US can be a bit nebulous.

    • doghouchdoghouch Moderator

      @deank said:
      Backups are for pussies. Real men take no backup, no RAID, no protection.

      What about YOLORAID/RAID0 then?

      Thanked by 2uptime Nate812
    • LTnigerLTniger Member

      @doghouch said:

      @deank said:
      Backups are for pussies. Real men take no backup, no RAID, no protection.

      What about YOLORAID/RAID0 then?

      It's still RAID. You go with no RAID at all + no drive monitoring (because of resource consumption matters). You go naked, like into Canadian wilderness and expect the best.

      Wordpress Hosting - Home made!

    • JerryHouJerryHou Member

      Are their servers back online?

    • donlidonli Member
      edited May 20

      @JerryHou said:
      Are their servers back online?

      But no.

      https://stats.uptimerobot.com/QW2MPSy8g

    • JerryHouJerryHou Member

      @donli said:

      @JerryHou said:
      Are their servers back online?

      But no.

      https://stats.uptimerobot.com/QW2MPSy8g

      That's almost 3 days already... feel sorry for those clients who (probably) lose their data...

    • pepa65pepa65 Member

      I thought you were blaming Quadranet for pulling the plug in Alpharacks.

      If QN was going to indefinitely pull the plug on all those customers, giving a week's warning would be more decent, people can rescue their data and cut their losses. But the way it happened is very inconsiderate of QN.

      Thanked by 1lowendclient
    • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

      @pepa65 said:

      I thought you were blaming Quadranet for pulling the plug in Alpharacks.

      If QN was going to indefinitely pull the plug on all those customers, giving a week's warning would be more decent, people can rescue their data and cut their losses. But the way it happened is very inconsiderate of QN.

      Lets say what the leaks have some truth to them. QN has to act quickly and in full force to have a good leg to stand on if things ever went to court.

      If they found out, but then let things sit online for days/weeks, it weakens their case.

      Francisco

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    • donlidonli Member
      edited May 20

      @pepa65 said:

      I thought you were blaming Quadranet for pulling the plug in Alpharacks.

      If QN was going to indefinitely pull the plug on all those customers, giving a week's warning would be more decent, people can rescue their data and cut their losses. But the way it happened is very inconsiderate of QN.

      If there was fraud involved keeping the machines up would allow the fraudsters time to erase their tracks and destroy evidence (including perhaps some of the customer data you are concerned about).

    • angstromangstrom Member

      @pepa65 said:

      I thought you were blaming Quadranet for pulling the plug in Alpharacks.

      If QN was going to indefinitely pull the plug on all those customers, giving a week's warning would be more decent, people can rescue their data and cut their losses. But the way it happened is very inconsiderate of QN.

      Well, the customers belong to AR, not to QN. Strictly speaking, QN don't have an obligation towards the customers of AR.

      "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

    • bugrakocbugrakoc Member

      @pepa65 I think you fail to understand the situation here, as you repeat basically the same thing over and over like a zombie. QN shouldn't know shit about AR customers. AR is the customer here, so if AR fucks up, their plug gets pulled. You can't blame QN for this.

    • BlaZeBlaZe Member, Provider

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    • Check out Quadranet TOS
      https://www.quadranet.com/service-level-agreement
      It's bad they can disconnect you at any time for a rule not previously posted that they find you in violation of, no guarantees to recover your data. Lesson learned never use a host who uses quadranet. I used alpharacks for development hosting, it worked great for 99 cents a year. I would of paid $9 a year for their services so guess who got the better bargain, me. I think Alpharacks could still pull out of this if they wanted to. My main control panel came online for a few hours today (not cpanel though), so they are obviously trying to recover something and have not lost access whcms client information.
      Advice for LEBoxers: Never use a company without listed physical address and real phone number for production, like duh.

    • FR_MichaelFR_Michael Member, Provider

      @donli said:
      Only 75,000?

      A-racks twitter post:

      We have 75000 tickets + open currently, hence the delay.

      It's just 1 sql query to close them all, isn't that the support quality everyone expects?

      Thanked by 2imok taubin
    • BlaZeBlaZe Member, Provider

      ... and Dustin is removed: https://www.quadranet.com/leadership

      Thanked by 1Nate812
    • pepa65pepa65 Member

      Then there is the angle that if there is an entanglement between QN and AlphaRacks as has been amply demontrated, QN stands to financially gain from cutting their loss leader off. Which in that case would be heaping coals on the customers' heads.

    • joepie91joepie91 Member, Provider

      @mansoor said:
      Their Justice server was having issues on Tuesday so they migrated me to Liberty which was another disaster. I finally gave up and took backups and moved all my sites over to another host. 7 hours later, the disaster happened. Soooo darn lucky. Saved by hours.

      If nothing else, those server names should have been a red flag...

    • angstromangstrom Member

      @pepa65 said:
      Then there is the angle that if there is an entanglement between QN and AlphaRacks as has been amply demontrated, QN stands to financially gain from cutting their loss leader off. Which in that case would be heaping coals on the customers' heads.

      Once again: AR is QN's customer, AR's customers aren't QN's customers, nor are customers of customers of AR QN's customers. The relation isn't transitive.

      "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

    • lowendclientlowendclient Member
      edited May 20

      @angstrom said:

      @pepa65 said:
      Then there is the angle that if there is an entanglement between QN and AlphaRacks as has been amply demontrated, QN stands to financially gain from cutting their loss leader off. Which in that case would be heaping coals on the customers' heads.

      Once again: AR is QN's customer, AR's customers aren't QN's customers, nor are customers of customers of AR QN's customers. The relation isn't transitive.

      So what’s the reason QN suspend a user like Alpha? They didn’t pay for the money or abuse?

    • angstromangstrom Member

      @lowendclient said:

      @angstrom said:

      @pepa65 said:
      Then there is the angle that if there is an entanglement between QN and AlphaRacks as has been amply demontrated, QN stands to financially gain from cutting their loss leader off. Which in that case would be heaping coals on the customers' heads.

      Once again: AR is QN's customer, AR's customers aren't QN's customers, nor are customers of customers of AR QN's customers. The relation isn't transitive.

      So what’s the reason QN suspend a user like Alpha? They didn’t pay for the money or abuse?

      Maybe get a cup of tea or coffee and start reading this thread from the beginning, paying attention?

      "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

    • @angstrom said:

      @lowendclient said:

      @angstrom said:

      @pepa65 said:
      Then there is the angle that if there is an entanglement between QN and AlphaRacks as has been amply demontrated, QN stands to financially gain from cutting their loss leader off. Which in that case would be heaping coals on the customers' heads.

      Once again: AR is QN's customer, AR's customers aren't QN's customers, nor are customers of customers of AR QN's customers. The relation isn't transitive.

      So what’s the reason QN suspend a user like Alpha? They didn’t pay for the money or abuse?

      Maybe get a cup of tea or coffee and start reading this thread from the beginning, paying attention?

      I read all. Whatever, if AP paid, no illegal abuse, their service shouldn’t be suspend. Their business dispute shouldn’t be related with the services.

    • solairesolaire Member

      lowendclient said: I read all. Whatever, if AP paid, no illegal abuse, their service shouldn’t be suspend. Their business dispute shouldn’t be related with the services.

      Read again, and again.... until you figure it out.

    • angstromangstrom Member

      @lowendclient said:

      @angstrom said:

      @lowendclient said:

      @angstrom said:

      @pepa65 said:
      Then there is the angle that if there is an entanglement between QN and AlphaRacks as has been amply demontrated, QN stands to financially gain from cutting their loss leader off. Which in that case would be heaping coals on the customers' heads.

      Once again: AR is QN's customer, AR's customers aren't QN's customers, nor are customers of customers of AR QN's customers. The relation isn't transitive.

      So what’s the reason QN suspend a user like Alpha? They didn’t pay for the money or abuse?

      Maybe get a cup of tea or coffee and start reading this thread from the beginning, paying attention?

      I read all. Whatever, if AP paid, no illegal abuse, their service shouldn’t be suspend. Their business dispute shouldn’t be related with the services.

      Thanks for your input.

      "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

    • JackHJackH Moderator

      @QuadraNet_Adam's provider tag has been revoked in the interest of both LET and QN.

      NVMe KVM VPS in Amsterdam, Stockholm, Oslo, Vienna and LA ($2.50/1GB RAM/10GB NVMe/month) (AFF LINK)

    • deankdeank Member
      edited May 20

      lol, if one can't figure out why AP got booted after reading the first post, -

      Well, you were/are meant to be scammed. And you will be scammed again, again.

      If you can't make your point within 5 lines of words, you have an optimization issue.

    • inside83inside83 Member

      @deank said:
      lol, if one can't figure out why AP got booted after reading the first post, -

      Well, you were/are meant to be scammed. And you will be scammed again, again.

      Well I still can't figure out. Would you be so kind and give us the short version?
      From what I'm seeing, two guys who worked at QN were selling to AR (themselves) and not only that they got fired but also their contracts (to themselves) got revoked.
      Is that it?

      Thanked by 1Sofia_K
    • deankdeank Member

      An extreme view is this: A government official using government funds to run his own private business.

      If you can't make your point within 5 lines of words, you have an optimization issue.

    • inside83inside83 Member

      @deank
      So QN is government owned?

      deank said: A government official using government funds to run his own private business.

      Lol, this seems like a regular Tuesday in my country.

      Thanked by 1emgh
    • deankdeank Member

      I give up.

      If you can't make your point within 5 lines of words, you have an optimization issue.

    • Nate812Nate812 Member

      @inside83 said:

      @deank said:
      lol, if one can't figure out why AP got booted after reading the first post, -

      Well, you were/are meant to be scammed. And you will be scammed again, again.

      Well I still can't figure out. Would you be so kind and give us the short version?
      From what I'm seeing, two guys who worked at QN were selling to AR (themselves) and not only that they got fired but also their contracts (to themselves) got revoked.
      Is that it?

      Ever heard of conflict of interest?

    • cybertechcybertech Member

      maybe alpharacks joining psychz now?

      relentless collector of highest clocked, highest performing KVM/NVMe/Gbit VPSes at the most competitive rates. just to hard idle them. zero knowledge on coding/programming; a mere hobbyist.

    • angstromangstrom Member

      Yeah, there seems to be a misconception that QN should care about or feel an obligation towards AR's customers in this case. This isn't how the real world works.

      "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

    • deankdeank Member
      edited May 20

      It's a pattern really. Whenever a host goes belly up, its customers seem to feel entitled that whoever shut their host down are obliged to provide support and "turn on servers for few days to grab backup".

      Another common classic (&comical) suggestion that's made is asking someone who lives nearby the datacenter to pay a visit and grab their server HDD. (For free to boot)

      If you can't make your point within 5 lines of words, you have an optimization issue.

    • @angstrom said:
      Yeah, there seems to be a misconception that QN should care about or feel an obligation towards AR's customers in this case. This isn't how the real world works.

      Yeah no... they shouldn't care and don't care.

      QN is not responsible for their Client's data. It's up to the client to make a full backup or redundancy.

    • Does anyone know name of the company behind alpharacks ? Is it LLC(or equivalent) or just sole proprietor or only several people running business and pretend to be a big company ? I can't find any info about the company in their website and Google. I just wondering who sign the contract on behalf of AR and is it real person or just some alias (or name in AR account that order and make payments to QN).

    • deankdeank Member
      edited May 20

      The owners of AP has a long fucked up history in hosting industry, basically pulling the same shit over and over.

      Their supposed names are revealed in the thread (first post and few pages on actually). Whether it's legal names is another matter.

      If you can't make your point within 5 lines of words, you have an optimization issue.

    • redpriestredpriest Member
      edited May 20

      .

    • I know about that CEO and COO but I think it just another persona/alias/fake profile. Both doesn't have any photo, very small number of connection on LinkedIn, no recommendation from previous co-worker/colleagues but they are CEO and COO for hosting company that have more than "100.000" customers. In whois they use apartment address as contact address not some commercial building address.

      I believe that AR owned by those former QN employee, I just curious about the legal company/persona they use (I am not AR customer). Let's hope QN will sue owner of AR so AR customer will know who is AR owner.

    • smallbibismallbibi Member

      @inside83 said:

      @deank said:
      lol, if one can't figure out why AP got booted after reading the first post, -

      Well, you were/are meant to be scammed. And you will be scammed again, again.

      Well I still can't figure out. Would you be so kind and give us the short version?
      From what I'm seeing, two guys who worked at QN were selling to AR (themselves) and not only that they got fired but also their contracts (to themselves) got revoked.
      Is that it?

      A lot of things could have happened, and you can't really believe everything online. I think by now, the only thing that's been somewhat verified is that some guys from quadranet were working on alpharacks. Any of the following could have happened (purely guesswork):

      1. They were working on alpharacks during working hours at quadranet
      2. They got unreasonably cheap rentals/colocation at quadranet's datacenter
      3. They got free rentals/colocation (highly unlikely, but who knows?)
      Thanked by 1vimalware
    • angstromangstrom Member

      @redpriest said:
      Maybe a bit of contact info could help?

      You signed up to tell us this?

      "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

    • redpriestredpriest Member
      edited May 20

      .

    • smallbibismallbibi Member
      edited May 20

      @redpriest said:
      I signed up to share information about the problem. Why not? You are faced with a business that went down 3 days ago and is providing absolutely no information. Maybe an escalation point could help. What have you contributed? I know a lot about Alpharacks given that they've been the source of a substantial amount of hacking, phishing, malware, and even child pornography. I'd say it's more than an 'internal dispute' at Quadranet given that they have no insight on a piece of property they own at a data center. Smells like a subpoena to me.

      @angstrom said:

      @redpriest said:
      Maybe a bit of contact info could help?

      You signed up to tell us this?

      Read my comment above, it's clearly something more than a mere 'internal dispute'. It's quite likely a matter of fraud. People here have experience with many hosts over the years and have made their educated guesses. Chances are, alpharacks can recover the servers/data but won't be doing so and are running with the money. (Again, I have no sources for this and this is pure speculation.)

    • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Top Provider

      redpriest said: I signed up to share information about the problem. Why not? You are faced with a business that went down 3 days ago and is providing absolutely no information. Maybe an escalation point could help. What have you contributed? I know a lot about Alpharacks given that they've been the source of a substantial amount of hacking, phishing, malware, and even child pornography. I'd say it's more than an 'internal dispute' at Quadranet given that they have no insight on a piece of property they own at a data center. Smells like a subpoena to me.

      Why not just continue to use your @SWRay account?

    • angstromangstrom Member
      edited May 20

      @redpriest said:
      I signed up to share information about the problem. Why not? You are faced with a business that went down 3 days ago and is providing absolutely no information. Maybe an escalation point could help. What have you contributed?

      You appeared out of nowhere, citing someone's dormant Twitter account.

      Most of us know who Julian Jin (at least nominally) is.

      Are you volunteering to try to contact him for us?

      I know a lot about Alpharacks given that they've been the source of a substantial amount of hacking, phishing, malware, and even child pornography. I'd say it's more than an 'internal dispute' at Quadranet given that they have no insight on a piece of property they own at a data center. Smells like a subpoena to me.

      This would be a new twist in the story, but any evidence for this?

      "Linux will run happily with only 4 MB of RAM, including all of the bells and whistles such as the X Window System, Emacs, and so on." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 32)

    • qpsqps Member, Provider

      redpriest said: Maybe a bit of contact info could help?

      How do you know this is someone who is even involved? Doxxing someone who has the same name is not cool. You don't know that this person has any relation to the likely fictional persona used here. Even if it is the correct person, maybe someone just knew them and decided to use their name... they may have no idea about any of this.

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    • deankdeank Member

      @AnthonySmith said:
      Why not just continue to use your @SWRay account?

      Savage, Ant.

      Thanked by 1Sofia_K

      If you can't make your point within 5 lines of words, you have an optimization issue.

    • YuraYura Member

      No time to read the whole thread. Should I prepay for 3 years or not?

    This discussion has been closed.