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Digital Ocean Moldova?

TuckerTucker Member
edited October 2017 in General

Saw this while looking up a list of DO ASNs..

"Digital Ocean LLC" registered in Moldova

https://bgpview.io/asn/AS205301

https://www.ripe.net/membership/indices/data/md.digital1.html (lol @ .eu.com)

Looks like he even registered a business in Moldova

http://www.bizzer.md/entitate/1245576/societatea-cu-răspundere-limitată-digital-ocean

person: Evgheni Hahlov address: Liviu Deleanu 1, ap.150 address: MD-2071 address: Chisinau address: MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF phone: +37368121800

DO operating out of an apartment complex in Chișinău? I guess times are hard.

Legal@DO should have a laugh with this

Comments

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited October 2017

    Entirely plausible, given our size now, that things occur which I do not need to be aware of. This makes me wonder though, is there any check for the validity of such a thing with RIPE? I dunno, not my particular expertise.

    Either way, I did reach out internally about this earlier today, just in case. Another LET member brought it to my attention.

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  • @jarland said:

    Entirely plausible, given our size now, that things occur which I do not need to be aware of. This makes me wonder though, is there any check for the validity of such a thing with RIPE? I dunno, not my particular expertise.

    Looks like all the legit DO RIPE stuff is managed by the 'digitalocean' maintainer and ORG-DOI2-RIPE org. Legit DO member listing

  • hostdarehostdare Member, Patron Provider

    not entire impossible , but they may have registered for ripe as an european business

  • Seems legit.

  • @hostdare said:
    not entire impossible , but they may have registered for ripe as an european business

    Moldova is not part of the EU

  • I might get something wrong here, but you said

    @hostdare said:
    have registered for ripe as an european business

    while i said Moldova is not part of the EU

  • hostdarehostdare Member, Patron Provider

    There are some European countries which is not in EU

    http://prntscr.com/h3v2e2

  • Europe is a continent, the EU is a political union. Two very different things!

    Thanked by 1tux
  • @jarland keep them coming!!

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    A new offering: DigitalOcean Offshore

    They just couldn't sit back and let @cociu own that market.

  • WSSWSS Member

    A virtual digital ocean of sisters?!

    Thanked by 2cociu ehab
  • WSS said: A virtual digital ocean of sisters?!

    have verry nice girls in moldova

  • WSSWSS Member

    @cociu said:

    WSS said: A virtual digital ocean of sisters?!

    have verry nice girls in moldova

    Do you have work for a technical director?

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited October 2017

    jarland said: This makes me wonder though, is there any check for the validity of such a thing with RIPE?

    Yes. Valid company documents.

    Your brand name is not protected and Moldova uses 'LLC'. Thus someone can create a "Digital Ocean LLC" in Moldova and obtain an ASN for it, this is absolutely not a RIPE thing to check as the company is valid.

    You have to follow Moldovan laws to stop this; RIPE is not in any way the correct contact point. RIPE issues ASNs to any company with valid company documents regardless of name conflicts or otherwise; this is the problem of national law there, nothing else.

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  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited October 2017

    lion said: Moldova is not part of the EU

    RIPE goes down until Israel and Iran. Not only EU. Moldova is inside the RIPE area.

    Thanked by 1lion
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    William said: Your brand name is not protected and Moldova uses 'LLC'. Thus someone can create a "Digital Ocean LLC" in Moldova and obtain an ASN for it, this is absolutely not a RIPE thing to check as the company is valid.

    Thanks man. Definitely interesting.

  • Notably RIPE has no real ability to check company documents - it is next to impossible to even verify the existence of an LTD in Costa Rica or Panama; and entirely so in Belize or the Seychelles.

    Ultimately this can end word against word, in which the neutrality of RIPE would probably mean either has to go to a Dutch court.

    So there is no need to assume, for now, that the documents are real, but it is also not likely that either side can provide definitive proof of their rights to the name (an US trademark is basically worth shit in Moldova, if not less).

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  • hostdarehostdare Member, Patron Provider
    edited October 2017

    William said: Seychelles

    SEYCHELLES is showing in African nic countries list .

    plus that company has listed /21 IPs only

  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    How were they able to get a second /22 unless they bought it from someone else?

  • WSS said: Do you have work for a technical director?

    to f----ck my sisters ? sorry nooooooooo

    Thanked by 2muratai bugrakoc
  • WSSWSS Member

    That, or unfuck your network. Both are available and ready.

  • ZappieZappie Member, Host Rep, LIR

    MikePT said: How were they able to get a second /22 unless they bought it from someone else?

    They have 3, and do so by opening up multiple RIPE accounts:

    https://bgpview.io/search/Digital Ocean LLC#results-v4

    Allocated 23rd Oct

    inetnum:         185.227.72.0 - 185.227.75.255
    netname:         MD-DIGITAL2-20171023
    country:         MD
    org:             ORG-DOL7-RIPE
    

    Allocated 13th Oct

    inetnum:         185.225.128.0 - 185.225.131.255
    netname:         MD-DIGITAL1-20171013
    country:         MD
    org:             ORG-DOL6-RIPE
    

    Allocated 26th Sept

    inetnum:         185.222.220.0 - 185.222.223.255
    netname:         MD-DIGITAL-20170926
    country:         MD
    org:             ORG-DOL5-RIPE
    
  • hostdare said: SEYCHELLES is showing in African nic countries list .

    Any company can obtain a RIPE ASN regardless of where it is incorporated.

    MikePT said: How were they able to get a second /22 unless they bought it from someone else?

    Multiple LIRs.

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