[KIMSUFI] Flash sale KS-3 (FR Datacenter)
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[KIMSUFI] Flash sale KS-3 (FR Datacenter)

ninzo59ninzo59 Member, Provider
edited September 26 in Offers

Hello guys,

September.. what a great time to re-launch flash sales on kimsufi, don't you think ? :)

Remember, a flash sale is recurrent, you will get this server at the discounted price for life !

It's available only through European websites of kimsufi. Further flash sale will be world wide.

Details of the offer:

KS-3 (FR Datacenter only)

  • Intel Atom N2800
  • 2c/4t @ 1.86GHz
  • 4GB DDR3 1066 MHz
  • 2TB

5.99€ (instead of 7.99€)

(+9.99€ of setup fee)

https://www.kimsufi.com/en/servers.xml?flash

Cheers,

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  • Nice offer.

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  • Hello. Where link to US users??

  • ofitofit Member
    edited September 26

    Ok. Only EU.

  • You could edit your post to mention 9.99 EUR setup fee?

  • @ofit said:
    Ok. Only EU.

    US users can also sign up through this link.

  • What about some i3 or i5 flash sale? :P

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  • ninzo59ninzo59 Member, Provider

    @adamluk said:
    You could edit your post to mention 9.99 EUR setup fee?

    Done ;)

    @dedipromo said:

    @ofit said:
    Ok. Only EU.

    US users can also sign up through this link.

    Yes right, you can't just through the US website.> @DemoroCZE said:

    What about some i3 or i5 flash sale? :P

    Be patient, not until november though :)

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  • sammsamm Member
    edited September 26

    Ok thanks.

  • Just curious (anyone can reply): does IPv6 /128 work well in practice?

    "[T]he number of UNIX installations has grown to 16, with more expected." (K. Thompson & D. M. Ritchie, UNIX Programmer's Manual, 3ed, 1973)

  • NeoonNeoon Member
    edited September 26

    You actually got a /64 but no one at OVH tells you that.
    Some people could even use a /56 no idea if OVH fixed it.

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  • @Neoon said:
    You actually got a /64 but no one at OVH tells you that.
    Some people could even use a /56 no idea if OVH fixed it.

    Ah, good to know. I'm surprised that they advertise /128, which is highly unusual.

    "[T]he number of UNIX installations has grown to 16, with more expected." (K. Thompson & D. M. Ritchie, UNIX Programmer's Manual, 3ed, 1973)

  • I already got mine. Thanks for the promotion!

  • Thanks for the heads up! It took me several minutes to remember, that I can't use my OVH credentials at kimsufi. lol

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  • that_guy said: I can't use my OVH credentials at kimsufi.

    You can't even use your KS credentials across country based sites either.

  • I'm tempted, but I think that I'll sleep on it. :smile:

    "[T]he number of UNIX installations has grown to 16, with more expected." (K. Thompson & D. M. Ritchie, UNIX Programmer's Manual, 3ed, 1973)

  • @angstrom said:
    I'm tempted, but I think that I'll sleep on it. :smile:

    you may get nightmares about missing the train. are you sure? hhhahah

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  • saibalsaibal Member
    edited September 26

    Does KS still have the 14 day order payment policy? If so @angstrom can just get it today and think on it for the next two weeks before payment.

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  • @ehab said:

    @angstrom said:
    I'm tempted, but I think that I'll sleep on it. :smile:

    you may get nightmares about missing the train. are you sure? hhhahah

    Well, I hope that I won't dream about Kimsufi!

    By the way (for anyone), are KS disks reliable? I mean, has anyone lost data at KS because of a disk that goes bad?

    "[T]he number of UNIX installations has grown to 16, with more expected." (K. Thompson & D. M. Ritchie, UNIX Programmer's Manual, 3ed, 1973)

  • @angstrom said:
    By the way (for anyone), are KS disks reliable? I mean, has anyone lost data at KS because of a disk that goes bad?

    even with old age they are fine. There was one or two cases of complaints in the past were changes but not so fast.

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  • @saibal said:
    Does KS still have the 14 day order payment policy? If so @angstrom can just get it today and think on it for the next two weeks before payment.

    Since it's France, it should be the case, but one has to look far to find the relevant text:

    https://www.kimsufi.com/fr/documents_legaux/conditions_generales_de_service_Kimsufi.pdf

    It's under 12.1.2 on page 15.

    But if one wants to cancel using this option, one has to send a paper letter to Kimsufi (by recommended delivery), which is too much of a pain, so I personally wouldn't bother with this possibility.

    "[T]he number of UNIX installations has grown to 16, with more expected." (K. Thompson & D. M. Ritchie, UNIX Programmer's Manual, 3ed, 1973)

  • saibalsaibal Member
    edited September 26

    It also mentions that you can cancel from the management interface:

    Le Client doit exercer son droit de rétractation avant l’expiration du délai précité soit depuis son Interface de gestion via le formulaire prévu à cet effet

    The Customer must exercise his right of withdrawal before the expiry of the aforementioned period either from its Management Interface via the form provided for this purpose

    I have never seen a cancellation button on the interface though. There is, however, a "no renewal" option on the renewal page.

    I agree cancellation through a paper letter is too much of a hassle for a KS.

    @angstrom said: By the way (for anyone), are KS disks reliable? I mean, has anyone lost data at KS because of a disk that goes bad?

    I have a KS-1 with a 50K+ hours disk still going strong. No important stuff on it though. I have never had to replace a KS disk yet. No idea how that works or how long it takes.

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  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited September 26

    "recurring for lifetime" in the OVH world is the timeframe between one of Ole's brainfarts and the next capital funding round.

    Funny that this thread is set to sink, by the way.

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  • @saibal said: It also mentions that you can cancel from the management interface:

    Ah, you're right, I missed that -- I was focused on the formulaire de rétractation that they give on that page.

    In any case, I personally would just decide before I buy it.

    "[T]he number of UNIX installations has grown to 16, with more expected." (K. Thompson & D. M. Ritchie, UNIX Programmer's Manual, 3ed, 1973)

  • By the way, if one compares Kimsufi with WorldStream, is there a clear preference?

    "[T]he number of UNIX installations has grown to 16, with more expected." (K. Thompson & D. M. Ritchie, UNIX Programmer's Manual, 3ed, 1973)

  • angstromangstrom Member
    edited September 26

    @Amitz said: "recurring for lifetime" in the OVH world is the timeframe between one of Ole's brainfarts and the next capital funding round.

    I see that you're not so positive. :smile:

    I think that I would grant them "the discounted price for life" -- this doesn't really worry me. :smile:

    "[T]he number of UNIX installations has grown to 16, with more expected." (K. Thompson & D. M. Ritchie, UNIX Programmer's Manual, 3ed, 1973)

  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited September 26

    I was actually only commenting to see if this thread is set to sink and tried to be half funny while doing so... 😜

    "Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart."

  • @Amitz said: Funny that this thread is set to sink, by the way.

    Good observation. Probably it's deemed to be "not of sufficient interest" by we-know-who ...

    "[T]he number of UNIX installations has grown to 16, with more expected." (K. Thompson & D. M. Ritchie, UNIX Programmer's Manual, 3ed, 1973)

  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited September 26

    Exactly my thought... The LET as of today.

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    "Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart."

  • rm_rm_ Member
    edited September 26

    Amitz said: "recurring for lifetime" in the OVH world is the timeframe between one of Ole's brainfarts and the next capital funding round.

    Indeed. Focusing on how it's "this discounted price for life" is this thread's biggest joke. I already got a price hike on two previous "flash sale" Kimsufi servers. And now they resort to dishonest advertising like that.

  • Can I run Windows with that CPU?

  • @rm_ said:

    Amitz said: "recurring for lifetime" in the OVH world is the timeframe between one of Ole's brainfarts and the next capital funding round.

    Indeed. Focusing on how it's "this discounted price for life" is this thread's biggest joke. I already got a price hike on two previous "flash sale" Kimsufi servers.

    Really?

    For this flash sale, they do say on the corresponding web page, "Tarif valable jusqu'à résiliation, sans limite d'engagement !", which basically means "Price valid until cancellation, without minimal commitment!".

    "[T]he number of UNIX installations has grown to 16, with more expected." (K. Thompson & D. M. Ritchie, UNIX Programmer's Manual, 3ed, 1973)

  • @quick said:
    Can I run Windows with that CPU?

    I don't think that Windows is allowed.

    "[T]he number of UNIX installations has grown to 16, with more expected." (K. Thompson & D. M. Ritchie, UNIX Programmer's Manual, 3ed, 1973)

  • Windows runs just fine.....no problem

  • @angstrom said:

    @quick said:
    Can I run Windows with that CPU?

    I don't think that Windows is allowed.

    Why not

  • @quick said:

    @angstrom said:

    @quick said:
    Can I run Windows with that CPU?

    I don't think that Windows is allowed.

    Why not

    Because KS does not allow Windows on their servers. From https://www.kimsufi.com/us/faq/

  • Vova1234Vova1234 Member, Provider
    edited September 27

    quick said: Can I run Windows with that CPU?

    You will not be able to install Windows via Qemu. The processor does not have KVM support:

    Could not access KVM kernel module: No such file or directory
    failed to initialize KVM: No such file or directory

    For all other processors you can easily install Windows from rescue: http://vova1234.com/blog/notes/426.html if there is no windows in templates.

    saibal said: I have never had to replace a KS disk yet. No idea how that works or how long it takes.

    Disks have changed many times, now they change 1 click through the API: https://abcvg.ovh/blog/dc_ovh/73.html

    By the way (for anyone), are KS disks reliable? I mean, has anyone lost data at KS because of a disk that goes bad?

    No. If you are not a noob and you know how to make backup, you can easily restore it on another server.

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  • got one, nice offer

  • rm_rm_ Member

    angstrom said: Really?

    For this flash sale, they do say on the corresponding web page, "Tarif valable jusqu'à résiliation, sans limite d'engagement !", which basically means "Price valid until cancellation, without minimal commitment!".

    This note is present on every flash sale. And here is the reality:
    https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/126143/ovh-increased-cost-for-antiddos-again

    +1 € / month for Kimsufi, +2 € / month for SoYouStart, +5 € / month for OVH servers with 1Gbps network and +10 € / month for OVH servers with 10Gbps / 25Gbps / 40Gbps network. For VPS, the cost of Anti-DDoS will be +1 € / month. For Public Cloud, the cost of Anti-DDoS will be + 2 € / month for VMs in public bandwidth 250Mbps and + 5 € / month for VMs in public bandwidth of 500Mbps.

  • rm_rm_ Member
    edited September 27

    Vova1234 said: You will not be able to install Windows via Qemu. The processor does not have KVM support:

    You do not need KVM to run Qemu. It runs fine on the Atom N2800 without KVM, in software mode. But yeah, very slow. I did not try to install Windows that way (I don't need to), but that's even how their own "vKVM" ("virtual KVM switch") rescue system worked back in 2013 or so. It was booting your actual OS on HDD via Qemu and giving you VNC access to it -- yes, even on the N2800!

  • @rm_ said:

    angstrom said: Really?

    For this flash sale, they do say on the corresponding web page, "Tarif valable jusqu'à résiliation, sans limite d'engagement !", which basically means "Price valid until cancellation, without minimal commitment!".

    This note is present on every flash sale. And here is the reality:
    https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/126143/ovh-increased-cost-for-antiddos-again

    +1 € / month for Kimsufi, +2 € / month for SoYouStart, +5 € / month for OVH servers with 1Gbps network and +10 € / month for OVH servers with 10Gbps / 25Gbps / 40Gbps network. For VPS, the cost of Anti-DDoS will be +1 € / month. For Public Cloud, the cost of Anti-DDoS will be + 2 € / month for VMs in public bandwidth 250Mbps and + 5 € / month for VMs in public bandwidth of 500Mbps.

    Okay, but that was a bit different in the sense that it was an across-the-board price increase for anti-DDoS protection. So, yes, it was a price increase, but it was a price increase across the board for anti-DDoS protection. It wasn't a price increase that applied to the flash sale product alone to cancel the original discount.

    "[T]he number of UNIX installations has grown to 16, with more expected." (K. Thompson & D. M. Ritchie, UNIX Programmer's Manual, 3ed, 1973)

  • @quick said:

    @angstrom said:

    @quick said:
    Can I run Windows with that CPU?

    I don't think that Windows is allowed.

    Why not

    I should have elaborated, but I meant that it was against KS rules, as @saibal made clear.

    Naturally, it's another question if one wants to bypass the rules.

    "[T]he number of UNIX installations has grown to 16, with more expected." (K. Thompson & D. M. Ritchie, UNIX Programmer's Manual, 3ed, 1973)

  • rm_rm_ Member

    angstrom said: It wasn't a price increase that applied to the flash sale product alone to cancel the original discount.

    Sure it's not up to the non-discounted price, but still. Economics of the deal changes a bit, and to make it worse there's the setup fee, which you thought you'd justify in so and so years or months, and that's now out of the window. Who knows maybe next time they will add not 1, but 2 or 3 EUR. And that it's "across the board" does not make it automatically okay. Not to mention that since then other products had their prices lowered (e.g. the VPS-SSD is back to the pre-increase prices), but of course on the existing services the higher price stays.

  • @rm_ said:

    angstrom said: It wasn't a price increase that applied to the flash sale product alone to cancel the original discount.

    Sure it's not up to the non-discounted price, but still. Economics of the deal changes a bit, and to make it worse there's the setup fee, which you thought you'd justify in so and so years or months, and that's now out of the window. Who knows maybe next time they will add not 1, but 2 or 3 EUR. And that it's "across the board" does not make it automatically okay. Not to mention that since then other products had their prices lowered (e.g. the VPS-SSD is back to the pre-increase prices), but of course on the existing services the higher price stays.

    I see your general point. I can't say to what extent the across-the-board price increase for anti-DDoS protection was justified. It may have partly been a way to compensate for global losses. Hard to say.

    My direct concern was whether they had cancelled the discounted price for the flash sale product, but apparently they didn't, so minimally this is good.

    Anyway, I'm still on the fence about the KS-3.

    "[T]he number of UNIX installations has grown to 16, with more expected." (K. Thompson & D. M. Ritchie, UNIX Programmer's Manual, 3ed, 1973)

  • NeoonNeoon Member
    edited September 27

    If kimsufi says, you got only a /128 its fake news.
    if kimsufi says you cannot install windows, its fake news.

    People tell a lot of shit daily, do not belive in what they tell you.

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  • I'm surprised that most models are STILL available! Did they build a huge new kimsufi DC with 100.000 servers or something? Cause usually all cheap offers on OVH/SyS/Kimsufi sell out within 2 minutes (e.g. the SyS ARM storage servers). And you're even allowed to order more than 1!

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  • rm_rm_ Member
    edited September 27

    that_guy said: surprised that most models are STILL available

    If you mean this particular offer, it's just a bit mediocre, only 2 EUR off the list price (-25%). And it was pretty much always available at its normal price of 7.99. People who needed one already got theirs, and not many of them will want to reorder and migrate, because of the hassle and the setup fee. Speaking of which, I'd probably get one to check it out and maybe use for a few months, but the setup fee costing almost 2 months of use kills that idea completely.

  • @that_guy said:
    I'm surprised that most models are STILL available! Did they build a huge new kimsufi DC with 100.000 servers or something? Cause usually all cheap offers on OVH/SyS/Kimsufi sell out within 2 minutes (e.g. the SyS ARM storage servers). And you're even allowed to order more than 1!

    I've always thought that KS-1 and KS-2 were the products that were hard to get. Less so for the other (higher) products.

    "[T]he number of UNIX installations has grown to 16, with more expected." (K. Thompson & D. M. Ritchie, UNIX Programmer's Manual, 3ed, 1973)

  • ninzo59ninzo59 Member, Provider

    @rm_ said:

    that_guy said: surprised that most models are STILL available

    If you mean this particular offer, it's just a bit mediocre, only 2 EUR off the list price (-25%). And it was pretty much always available at its normal price of 7.99. People who needed one already got theirs, and not many of them will want to reorder and migrate, because of the hassle and the setup fee. Speaking of which, I'd probably get one to check it out and maybe use for a few months, but the setup fee costing almost 2 months of use kills that idea completely.

    Please remember we dropped price on all kimsufi servers for 4 months. Prices are already really cheap, so 25% on it is in fact quite attractive..

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  • @ninzo59 said:
    Please remember we dropped price on all kimsufi servers for 4 months. Prices are already really cheap, so 25% on it is in fact quite attractive..

    I would hardly consider 50% off a barrel of shit "attractive". I mean, seriously, I've owned pocket calculators with more features and horsepower than these N2800. With the SyS ARM NAS, a bit underpowered but with over 2.5times the bandwidfth, you are your own competitor...

    Providing less than /64 means "we are clueless about IPv6".

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