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    WHT Lifting Unlimited Ban

    Awmusic12635Awmusic12635 Member, Provider

    Seems the times are changing over @ WHT. They are lifting their ban on unlimited offers soon.

    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1302467

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    • Unlimited disk space? Sign me up

    • RadiRadi Member, Provider

      You gonna upload some 500 GB files?

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    • WebProjectWebProject Member, Provider
      edited September 2013

      @Bogdacutuu said:
      Unlimited disk space? Sign me up

      I am after unlimited dedicated server or datacenter - pay for one Unlimited server and get unlimited everything. Any one can help? $7 p/m or under, please?

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    • CoreyCorey Member, Provider

      I'm gunna sign up for all these unlimited plans :)

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    • Can't wait to see next summer's shared hosting offers!

    • VPNshVPNsh Member, Provider

      Anybody else tempted to sign up for an unlimited plan and just absolutely annihilate the resources? I really do think this is a bad move on WHT's part.

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    • nunimnunim Member
      edited September 2013

      @liamwithers said:
      Anybody else tempted to sign up for an unlimited plan and just absolutely annihilate the resources? I really do think this is a bad move on WHT's part.

      What makes you think these won't be subject to the same "fair use" and excessive TOS restrictions as before?

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    • CoreyCorey Member, Provider

      @nunim said:
      What makes you think these won't be subject to the same "fair use" and excessive TOS restrictions as before?

      Yea summer hosts will put in a server with a 500GB drive and then suspend you if you use 400GB because that isn't fair to other customers.....

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    • CoreyCorey Member, Provider

      @liamwithers said:
      Anybody else tempted to sign up for an unlimited plan and just absolutely annihilate the resources? I really do think this is a bad move on WHT's part.

      I will use every bit of disk they allow me to use.

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    • These days everything is unlimited.

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    • CoreyCorey Member, Provider

      @concerto49 said:
      These days everything is unlimited.

      Data on my verizon cell phone isn't.

      I went with sprint 'the only real unlimited provider' and I got shut off for using too much data.

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    • VPNshVPNsh Member, Provider

      @nunim said:
      What makes you think these won't be subject to the same "fair use" and excessive TOS restrictions as before?

      Well obviously it's likely they'll have a fair use, in which case the "unlimited" thing is kind of pointless in the first place. However if they do have a TOS, I'll be more than happy to take advantage of whatever usage there is. I'd also imagine that the TOS on many of these would be far more generous than what they can offer every single customer, in which case I'd still be more than happy to use whatever is available. At the end of the day, I personally believe that anybody supporting "unlimited" bandwidth or disk space in this industry could do with a bit of a heads-up on the fact that "unlimited" does not exist.

      @Corey said:
      I will use every bit of disk they allow me to use.

      Fair play. Think they'll keep this up, or do you think they'll change their mind? The response on WHT hasn't been overly positive :P

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    • CoreyCorey Member, Provider

      @liamwithers said:
      Fair play. Think they'll keep this up, or do you think they'll change their mind? The response on WHT hasn't been overly positive :P

      I'm not sure - they must have some agenda.

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    • Maybe WHT is more threatened by other web presences these days so they feel the need to allow this for more traffic/revenue.

    • CoreyCorey Member, Provider

      @Dorkfiles said:
      Maybe WHT is more threatened by other web presences these days so they feel the need to allow this for more traffic/revenue.

      Who threatens them? LOL... they are THE resource for hosting related topics.

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    • most likely due to advertisement pressure (i.e the so called unlimited providers) unlimited disk space is possible in certain ways. Bitcasa does it well.

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    • @Corey said:
      I went with sprint 'the only real unlimited provider' and I got shut off for using too much data.

      Cell Phone companies somehow manage to charge an INSANE amount of money for their service. I get ~450GB data monthly from my Cable ISP for like... $50 per month. I pay $50 per month (or more!) for a mere 2GB of 3G Data PER MONTH!!! That's $25 PER GIGABYTE!!! How do they get away with such monopolies!?!?!?!

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    • @Magiobiwan said:
      Cell Phone companies somehow manage to charge an INSANE amount of money for their service. I get ~450GB data monthly from my Cable ISP for like... $50 per month. I pay $50 per month (or more!) for a mere 2GB of 3G Data PER MONTH!!! That's $25 PER GIGABYTE!!! How do they get away with such monopolies!?!?!?!

      I have an even more strange situation in romania. Some providers charge 5 Eur for 100 MB of traffic on phone and I have a 2 Eur subscription that offers 5 GB and then lower speed, not more charge or shutoff. How can the 100 MB still exist, that is a big mystery.

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    • jarjar Provider

      It's about time. Otherwise they were fast becoming "last ones still clinging to their guns talk." The market has already spoken, unlimited sells, most people don't have any issue with it because they're using it for websites and not uploading dd generated block files just to say "lol see it's not unlimited!"

    • DomainBopDomainBop Member
      edited September 2013

      The market has already spoken, unlimited sells, most people don't have any issue with it because they're using it for websites

      The webhosting industry has been using the "unlimited" marketing gimmick for shared hosting plans since the 1990's. When you think about it, selling "unlimited" shared hosting plans isn't really much different (or any more dishonest) than certain OpenVZ providers who sell 200GB+ RAM on a 32GB E3 node. In both cases if all of the customers ever tried to use their full plan resources both the customer and the provider would be screwed. :)

      TL;DR in the mid 1990's there was a mass migration of used car salesmen from used car lots to the marketing departments of many web hosting companies.

    • jarjar Provider
      edited September 2013

      Honestly most of the assumptions about it are wrong anyway. The hosts have mostly adopted the style of if you can fill too much space legitimately, it's their burden, just don't fill it with personal backups. Most people go to a web host for a website, and generally you don't keep adding gigabytes of data without also growing in traffic eventually and outgrowing shared hosting anyway. It's not just a gimmick, it's marketing websites to people who don't want to be nerds, they just want a website. Making them feel like they won't hit walls that they don't even know how to see...there's value there.

    • it's marketing websites to people who don't want to be nerds, they just want a website.

      Another way of thinking of it is that it's marketing websites to people who don't have any technical knowledge and if you tell them an apple is an orange 99% of them will believe you and buy your product...and then when their site grows and they discover unlimited was really 10GB they'll find WHT and start a thread complaining that you shut them down for using 11GB on an unlimited plan. I'm sticking with my used car salesman analogy. :P

    • haseltinehaseltine Member
      edited September 2013

      @Magiobiwan said:
      Cell Phone companies somehow manage to charge an INSANE amount of money for their service. I get ~450GB data monthly from my Cable ISP for like... $50 per month. I pay $50 per month (or more!) for a mere 2GB of 3G Data PER MONTH!!! That's $25 PER GIGABYTE!!! How do they get away with such monopolies!?!?!?!

      @Maounique said:
      I have an even more strange situation in romania. Some providers charge 5 Eur for 100 MB of traffic on phone and I have a 2 Eur subscription that offers 5 GB and then lower speed, not more charge or shutoff. How can the 100 MB still exist, that is a big mystery.

      I guess they're all the same anywhere in the world. Here in Malaysia/Singapore they charge like 3GB at the rate of $17.64 USD.

      Bla Bla Bla

    • shovenoseshovenose Member, Provider

      @haseltine said:
      I guess they're all the same anywhere in the world. Here in Malaysia/Singapore they charge like 3GB at the rate of $17.64 USD.

      That's a good price!

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      @shovenose said:
      That's a good price!

      Seriously I pay $10/gb. It's straight up robbery. I get it though, it's easy to talk when you're not the network admin for a wireless service. Still pisses me off though.

    • Welcome EIG to WHT :))

    • jarjar Provider

      @thuvienvps said:
      Welcome EIG to WHT :))

      That'd be like Ford advertising at used car auctions...sure it could be done but that's not where the average shopper is found ;)

    • I am not sure the Ford analogy is good, personally I would buy used computers and also high end servers, depends on the use, so, advertising Supermicro at a garage sale for used laptops and thin clients would probably make me consider it. Same with cars, some people might buy an used car for their 16 yo while thinking of a maseratti for themselves, I know at least a person that did that and also has BMW and mercedes half a dozen.

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      What

    • MaouniqueMaounique Member
      edited September 2013

      I mean advertising Ford at a used cars auction is not at all something to discard beforehand. It makes a lot of sense.
      Advertizing Ferrari would be a bit off, but Ford not at all.

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    • jarjar Provider

      The ketchup packets are free

    • Ford with unlimited fuel!

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    • It's like saying Murica with unlimited warfare

      Bla Bla Bla

    • Most of these "unlimited" plans have a lot of hidden clauses in their ToS.

      I remember a host that had "unlimited" disk space, but one of the clauses was that you could use only XX GB for the first month and after that you could add XX GB more space.

      Personally, I'm absolutely against such impossible to achieve technically plans, as they only mislead the customers. It's looks more like a pure scam.

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    • Expect big companies (hint EIG) join in and pay big to advertise, = WIN for WHT

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    • @INIZ said:
      Expect big companies (hint EIG) join in and pay big to advertise, = WIN for WHT

      Yeah, WHT probably needs the money. They will always value that more than long-time members.

      Seriously, they didn't even give a proper argument as to why to remove this ban. The original reason for the ban is still there, technological advancement doesn't have anything to do with that.

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    • agoldenbergagoldenberg Member, Provider

      Anyone else think it'll just be a million threads of Unlimited Everything $1 then in the thread (First Month!!!) Afterwards only $999.99

    • I have heard of people abusing dreamhost's unlimited plans in ways describe in this thread, with people claiming to push multiple terabytes of mp3 backups

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    • smansman Member
      edited September 2013

      Providers over promising selling to buyers with unrealistic expectations and/or habitual abusers. They were mean't for each other.

    • @agoldenberg said:
      Anyone else think it'll just be a million threads of Unlimited Everything $1 then in the thread (First Month!!!) Afterwards only $999.99

      I'm sure plenty of providers will be able to manage unlimited for 1 cent/lifetime

    • jarjar Provider
      edited September 2013

      Armchair commentators will never be truly pleased by anything. If the internet has taught us anything, it's that. Reality is customers aren't being scammed because they aren't trying to abuse it. Reality is most of these hosts have less of those exception clauses than they used to. Reality is it just gets under the skin of people who have to have everyone else do everything their way. Reality trumps theory and people can't stand it because their theory is logical. Such is life.

      It is absolutely no more or less logical or "dishonest" than any 2+gb LEB offer.

    • @jarland said:
      It is absolutely no more or less logical or "dishonest" than any 2+gb LEB offer.

      Except 2+GB LEB offers are possible even for KVM and Xen. And with decent speeds and even SSD. Sure, not unlimited traffic or something, but it is possible.

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    • All this fuss about "unlimited" stems (IMO) from people misunderstanding the word.

      It means there is no set limit.

      It does not mean infinite.

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    • When everybody is going "unlimited" no way not to remove this WHT rule ...

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    • draziloxdrazilox Member
      edited September 2013

      @haseltine said:
      I guess they're all the same anywhere in the world. Here in Malaysia/Singapore they charge like 3GB at the rate of $17.64 USD.

      Not really. Here in Finland, I have 21mb/s unlimited data for ~$18,5 (and 50mb/s unlimited would be ~$26)

    • I think 5 GB/month is enough at 21 mbps rest at 128 kbps, if I ever go over, i usually listen to radio and watch tv when I am on route, it never goes over 1 GB. At 2 Eur a month cant ask for more.

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