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Nocix Review (Look At This Before You Look At Other Nocix Reviews)

Nocix Review (Look At This Before You Look At Other Nocix Reviews)

CrandolphCrandolph Member
edited February 27 in Providers

Honestly, this will sound like a shill but...

They're very good.

I've been with them 2 months and had one power outage, which lasted minimal time for my server.

Other than that, great prices, pretty solid network.

Oh, and great support.

I'm talking literal 3 minute responses for a super low end budget provider 24/7.

I've had drives put in within 5 minutes of opening a ticket about it, then paying the invoice.

Over all I highly recommend.

The guys there are great and even held my hand through a ZFS installation (in fact, could have been arguable a managed service for about an hour).

Plus they'll issue you a free KVM IP in a snap or reinstall / reboot your server if you have any trouble. Additionally, on preconfig servers, they do already have a reinstall / reboot feature and for custom servers (like mine, unfortunately) -- it's coming soon.

Over all, highly recommended. From me, anyways.

P.S. This review is totally on my behalf, I see a lot of bad Nocix / Datashack / Wholesale reviews, but not a lot of good ones. I wanted to do my role in helping balance that with an actual positive experience from me.

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  • CrandolphCrandolph Member
    edited February 27

    Oh and by the way, it's not advertised because it's not much, but all servers come with 2Gbps free DDoS mitigation, and they seem to be able to mitigate more than that.

    (From experience.)

    Also, they're working on getting upwards of 20Gbps protection.

    (According to what I've heard from the grape vine.)

  • We look forward to the 6, 9 and 12 month reviews if you actually stay.

    Why are we still allowing bypassing AUP/TOS (Netflix) requests? We're one thread pull away from being HF.

  • I wouldn't trust his reviews too much, given the past history.

    A proud member of LET apocalypse cult.

    The customer is usually wrong.

  • @Crandolph what about bandwidth? It's 1Gbit @ 100TB dedicated?

  • lionlion Member

    I wonder if Nocix has NVMe like write speeds at 3$

  • @lion said: I wonder if Nocix has NVMe like write speeds at 3$

    My $5 120gb nocix regular SSD is faster than my hetzner nvme.

    That's sad. Hetzner is still trash.

  • @deank said: I wouldn't trust his reviews too much, given the past history.

    You can fuck off now.

  • @mtsbatalha said: @Crandolph what about bandwidth? It's 1Gbit @ 100TB dedicated

    I do believe the port is dedicated yes. No issues with speed thus far to lead me to believe it isnt.

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  • @doughmanes said: We look forward to the 6, 9 and 12 month reviews if you actually stay.

    I've had experience with them when they were Datashack. I came back when they improved.

    I like the team.

  • nocix price point is good, comparable like dacentec, quickpacket etc. but the network is not good as the other especially when accessed from asian countries. just my own opinion, i rent dedi at nocix and almost 2 years on august.

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  • also, look like too many shoeminer at nocix recently.

  • @warrior said: nocix price point is good, comparable like dacentec, quickpacket etc. but the network is not good as the other especially when accessed from asian countries. just my own opinion, i rent dedi at nocix and almost 2 years on august.

    Quickpacket is probably going to get you the best Asian connection. Dacentec will probably get you the best European connection. Nocix is good for America.

    Although dacentec is way less tolerant about things such as DDoS. Not sure about quickpacket.

  • Good hosting for the price.

    Longggg time customer.

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  • CrandolphCrandolph Member
    edited February 27

    @AlyssaD said: Good hosting for the price.

    Longggg time customer.

    Nice to see another server neighbor around here :-)

  • Going through their server pricing and I saw "AMD Sexcore Custom".

  • msg7086 said: Going through their server pricing and I saw "AMD Sexcore Custom".

    And?

  • @msg7086 said: Going through their server pricing and I saw "AMD Sexcore Custom".

    Yes so for example I got a quad core custom and it came with an amd 3.5ghz phenom.

    If it's not a preconfig they don't always list exact processor.

  • HannanHannan Member, Provider

    Wondering who is their datacenter?

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  • @Hannan said: Wondering who is their datacenter?

    Themselves I'm pretty sure.

  • CrandolphCrandolph Member
    edited February 27

    @mtsbatalha said: @Crandolph what about bandwidth? It's 1Gbit @ 100TB dedicated?

    I sent @mtsbatalha a quick benchmark, if anyone on the thread is interested here you go:

    [email protected]:~# wget -qO- bench.sh | bash

    CPU model : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 970 Processor Number of cores : 4 CPU frequency : 3515.805 MHz Total size of Disk : 1304.9 GB (17.4 GB Used) Total amount of Mem : 7944 MB (3999 MB Used) Total amount of Swap : 7167 MB (63 MB Used) System uptime : 1 days, 3 hour 45 min Load average : 0.13, 0.14, 0.10 OS : Debian GNU/Linux 9 Arch : x86_64 (64 Bit)

    Kernel : 4.13.13-6-pve

    I/O speed(1st run) : 545 MB/s I/O speed(2nd run) : 569 MB/s I/O speed(3rd run) : 536 MB/s

    Average I/O speed : 550.0 MB/s

    Node Name IPv4 address Download Speed CacheFly 205.234.175.175 75.9MB/s Linode, Tokyo, JP 106.187.96.148 15.0MB/s Linode, Singapore, SG 139.162.23.4 3.90MB/s Linode, London, UK 176.58.107.39 5.68MB/s Linode, Frankfurt, DE 139.162.130.8 3.78MB/s Linode, Fremont, CA 50.116.14.9 7.24MB/s Softlayer, Dallas, TX 173.192.68.18 88.5MB/s Softlayer, Seattle, WA 67.228.112.250 40.2MB/s Softlayer, Frankfurt, DE 159.122.69.4 8.13MB/s Softlayer, Singapore, SG 119.81.28.170 9.15MB/s

    Softlayer, HongKong, CN 119.81.130.170 10.7MB/s

    [email protected]:~#

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  • They are good for their price, but not as miracle as you described. Their port is not dedicated, it's shared port. No DDoS protection at all. They will null route your IP whenever you get DDoSed. Their disks are also not good. It's end customer SSD disk with merely get 1k IOPs. Their billing system even had a bug that help you order any servers for free.

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  • BunnySpeedBunnySpeed Member, Provider
    edited February 28

    Your benchmark does inbound tests though. Obviously they have plenty of free inbound capacity, but even that turns rather horrible when you reach Europe. Also keep in mind that these are business networks and make sure to test during peak hours. Now imagine what a consumer ISP in EU would get. This is definitely not what one should consider good network. Well, for the price it is I guess, but definitely not otherwise.

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  • @levnode said: They are good for their price, but not as miracle as you described. Their port is not dedicated, it's shared port. No DDoS protection at all. They will null route your IP whenever you get DDoSed. Their disks are also not good. It's end customer SSD disk with merely get 1k IOPs. Their billing system even had a bug that help you order any servers for free.

    Most of this is incorrect.

    Null route is common knowledge.

    Not positive if your correct on the port, but nonetheless it works great for me, so it must not be oversold.

    DDoS Protection is as stated, 2Gbps.

    SSD part is blatantly wrong and makes no sense maybe your single experience was with a bad drive that can happen at any DC. Mine isn't similar.

    Can't be hassled to argue, you can have your own opinion or experience.

    Keep in mind I'm a very objective based person, for example I called Hetzner shit because I had a piss poor experience, I gave Nocix an honest review based on my experience. If I think your shit, I'll call your service shit. Nocix however, has plesantly surprised me.

  • @BunnySpeed said: Your benchmark does inbound tests though. Obviously they have plenty of free inbound capacity, but even that turns rather horrible when you reach Europe. Also keep in mind that these are business networks and make sure to test during peak hours. Now imagine what a consumer ISP in EU would get. This is definitely not what one should consider good network. Well, for the price it is I guess, but definitely not otherwise.

    That benchmark was at 3 or 4 I think. Relatively peak.

    I agree it's not the best ever, but for my $22.50 I'll take it :-)

  • @levnode said: They are good for their price, but not as miracle as you described. Their port is not dedicated, it's shared port. No DDoS protection at all. They will null route your IP whenever you get DDoSed. Their disks are also not good. It's end customer SSD disk with merely get 1k IOPs. Their billing system even had a bug that help you order any servers for free.

    like i said network is not good as the other, maybe cause its shared port. for ddos no experience so far. rotation hours disk is really-really old, for billing system one of LET user talk about it and sent bug via tickets and nocix never response the ticket last i hear.

  • @Crandolph said:

    @levnode said: They are good for their price, but not as miracle as you described. Their port is not dedicated, it's shared port. No DDoS protection at all. They will null route your IP whenever you get DDoSed. Their disks are also not good. It's end customer SSD disk with merely get 1k IOPs. Their billing system even had a bug that help you order any servers for free.

    Most of this is incorrect.

    Null route is common knowledge.

    Not positive if your correct on the port, but nonetheless it works great for me, so it must not be oversold.

    DDoS Protection is as stated, 2Gbps.

    SSD part is blatantly wrong and makes no sense maybe your single experience was with a bad drive that can happen at any DC. Mine isn't similar.

    Can't be hassled to argue, you can have your own opinion or experience.

    Keep in mind I'm a very objective based person, for example I called Hetzner shit because I had a piss poor experience, I gave Nocix an honest review based on my experience. If I think your shit, I'll call your service shit. Nocix however, has plesantly surprised me.

    Show me your invoices with them. I want to know how much you have spent with them comparing to me. Yes, you can keep your opinion but telling my review is incorrect based on your experience is incorrect.

    Moreover, you are writing a review and you are arguing with others to prove that your review is correct for everyone. What the hell of this review? If it’s not nocix, I will doubt that you’re faking promotion for your own service.

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  • jarlandjarland Provider
    edited February 28

    Post removed. I seriously had volumedrive in my head, got mixed up with quadix. My reply was totally unfair to datashack. Too many name changes ;)

  • jarland said: Post removed. I seriously had volumedrive in my head, got mixed up with quadix. My reply was totally unfair to datashack. Too many name changes ;)

    Me too, sometime I confused with nocix and quadix. LOL.

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  • mikhomikho Member, Provider

    I've been with Nocix since late June 2017. Been a customer with them before but had a little break.

    My uptime since I started monitoring that server, let's say from August 1st is 99.8976% That includes scheduled maintenance on my part and unscheduled things from their part.

    3 times it's been completely down, mid-October, early December, and mid-January. those 3 times account for most of the downtime, I should mention that I don't pause monitoring when I have scheduled maintenance either ... so if you remove maintenance, uptime would be even better For me, 99.9% is "good enough"

    Worst was on Oct 15. Power loss in the DC where everything got shut down. ~3hours in total that day ... not consecutive but on and off during a 4-hour window 36 minutes on Dec 5th Jan 18th: downtime registered 7 times. ranging from 60 sec to 30 minutes .. all during a 3-hour window. Total downtime 97 minutes...

    I'm more than happy with this. The performance of the server? As expected.

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  • CrandolphCrandolph Member
    edited February 28

    @levnode said:

    @Crandolph said:

    @levnode said: They are good for their price, but not as miracle as you described. Their port is not dedicated, it's shared port. No DDoS protection at all. They will null route your IP whenever you get DDoSed. Their disks are also not good. It's end customer SSD disk with merely get 1k IOPs. Their billing system even had a bug that help you order any servers for free.

    Most of this is incorrect.

    Null route is common knowledge.

    Not positive if your correct on the port, but nonetheless it works great for me, so it must not be oversold.

    DDoS Protection is as stated, 2Gbps.

    SSD part is blatantly wrong and makes no sense maybe your single experience was with a bad drive that can happen at any DC. Mine isn't similar.

    Can't be hassled to argue, you can have your own opinion or experience.

    Keep in mind I'm a very objective based person, for example I called Hetzner shit because I had a piss poor experience, I gave Nocix an honest review based on my experience. If I think your shit, I'll call your service shit. Nocix however, has plesantly surprised me.

    Show me your invoices with them. I want to know how much you have spent with them comparing to me. Yes, you can keep your opinion but telling my review is incorrect based on your experience is incorrect.

    Moreover, you are writing a review and you are arguing with others to prove that your review is correct for everyone. What the hell of this review? If it’s not nocix, I will doubt that you’re faking promotion for your own service.

    Dude, literally fuck off.

    Don't use them.

    I did this because I had a good experience.

    Nocix is too big to make fake reviews on let.

    They've been around years and probably do 6 figures a month in revenue.

    Stop reaching for a conflict. Use common sense.

  • levnodelevnode Member
    edited March 1

    Crandolph said: Dude, literally fuck off.

    Don't use them.

    I did this because I had a good experience.

    Nocix is too big to make fake reviews on let.

    They've been around years and probably do 6 figures a month in revenue.

    Stop reaching for a conflict. Use common sense.

    Talk is cheap, show me your invoice. Show me that you got dedicated 1Gbps and 2Gbps DDoS also.

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  • hacktekhacktek Member

    I just got a dedi there. I think this price is unbeatable for a 4000 passmark CPU under $20. I get 500-600 Mbps which is enough for my needs, it was a custom server and they provisioned it within hours. I messed up the OS install and they reinstalled it in like an hour. Tickets were answered within minutes. Disk performance is what you'd expect from a dedicated server. I'll need to give this more time but first impressions are excellent.

  • EHRAEHRA Member

    @levnode said: Keep in mind I'm a very objective based person, for example I called Hetzner shit because I had a piss poor experience, I gave Nocix an honest review based on my experience. If I think your shit, I'll call your service shit. Nocix however, has plesantly surprised me.

    I've been lucky with Hetzner. Uptime of 100% since the Cloud launch, I believe I met them with a stable and good server for my goals. The ping for my area is even acceptable (~ 255ms) as I am located in South America. I did a recent test in a Datacenter in Dallas (USA) and the ping is 163ms, I believe that difference of 92ms does not make much difference in navigation, so I continue with Hetzner.

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  • hacktekhacktek Member

    @hacktek said: I just got a dedi there. I think this price is unbeatable for a 4000 passmark CPU under $20. I get 500-600 Mbps which is enough for my needs, it was a custom server and they provisioned it within hours. I messed up the OS install and they reinstalled it in like an hour. Tickets were answered within minutes. Disk performance is what you'd expect from a dedicated server. I'll need to give this more time but first impressions are excellent.

    I'm gonna have to ammend that review a bit. Even though the first impressions with the server, network and support were great, the server isn't working well for my needs. I set up a plex server. Even though the Cpu has a 4000 passmark score, it cannot transcode a single 1080p stream, guess it's too old (amd phenom x4). The inbound network does work around the 500 Mbps but it tends to do 3-400 way more often. Also, outbound network isn't working very well, at least to my location in Central America. I have better network performance going to another box in France. I can't really fault them too much for any of this but I will be canceling nonetheless. They might work for others but did not work properly for me, which is a shame because I really wanted to like them.

  • AidanAidan Member

    hacktek said: it cannot transcode a single 1080p stream, guess it's too old (amd phenom x4)

    https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=amd+phenom+ii+x4+965&id=370

    That's just enough for 720p, you need a ~2k passmark per core to get smooth 1080p transcoding.

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  • @hacktek said:

    @hacktek said: I just got a dedi there. I think this price is unbeatable for a 4000 passmark CPU under $20. I get 500-600 Mbps which is enough for my needs, it was a custom server and they provisioned it within hours. I messed up the OS install and they reinstalled it in like an hour. Tickets were answered within minutes. Disk performance is what you'd expect from a dedicated server. I'll need to give this more time but first impressions are excellent.

    I'm gonna have to ammend that review a bit. Even though the first impressions with the server, network and support were great, the server isn't working well for my needs. I set up a plex server. Even though the Cpu has a 4000 passmark score, it cannot transcode a single 1080p stream, guess it's too old (amd phenom x4). The inbound network does work around the 500 Mbps but it tends to do 3-400 way more often. Also, outbound network isn't working very well, at least to my location in Central America. I have better network performance going to another box in France. I can't really fault them too much for any of this but I will be canceling nonetheless. They might work for others but did not work properly for me, which is a shame because I really wanted to like them.

    I use them and very happy with them, however they are no good for a plex server simply because of the their peering to google drive and my location. Apart from that I consistently max out my gigabit port in both directions. You need to get a slightly faster cpu, sometimes that can cause a bottleneck on traffic.

    An idling dedi, is a good dedi

  • @machine123 said:

    @hacktek said:

    @hacktek said: I just got a dedi there. I think this price is unbeatable for a 4000 passmark CPU under $20. I get 500-600 Mbps which is enough for my needs, it was a custom server and they provisioned it within hours. I messed up the OS install and they reinstalled it in like an hour. Tickets were answered within minutes. Disk performance is what you'd expect from a dedicated server. I'll need to give this more time but first impressions are excellent.

    I'm gonna have to ammend that review a bit. Even though the first impressions with the server, network and support were great, the server isn't working well for my needs. I set up a plex server. Even though the Cpu has a 4000 passmark score, it cannot transcode a single 1080p stream, guess it's too old (amd phenom x4). The inbound network does work around the 500 Mbps but it tends to do 3-400 way more often. Also, outbound network isn't working very well, at least to my location in Central America. I have better network performance going to another box in France. I can't really fault them too much for any of this but I will be canceling nonetheless. They might work for others but did not work properly for me, which is a shame because I really wanted to like them.

    I use them and very happy with them, however they are no good for a plex server simply because of the their peering to google drive and my location. Apart from that I consistently max out my gigabit port in both directions. You need to get a slightly faster cpu, sometimes that can cause a bottleneck on traffic.

    Same here. Network is HE. Its not the best but is certainly going to be better than france for US unless you have some external factors affecting it on your side.

  • hacktekhacktek Member

    Yeah, YMMV obviously. I'm perfectly OK with 300-500 Mbps inbound but the outbound bit is what's messing me up really. Can't even get 15 Mbps consistently to my location so I can't stream anything properly. I agree that the theory says US should be better than France but in this particular case it isn't for whatever reason. Whatever works for you, like I said I can't really fault them too much for any of it.

  • @hacktek said: Yeah, YMMV obviously. I'm perfectly OK with 300-500 Mbps inbound but the outbound bit is what's messing me up really. Can't even get 15 Mbps consistently to my location so I can't stream anything properly. I agree that the theory says US should be better than France but in this particular case it isn't for whatever reason. Whatever works for you, like I said I can't really fault them too much for any of it.

    Who's your ISP?

  • hacktekhacktek Member

    @Aidan said:

    hacktek said: it cannot transcode a single 1080p stream, guess it's too old (amd phenom x4)

    https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=amd+phenom+ii+x4+965&id=370

    That's just enough for 720p, you need a ~2k passmark per core to get smooth 1080p transcoding.

    That's interesting. I always thought it was 1500 passmark overall per 1080p stream, didn't know it was per core. That was obviously my bad.

  • saibalsaibal Member

    If you hv to stay with this server, you could try creating optimized versions of the files on the plex server itself and direct streaming them.

  • hacktekhacktek Member

    @Crandolph said:

    @hacktek said: Yeah, YMMV obviously. I'm perfectly OK with 300-500 Mbps inbound but the outbound bit is what's messing me up really. Can't even get 15 Mbps consistently to my location so I can't stream anything properly. I agree that the theory says US should be better than France but in this particular case it isn't for whatever reason. Whatever works for you, like I said I can't really fault them too much for any of it.

    Who's your ISP?

    Tigo in Costa Rica, where I live.

  • @hacktek said:

    @Crandolph said:

    @hacktek said: Yeah, YMMV obviously. I'm perfectly OK with 300-500 Mbps inbound but the outbound bit is what's messing me up really. Can't even get 15 Mbps consistently to my location so I can't stream anything properly. I agree that the theory says US should be better than France but in this particular case it isn't for whatever reason. Whatever works for you, like I said I can't really fault them too much for any of it.

    Who's your ISP?

    Tigo in Costa Rica, where I live.

    Coasta Rica. That's the issue. Maybe use a Miami location perhaps.

  • lemonlemon Member

    @Crandolph said: great prices

    is there something hidden or do you refer to their standard pricings on the start page? https://www.nocix.net/vps/

  • @lemon said:

    @Crandolph said: great prices

    is there something hidden or do you refer to their standard pricings on the start page? https://www.nocix.net/vps/

    Don't go to Nocix for a VPS, go to BuyVM or Ramonde. Use Nocix for dedicated servers.

  • hacktekhacktek Member

    @Crandolph said:

    @hacktek said:

    @Crandolph said:

    @hacktek said: Yeah, YMMV obviously. I'm perfectly OK with 300-500 Mbps inbound but the outbound bit is what's messing me up really. Can't even get 15 Mbps consistently to my location so I can't stream anything properly. I agree that the theory says US should be better than France but in this particular case it isn't for whatever reason. Whatever works for you, like I said I can't really fault them too much for any of it.

    Who's your ISP?

    Tigo in Costa Rica, where I live.

    Coasta Rica. That's the issue. Maybe use a Miami location perhaps.

    Yeah of course, I know. Miami is our best peering from here but I've seldom had issues to anywhere in the US. Even OVH in Canada has been great for me from here. There must be something funky about my route specifically to Nocix for France to provide better performance. That defies the basic premise of lower latency being better more often than not.

  • @hacktek said:

    @Crandolph said:

    @hacktek said:

    @Crandolph said:

    @hacktek said: Yeah, YMMV obviously. I'm perfectly OK with 300-500 Mbps inbound but the outbound bit is what's messing me up really. Can't even get 15 Mbps consistently to my location so I can't stream anything properly. I agree that the theory says US should be better than France but in this particular case it isn't for whatever reason. Whatever works for you, like I said I can't really fault them too much for any of it.

    Who's your ISP?

    Tigo in Costa Rica, where I live.

    Coasta Rica. That's the issue. Maybe use a Miami location perhaps.

    Yeah of course, I know. Miami is our best peering from here but I've seldom had issues to anywhere in the US. Even OVH in Canada has been great for me from here. There must be something funky about my route specifically to Nocix for France to provide better performance. That defies the basic premise of lower latency being better more often than not.

    If you want to learn more about HE routing go to their site, tons of info about their network.

  • xalitustxalitust Member
    edited March 12

    I've had a "Sexcore" server with these guys for ~2 months. For the price it's amazing, support was awesome when I screwed up my OS install (< 1hr response to ticket messages). Can't beat if for the price, but I wouldn't be hosting anything mission critical there.

  • CrandolphCrandolph Member
    edited March 12

    @xalitust said: I've had a "Sexcore" server with these guys for ~2 months. For the price it's amazing, support was awesome when I screwed up my OS install (< 1hr response to ticket messages). Can't beat if for the price, but I wouldn't be hosting anything mission critical there.

    No issues with hosting something mission critical per se if your using raid. I haven't had any downtime the last 30 days.

  • Crandolf, that was actually funny. Mission critical involves something more than the last 30 days without downtime.

    Nothing wrong with a value host, but you have to be more careful with your assessments.

    Mission critical involves hardware, network resilience, noc staffing, and long term outcomes.

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