Any reason why I should not buy the Mi Pad 4 for 150€?
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Any reason why I should not buy the Mi Pad 4 for 150€?

Looking to get a budget android tablet for myself mainly for surfing and watching netflix&prime etc and some casual games like SFgame, Idle Heroes... Budget is max. 200€.
I was looking at the Kindle with 10 inches for 150€ish but the Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Wifi 32 GB ROM and 3GB RAM along with Snapdragon 660 and their highly praised colorful IPS display looks just a bit nicer. Plus we've already a kindle in the family (my dad has one as I already made a thread some time prior to this one). Mi Pad 4 only has 8 inches but that's aight by me.

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  • Are you reading my mind or something?

    Currently looking at the gearbest site for the 4GB/64GB model of this tablet at 200 EUR.

    Also, looking at the same site for the Lenovo P8 (3GB, Snapdragon 625). This one costs around 115 EUR, and probably would be enough for casual usage.

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  • @yomero said:
    Are you reading my mind or something?

    Currently looking at the gearbest site for the 4GB/64GB model of this tablet at 200 EUR.

    Also, looking at the same site for the Lenovo P8 (3GB, Snapdragon 625). This one costs around 115 EUR, and probably would be enough for casual usage.

    Hehe^^

    Well I've also found some cheaper ones but tbh I really like the Mi Pad 4 design and it is supposed to draw out the best of the IPS panel. Only downside is apparently due to Widevine level 3 (google it) supposedly it can't stream netflix in HD although netflix somewhere states Snapdragon 660 can stream it in HD and users who install Netflix via apkmirror don't have the problem either. I just checked via app "DRM Info" and my Xiaomi Mi A 1 phone also has Level 3 while only Level 1 is supposedly allowed to stream Netflix in HD (it's basically some sort of DRM). I tested on my phone and while I shouldn't be able to my movies on flix stream crystal clear without appearing to use 480p only. Don't really know what to think of this now haha.

  • Kiwi83Kiwi83 Member
    edited September 9

    I was about to share some first hand experience then I saw your reply to yomero. Well, maybe you know much more than I do about MiPad 4. LOL

    I'd say just buy it since you've already done a lot research. It's totally worth the money if you really need a tablet. It doesn't have any big drawbacks that makes me regret afterward. Not a bad choice for watching movies and play cusual games. The screen is a little small for reading PDF files though.

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  • YmpkerYmpker Member
    edited September 9

    @Kiwi83 said:
    I was about share some first hand experience then I saw your reply to yomero. Well, maybe you know much more than I do about MiPad 4. LOL

    I'd say just buy it since you've already done a lot research. It's totally worth the money if you really need a tablet. It doesn't have any big drawbacks that makes me regret afterward. Not a bad choice for watching movies and play cusual games. The screen is a little small for reading PDF files though.

    Haha :D Well I've just done a bit of reading to be fair. Anyway can you whatsoever reproduce that Netflix HD issue or is it crisp for you too? Where did you buy it? Aliexpress/Gearbest/Tradingshenzen..?

    Yeah not planning to read a lot of PDFs haha

  • One of the problems with Xiaomi android devices (coming from a Mi 5 user) is the software: it is trash.

    The software is absolutely terrible for any western user, especially since push notifications don't get delivered properly.

    I ended up rooting and installing Lineage OS which ruins the battery life.

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  • @ehhthing said:
    One of the problems with Xiaomi android devices (coming from a Mi 5 user) is the software: it is trash.

    The software is absolutely terrible for any western user, especially since push notifications don't get delivered properly.

    I ended up rooting and installing Lineage OS which ruins the battery life.

    Isn't MiUI loved my so many ppl? Anyway thanks for the mention.

  • Go for it ... +1 for Xiaomi

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  • @ehhthing said:
    One of the problems with Xiaomi android devices (coming from a Mi 5 user) is the software: it is trash.

    The software is absolutely terrible for any western user, especially since push notifications don't get delivered properly.

    I ended up rooting and installing Lineage OS which ruins the battery life.

    I use MiUI and it's amazing, no problem whatsoever with notifications on my Mi5. Way better than Samsung's crap.

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  • @Hybrid said:

    @ehhthing said:
    One of the problems with Xiaomi android devices (coming from a Mi 5 user) is the software: it is trash.

    The software is absolutely terrible for any western user, especially since push notifications don't get delivered properly.

    I ended up rooting and installing Lineage OS which ruins the battery life.

    I use MiUI and it's amazing, no problem whatsoever with notifications on my Mi5. Way better than Samsung's crap.

    In my books, Miui is much worse than Samsung, but Samsung is already pretty bad.

    Pure Android FTW!

  • ehhthing said: I ended up rooting and installing Lineage OS which ruins the battery life.

    Is that with the LOS official ROM for the device?

  • @ehhthing said:
    One of the problems with Xiaomi android devices (coming from a Mi 5 user) is the software: it is trash.

    The software is absolutely terrible for any western user, especially since push notifications don't get delivered properly.

    I ended up rooting and installing Lineage OS which ruins the battery life.

    Yes this could be annoying. Though MIUI is quite popular among Chinese users, it's not designed for people from other countries. Many features that makes it unique are removed in English version.

    I bought one from a local store last month when I was in China. Google services are not install by defualt. I had to do some hacks to make YouTube and other Google Apps work properly.
    I don't know wether they have a version with Google services installed for international market.

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  • YuraYura Member

    I love my Mi Pad 1. MIUI is rock solid for me but I went with custom Lineage for Android 7 support.

    Mi Pad 4 sounds awesome except the screen. Not sure if it's good or not. Resolution ans ppi are not very high.

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  • The Mi pad 4 look's awesome for the price! I'd get it.
    Just for fun, also have a look at the Samsung galaxy tab s2 before you buy.
    It's old'ish, but: 3:2 OLED (8 & 10"), superthin, superlight! Very tempting to me, but starts at 230€.

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  • @Kiwi83 said:

    @ehhthing said:
    One of the problems with Xiaomi android devices (coming from a Mi 5 user) is the software: it is trash.

    The software is absolutely terrible for any western user, especially since push notifications don't get delivered properly.

    I ended up rooting and installing Lineage OS which ruins the battery life.

    Yes this could be annoying. Though MIUI is quite popular among Chinese users, it's not designed for people from other countries. Many features that makes it unique are removed in English version.

    I bought one from a local store last month when I was in China. Google services are not install by defualt. I had to do some hacks to make YouTube and other Google Apps work properly.
    I don't know wether they have a version with Google services installed for international market.

    Had to install google services / play store on my dad's Fire HD as well so not a big deal^^

  • @ehhthing said:
    One of the problems with Xiaomi android devices (coming from a Mi 5 user) is the software: it is trash.

    The software is absolutely terrible for any western user, especially since push notifications don't get delivered properly.

    I ended up rooting and installing Lineage OS which ruins the battery life.

    There is settings for every app, notification, battery usage etc. Allow app to run in the background and enable notifications, you will be good

  • edited September 10

    I am owning an mi pad 4 (3GB/32GB) for $170 and has been using it for more than a month now.
    Using the Stock rom (chinese) but switched to English (you can choose English when you first setup the tablet) and install Playstore (with an APK to install Google services from miui forum). No need to root or unlock bootloader.

    It's running better than 625 (double the performance), MIUI no button gestures are great and the tablet fit in hand. No bad comment so far.
    The only down side is that it has some bloatware which can't be removed, but I guess every android devices have some, even samsung or sony.

    Note: The screen is 8 inch FullHD+ so it's a little unsatisfying when you look at it up close.

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  • SpeedBusSpeedBus Member, Provider
    edited September 10

    There's a mi pad 4 plus as well with a 10" screen with similar ish cost.

    Only thing to keep in mind for Netflix / Amazon PrimeVideo is that it doesn't carry WideVine L1 support, so you can't play HD Netflix / PrimeVideo on it.

    Edit: I'd go for the 4GB RAM varient if the cost difference isnt too much, just having a bit extra helps at times with heavy games/futureproof-ness.

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  • I would go for it too. Xiaomi makes really good products for a great price. Got myself a Xiaomi Mi Notebook Pro, can't be happier! This thing is really well built and costs half the price of similar high-end laptops...

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  • ManofServerManofServer Member
    edited September 10

    The reason against would be that casual gaming and netflix/prime are not worthwhile activities that require an investment of capital in order to sustain them.

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  • edited September 10

    SpeedBus said: There's a mi pad 4 plus as well with a 10" screen with similar ish cost.

    I really don't recommend getting bigger screen while the 8-inch is just on the acceptable margin.

  • hostdarehostdare Member, Provider

    I am using two cheap xiaomi phones under 200 usd ( well even less than 150 usd o be exact ) . They do what they advertise for . It is better to buy cheap phones or tab these days than shelling 1k for a iphone or ipad . At this cheap cost , you can change your tab every year with new features and spec without getting bankrupt .

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  • @ManofServer said:
    The reason against would be that casual gaming and netflix/prime are not worthwhile activities that require an investment of capital in order to sustain them.

    And that's for you to decide? My girlfriend and me wanted to watch some Netflix in our apartment and found our phones too small while we didn't wanna bring a (huge) laptop.

  • @Ympker said:

    @ManofServer said:
    The reason against would be that casual gaming and netflix/prime are not worthwhile activities that require an investment of capital in order to sustain them.

    And that's for you to decide? My girlfriend and me wanted to watch some Netflix in our apartment and found our phones too small while we didn't wanna bring a (huge) laptop.

    Why not buy this?

  • @Ympker said:
    And that's for you to decide? My girlfriend and me wanted to watch some Netflix in our apartment and found our phones too small while we didn't wanna bring a (huge) laptop.

    You could get a projector on EBay if that's cheaper.

  • @saibal said:

    @Ympker said:
    And that's for you to decide? My girlfriend and me wanted to watch some Netflix in our apartment and found our phones too small while we didn't wanna bring a (huge) laptop.

    You could get a projector on EBay if that's cheaper.

    Usually requires a white wall to be effective + a tablet is very convenient for casual games :)

  • xaocxaoc Member
    edited September 11

    @that_guy said:
    The Mi pad 4 look's awesome for the price! I'd get it.
    Just for fun, also have a look at the Samsung galaxy tab s2 before you buy.
    It's old'ish, but: 3:2 OLED (8 & 10"), superthin, superlight! Very tempting to me, but starts at 230€.

    If movies are a must, the mi pad will be a better choice. I've yet to find a use'case for the 9.7" s2 (SD variant) and i've had it since release -_-. Plus the s2's speakers are trash.

    The mi pad 4 has better specs like more ram, newer CPU, and a larger battery.

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  • @Ympker said:

    @ManofServer said:
    The reason against would be that casual gaming and netflix/prime are not worthwhile activities that require an investment of capital in order to sustain them.

    And that's for you to decide? My girlfriend and me wanted to watch some Netflix in our apartment and found our phones too small while we didn't wanna bring a (huge) laptop.

    I'm just making small talk :D I also have netflix but would like to quit it one day.

  • @ManofServer said:

    @Ympker said:

    @ManofServer said:
    The reason against would be that casual gaming and netflix/prime are not worthwhile activities that require an investment of capital in order to sustain them.

    And that's for you to decide? My girlfriend and me wanted to watch some Netflix in our apartment and found our phones too small while we didn't wanna bring a (huge) laptop.

    I'm just making small talk :D I also have netflix but would like to quit it one day.

    Hehe :D That'd be nice indeed^^

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  • @ehhthing said:
    One of the problems with Xiaomi android devices (coming from a Mi 5 user) is the software: it is trash.

    The software is absolutely terrible for any western user, especially since push notifications don't get delivered properly.

    I ended up rooting and installing Lineage OS which ruins the battery life.

    I agree

    I got a Xiaomi Redmi 5A which I really like, but hated MIUI.

    Luckily someone made a stock Android ROM with all of the Pixel stuff, so now it's great.

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  • classyclassy Member
    edited September 12

    Our experience with Xiaomi is that the hardware starts to fall apart in less than a year.

    This was the problem with my girlfriend’s Xiaomi Note 4, in the end I bought the iPhone 8+ with the dbrand grip and a glass screenprotector, to recover as much resale value as possible.

    Lack of quality control and cheap materials is partly why China is so dirt cheap, folks. And of course the ‘borrowing’ of others’ intellectual property (because it isn’t “really” illegal in China).

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  • @classy said:
    Lack of quality control and cheap materials is partly why China is so dirt cheap, folks. And of course the ‘borrowing’ of others’ intellectual property (because it isn’t “really” illegal in China).

    That is same whining as of Trump.

    All of your devices are coming from China, including iPhone. You are comparing a $200 phone with $700+. You get what you pay for.

    I have had a very good experience with Xiaomi phones, running strong even after a year.

  • @classy said:
    Our experience with Xiaomi is that the hardware starts to fall apart in less than a year.

    This was the problem with my girlfriend’s Xiaomi Note 4, in the end I bought the iPhone 8+ with the dbrand grip and a glass screenprotector, to recover as much resale value as possible.

    Lack of quality control and cheap materials is partly why China is so dirt cheap, folks. And of course the ‘borrowing’ of others’ intellectual property (because it isn’t “really” illegal in China).

    It sounds to me you are comparing a 5 USD/yr NAT VPS with AWS.

  • Ordered a Mi Pad 4 64GB, 4GB RAM for 198€ at Gearbest. Let's see :- )

  • I've been wanting to get one as well. Let us know what you think!

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  • @michaels said:
    I'm about to replace my Sony Xperia z3 compact tablet this thread has come up at a good time. Is there a good community around custom ROMs for Mi Pads in general?

    xiaomi.eu is my fav

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  • @kendid said:
    I've been wanting to get one as well. Let us know what you think!

    I will ;)

  • Redmi note 3 still going strong since April 2016. (though I managed to break the headphone connector by abusing it in my bag's phone holder. mea culpa)

    Heck, it pulled me through a freaking natural disaster (floods). I'm now mostly worried about the weakening Indian rupee and just-around-the-corner price increases for any replacement device.

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  • JunJun Member

    If I have to find a reason not to use Xiaomi products, there were at least two confirmed serious privacy issues(or some believe that this is a backdoor) with Xiaomi. One which Xiaomi keeps sending your personal information to Xiaomi server without user consent, another which lets Xiaomi install any application silently without source verification. Both issues had been fixed.

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  • @vimalware said:
    Redmi note 3 still going strong since April 2016. (though I managed to break the headphone connector by abusing it in my bag's phone holder. mea culpa)

    Heck, it pulled me through a freaking natural disaster (floods). I'm now mostly worried about the weakening Indian rupee and just-around-the-corner price increases for any replacement device.

    Oddly enough the broken headphone jack was the reason for me to get a Mi A1 back then, which was my first Xiaomi device. I had a One Plus 3 (for like 450€) and after a bit longer than a year the headphone jack stopped working or rather made a shitty noise during listening. I contacted OP and they said they wouldn't even consider replacing it or repairing as long as I wouldn't try their original OP headphones. I was like "well ANY headphone 3,5mm should work, correct?!" and basically that was it. They wanted me to buy&try their original OP headphones otherwhise wouldn't even consider headphone jack not working and I sure as hell didn't wanna buy their stupid original headphones. Thus I decided to buy a new phone but this time cheaper around 200€. I keep telling myself if this time something goes wrong it doesn't hurt too much unlike at OP3 price poinnt and I can simply swap for a new phone. You gussed right! Thus the new budget phone I bought was the Mi A1. Not gonna buy an expensive OP anymore if after 1 year that's the shit I get when a problem occur.s

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  • I'm searching for a good 7/8" Tablet too for my son's iPAd mini upgrade. Main feature I need is flawless "cast" to LG SmartTVs so that we can watch TV channels and online videos on the big screen.

    Also a plus would be to have Phone (phablet) feature so I can chuk in a SIM, that will enable my son to call incase he needs, so I'll save on an extra phone to be bought for him as he is only 10 and doesn't really need a cellphone right now.

    Mostly the phablet/tablet will be used for his games and online study/worksheet material only. Any good links from gearbest or other deal sites? I can wait for the festive discount season that is nearer now.

    Thanks

  • hostdarehostdare Member, Provider

    @classy I have a xiomi note 3 running for more than two years and guess what I bought for like 150 back then ? do not compare a 150 with 1000 usd iphone ? You can buy one xioami phone every year without breaking the bank

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  • @hostdare said:
    You can buy one xioami phone every year without breaking the bank

    This has been my philosophy towards smartphones and laptops since 2014.

    3.5yo Thinkpad x201 due for replacement any week now.

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  • netomxnetomx Member, Moderator

    I bought recently a chuwi hi9pro. It is good enough, and has lte. Mexico has a $0.50 usd/day unlimited data, so...

  • @classy said:
    Our experience with Xiaomi is that the hardware starts to fall apart in less than a year.

    This was the problem with my girlfriend’s Xiaomi Note 4, in the end I bought the iPhone 8+ with the dbrand grip and a glass screenprotector, to recover as much resale value as possible.

    Lack of quality control and cheap materials is partly why China is so dirt cheap, folks. And of course the ‘borrowing’ of others’ intellectual property (because it isn’t “really” illegal in China).

    How can you know for sure she didn't break it on purpose to get the 8+ instead? The phone was cheap so the attitude towards it must have been cheap.

    /s

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  • YmpkerYmpker Member
    edited September 14

    @mehargags said:
    I'm searching for a good 7/8" Tablet too for my son's iPAd mini upgrade. Main feature I need is flawless "cast" to LG SmartTVs so that we can watch TV channels and online videos on the big screen.

    Also a plus would be to have Phone (phablet) feature so I can chuk in a SIM, that will enable my son to call incase he needs, so I'll save on an extra phone to be bought for him as he is only 10 and doesn't really need a cellphone right now.

    Mostly the phablet/tablet will be used for his games and online study/worksheet material only. Any good links from gearbest or other deal sites? I can wait for the festive discount season that is nearer now.

    Thanks

    I'm not sure what is required for LG cast but usually most android phones would support DLNA/Upnp to cast or maybe there is a cast app for LG. Worst case just get yourself a chromecast. It's awesome and offers so much more^^ Anyway Mi Pad4 might be something for your son also? Other than that amazon also launched a fire hd kids edition which gets free repair up to 2 years?! if broken accidentally by the kid.

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  • @netomx said:
    I bought recently a chuwi hi9pro. It is good enough, and has lte. Mexico has a $0.50 usd/day unlimited data, so...

    Looks like a Tablet SPOT-ON with my needs, can you confirm if cast to Smart TV works good on it ?

    Also help me with a good deal link.
    Thanks

  • YmpkerYmpker Member
    edited September 14

    @mehargags said:

    @netomx said:
    I bought recently a chuwi hi9pro. It is good enough, and has lte. Mexico has a $0.50 usd/day unlimited data, so...

    Looks like a Tablet SPOT-ON with my needs, can you confirm if cast to Smart TV works good on it ?

    Also help me with a good deal link.
    Thanks

    115€ on AliExpress for:
    CHUWI Hi9 Pro MTK679 X20 Deca Core 8.4 Inch GPS 3GB RAM 32GB Android 8.0 4G LTE Metal Body Phablet Tablet PC Phone Call WIFI

    http://s.aliexpress.com/yQbaqUbY?fromSns=

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