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KVM in EU, ~4€/month

PilzbaumPilzbaum Member
edited January 2018 in Requests

Hi guys,

I'm looking for a server with following specs:

CPU: should be decent, 1 or 2 cores
RAM: 2 GB+, 3 GB would be nice
Storage: 200 GB+ HDD/SAS, extreme minimum 150 GB
OS: Linux/Debian (Debian 8), KVM (no OpenVZ or similar!)
Network: 100 Mbps+ & 1 dedicated IPv4, IPv6 Subnet & 1 Gbps would be nice
Location: Central Europe
Price: ~ 4€ a month or less, VAT included, maximum would be 50-55 €/year
I want to pay semi-/annually if possible or cheaper.

Some additional information/usage, which can be considered critical:
I want to setup a mail and a vpn server for me/my family/friends (private).

Personally, I'm looking at netcup, as they had a nice offer once (RS 500 SAS or similar for 3,5€/month at Christmas 2016, which I missed, respectively 5€/month last autumn, a bit too expensive) and perhaps they make one soon.

But maybe you have some new year deals!

Comments

  • WSSWSS Member

    Me too.

    • AOL
  • Doubt it

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  • @Pilzbaum said:

    at Christmas 2016
    ...
    perhaps they make one soon.

    doesn't look like it, they didn't have many cheap SAS offers during BF or christmas and nothing in the 3-4 € ballpark anyway. the 5€ offer would have been your best bet, but it's sold out since a few weeks either.

    you simply need to raise your budget if you want more disk.

    beside wishosting offer you could go for the 750GB storage of UltraVPS https://www.ultravps.eu/en/?pdid=OB595E46555DO6331C64 (aff), which is 48€ yearly but only 1GB (should suffice for mailserver and vpn anyway)

    or ping @Abdullah from hosthatch who made some awesome deals lately, maybe he has some space left to cut you a custom deal.

    Thanked by 2UltraVPS Pilzbaum
  • Thank you @Falzo!
    That offer looks pretty decent, but do you really think 1 GB is enough for mail server and nextcloud (apache2)? If yes, I'm likely gonna take it but I have questions/concerns:

    1. It bothers me that they only give 10 IPv6 addresses as I've read much about the wrong IPv6 implementation of providers. Is it a problem with openvpn (I want to try to setup one up with IPv4 & Ipv6)?
    2. It looks like all storage offers are only available in Amsterdam. Can this be changed later? Not that important (already europe) but I thought I'd ask
    3. Can I only pay with/via Paypal or are there some other options too?
    4. How is the overall performance (CPU, HDD and network)? I found this https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/43266/need-ultravps-review but it's from 2015.
    5. Any resource limits? I found nothing except the notice period of 4 weeks

    Thanks in advance

  • @Pilzbaum said:
    Thank you @Falzo!
    That offer looks pretty decent, but do you really think 1 GB is enough for mail server and nextcloud (apache2)? If yes, I'm likely gonna take it but I have questions/concerns:

    1. It bothers me that they only give 10 IPv6 addresses as I've read much about the wrong IPv6 implementation of providers. Is it a problem with openvpn (I want to try to setup one up with IPv4 & Ipv6)?
    2. It looks like all storage offers are only available in Amsterdam. Can this be changed later? Not that important (already europe) but I thought I'd ask
    3. Can I only pay with/via Paypal or are there some other options too?
    4. How is the overall performance (CPU, HDD and network)? I found this https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/43266/need-ultravps-review but it's from 2015.
    5. Any resource limits? I found nothing except the notice period of 4 weeks

    Thanks in advance

    you didn't mention the need for a lamp stack / nextcloud but anyway - I am using Filerun on it which is nextcloud based, so yeah, I don't see a problem with only 1G RAM...

    1) can't tell exactly, I don't use openvpn nor am I really into IPv6 yet - maybe soon™ :-)

    2) their storage things are only available in NL so far, so most likely nowhere else to switch to ;-)

    3) afaik paypal is needed at least for the initial order, maybe you could switch to SEPA afterwards? never asked...

    4) geekbench: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/4979189 (from their 2TB instancen, but CPU power is the same anyway)

    network speeds:

    # bash serverbench.sh
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    CPU model            : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz
    Number of cores      : 1
    CPU frequency        : 2600.121 MHz
    Total amount of ram  : 2010 MB
    Total amount of swap : 465 MB
    System uptime        : 65days, 12:3:22
    Load average         : 0.14, 0.06, 0.03
    OS                   : Debian GNU/Linux 8
    Arch                 : x86_64 (64 Bit)
    Kernel               : 3.16.0-4-amd64
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Node Name           IPv4 address        Download Speed
    CacheFly            205.234.175.175     107MB/s
    Linode, Tokyo, JP       106.187.96.148      8.62MB/s
    DO, Bangalore, IN       139.59.44.249       11.5MB/s
    Softlayer, Chennai, IN      169.38.65.84        13.5MB/s
    Vultr, Singapore, SG        45.32.100.168       9.64MB/s
    DO, Singapore, SG       128.199.210.182     10.6MB/s
    Linode, Singapore, SG       139.162.23.4        10.8MB/s
    Softlayer, Singapore, SG    119.81.28.170       8.53MB/s
    Leaseweb, Singapore, SG     103.254.153.18      12.2MB/s
    Softlayer, HongKong, CN     119.81.130.170      8.68MB/s
    Leaseweb, HongKong, CN      43.249.36.49        7.08MB/s
    Vultr, Sydney, AUS      108.61.212.117      8.00MB/s
    Softlayer, Sydney, AUS      168.1.1.212     6.49MB/s
    Softlayer, Melbourne, AUS   168.1.65.244        6.52MB/s
    Tele2, Gothenberg, SE       90.130.74.151       34.0MB/s
    Tele2, Kista, SE        90.130.74.149       39.6MB/s
    Softlayer, Milan, IT        159.122.128.84      54.5MB/s
    Prometeus, Milan, IT        37.247.53.10        20.5MB/s
    Tele2, Riga, LV     90.130.74.113       32.7MB/s
    Tele2, Vilnius, LT      90.130.74.117       31.0MB/s
    Server.LU, Luxembourg, LU   94.242.192.2        53.7MB/s
    Tele2, Frankfurt, DE        90.130.74.155       86.1MB/s
    Vultr, Frankfurt, DE        108.61.210.117      68.1MB/s
    Linode, Frankfurt, DE       139.162.130.8       90.7MB/s
    Softlayer, Frankfurt, DE    159.122.69.4        85.9MB/s
    Leaseweb, Frankfurt, DE     37.58.58.140        112MB/s
    DO, Frankfurt, DE       46.101.201.140      78.4MB/s
    Vultr, Paris, FR        108.61.209.127      61.3MB/s
    OVH, Gravelines, FR     5.196.90.200        57.9MB/s
    OVH, Strasbourg, FR     5.135.128.81        30.9MB/s
    OVH, Roubaix, FR        188.165.12.106      66.1MB/s
    Online.Net, Paris, FR       62.210.18.40        66.8MB/s
    Tele2, Amsterdam, NL        90.130.74.153       66.2MB/s
    Vultr, Amsterdam, NL        108.61.198.102      60.3MB/s
    DO 2, Amsterdam, NL     146.185.152.145     81.5MB/s
    DO 3, Amsterdam, NL     178.62.219.145      90.9MB/s
    Leaseweb, Amsterdam, NL     5.79.108.33     92.1MB/s
    i3d, Amsterdam, NL      213.163.76.200      107MB/s
    Vultr, London, UK       108.61.196.101      61.3MB/s
    DO, London, UK      188.166.152.227     91.1MB/s
    Linode, London, UK      176.58.107.39       101MB/s
    Softlayer, London, UK       5.10.97.132     87.5MB/s
    Softlayer, Mexico, MX       169.57.4.116        12.9MB/s
    Softlayer, Brazil, BR       169.57.128.148      9.17MB/s
    DO 1, NYC, USA      67.205.188.39       21.7MB/s
    DO 2, NYC, USA      162.243.9.77        23.8MB/s
    DO 3, NYC, USA      138.197.20.252      23.0MB/s
    Vultr, New Jersey, USA      108.61.149.182      24.9MB/s
    Linode, Newark, USA     50.116.57.237       26.5MB/s
    Vultr, Illinois, USA        107.191.51.12       21.2MB/s
    Vultr, Atlanta, USA     108.61.193.166      22.5MB/s
    Linode, Atlanta, USA        50.116.39.117       18.4MB/s
    Vultr, Miami, USA       104.156.244.232     19.3MB/s
    Vultr, Washington, USA      108.61.194.105      14.7MB/s
    Softlayer, Seattle, USA     67.228.112.250      14.5MB/s
    Leaseweb, Washington, USA   207.244.94.80       24.2MB/s
    Vultr, Dallas, USA      108.61.224.175      18.6MB/s
    Linode, Dallas, USA     50.116.25.154       17.4MB/s
    Softlayer, Dallas, USA      173.192.68.18       17.7MB/s
    Leaseweb, Dallas, USA       209.58.153.1        17.9MB/s
    Vultr, Los Angeles, USA     108.61.219.200      14.9MB/s
    DO, San Francisco, USA      138.68.237.46       13.5MB/s
    DO, San Francisco, USA      192.241.209.37      14.7MB/s
    Linode, Fremont, USA        50.116.14.9     9.05MB/s
    Leaseweb, San Francisco, USA    209.58.135.187      12.0MB/s
    DO, Toronto, CA     138.197.135.163     19.8MB/s
    OVH, Beauharnois, CA        192.99.19.165       6.17MB/s
    EastLink, Canada, CA        24.222.0.194        6.38MB/s
    Softlayer, Montreal, CA     169.54.124.180      21.7MB/s
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Node Name           IPv6 address        Download Speed
    Linode, Atlanta, GA     2600:3c02::4b       19.3MB/s
    Linode, Dallas, TX      2600:3c00::4b       17.2MB/s
    Linode, Newark, NJ      2600:3c03::4b       25.3MB/s
    Linode, Singapore, SG       2400:8901::4b       12.5MB/s
    Linode, Tokyo, JP       2400:8900::4b       9.06MB/s
    Softlayer, Paris, FR        2a03:8180:1301:8::4 77.6MB/s
    Softlayer, Tokyo, JP        2401:c900:1001:16::4    8.71MB/s
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    I/O speed(1st run) : 153 MB/s
    I/O speed(2nd run) : 147 MB/s
    I/O speed(3rd run) : 161 MB/s
    Average I/O speed  : 153.667 MB/s
    

    5) how is that meant? you can use the resources you get... but you shouldn't do anything illegal, like with all providers. just read their tos:

    The customer obligates himself not to use the services made available by the provider for the spreading of illegal or immoral information or for other abusive purposes, in particular  
     - to ensure the observance of legal requirements, particularly also the protection of minors;  
     - to observe national and international intellectual property rights, particularly not to save pirate copies, crack programs, illegal sound files or collections of serial numbers on the servers;  
     - not to spread contents which violate legal prohibition, third party morality or rights, particularly trademark rights, rights to a name or copyrights;  
     - not to offer, transmit or ask for the transmission of computer viruses, Trojan horses, unsolicited bulk e-mail (UBE) or unsolicited commercial e-mails;  
     - not to use equipment or execute applications which could lead to interferences or changes in the physical or logic configuration of the providers web servers. This especially applies for CGI-program modules which are not being kept in the providers program libraries.

    and as you already noted

    Should the contract not be cancelled in written text with a cancellation period of four weeks before the expiration of the contract, it is renewed...

    there is an option to cancel within their control panel, can't exactly say if they require anything more, because I am not going to press that button on any of my services ^^

    Thanked by 2Pilzbaum UltraVPS
  • Thanks again!

    Yes, I forgot to mention my lamp with nextcloud! Gonna test around a bit.

    Network and CPU look great.
    To 5: I meant something like CPU limitation over time (overall usage < 0.5)
    Better explained here I think https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/16250/understanding-aup-s-cpu-load-terms

  • @Pilzbaum said:
    Thanks again!

    Yes, I forgot to mention my lamp with nextcloud! Gonna test around a bit.

    Network and CPU look great.
    To 5: I meant something like CPU limitation over time (overall usage < 0.5)
    Better explained here I think https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/16250/understanding-aup-s-cpu-load-terms

    no, it's not OVZ but KVM. also decent providers don't need to define crappy virtual limitations via TOS, they rather implement proper balancing on the hypervisor ;-)

    Thanked by 1Pilzbaum
  • Make sure you do your research on the providers, cough cough.

  • check time4vps once

  • @Pilzbaum said:
    1. It bothers me that they only give 10 IPv6 addresses as I've read much about the wrong IPv6 implementation of providers. Is it a problem with openvpn (I want to try to setup one up with IPv4 & Ipv6)?

    OpenVPN needs one ip/port combination per instance. What problems do you envision?

    1. Can I only pay with/via Paypal or are there some other options too?

    Payment is through Paypal, but a Paypal account is not needed.

    Thanked by 2Pilzbaum UltraVPS
  • someshzade said: check time4vps once

    openvz

  • WHTWHT Member

    If a server have 128gb ram the provider can create 64 vps servers with each 2gb ram. If he sells 1gb ram for $2 he gets $256 per month.
    In additional he pays licenses like solusvm ($10 month), paypal fees like $40, ips like $64 month, and on the end remains ~$130 for the server fees.

    Am curious to know how they do exists :) ?

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