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My Experience with ChicagoVPS Bargain Bin Dedis

agoldenbergagoldenberg Member, Provider
edited August 2013 in Reviews

Thought I would post my review here.

http://coderandrew.com/review-chicagovps-bargain-bin-dedicated-servers/

TLDR

Pretty good service and pretty good pricing. @CVPS_Adam has been more than helpful. Chris too.

Comments

  • mawrmawr Member

    How is the network for game servers? I've been using their VPSes (KVM & OVZ) in various locations and they all just don't seem fast enough to handle more than 15 players.

  • Since it's a review, you should probably mention the price. The term "reasonable" depends on the weight of one's wallet.

    C, Bash, Perl, Python, PHP, and JS hobbyist. VPS collector. Blog

  • agoldenbergagoldenberg Member, Provider

    Sorry I pay $39 + $6 or $7 for 13 extra IPS.

    Their network seems pretty good for me in their Chicago location. I run a Minecraft server and a Counter-Strike GO server without any lag or issues.

  • DomainBopDomainBop Member
    edited August 2013

    @Jack said:
    Get a box in Buffalo and experience lovely pure Cogent

    My CVPS Buffalo VPS has become increasingly Cogent over the past few months. 35-40ms pings from NYC over Cogent.

    Another example of Cogent's loveliness:
    my location to VPS provider in Milan --routed over Level3 -- 100-110ms
    my location to dedicated server provider in Milan --routed over Cogent -- 140-150ms

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator

    @Jack said:
    Get a box in Buffalo and experience lovely pure Cogent, Chicago is one of the better locations though out of them all.

    Cogent represents only 24% of our traffic in buffalo.

    Jon Biloh
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator

    Telia and XO.

    Jon Biloh
  • @jbiloh when are you guys going to fix your awful odd/even routing?

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  • manacitmanacit Member
    edited August 2013

    I have a server in CC Buffalo and I definitely see a lot of XO in the mix - I also don't see a difference between even/odd routing, maybe I'm crazy?

  • mpkossenmpkossen Member
    edited August 2013

    @Spencer said:
    jbiloh when are you guys going to fix your awful odd/even routing?k

    Maybe it's your ISP... I think the tool mtr will be able to help you diagnose then issue. @rds100 mentioned it a couple of days ago.

    I recommend Prometeus, the best provider ever!

  • SetsuraSetsura Member
    edited August 2013

    I get Telia from the UK and Canada, XO from my home in Florida. As it should be, more or less. Only see cogent from a server in New York as well, 10ms away.

    Will shill for Pop-Tarts(must be strawberry flavour).

  • My OpenVZ VPS been up for 48 days, which is all I care about :)

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator

    @Jack said:
    Haven't seen Telia in a number of months, my subnets I had with you went 100% cogent yet BuyVM has XO from the same source location?

    That's not possible.

    Right now, roughly, 50% of our traffic is over Telia, 30% XO and the balance Cogent.

    We do actually have plans to cancel Cogent at the end of our term in 2 months. Their network is OK but the problems with Comcast are too much to deal with.

    Jon Biloh
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator

    @Spencer said:
    jbiloh when are you guys going to fix your awful odd/even routing?

    This happens because your going over 2 different carriers. One carrier has a better route than the other. Do a trace route to each IP and lets see what it says.

    Jon Biloh
  • @jbiloh said:
    We do actually have plans to cancel Cogent at the end of our term in 2 months. Their network is OK but the problems with Comcast are too much to deal with.

    It's extremely annoying, Comcast is a pretty big eyeball. We've been routing around Cogent to Comcast for a while, things are getting worse and worse. I assume Cogent is holding out for a bigger settlement from Comcast . . .

  • @Jack said:
    How is there different routes for IP's in the exact same /24? They're literally right next to eachother.

    This is due to a manually configured routing policy for traffic balance, typically you would see that in a scenario where the device taking those routes can't handle full BGP tables and is default-route only from the upstream carriers. With default-route only you can't balance based upon destination ASN or route prefix as that particular routing device has no knowledge of that level of granular network detail.

  • If you are considering ChicagoVPS, RUN THE OTHER WAY. There are similarly-priced competitors who do not have the terrible service here. A few weeks ago:

    • Hacked and customer data revealed
    • Very slow to inform customers
    • When they did start informing customers, they contradicted themselves or flat out lied often.
    • Claimed to make back-ups after the last attack but turns out not all nodes have backups
    • They promised back-ups for me but then just inexplicably closed my ticket a few days later without providing any back-ups.
    • You can read more about it at vpsboard (but about 15 pages of records there mysteriously vanished). There's also a thread here at LET. I wish I had been keeping archives of both of these threads because posts have mysteriously gone missing on both sites.
    • Since they said everyone was restored my vps has gone down again and been unreachable on two more separate days! They don't reply to tickets when this happens until many hours later.

    I cannot understand how anyone can still recommend cvps. Even when I was considering them, I saw a few negative reviews and thought nothing of them. But I regret it. CVPS cannot provide the service they promise you. They promise "99.9% up-time guarantee; your site will always be online". But they cannot do it and they have shown me this several times now.

    I am leaving as soon as I can. If you're a customer, I don't need to tell you anything; I know already that you think the same as me. If you're thinking of becoming a new customer, do not do it. I could not wish this terrible service on my worst enemy.

    And the story does not end there. I will be posting a fuller review soon. But do not waste your time with this incompetent company.

  • netomxnetomx Member, Moderator

    @upsetcvps said:
    If you are considering ChicagoVPS, RUN THE OTHER WAY. There are similarly-priced competitors who do not have the terrible service here. A few weeks ago:

    • Hacked and customer data revealed
    • Very slow to inform customers
    • When they did start informing customers, they contradicted themselves or flat out lied often.
    • Claimed to make back-ups after the last attack but turns out not all nodes have backups
    • They promised back-ups for me but then just inexplicably closed my ticket a few days later without providing any back-ups.
    • You can read more about it at vpsboard (but about 15 pages of records there mysteriously vanished). There's also a thread here at LET. I wish I had been keeping archives of both of these threads because posts have mysteriously gone missing on both sites.
    • Since they said everyone was restored my vps has gone down again and been unreachable on two more separate days! They don't reply to tickets when this happens until many hours later.

    I cannot understand how anyone can still recommend cvps. Even when I was considering them, I saw a few negative reviews and thought nothing of them. But I regret it. CVPS cannot provide the service they promise you. They promise "99.9% up-time guarantee; your site will always be online". But they cannot do it and they have shown me this several times now.

    I am leaving as soon as I can. If you're a customer, I don't need to tell you anything; I know already that you think the same as me. If you're thinking of becoming a new customer, do not do it. I could not wish this terrible service on my worst enemy.

    And the story does not end there. I will be posting a fuller review soon. But do not waste your time with this incompetent company.

    you agaaain?

  • @netomx said:
    you agaaain?

    Wish he was fucking banned already...

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  • why should I be banned? Am I breaking any rules? I thought this place was for sharing reviews and experiences with VPS providers. I'm sorry, but CVPS is scam company.

    Thanked by 1Jack
  • @Jack said:
    I agree with that but not the last part.

    Thank you, I respect your opinion. All I can is share my own experiences. It's up to the reader to evaluate them.

  • SpiritSpirit Disabled
    edited August 2013

    @upsetcvps said:
    why should I be banned? Am I breaking any rules? I thought this place was for sharing reviews and experiences with VPS providers.

    Just that you don't do this and you play your little crusade with repeating yourself all the time. You're annoying. And don't get me wrong, I am not talking here about ban and stuff... but solely about your appearance.
    You said once, you said twice... ok, but you keep repeating yourself, that's all what you do here and at some point you're not the one who share reviews and experience but the one who play silly private crusade all the time.
    All what you posted we saw already from you. Not once, not twice.. but all the time. And as such that's not contribution to anything here. Start contribute, talk about something else otherwise you will be nothing more than annoyance. And I am not talking about annoyance to CVPS but to all the rest of us who needs to read your yada, yada, yada... all the time.
    You're turning into stalking internet psycho. Get yourself together, man.

  • netomxnetomx Member, Moderator

    Thanks @Spirit , just what I thought and tried to say, but without my sarcasm hahaha

  • CVPS_ChrisCVPS_Chris Member, Provider

    $100 says hes a provider. Just saying.

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  • mawrmawr Member

    @upsetcvps said:

    I cannot understand how anyone can still recommend cvps. Even when I was considering them, I saw a few negative reviews and thought nothing of them. But I regret it. CVPS cannot provide the service they promise you. They promise "99.9% up-time guarantee; your site will always be online". But they cannot do it and they have shown me this several times now.

    I am leaving as soon as I can. If you're a customer, I don't need to tell you anything; I know already that you think the same as me. If you're thinking of becoming a new customer, do not do it. I could not wish this terrible service on my worst enemy.

    >

    As a current customer who is not entirely satisfied, what you stated is true but I disagree with your take.

    Though I can't say they are a highly reliable host, I must say their pricing is not "similarly-priced", as I have 2 ridiculously cheap VPSs with them, and 1 fair-priced one (with better performance). During the attack, I had one of the VPSs restored fully and another one restored to a backup from a month ago (which had client data in it). It was upsetting but it's a risk I took when I paid a very little amount.

    Though not the greatest, I'd say CVPS ranks relatively high on my bang to buck ratio list, and is a decent choice for legitimately low-end or unimportant VPSs.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator

    @Microlinux said:
    It's extremely annoying, Comcast is a pretty big eyeball. We've been routing around Cogent to Comcast for a while, things are getting worse and worse. I assume Cogent is holding out for a bigger settlement from Comcast . . .

    I'm really looking forward to Cogent being gone, too. There is value there, but it's not enough to make up for the problems that come with Cogent.

    Jon Biloh
  • My humble experience shows that he.net seems to cause more network troubles than Cogent lately. At least from my point of view.

    -

  • ChicagoVPS is good, but sometimes it can get slow.

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  • @jbiloh said:
    We do actually have plans to cancel Cogent at the end of our term in 2 months. Their network is OK but the problems with Comcast are too much to deal with.

    Chiming in on this, I appreciate it a ton. The Comcast - Cogent problems have been driving me crazy. At peak I can barely pull 1mbit single-stream.

    I ordered "bargain bin" dedicated server here last time they posted them. It was a bit of a rough setup, but I have been nothing but pleased with the ChicagoVPS support as well as the quality of CC Buffalo. The fact that they're dropping Cogent really does away with my only gripe, which isn't their fault at all (why is Cogent always the one wrapped up in these dumb pissing wars?).

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator

    @manacit said:
    Chiming in on this, I appreciate it a ton. The Comcast - Cogent problems have been driving me crazy. At peak I can barely pull 1mbit single-stream.

    I ordered "bargain bin" dedicated server here last time they posted them. It was a bit of a rough setup, but I have been nothing but pleased with the ChicagoVPS support as well as the quality of CC Buffalo. The fact that they're dropping Cogent really does away with my only gripe, which isn't their fault at all (why is Cogent always the one wrapped up in these dumb pissing wars?).

    I expect a lot of people will be happy to know Cogent is going away. We'd turn then off right away but we want to maintain a certain level of overall capacity in Buffalo so we need to wait for some additional circuits to be turned on by Telia.

    We actually have some other stuff cooking with other high quality carriers but I'm not ready to talk about it just yet. Details soon!

    Jon Biloh
  • @jbiloh i would advise against entirely turning off Cogent. They have a lot of customers and there is no better way to reach their customers than to use their own network. It's a better idea to just use their customers routes only instead of turn them off completely. I mean use only routes tagged with 174:21001 and 174:21101

    -

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator

    @rds100 said:
    jbiloh i would advise against entirely turning off Cogent. They have a lot of customers and there is no better way to reach their customers than to use their own network. It's a better idea to just use their customers routes only instead of turn them off completely. I mean use only routes tagged with 174:21001 and 174:21101

    This is a good suggestion, but our port carries with it a 10% CDR which means we pay for the bandwidth whether we use it or not. Our pure Cogent-Cogent traffic would be a lot lower than 10% of the port so we would be wasting resources.

    Once our contract is over with Cogent they may be willing to give us a no-commit port but its hard to say. Their story changes every week based on what their promos are and how bad their quarter is going.

    Jon Biloh
  • @jbiloh yes i've heard they started offerong zero commit 10G ports lately at good price per used Mbps (90th percentile or something), but i've no idea if they offer it everywhere.

    -

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator

    @rds100 said:
    jbiloh yes i've heard they started offerong zero commit 10G ports lately at good price per used Mbps (90th percentile or something), but i've no idea if they offer it everywhere.

    The common understanding industry wide is that Cogent will throw crazy promotions at you when you're not looking to buy but the moment you show any interest they reel back in and the pricing goes up.

    Jon Biloh
  • LeeLee Member

    @upsetcvps said:
    why should I be banned? Am I breaking any rules? I thought this place was for sharing reviews and experiences with VPS providers. I'm sorry, but CVPS is scam company.

    Nobody will prevent you from stating your opinion but sometimes it gets over stated and you have went beyond over stating and are now trolling as you have nothing new to say.

    If people search they will find all they need, good and bad about CVPS.

    It really sounds like a classic case of another buthurt soul that thought he never needed his own backups.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator

    @W1V_Lee said:
    It really sounds like a classic case of another buthurt soul that thought he never needed his own backups.

    I don't see any reason for Liam to ban @upsetcvps but I think it's probably best for both @upsetcvps and ChicagoVPS to find a friendly solution so no one is unhappy going forward.

    Jon Biloh
  • @W1V_Lee said:
    It really sounds like a classic case of another buthurt soul that thought he never needed his own backups.

    Nope, I make my own back-ups. That doesn't make the fact that CVPS lies about their back-ups any better though.

  • @jbiloh said:
    I don't see any reason for Liam to ban upsetcvps but I think it's probably best for both upsetcvps and ChicagoVPS to find a friendly solution so no one is unhappy going forward.

    Yes, if ChicagoVPS starts hiring competent people and being respectful of their customers, I would gladly stop. My only purpose in posting my experience is to warn others by making them aware of my experience.

  • @CVPS_Chris said:

    $100 says hes a provider. Just saying.

    Nope, just a typical CVPS customer. You've seen my complaint several times now. You've either given a vague reply not addressing my concerns or made some offhanded joke comment. Par for the course with CVPS I suppose.

  • @CVPS_Chris said:
    $100 says hes a provider. Just saying.

    My gut feeling as well, and it also obvious who.

  • LeeLee Member

    @upsetcvps said:
    Nope, I make my own back-ups. That doesn't make the fact that CVPS lies about their back-ups any better though.

    I am not defending CVPS but they are not the only ones that will lie to you, they just got caught.

  • @W1V_Lee said:
    I am not defending CVPS but they are not the only ones that will lie to you, they just got caught.

    It seems to be common that when something hits the fan backups mysteriously become corrupted, lost, inaccessible.

    A notable exception recently has been Ramnode (where backups were advertised and backups were delivered).

    I think if you advertised backups, these should be completed and tested on a regular basis.

  • CVPS_ChrisCVPS_Chris Member, Provider

    @W1V_Lee said:
    I am not defending CVPS but they are not the only ones that will lie to you, they just got caught.

    @ShardHost said:
    It seems to be common that when something hits the fan backups mysteriously become corrupted, lost, inaccessible.

    The fact you both are forgetting the fact where, the day of the breach, not only did they start to delete the nodes, they also got into FTP servers because Solus stores the passwords.

    Dont tell me that I lie about backups when more than 60% of the customers affected were restored. Yes it is unfortunate that this happened to the other 40% but I have no control over it.

    ColoCrossing.com - Premier Datacenter and Cloud Solutions for Business

  • LeeLee Member

    @CVPS_Chris - Oh sorry, because lying is not something you would do and therefore it is unreasonable to suggest it based on your sterling past.

  • RalliasRallias Member, Provider

    @jbiloh said:
    I expect a lot of people will be happy to know Cogent is going away.

    I'm sad TBH... I can't say much for Telia, but XO has been a pain in my groin more times than I can count.

  • @CVPS_Chris said:
    The fact you both are forgetting the fact where, the day of the breach, not only did they start to delete the nodes, they also got into FTP servers because Solus stores the passwords.

    Calm your panties. My message was not referring to you.

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