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Anonymous and safe VPS

Hi, is there any VPS service provider which offers anonymous orders? Meaning no personal data required to order and payments via Crypto.

2 cores, 1gb ram and 20gb space for $7 monthly is what I'm looking for.

Cheers.

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Just in case you are unaware, trying to be anonymous will attract extra attention.

    Thanked by 2eol tcp6
  • @deank said:
    Just in case you are unaware, trying to be anonymous will attract extra attention.

    So true.

    Thanked by 1tcp6
  • eoleol Member
    edited December 2018

    Therefore if you use machines without intel management engines or amd platform security processors aka backdoors keep them offline.

    EDIT:
    Don't use fancy Asus routers also.
    A $40 Netgear will do.

  • gonliSs said: Hi, is there any VPS service provider which offers anonymous orders? Meaning no personal data required to order and payments via Crypto.

    Try Cockbox, but you need to up your budget a bit.

  • cockbox is located in "Niamey, Niamey, Niger (NE)" but basicly its a flokinet service. how to "manipulate"/change the (geo-)location?

  • @gonliSs bitcointalk is for you man.

  • Anonymous and safe VPS
    IP: 127.0.0.1
    7$
    No internet connections

  • Safe from?

  • WebProjectWebProject Host Rep, Veteran

    @vimalware said:
    Safe from?

    Government and copyright law? As normally such requests are for some kind of illegal usage and abuse.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Nah, safe from girlfriends, boyfriends, and parents.

    Those creatures post direct, and immediate, threats.

    Thanked by 1WebProject
  • let me guess

    porn

  • plusnettrplusnettr Member
    edited December 2018

    @bap said:
    let me guess

    porn

    yes porn but illgl porn. maybe.

  • @plusnettr said:

    @bap said:
    let me guess

    porn

    yes porn but illgl porn. maybe.

    From the author's name "gonliSs" I gusee he just want to host a ShadowSocks VPN node...

  • @lowendclient said:

    @plusnettr said:

    @bap said:
    let me guess

    porn

    yes porn but illgl porn. maybe.

    From the author's name "gonliSs" I gusee he just want to host a ShadowSocks VPN node...

    let me guess, to access porn

  • @bap said:

    @lowendclient said:

    @plusnettr said:

    @bap said:
    let me guess

    porn

    yes porn but illgl porn. maybe.

    From the author's name "gonliSs" I gusee he just want to host a ShadowSocks VPN node...

    let me guess, to access porn

    No one care about downloading porn in China, regardless of its 'legality'. Some contents known as child abuse can be directly searched on Baidu image. (Like *doll, even not defined as 'Porn')

    Political speech is the most serious criminal. Most Chinese VPS buyer just want to setup a VPN to accessing Google or Youtube or selling it for others accessing Goole or Youtube (Serious Crime).

    It is very important not to leave any trace of your real identity while accessing, especially publishing politically sensitive content in China. That's one reason why Chinese clients use fake information purchasing a VPS, if the provider leaks the buyer information, it can cause these buyers in jail.

    I believe almost no one Chinese client give their real identity to VPS providers, even they seems 'Real'. MaxMind is totally unnecessary but a obstacle...

    Thanked by 1coreflux
  • @bap said:

    @lowendclient said:

    @plusnettr said:

    @bap said:
    let me guess

    porn

    yes porn but illgl porn. maybe.

    From the author's name "gonliSs" I gusee he just want to host a ShadowSocks VPN node...

    let me guess, to access porn

    Otherwise, why should a Chinese using a VPS accessing porn? There are millions of porn websites in China hasn't been blocked (including countless abuse porn / pirate porn)... You may found lots pirate porn video (mainly JAV) was encoded by Chinese forums with online casino advertising...

    What I mean is China already have the most completely porn source market in the world, far more advance than Europe / America. If the OP know how to use VPS, he must know how to download porn directly in China. And he won't be too stupid to build a new porn website compete with so many large scale porn websites...

    So the purpose of buying a 'Anonymous and safe VPS', a large extent not for porn, but for political usage...

  • @lowendclient said:
    Otherwise, why should a Chinese using a VPS accessing porn? There are millions of porn websites in China hasn't been blocked (including countless abuse porn / pirate porn)... You may found lots pirate porn video (mainly JAV) was encoded by Chinese forums with online casino advertising...

    What I mean is China already have the most completely porn source market in the world, far more advance than Europe / America. If the OP know how to use VPS, he must know how to download porn directly in China. And he won't be too stupid to build a new porn website compete with so many large scale porn websites...

    So the purpose of buying a 'Anonymous and safe VPS', a large extent not for porn, but for political usage...

    I like your way of thinking.

    Thanked by 1lowendclient
  • CrelingCreling Member
    edited December 2018

    lowendclient said: No one care about downloading porn in China, regardless of its 'legality'. Some contents known as child abuse can be directly searched on Baidu image. (Like *doll, even not defined as 'Porn')

    Just to clarify, The Chinese government is less sensitive to child pornography (like the US government) because Chinese government knows that child pornography is not as rampant in China as it is in the United States or other western countries. Pictures that “look like” child porn are just “look like”(but actually not).【Facebook used to treat Vietnam War photos as child pornography, 233333】

    Thanked by 1lowendclient
  • For the OP, find an offshore provider support Bitcoin payment.
    (Offshore not for Hacking/Spam/Child abuse, these are prohibited by any provider)
    (DMCA free only used to avoid US copyright complains, not for multinational corporations like Disney - they have branch in European countries and can complain and take down your VPS from its located country)

    As I familiar with:
    flokinet.is (Tor hosting, DMCA free in Romania)
    hostsolutions.ro (DMCA free in Romania)
    mikrovps.com (DMCA free in Hungary)
    ginernet.com (DMCA free in Spain)
    hostkey.com (DMCA free in Russia)

    Thanked by 1jmginer
  • CrelingCreling Member
    edited December 2018

    lowendclient said: It is very important not to leave any trace of your real identity while accessing, especially publishing politically sensitive content in China. That's one reason why Chinese clients use fake information purchasing a VPS, if the provider leaks the buyer information, it can cause these buyers in jail.

    Just to clarify 2:
    Buying vps is legal. And, if the government really wants you, they always has a faster way to achieve their goals than getting your information from the vps provider. The main reason we are not willing to fill in the real information is that we don't want to disclose out mobile number because we are suffering from Telemarketing.
    Email marketing is not common in China. but telemarketing does. Think about your attitude towards spam, and you will understand our attitude towards telemarketing.

  • bapbap Member
    edited December 2018

    @lowendclient said:

    @bap said:

    @lowendclient said:

    @plusnettr said:

    @bap said:
    let me guess

    porn

    yes porn but illgl porn. maybe.

    From the author's name "gonliSs" I gusee he just want to host a ShadowSocks VPN node...

    let me guess, to access porn

    Otherwise, why should a Chinese using a VPS accessing porn? There are millions of porn websites in China hasn't been blocked (including countless abuse porn / pirate porn)... You may found lots pirate **porn video (mainly JAV) **was encoded by Chinese forums with online casino advertising...

    What I mean is China already have the most completely porn source market in the world, far more advance than Europe / America. If the OP know how to use VPS, he must know how to download porn directly in China. And he won't be too stupid to build a new porn website compete with so many large scale porn websites...

    So the purpose of buying a 'Anonymous and safe VPS', a large extent not for porn, but for political usage...

    different pu**y

    2 cores, 1gb ram and 20gb space

  • @Creling said:

    lowendclient said: No one care about downloading porn in China, regardless of its 'legality'. Some contents known as child abuse can be directly searched on Baidu image. (Like *doll, even not defined as 'Porn')

    Just to clarify, The Chinese government is less sensitive to child pornography (like the US government) because Chinese government knows that child pornography is not as rampant in China as it is in the United States or other western countries. Pictures that “look like” child porn are just “look like”(but actually not).【Facebook used to treat Vietnam War photos as child pornography, 233333】

    To be honestly, nearly no one get into jail because of downloading porn in China. The government won't distinguish what type of porn you download, as well as monitoring Child abuse downloading like Western governments. Unless someone (Even wait until lots of people) report the website link, but its to block the website, wont affect the downloader. I think our cyber crime focus point is completely deviated...

  • @bap said:

    @lowendclient said:

    @bap said:

    @lowendclient said:

    @plusnettr said:

    @bap said:
    let me guess

    porn

    yes porn but illgl porn. maybe.

    From the author's name "gonliSs" I gusee he just want to host a ShadowSocks VPN node...

    let me guess, to access porn

    Otherwise, why should a Chinese using a VPS accessing porn? There are millions of porn websites in China hasn't been blocked (including countless abuse porn / pirate porn)... You may found lots pirate **porn video (mainly JAV) **was encoded by Chinese forums with online casino advertising...

    What I mean is China already have the most completely porn source market in the world, far more advance than Europe / America. If the OP know how to use VPS, he must know how to download porn directly in China. And he won't be too stupid to build a new porn website compete with so many large scale porn websites...

    So the purpose of buying a 'Anonymous and safe VPS', a large extent not for porn, but for political usage...

    different pu**y

    2 cores, 1gb ram and 20gb space

    Emm... Then a forum I think? 20GB can't use to storage actual contents but magnet links...
    Illegal contents can't use normal ways (BT) to download, mostly they use PT to exchange, it will need TB+ spaces.
    Or the OP is tiro :lol: I won't guess casually more, just consider most Chinese buy Anonymous VPS not for Child abuse... Maybe he tells the usage than I can give a solution.

  • @lowendclient said:

    @Creling said:

    lowendclient said: No one care about downloading porn in China, regardless of its 'legality'. Some contents known as child abuse can be directly searched on Baidu image. (Like *doll, even not defined as 'Porn')

    Just to clarify, The Chinese government is less sensitive to child pornography (like the US government) because Chinese government knows that child pornography is not as rampant in China as it is in the United States or other western countries. Pictures that “look like” child porn are just “look like”(but actually not).【Facebook used to treat Vietnam War photos as child pornography, 233333】

    To be honestly, nearly no one get into jail because of downloading porn in China. The government won't distinguish what type of porn you download, as well as monitoring Child abuse downloading like Western governments. Unless someone (Even wait until lots of people) report the website link, but its to block the website, wont affect the downloader. I think our cyber crime focus point is completely deviated...

    Yes, you are right. The Chinese government only punishes uploader but not downloader.
    In fact, it's hard for us to understand why the government wants to monitor citizens' downloads (just like many Western citizens don't understand many things in China)

    As for why Chinese government does do more things on the porn website. over 90% porn websites are hosted outside China. I think Chinese government can do nothing except ban the website.

  • lowendclientlowendclient Member
    edited December 2018

    @Creling said:
    Yes, you are right. The Chinese government only punishes uploader but not downloader.
    In fact, it's hard for us to understand why the government wants to monitor citizens' downloads (just like many Western citizens don't understand many things in China)

    As for why Chinese government does do more things on the porn website. over 90% porn websites are hosted outside China. I think Chinese government can do nothing except ban the website.

    Like Virgin Media in UK, they censor your accessing IP (Such as I can't access yourbittorrent via https) and monitoring P2P download to punish piracy - In order to benefit copyright owners, the big companies. As for terrorism and Child abuse (if detected in public P2P network), it's cyber crime and can cause you into jail.

    China only care about political contents (and terrorism which harm the government) people accesses. As for piracy and child abuse, no time care :lol:

  • CrelingCreling Member
    edited December 2018

    @lowendclient said:

    @Creling said:
    Yes, you are right. The Chinese government only punishes uploader but not downloader.
    In fact, it's hard for us to understand why the government wants to monitor citizens' downloads (just like many Western citizens don't understand many things in China)

    As for why Chinese government does do more things on the porn website. over 90% porn websites are hosted outside China. I think Chinese government can do nothing except ban the website.

    Like Virgin Media in UK, they censor your accessing IP (Such as I can't access yourbittorrent via https) and monitoring P2P download to punish piracy - In order to benefit copyright owners, the big companies. As for terrorism and Child abuse (if detected in public P2P network), it's cyber crime and can cause you into jail.

    China only care about political contents (and terrorism which harm the government) people accesses. As for piracy and child abuse, no time care :lol:

    In China, downloading is not guilty. If you only download, no matter you download anti-government or porn, no police will knock your door.

    I think this is just a different way compared with western country. neither China or western countries should be accused

  • lowendclientlowendclient Member
    edited December 2018

    @Creling said:

    >

    China only care about political contents (and terrorism which harm the government) people accesses. As for piracy and child abuse, no time care :lol:

    In China, downloading is not guilty. If you only download, no matter you download anti-government, porn or horror, no police will knock your door.

    I think this is just a different way compared with western country. neither China or western countries should be accused

    Reading anti-government article is OK, but if you comment on it and caused influences, the government will try their best to track you...

    This is not the main point, the thing I want to say is online Child abuse content is not a serious crime in China, so the OP won't need spend lot of time find a host just for Child abuse contents.

    Logic like this:

    The OP is in China -> What he need is hosting for ->

    Piracy? CN gov careless of it, no need to pay anonymous.

    Spam / Hacking? Chinese local provider is the best choice.

    Adult content / Child abuse? CN gov judge both as normal porn, at most block the domain. Oversea gov will stop track if they find the child abuse publisher in China, at most punish the host provider. No need to pay under anonymous to a oversea provider :lol:

    Not to mention normal porn video is flooding on Chinese internet, people can easily access to high quality porn video for free (Pornhub videos are too ugly to reduce normal sexual desire), to a large extent it helps reduce the amount of pedophilia. As I know online Child abuse contents doesn't have a large market in China, even there are some darknet websites, it is impossible to use Tor in China (The netwok quality is too bad to use), people can't access to those. So the purpose of buying an Anonymous host, build a darknet website hosting child abuse, and face to Chinese visitor is impossible.

    The hosting must for visible usage, most possible is for sharing VPN node for access Google / Youtube or Forum / News website related to political contents...

  • lowendclientlowendclient Member
    edited December 2018

    @Creling said:

    lowendclient said: It is very important not to leave any trace of your real identity while accessing, especially publishing politically sensitive content in China. That's one reason why Chinese clients use fake information purchasing a VPS, if the provider leaks the buyer information, it can cause these buyers in jail.

    Just to clarify 2:
    Buying vps is legal. And, if the government really wants you, they always has a faster way to achieve their goals than getting your information from the vps provider. The main reason we are not willing to fill in the real information is that we don't want to disclose out mobile number because we are suffering from Telemarketing.
    Email marketing is not common in China. but telemarketing does. Think about your attitude towards spam, and you will understand our attitude towards telemarketing.

    It's a good habit not to expose any of your real identity to provider, using different email in different provider. Eg. the Chinese government found a blog with criticism targeting them, the author used double VPN (no access record in ISP log), they can't track the author's IP directly like Baidu tieba. So the first thing they do is to track the website provider and try anything to hack the host. Once the host hacked, they can access to your operating log and find the login IP. If I didn't keep log in my host, they will try to use password access or hacking the user's account of provider, find your payment detail and login email. If you use Alipay or Paypal, you died, they can easily track your payment information. If I use BitPay, they can also track your login email, where it used in other websites and identify who you are. Don't doubt, the gov will do anything you can imagine to find you out. (A blogger host on my VPS post an article about politic, days later I received more than 10 million passwd attempt from CNISP, both in SSH, VPS Panel and Wordpress login page, they may even use Sugon 6000 to brute-force your website if necessary) There are lots of safety measures you need to be a political blogger in China, anonymous hosting is just one part, everything is important.

  • @lowendclient said:

    @Creling said:

    >

    China only care about political contents (and terrorism which harm the government) people accesses. As for piracy and child abuse, no time care :lol:

    In China, downloading is not guilty. If you only download, no matter you download anti-government, porn or horror, no police will knock your door.

    I think this is just a different way compared with western country. neither China or western countries should be accused

    The hosting must for visible usage, most possible is for sharing VPN node for access Google / Youtube or Forum / News website related to political contents...

    I totally agree with your inference.
    All I want to do is to clarify some misunderstandings about China. China is not so good, but not so bad as well.

  • CrelingCreling Member
    edited December 2018

    @lowendclient said:

    @Creling said:

    lowendclient said: It is very important not to leave any trace of your real identity while accessing, especially publishing politically sensitive content in China. That's one reason why Chinese clients use fake information purchasing a VPS, if the provider leaks the buyer information, it can cause these buyers in jail.

    Just to clarify 2:
    Buying vps is legal. And, if the government really wants you, they always has a faster way to achieve their goals than getting your information from the vps provider. The main reason we are not willing to fill in the real information is that we don't want to disclose out mobile number because we are suffering from Telemarketing.
    Email marketing is not common in China. but telemarketing does. Think about your attitude towards spam, and you will understand our attitude towards telemarketing.

    It's a good habit not to expose any of your real identity to provider, using different email in different provider. Eg. the Chinese government found a blog with criticism targeting them, the author used double VPN (no access record in ISP log), they can't track the author's IP directly like Baidu tieba. So the first thing they do is to track the website provider and try anything to hack the host. Once the host hacked, they can access to your operating log and find the login IP. If I didn't keep log in my host, they will try to use password access or hacking the user's account of provider, find your payment detail and login email. If you use Alipay or Paypal, you died, they can easily track your payment information. If I use BitPay, they can also track your login email, where it used in other websites and identify who you are. Don't doubt, the gov will do anything you can imagine to find you out. (A blogger host on my VPS post an article about politic, days later I received more than 10 million passwd attempt from CNISP, both in SSH, VPS Panel and Wordpress login page, they may even use Sugon 6000 to brute-force your website if necessary) There are lots of safety measures you need to be a political blogger in China, anonymous hosting is just one part, everything is important.

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