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Good payment processors for file hosting business?

Looking for suggestions on best payment processors for file hosting sites, anyone have experiences?

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll
    edited July 2018

    So, another one, eh. US based payment processors won't work. Choose a Russia/China based ones.

  • @deank said:
    So, another one, eh. US based payment processors won't work. Choose a Russia/China based ones.

    yes but russia and china are only focusing on their local credit cards not internationally.

    we need international cc processors.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Take a look at what the popular ones are using now. They do take international cards.

  • @deank said:
    Take a look at what the popular ones are using now. They do take international cards.

    The payment gateways are obfuscated on them. They directly process not an indirectly.
    maybe they purchase additional merchant account for their offshore bank?

  • mkshmksh Member

    Use money.

  • vmp32kvmp32k Member

    Bitcoin? Ponzi-currency for a shady business, seems like a good fit.

  • ympkeritympkerit Member
    edited July 2018

    @vmp32k said:
    Bitcoin? Ponzi-currency for a shady business, seems like a good fit.

    BUT! The target audience isn't bitcoin friendly they are CC friendly.

  • mkshmksh Member

    @ympkerit said:

    @vmp32k said:
    Bitcoin? Ponzi-currency for a shady business, seems like a good fit.

    BUT! The target audience isn't bitcoin friendly they are CC friendly.

    You must use money.

  • @mksh said:

    @ympkerit said:

    @vmp32k said:
    Bitcoin? Ponzi-currency for a shady business, seems like a good fit.

    BUT! The target audience isn't bitcoin friendly they are CC friendly.

    You must use money.

    How? dont understand.

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited July 2018

    You can't go wrong with G2A Pay

    https://pay.g2a.com/online-payment-methods

  • @stefeman said:
    You can't go wrong with G2A Pay

    https://pay.g2a.com/online-payment-methods

    Nah! They don't accept file storage bizness.

  • mkshmksh Member

    @ympkerit said:

    @stefeman said:
    You can't go wrong with G2A Pay

    https://pay.g2a.com/online-payment-methods

    Nah! They don't accept file storage bizness.

    Use money then...

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    I think he needs his shareholders first for dat.

    Thanked by 2mksh ympkerit
  • mkshmksh Member

    @deank said:
    I think he needs his shareholders first for dat.

    Good point. Didn't think of that.

  • @ympkerit said:

    @stefeman said:
    You can't go wrong with G2A Pay

    https://pay.g2a.com/online-payment-methods

    Nah! They don't accept file storage bizness.

    You're gonna be a cyberlocker with 4TB yearly server? They do accept hosting providers.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    To be utterly honest, 4TB is gonna run out in few hours. There are crap ton of file hosting abusers out there who dump TBs of porn in a matter of hours.

  • mkshmksh Member

    @deank said:
    To be utterly honest, 4TB is gonna run out in few hours. There are crap ton of file hosting abusers out there who dump TBs of porn in a matter of hours.

    Doubt it's going to matter much since when people start trying to upload his blazing fast 250mbit SYS pipe is going to take a dump.

  • ympkeritympkerit Member
    edited July 2018

    @deank said:
    To be utterly honest, 4TB is gonna run out in few hours. There are crap ton of file hosting abusers out there who dump TBs of porn in a matter of hours.

    Eh, sounds like so unprofitable business. tons of gigabytes and you get nothing and crap..

    So something like 400TB is gonna run out in 400 hours?

  • deankdeank Member, Troll
    edited July 2018

    For a startup file hosting to take off successfully, you need to have very generous payout program for uploads.

    This attracts notorious uploaders.

    The pattern is almost exactly the same for any file hosts.

    1. Offer more than generous payout scheme for uploads to attract uploaders.
    2. Get more storage servers since you are guaranteed to run out of storage.

    3. When the guy (in charge of file hosting) realizes he can't sustain it, reduce the payout.
      (or) The guy gets hit with cease and desist order(s). Shuts down in debt.

    4. Starts progressive death.

    Now, there are ways to get around this progressive death but I ain't sharing dat.

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited July 2018

    @ympkerit said:

    @deank said:
    To be utterly honest, 4TB is gonna run out in few hours. There are crap ton of file hosting abusers out there who dump TBs of porn in a matter of hours.

    Eh, sounds like so unprofitable business. tons of gigabytes and you get nothing and crap..

    So something like 400TB is gonna run out in 400 hours?

    Its profitable if you own the storage server and colocate somewhere where it's relatively cheap and secure. nForce in netherlands for example. It's a huge investment. and having multiple servers is a must so you can share load between the servers.

    Rather than stick 400 TB to into a single 4U, put it into 2-3x 2U servers.

    You also need to hire someone to handle abuse/DMCA 365 days a year.

  • mkshmksh Member

    @stefeman said:

    @ympkerit said:

    @deank said:
    To be utterly honest, 4TB is gonna run out in few hours. There are crap ton of file hosting abusers out there who dump TBs of porn in a matter of hours.

    Eh, sounds like so unprofitable business. tons of gigabytes and you get nothing and crap..

    So something like 400TB is gonna run out in 400 hours?

    Its profitable if you own the storage server and colocate somewhere where it's relatively cheap and secure. nForce in netherlands for example. It's a huge investment. and having multiple servers is a must so you can share load between the servers.

    Rather than stick 400 TB to into a single 4U, put it into 2-3x 2U servers.

    That's a lot of shareholders.

  • @stefeman said:

    @ympkerit said:

    @deank said:
    To be utterly honest, 4TB is gonna run out in few hours. There are crap ton of file hosting abusers out there who dump TBs of porn in a matter of hours.

    Eh, sounds like so unprofitable business. tons of gigabytes and you get nothing and crap..

    So something like 400TB is gonna run out in 400 hours?

    Its profitable if you own the storage server and colocate somewhere where it's relatively cheap and secure. nForce in netherlands for example. It's a huge investment. and having multiple servers is a must so you can share load between the servers.

    Rather than stick 400 TB to into a single 4U, put it into 2-3x 2U servers.

    You also need to hire someone to handle abuse/DMCA 365 days a year.

    Well, for a start-up i guess thats huge investment.
    What about going server by server based on revenue? I mean when sales gets profit and server needed putting new one then putting new one ... ?

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited July 2018

    @ympkerit said:

    @stefeman said:

    @ympkerit said:

    @deank said:
    To be utterly honest, 4TB is gonna run out in few hours. There are crap ton of file hosting abusers out there who dump TBs of porn in a matter of hours.

    Eh, sounds like so unprofitable business. tons of gigabytes and you get nothing and crap..

    So something like 400TB is gonna run out in 400 hours?

    Its profitable if you own the storage server and colocate somewhere where it's relatively cheap and secure. nForce in netherlands for example. It's a huge investment. and having multiple servers is a must so you can share load between the servers.

    Rather than stick 400 TB to into a single 4U, put it into 2-3x 2U servers.

    You also need to hire someone to handle abuse/DMCA 365 days a year.

    Well, for a start-up i guess thats huge investment.
    What about going server by server based on revenue? I mean when sales gets profit and server needed putting new one then putting new one ... ?

    You mean renting with zero profit and building up your fleet slowly starting from one server? It works if you get bulk deal from the provider, otherwise its unsustainable as the provider takes fair amount of your share. Colocation is always cheaper in the long run.

    You can also build your colocated server slowly. Just send over extra HDDs when you can afford them and add them to your system.

  • @stefeman said:

    @ympkerit said:

    @stefeman said:

    @ympkerit said:

    @deank said:
    To be utterly honest, 4TB is gonna run out in few hours. There are crap ton of file hosting abusers out there who dump TBs of porn in a matter of hours.

    Eh, sounds like so unprofitable business. tons of gigabytes and you get nothing and crap..

    So something like 400TB is gonna run out in 400 hours?

    Its profitable if you own the storage server and colocate somewhere where it's relatively cheap and secure. nForce in netherlands for example. It's a huge investment. and having multiple servers is a must so you can share load between the servers.

    Rather than stick 400 TB to into a single 4U, put it into 2-3x 2U servers.

    You also need to hire someone to handle abuse/DMCA 365 days a year.

    Well, for a start-up i guess thats huge investment.
    What about going server by server based on revenue? I mean when sales gets profit and server needed putting new one then putting new one ... ?

    You mean renting with zero profit and building up your fleet slowly starting from one server? It works if you get bulk deal from the provider, otherwise its unsustainable as the provider takes fair amount of your share. Colocation is always cheaper in the long run.

    You can also build your colocated server slowly. Just send over extra HDDs when you can afford them and add them to your system.

    Colocation is an overkill for now. Maybe a good storage dedicated at first then grow slowly by new sales.
    And let's turn back to main question: a good payment processor?

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited July 2018

    For cyberlockers, there are none. If you think G2A is shady, youre in for a treat: Maybe Interkassa for VISA/MasterCard Support. But that's about as shady as it gets when it comes to weird payment processors.

    There's also ppro financial ltd, but that's even worse due "certain stuff" and you need manual approval. Their "Alternative payment methods" is perfect if you wish to tax evade.

  • @stefeman said:
    For cyberlockers, there are none. Maybe Interkassa for VISA/MasterCard Support.

    interkassa uhmm such a bad and shady gateway.

    There are none? Then how can rapidgator, mega, katfile, k2s, filefactory, depositfiles billing their customers?
    If they can't get processing they can't pay and rent the servers.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    You need to figure this out on your own. If you can't, you probably shouldn't dip into the dark web.

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited July 2018

    @ympkerit said:

    @stefeman said:
    For cyberlockers, there are none. Maybe Interkassa for VISA/MasterCard Support.

    interkassa uhmm such a bad and shady gateway.

    There are none? Then how can rapidgator, mega, katfile, k2s, filefactory, depositfiles billing their customers?
    If they can't get processing they can't pay and rent the servers.

    What youre doing isin't very legal either.. or don't tell me 100% of the files you are hosting is checked against copyright claims and is designated as free work. More like 100% of them will be porn, tv shows or movies or music.

    What they are doing is not giving a shit about terms of services of their payment processors, but being large enough so they are "ignored".

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited July 2018

    Oh right, there are still https://slotegrator.com/moneygrator.html and they (used to) accept VISA/MasterCard. Its used mainly by online casinos, so that tells you everything you need to know how "legit" it is among the payment processors. In fact I would never insert my card details in one of their windows.

    Right now they do their VISA/MasterCard through Skrill.

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited July 2018

    Or https://www.liqpay.ua/ which supports VISA/MasterCard

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