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Why renting IPs for shoes stuff is disliked?
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Why renting IPs for shoes stuff is disliked?

Hey guys.

All IP owners care about their IP blocks "health" (no mailers, spam etc.). I know emailing, seo link spamming tools, malware, botnet controlers may lead to IP ranges blacklisting here and there, spamhaus etc.

Ive never heard about abuse because of shoes stuff (renting IPs to buy some shoes at nike.com etc). Im missing something? What problems IP block owner may have because of shoes releated activity? Im just curious :)

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  • JSCLJSCL Member, Provider

    I've known IP ranges be blocked by some of the major CDN's because of sneaker/shoe stuff. It's just another abusive activity, like the ticket snatching stuff that was once more prominent.

  • Thanks @JSCL Ive never heard about this. Most (or all) shoes sites use CDN's so it makes sense :)

  • NeoonNeoon Member
    edited December 2017

    IOT with shoes? Why?

    Do they should get hacked too and send porn and spam?

    Its enough when my fridge gets hacked and sends spam.

  • DamianDamian Member
    edited December 2017

    It's not future problems, it's current problems:

    Shoes and tickets have gotten to the point where their automatic blocking heuristics are pretty much exactly spot on for being able to block wide ranges of IPs almost instantly. Therefore, customer feels that they didn't get their usage out of the service, so they want to refund their payment after destroying the reputation of the IP block against the shoe or ticket site. A waste of time for everyone involved.

    I will admit that I'm not even sure why they want to rent mass IPs from a company. Things like VPNGate provide almost unlimited free residential IPs that would be better purposed for this.

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  • jarjar Provider

    Every single time an IP gets blocked by someone, it takes away a small piece of the value of that IP address. IP addresses are static assets, their cost not diminishing, their value subject to the level of pride you take in them. If you take a lot of pride in them, they continually increase in value.

    Founder @ MXroute

  • mainly because they want so many, you cant truly guarantee what they are going to do with them and they want it on a monthly basis for scalping.

    I imagine if they were willing to take them on a 2 years lease it would be different (paid in advance), otherwise, why risk your IP's on a pump and dump scheme.

    I am no longer active here, find me at https://talk.lowendspirit.com

  • defaultdefault Member
    edited December 2017

    Coming up next: IP bad reputation for renting escorts while asking for refunds.

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    Fastmako (aff) - another cheap VPS.

  • Used IP to get a twatter account. My IP feels disgusted.

    StopIPshaming

  • Had no idea "sneaker proxies" was a thing. I feel like a grandpa trying to understand bitcoin.

    HarzemDesign and FraudRecord I have these. I have some new pre-made designs. Contact me if you are interested, they are half price.

  • @Harzem said:
    Had no idea "sneaker proxies" was a thing. I feel like a grandpa trying to understand bitcoin.

    We had quiet a few threads about requests regarding such VPS / IP blocks.

  • Harzem said: Had no idea "sneaker proxies" was a thing. I feel like a grandpa trying to understand bitcoin.

    Never understood the reference either, what it is they're doing specifically to sneakers. I've just assumed link spam.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    It's the same as wasting IPs for "SEO".

    "Jarland is stupid."

  • @ricardo said:

    Harzem said: Had no idea "sneaker proxies" was a thing. I feel like a grandpa trying to understand bitcoin.

    Never understood the reference either, what it is they're doing specifically to sneakers. I've just assumed link spam.

    You buy limited edition sneaker shoes on nike.com etc and resell them for profit.

    These limited editions are generally, well, limited to one or two per ip.

    Gotta get your Breezy Weezy Limited Squeezy Ultra Tornado MK 2009 shoes somewhere.

  • ricardo said: Never understood the reference either, what it is they're doing specifically to sneakers. I've just assumed link spam.

    No, apparently there are entire businesses built around getting dedicated IPs to purchase discounted sneakers from dealers.

    HarzemDesign and FraudRecord I have these. I have some new pre-made designs. Contact me if you are interested, they are half price.

  • Basically, it's scalping; buying up limited stock of shit you don't want at retail prices, holding onto stock to drive the price up, then selling it for as much as possible; absolutely no difference to people who do the same thing with concert tickets.

    It's a fucking disgrace and anyone asking for IPs for sneaker proxies should not only be banned from LET, but also arse-fucked with a great big rake before having two watching homeless gentlemen with STDs ejaculate into their gaped anus.

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  • Same kind of people that mine cryptos on netcup KVMs...

  • Harzem said: purchase discounted sneakers from dealers.

    Flip that over: buying limited-editions to put onto eBay at elevated prices towards people who weren't able to get them at regular retail price.

    My wife works at A Major Producer Of Brand Name Sporting Goods coming up with ways to stop this, among the other things she does there.

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  • @pike said:
    Same kind of people that mine cryptos on netcup KVMs...

    Then again, those cores ARE advertised as dedicated.

    I like my uptime down low and my servers all hacked. Can see me droppin' twenty-fours with a router in the rack.
    Ya like ya Switch-Ports hot and ya servers all hacked. If ya pings real high and ya networks pitch black.

  • Nekki said: but also arse-fucked with a great big rake before having two watching homeless gentlemen with STDs ejaculate into their gaped anus.

    Vivid description, no further questions...

    For those who care:
    You can now find me at https://talk.lowendspirit.com or https://www.hostballs.com

  • Nekki said: arse-fucked with a great big rake before having two watching homeless gentlemen with STDs ejaculate into their gaped anus

    You are rising the punishment list into another level, mate... Kudos!

  • jarjar Provider

    @pike said:
    Same kind of people that mine cryptos on netcup KVMs...

    Doing that right now. Twelve dedicated cores they said.

    Founder @ MXroute

  • @jarland said:
    Doing that right now. Twelve dedicated cores they said.

    Seems everyone got one of those boxes, except me...

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  • @jarland said:

    @pike said:
    Same kind of people that mine cryptos on netcup KVMs...

    Doing that right now. Twelve dedicated cores they said.

    I've been pushing "dedicated (v)CPU" with providers to see how long it takes them to notice I'm running distributed.net on it limited to 90% CPU on OVZs while trying to figure out why the metering isn't working right under 2.6-OVZ, because it is literally pegging the CPU to 100% whenever it can. Sorry, @trewq- I forgot about that one. :}

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  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Moderator

    How do shoe proxies make the world a better place? They're designed so lowlifes can go out, buy a significant percentage of a new or special shoe, mark it up 200%, and then sell them for a profit. Gee, how noble.

    Shoe proxy men are on the same level as domain squatters, chargeback fruadsters, and Comcast employees. They make the world a worse place for their own profit.

    So, ya know, fuck 'em.

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  • ricardoricardo Member
    edited December 2017

    So why is there a requirement for fresh IPs to buy a product, is this some kind of limited edition 1 per customer thing? And why would it tarnish the IPs?

    Ahh just re-read

    These limited editions are generally, well, limited to one or two per ip.

    Shame they don't know about 'ways' to get IPs for less than a penny an IP per month. :)

  • @jarland said:

    @pike said:
    Same kind of people that mine cryptos on netcup KVMs...

    Doing that right now. Twelve dedicated cores they said.

    and they don't care if you use whatever you get. no one said anything of dedicated L3 cache or guarantued hashrates anyway... ;-)

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  • mfsmfs Banned, Member
    edited December 2017

    pike said: Seems everyone got one of those boxes, except me...

    I sense that a smaller RS is coming soon.. may the shopping force be with you

    apropos mining, I just got a nicely written mail from nazwa, entirely in Polish: from what I understand, they're saying that they're going to enforce a particular clause in the V section of the "Special promotion agreement" which basically limits the max CPU time people could use in a 24 hrs span ( 86400 sekund ) on the biznes serwery line (2 vCPU) and they're going to kill abusers on sight. They don't seem to say they'll terminate them explicitly, but that's the general meaning.
    (Btw they don't seem to allow a 12-month promotion on that same line any more)
    EDIT: they drastically changed the promo (for new users) on 2017-12-08 it seems

    They even got me double check the cpu load on my Polish idling boxes, all of them are still idling hard (0.1 0.2 0.4)

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  • Am I missing something here? Why don't companies just use a captcha? Or do people just continually use fresh IPS manually?

  • @mfs said:

    >

    apropos mining, I just got a nicely written mail from nazwa

    I think it won't be hard to differentiate miners from average users though.

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  • TL:DR we hate banned and blacklisted IPs. Yes they do get banned and blacklisted.

    Catch me over at Primary DNS. If you want to chat I am done with this cesspool.

  • hzrhzr Member, Moderator

    AlexJones said: Am I missing something here? Why don't companies just use a captcha? Or do people just continually use fresh IPS manually?

    Captchas are automatable out, IPs are trashed for fraud and DoS (contually checking for stock/availability flooding requests)

    The shittier shoe people use stolen cards and botnet/hacked PCs too.

  • @mfs said:
    I sense that a smaller RS is coming soon.. may the shopping force be with you

    Not today sadly

  • mfsmfs Banned, Member

    pike said: Not today

    I was F5ing there too.. a managed server, pfffft

    I need no management to idle

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  • shoe gotta be kidding me...

  • @mmuyskens said:
    shoe gotta be kidding me...

    You're one letter away from a lawsuit, buddy.

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  • @WSS said:

    @mmuyskens said:
    shoe gotta be kidding me...

    You're one letter away from a lawsuit, buddy.

    Wouldn't get much from me.... just the soles of my shoes.

  • @mmuyskens said:

    @WSS said:

    @mmuyskens said:
    shoe gotta be kidding me...

    You're one letter away from a lawsuit, buddy.

    Wouldn't get much from me.... just the soles of my shoes.

    Then your shoes would be MINEd.

    SHOEMINING IS A REAL THING, PEOPLE!

  • @WSS said:

    @mmuyskens said:

    @WSS said:

    @mmuyskens said:
    shoe gotta be kidding me...

    You're one letter away from a lawsuit, buddy.

    Wouldn't get much from me.... just the soles of my shoes.

    Then your shoes would be MINEd.

    SHOEMINING IS A REAL THING, PEOPLE!

    Do you shoem on the first date, or do I have to buy dinner first?

  • @mmuyskens said:
    Do you shoem on the first date, or do I have to buy dinner first?

    Getting into their shoes is the first step to knocking boots.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    The end is nigh.

    "Jarland is stupid."

  • So can't buy shoes through my vps people? I will be considered a bad boy if I ever learn to do it.

    I am the ban hammer of LET. Fear Me.

  • @hammer said:
    So can't buy shoes through my vps people? I will be considered a bad boy if I ever learn to do it.

    You might get your bits poked at by Nekki.

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