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Openvz... question

plumbergplumberg Veteran
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Hi all, with openvz based vps, what are the type of things one can use it for? I understand the kernel is shared with the host machine, so not all things may work.

Any suggestions appreciated.

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  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep

    There are more things you can use it for than you can't use it for. Basically if you need access to kernel modules then OpenVZ probably won't work for you (although it depends on the module). For the vast majority of normal use cases (i.e. web, VPN, DNS, mail, gaming, communications, etc...) OpenVZ will work fine.

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  • plumbergplumberg Veteran

    @KuJoe said:
    There are more things you can use it for than you can't use it for. Basically if you need access to kernel modules then OpenVZ probably won't work for you (although it depends on the module). For the vast majority of normal use cases (i.e. web, VPN, DNS, mail, gaming, communications, etc...) OpenVZ will work fine.

    Awesome. Thanks. Can I mount google drive ?

  • doghouchdoghouch Member

    @plumberg said:

    @KuJoe said:
    There are more things you can use it for than you can't use it for. Basically if you need access to kernel modules then OpenVZ probably won't work for you (although it depends on the module). For the vast majority of normal use cases (i.e. web, VPN, DNS, mail, gaming, communications, etc...) OpenVZ will work fine.

    Awesome. Thanks. Can I mount google drive ?

    It depends if your provider is willing to enable fuse for you.

    If they refuse, well... you’re SOL.

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  • plumbergplumberg Veteran

    @doghouch said:

    @plumberg said:

    @KuJoe said:
    There are more things you can use it for than you can't use it for. Basically if you need access to kernel modules then OpenVZ probably won't work for you (although it depends on the module). For the vast majority of normal use cases (i.e. web, VPN, DNS, mail, gaming, communications, etc...) OpenVZ will work fine.

    Awesome. Thanks. Can I mount google drive ?

    It depends if your provider is willing to enable fuse for you.

    If they refuse, well... you’re SOL.

    Thnx. Will check

  • h2oh2o Member

    You can do everything except some applications which are need modprobe.

  • CyberMondayCyberMonday Member

    Long story short, your network interface is virtualized, your disk is virtualized (usually ploop), and you're stuck on a 2.6 kernel fork without a real init.

    If you want to manage your system, you don't want OpenVZ. If you're happy bitching when you break something by trying to upgrade to a distribution release less than 3 years old, then OpenVZ is for you.

  • mikhomikho Member, Host Rep

    @CyberMonday said:
    Long story short, your network interface is virtualized, your disk is virtualized (usually ploop), and you're stuck on a 2.6 kernel fork without a real init.

    If you want to manage your system, you don't want OpenVZ. If you're happy bitching when you break something by trying to upgrade to a distribution release less than 3 years old, then OpenVZ is for you.

    Unless you use OpenVZ 7

  • CyberMondayCyberMonday Member

    @mikho said:

    @CyberMonday said:
    Long story short, your network interface is virtualized, your disk is virtualized (usually ploop), and you're stuck on a 2.6 kernel fork without a real init.

    If you want to manage your system, you don't want OpenVZ. If you're happy bitching when you break something by trying to upgrade to a distribution release less than 3 years old, then OpenVZ is for you.

    Unless you use OpenVZ 7

    ... Then NOTHING works. ;)

  • mikhomikho Member, Host Rep

    @CyberMonday said:

    @mikho said:

    @CyberMonday said:
    Long story short, your network interface is virtualized, your disk is virtualized (usually ploop), and you're stuck on a 2.6 kernel fork without a real init.

    If you want to manage your system, you don't want OpenVZ. If you're happy bitching when you break something by trying to upgrade to a distribution release less than 3 years old, then OpenVZ is for you.

    Unless you use OpenVZ 7

    ... Then NOTHING works. ;)

    Mine works. Still a few things need manual tweaking (ie. Not available in the GUI used to manage the containers)

  • CyberMondayCyberMonday Member

    @mikho said:

    @CyberMonday said:

    @mikho said:

    @CyberMonday said:
    Long story short, your network interface is virtualized, your disk is virtualized (usually ploop), and you're stuck on a 2.6 kernel fork without a real init.

    If you want to manage your system, you don't want OpenVZ. If you're happy bitching when you break something by trying to upgrade to a distribution release less than 3 years old, then OpenVZ is for you.

    Unless you use OpenVZ 7

    ... Then NOTHING works. ;)

    Mine works. Still a few things need manual tweaking (ie. Not available in the GUI used to manage the containers)

    Don't worry - SolusVM 2 will be available last-last-last July!

  • mikhomikho Member, Host Rep

    @CyberMonday said:

    @mikho said:

    @CyberMonday said:

    @mikho said:

    @CyberMonday said:
    Long story short, your network interface is virtualized, your disk is virtualized (usually ploop), and you're stuck on a 2.6 kernel fork without a real init.

    If you want to manage your system, you don't want OpenVZ. If you're happy bitching when you break something by trying to upgrade to a distribution release less than 3 years old, then OpenVZ is for you.

    Unless you use OpenVZ 7

    ... Then NOTHING works. ;)

    Mine works. Still a few things need manual tweaking (ie. Not available in the GUI used to manage the containers)

    Don't worry - SolusVM 2 will be available last-last-last July!

    I’m not worried. I don’t use Solus :).

  • CyberMondayCyberMonday Member

    @mikho said:

    @CyberMonday said:

    @mikho said:

    @CyberMonday said:

    @mikho said:

    @CyberMonday said:
    Long story short, your network interface is virtualized, your disk is virtualized (usually ploop), and you're stuck on a 2.6 kernel fork without a real init.

    If you want to manage your system, you don't want OpenVZ. If you're happy bitching when you break something by trying to upgrade to a distribution release less than 3 years old, then OpenVZ is for you.

    Unless you use OpenVZ 7

    ... Then NOTHING works. ;)

    Mine works. Still a few things need manual tweaking (ie. Not available in the GUI used to manage the containers)

    Don't worry - SolusVM 2 will be available last-last-last July!

    I’m not worried. I don’t use Solus :).

    I only have a few OVZ 7 nodes, but I really hope that support for it dies off after 6 with mainstream tools. It's an answer to a problem which no longer exists. Sure, it lets you oversell the hell out of the hardware, but, really, why?

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep

    @CyberMonday said:
    I only have a few OVZ 7 nodes, but I really hope that support for it dies off after 6 with mainstream tools. It's an answer to a problem which no longer exists. Sure, it lets you oversell the hell out of the hardware, but, really, why?

    If you're only using OpenVZ because of overselling then:
    1) You're using OpenVZ wrong.
    2) You're using Xen/KVM wrong.

  • CyberMondayCyberMonday Member

    @KuJoe said:

    @CyberMonday said:
    I only have a few OVZ 7 nodes, but I really hope that support for it dies off after 6 with mainstream tools. It's an answer to a problem which no longer exists. Sure, it lets you oversell the hell out of the hardware, but, really, why?

    If you're only using OpenVZ because of overselling then:
    1) You're using OpenVZ wrong.
    2) You're using Xen/KVM wrong.

    I didn't mean that as a personal use stance; people like OpenVZ because it means less maintenance for them; Administrators like it because you have finer control over it than KVMs. I just think it's had its' day.

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