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New Hetzner SX storage servers €169/100TB and €269/150TB
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New Hetzner SX storage servers €169/100TB and €269/150TB

sithrebel15sithrebel15 Member
edited August 2018 in General

Can't get normal markdown tables to work so...

Server Processor Ram Drives Bandwidth Price
SX291 E5-1650 v2 128GB 15 x 6TB 100TB/out €249
SX292 E5-1650 v3 256GB 15 x 10TB 100TB/out €269
Server Processor Ram Drives Bandwidth Price
SX131 E5-1650 v2 64GB 15 x 6TB 50TB/out €169
SX132 E5-1650 v3 128GB 10 x 10TB 50TB/out €169
Thanked by 1Hetzner_OL

Comments

  • MasonRMasonR Community Contributor

    Let's play 'Who wants to be the next ZXHost'!!

    Thanked by 3Harambe willie beagle
  • chxchx Member
    edited August 2018

    Well they raised the disk to almost twice -- nice! They didn't raise the bandwidth allocation, well, this will make people think twice who want to resell that storage. ( I still love Hetzner, just today I bagged a Xeon with 2x3TB and 2x240 DC SSD for just a hair above 46EUR. The SSDs are in good health with just 6.3TB written per smartctl.)

    Thanked by 1willie
  • Nice! I wondered when they would do this, given the recent price drop of 10TB add-on drives. Too bad about no SX62 yet. Typo in above table: SX131 has 10 drives, not 15. 15 drives is the SX291/292.

    Calculated storage costs for SX61,132,292, and hypothetical SX62 with 4x10TB drives, in US$/TiB/month (1 EUR=1.15572 USD per xe.com just now). "parity" is number of RAID parity drives, so 0=no raid, 1=raid5, 2 or 3 = raid6/ZFS.

    parity    SX61         SX132       SX292         "SX62"
    | 0       |     3.65 |      2.15 |      2.11 |     2.19 |
    | 1       |     4.87 |      2.38 |      2.26 |     2.92 |
    | 2       |     7.30 |      2.68 |      2.43 |     4.38 |
    | 3       |    14.61 |      3.07 |      2.64 |     8.76 |
    
    Thanked by 2Aidan theloafingone
  • HBAndreiHBAndrei Member, Top Host, Host Rep

    If only they'd get rid of that setup fee, like they did with some of their other servers.

  • chx said: They didn't raise the bandwidth allocation, well, this will make people think twice who want to resell that storage.

    One workaround is just don't include any internet connectivity, and only allow connections from inside Hetzner's network, which has free traffic. If people want to get data outside, they can proxy across a cloud VPS.

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @HBAndrei said:
    If only they'd get rid of that setup fee, like they did with some of their other servers.

    That filters away majority of Customers who cancel after a month, who are clearly not a Hetzner’s target.

    Thanked by 3Zerpy Aidan Hetzner_OL
  • Vova1234Vova1234 Member, Patron Provider
    edited August 2018

    https://hostsuki.pro/all/pochemu-tolko-1-shtuka-.html

    15 hours after publication they changed the storage rate. All the same, Hetzner reads blogs of customers.

    Recently, I bought a 10TB server for a file server. Minus in Hetzner that you can not do markup when installing the OS. Since I've killed a lot of time to install ISP Manager 5 Lite as a panel.

  • sithrebel15sithrebel15 Member
    edited August 2018

    @HBAndrei said:
    If only they'd get rid of that setup fee, like they did with some of their other servers.

    No setup fee right now. Just ordered two.

    can't reproduce. maybe a error or upcoming promo?

  • The setup fee gets them forward a few months in paying off the hardware, and keeping a large storage server for just 1 mo. is kind of silly. If you keep it 1 year, setup fee basically adds 8.33% to the monthly cost. This is very aggressive pricing, not just disk but ram too (256gb in the sx292!). They have to operate like a finance company to do this at scale.

    I wonder if the 6TB drives coming out of service as people upgrade will make it into the server auction.

  • What raid level would people recommend for the 10x10tb favouring resilience.

  • I'd consider the 15x10tb machine over the 10x since it has hardware raid. Then use at least 2, preferably 3 raid drives.

  • @lurch said:
    What raid level would people recommend for the 10x10tb favouring resilience.

    Depends on how much storage you need. you technically could put them all in a raid 1 array with every drive being a mirror for a total of 10TB of storage and 9 drive failures.

  • @sithrebel15 said:

    @lurch said:
    What raid level would people recommend for the 10x10tb favouring resilience.

    Depends on how much storage you need. you technically could put them all in a raid 1 array with every drive being a mirror for a total of 10TB of storage and 9 drive failures.

    Ah yes very true probably don't need that much say to allow for at least 2 failures. 5 or 6?

  • @willie said:
    I'd consider the 15x10tb machine over the 10x since it has hardware raid. Then use at least 2, preferably 3 raid drives.

    Unfortunately with setup it completely blows my budget

  • williewillie Member
    edited August 2018

    Don't do raid 5, that was a 1990s thing. Recovery takes way too long for it now, so multiple drive failures is a real danger.

    @Hetzner_OL I hope we see an SX62 and StorageBox price decrease soon!

  • Mr_TomMr_Tom Member, Host Rep

    willie said: Don't do raid 5

    What about 6?

  • Yes, use 6, or possibly 10 depending. 10 will burn more storage and possibly lose data if the wrong 2 drives fail, but will perform better than 6 on a sw raid setup. I think the cool kidz use ZFS these days, as a form of raid 6.

    Thanked by 1Mr_Tom
  • @lurch said:

    @sithrebel15 said:

    @lurch said:
    What raid level would people recommend for the 10x10tb favouring resilience.

    Depends on how much storage you need. you technically could put them all in a raid 1 array with every drive being a mirror for a total of 10TB of storage and 9 drive failures.

    Ah yes very true probably don't need that much say to allow for at least 2 failures. 5 or 6?

    I typically use raid z2 if im looking for a raid 5 equivalent.

    Thanked by 1Mr_Tom
  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL Member, Top Host

    @willie said:
    @Hetzner_OL I hope we see an SX62 and StorageBox price decrease soon!

    I can't promise anything, as you all know, but I'll pass that sentiment on to my colleagues. --Katie, Marketing

    Thanked by 2Foul lurch
  • 150T of porn. Oh my god!

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