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VolumeDrive aka Quadix Finally Disabled On WHT

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  • @Nekki said:

    @rds100 said:
    Who wants to bet $7 that they will be back in less than a month under a different name?

    Isn’t detecting that Jarland’s specialist subject?

  • 16k ips is half there ASN....

    Secondly, you can null there asn on your servers.. Which might be a good idea as by my guess they will be selling to anyone in a moment to try and recover what is likely to be a huge fee.

    Third, if you have a server with them. You should likely get out. My guess is they will abandon the operation shortly like they have done before. Leaving your equipment stolen, left, or worse. Make backups -now- and not later.

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    If you check the ASN there's some large clients announcing space there. If you check their ARIN account they only have ~12k IP's assigned to them.

    Do they allocate a /32 per client or a /29?

    Francisco

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    People don't generally learn from their mistakes.

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  • AlyssaDAlyssaD Member
    edited September 2017

    @Francisco said:

    If you check the ASN there's some large clients announcing space there. If you check their ARIN account they only have ~12k IP's assigned to them.

    Do they allocate a /32 per client or a /29?

    Francisco

    Maybe so, that is the problem with ASN announcements. They can come from many different people / companies. None the less, to say that half there allocation was for one customer randomly is hugely suspicious. That being if you are on the side of believing them (vd).

    I'd assume they give each client a /29. Most companies do.

    Damn, @Francisco you have been busy. 50k IPv4 announced by your ASN.

  • @Francisco said:

    If you check the ASN there's some large clients announcing space there. If you check their ARIN account they only have ~12k IP's assigned to them.

    Do they allocate a /32 per client or a /29?

    Francisco

    Neither from my experience. Shared larger subnets is what I saw in the past on my machines. (/27 was the smallest)

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    It's too bad because at least from this angle, they were always very friendly and accommodating as a provider. I always had hopes that they would clean up their act a bit under the new name, sort of a chance to be something better.

    Sometimes my faith in people is misguided.

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  • Sounds like they really needed those 20K for a brief momento so they delayed the refund a bit until the customer patience ran out. I understand the customer... is 20K but how do you type and confirm that wrong in paypal's ux ? Certainly he wasn't paying attention.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited September 2017

    @Hxxx said:
    Sounds like they really needed those 20K for a brief momento so they delayed the refund a bit until the customer patience ran out. I understand the customer... is 20K but how do you type and confirm that wrong in paypal's ux ? Certainly he wasn't paying attention.

    Yeah I mean that typo is a big deal. That invoice is the difference, to me, between "customer made mistake and has to wait for it to be resolved" and "provider pulled a super shitty move/scam." I mean one piece that draws it all together.

    In the interest of being devil's advocate I've taken another look at the invoice picture. The easiest way to fake it, if they had:

    Replace quadix.co in host file, run web server, put PDF in folder, open in browser.

    The reason this is the easiest is that it's not photoshopped. I'm quite confident in that. The degree of work done to photoshop this, to a degree that I couldn't spot it, would take dramatically more time than the web server / host file.

    Problems with the web server / host file theory? Customer lacks attention to detail to not make such a dramatic mistake on payment, and either lacks understanding of how to screenshot properly, or has taken it a step further to intentionally take a bad photo specifically to imply a lack of technical expertise in order to throw off any scent of fraudulent action on their part. One lends weight to legitimacy of screenshot, the other is inconsistent with their lack of attention to detail.

    So while the invoice is absolutely the KEY detail here, the thing that defines the entire scenario, let it be said that "They faked that invoice" will not be an argument that Quadix can use easily.

  • Why are you playing devil's advocate for a company which is known to have Shady practices in the past?

  • jackbjackb Member, Host Rep

    @WSS said:
    Why are you playing devil's advocate for a company which is known to have Shady practices in the past?

    I'd almost bet the refund bounces and neither the customer, wht or let ever hear from volumedrive again

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @WSS said:
    Why are you playing devil's advocate for a company which is known to have Shady practices in the past?

    How can one be prepared for their potential future defenses to try to get unbanned everywhere if not viewing the angle from all potential sides or likely claims? Never let your opinion of someone be what drives your conclusion, or you won't be prepared to objectively answer for your conclusion.

  • @jarland said:
    How can one be prepared for their potential future defenses to try to get unbanned everywhere if not viewing the angle from all potential sides or likely claims? Never let your opinion of someone be what drives your conclusion, or you won't be prepared to objectively answer for your conclusion.

    Because they are pretty much all but proven to be shitsuckers? This ideology is neat in a world of Disney, but when has trying to be overly objective actually resulted in something which was in the favor of that device?

  • MasonRMasonR Community Contributor
    edited September 2017

    @jarland said:

    @WSS said:
    Why are you playing devil's advocate for a company which is known to have Shady practices in the past?

    How can one be prepared for their potential future defenses to try to get unbanned everywhere if not viewing the angle from all potential sides or likely claims? Never let your opinion of someone be what drives your conclusion, or you won't be prepared to objectively answer for your conclusion.

    I think the fact that they did not reply at all in the WHT thread in regards to the fake invoice is in itself an admission of guilt. Had they denied ever seeing it and said it was never done on their end may have opened some doubts to it being a faked invoice produced by them.

    That and the whole "here's a free year of service, let's sweep all this under the rug, shall we?"

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  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited September 2017

    @WSS said:

    @jarland said:
    How can one be prepared for their potential future defenses to try to get unbanned everywhere if not viewing the angle from all potential sides or likely claims? Never let your opinion of someone be what drives your conclusion, or you won't be prepared to objectively answer for your conclusion.

    Because they are pretty much all but proven to be shitsuckers? This ideology is neat in a world of Disney, but when has trying to be overly objective actually resulted in something which was in the favor of that device?

    Going to great lengths to be objective is of high importance for my role in this community, and it is what has been asked of me many many times.

    Edit: you do realize that me playing devil's advocate improved my case against them and for their continued ban, right? ;)

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  • all my servers are down with quadix for last 2hrs.

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    @vpsguy said:
    all my servers are down with quadix for last 2hrs.

    But I guess you took backups and knew this would happen and had already started plans to migrate elsewhere already though right?

  • vpsguyvpsguy Member
    edited September 2017

    @AnthonySmith said:

    @vpsguy said:
    all my servers are down with quadix for last 2hrs.

    But I guess you took backups and knew this would happen and had already started plans to migrate elsewhere already though right?

    to be honest i didnt expect this to happen since i didnt know much about them at time of purchase. but i have backups iam actively looking to restore backups on new servers. but their website is working fine..so far ive been happy with them until i read the wht thread/.

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    vpsguy said: to be honest i didnt expect this to happen since i didnt know much about them at time of purchase. but i have backups iam actively looking to restore backups on new servers. but their website is working fine..so far ive been happy with them until i read the wht thread/.

    That's unfortunate, I feel for you, they have been known to be like this for about 7 years though now.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    Yes I completely agree with @jarland in banning volume drive / quadix.

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  • And the fishing beginnt :)

  • Refugee offers?

  • mikhomikho Member, Host Rep

    @AlyssaD said:
    Refugee offers?

    What are you looking for?

  • @AlyssaD nobody use volumedrive here. No need for offers :)

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  • jarland said: Never let your opinion of someone be what drives your conclusion, or you won't be prepared to objectively answer for your conclusion.

    Spoken like a true admin. Kudos sir!

  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    @ramesh_vish said:

    jarland said: Spoken like a true admin. Kudos sir!

    Kudos doesnt bring Red Bull to the table, man. #justsayin

  • MattKCMattKC Member
    edited September 2017

    Todays the day paypal said the refund was pending through, doubt anyone would be surprised if it failed. Beyond the doctored invoice, the fact they removed the errant funds to their own account is another sign of intent. Given the number of disputes/chargebacks they have had (judging by the frequent threads on wht and elsewhere) i'm surprised Paypal didn't freeze that transaction as soon as it came through.

    Edit - looks like it moved to tomorrow now

  • jackbjackb Member, Host Rep
    edited September 2017

    @jackb said:

    @WSS said:
    Why are you playing devil's advocate for a company which is known to have Shady practices in the past?

    I'd almost bet the refund bounces and neither the customer, wht or let ever hear from volumedrive again

    Called it. I'd suggest anyone with volumedrive/quadix services consider their position - this is not going to end well. Either they up and leave taking your kit with them, or op from the wht thread will likely start kicking up a storm legally. Neither is any good for volumedrive/quadix customers.

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