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VolumeDrive aka Quadix Finally Disabled On WHT

VolumeDrive aka Quadix Finally Disabled On WHT

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  • Read through that thread last night. Glad the OP got his money back. At least there's some justice in the world and I genuinely hope quadix/volumedrive take a huge hit in sales because of it.

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  • @MasonR said: Read through that thread last night. Glad the OP got his money back. At least there's some justice in the world and I genuinely hope quadix/volumedrive take a huge hit in sales because of it.

    afaik the op did not get the money yet, the paypal refund is 'pending'

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    @Pandy said:

    @MasonR said: Read through that thread last night. Glad the OP got his money back. At least there's some justice in the world and I genuinely hope quadix/volumedrive take a huge hit in sales because of it.

    afaik the op did not get the money yet, the paypal refund is 'pending'

    Likely already transferred the funds to their bank account.

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  • jvnadrjvnadr Member
    edited September 9

    It's not that simple... I read mot-a-mot the WHT thread. First of all, OP did an extremely stupid mistake: he paid $20K instead of $200. Paypal has three stages in confirm button until the money goes out. He should be more careful. He opened a dispute before trying to solve the issue with his provider.
    Of course, Quadix owners did not handle this properly at all! Did they want to keep the money? I doubt because if they really did, then, they are extremely stupid. They would lose the case in any court and they would be arrested for fraud. Not to mention that the bad publicity could (can) kill entirely their business. And they are not new in the market...
    But they should work much better and faster to resolve the issue. And some of their responses in their mails, are... What to say? Crappy...

    You should think something similar when paying a corp thru a bank account: Let's say, I pay an LTD with accounting dptm., lot;s of employees and a Board of Directors. I did a mistake and overpaid x100 what should I pay to them. Returning of the money is not that simple. If an employ or, even the chief of accounting dpt. just give an order the money to be returned, he would committed a corporate crime. There is a standart procedure to validate the error and return the money, in real companies. It;s not just the press of a button in a web browser.

    Just my 2 cents

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  • @ViolentInjection said: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1669963

    WHT finally disabled the scammer.

    scammer, all of his execuse didn't make any sense. I suspect they will create another company to sell on WHT

  • I've had someone pay me with "two extra 0's at the end" & I sure as hell didn't keep the money.

    Not sure where VolumeDrive is located, but spending money that you know isn't yours is usually a criminal offence.

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  • Finally... ;-)

  • @jvnadr said: Did they want to keep the money? I doubt because if they really did, then, they are extremely stupid.

    • Said they were working on getting him a refund, waiting for funds to clear - then stop responding after this
    • Doctored the original invoice (poorly) to reflect the exact amount paid. With silly line items claiming to lease him more IP space than they even control (as noted by @Francisco)
    • Responded to the Paypal dispute with said doctored invoice, win dispute
    • Shit blows up on WHT and they get outed as trying to scam this guy
    • Immediately backpedal and come up with some poor excuses
    • Finally start the refund process... and the funds aren't available in their account for an immediate refund (meaning they already pulled out the money and don't have $20k in their Paypal that's waiting to clear)

    They wanted to keep the money, they fall into the 'extremely stupid' category.

    If you're doing business with them, get the fuck outta there ASAP. A (probably big) source of new clients was just cut off with their account being disabled.

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  • I'm, I'm ... speechless ... now THAT is fraud! 16,000 IPs for one server how can this be real... fuck them.

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    plus bandwidth allocation 20 gbps lol

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  • @FredQc said:

    I'm, I'm ... speechless ... now THAT is fraud! 16,000 IPs for one server how can this be real... fuck them.

    Note the shit attempt to doctor the billing periods for all those items they added (see the date range for first item on list vs the rest)

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  • hostdarehostdare Member, Provider

    they are trying to show that customer added those items to single server for running month only

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  • RizRiz Member
    edited September 9

    It disgusts me that they tried to pull this crap - especially when the guy has been a valid customer for a good amount of time.

    The amount of unanswered responses dodging the question is great. There is no ownership, or even attempt to explain.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    @Harambe said:

    @FredQc said:

    I'm, I'm ... speechless ... now THAT is fraud! 16,000 IPs for one server how can this be real... fuck them.

    Note the shit attempt to doctor the billing periods for all those items they added (see the date range for first item on list vs the rest)

    The line items don't even match the same formatting/spelling.

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  • Jesus that’s disgraceful - surely that warrants a ban from LET too?

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    @Nekki said: Jesus that’s disgraceful - surely that warrants a ban from LET too?

    I called @jbiloh on it in the cest pit based on his own words. I'd hope so - https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/2384276/#Comment_2384276

  • @Riz said:

    @Nekki said: Jesus that’s disgraceful - surely that warrants a ban from LET too?

    I called @jbiloh on it in the cest pit based on his own words. I'd hope so - https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/2384276/#Comment_2384276

    Why would you ask Jon? @Jarland runs LET.

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  • Yeah, VD/Quadix have always been shady. Plenty of proof around. They do deserve to be banned. Such assholes.

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  • WHTWHT Member

    Scary thing. He must have millions in his paypal to make such a mistake. When I send $5 I check it 10 time not to send $6.

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    Karma

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited September 9

    What did you guys expect anyway? Its the same company that ran off from one datacenter without paying bills and stole customers colocated hardware in the progress? Even this one server in the case could be stolen hardware for all we know.

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Provider

    @stefeman said: What did you guys expect anyway? Its the same company that ran off from one datacenter without paying bills and stole customers colocated hardware in the progress? Even this one server in the case could be stolen hardware for all we know.

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  • I'm just amazed they weren't banned before for that incident few years back.

  • shameful of them...

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    Amazing that they seemed to think they'd get away with it. Talk about ballsy!

  • @jvnadr said: He opened a dispute before trying to solve the issue with his provider.

    He informed them about the mistake and had no reply for nearly a week before proceeding to open a dispute on PayPal. The invoice was on the 15th of August, dispute opened on the 22nd of August.

    The worst part is that this may not be over yet. Until he has the funds and it's not in a pending state then this is still ongoing. I agree it was a stupid mistake on his behalf.

    Even with banning them they're cheap enough that people will ignore all the shady things they've done and continue purchasing from them.

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    IThinkUFailed said: Even with banning them they're cheap enough that people will ignore all the shady things they've done and continue purchasing from them.

    VD is a popular host for DDOS since they "forget" to block spoofing.

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  • @Francisco said:

    IThinkUFailed said: Even with banning them they're cheap enough that people will ignore all the shady things they've done and continue purchasing from them.

    VD is a popular host for DDOS since they "forget" to block spoofing.

    Francisco

    Yeah, I've heard that too.

  • From an accounting point of view i can see the refund taking a while. I never worked for a company that would refund thst amount without the funds clearing and being in their accounts.

    Have I mentioned how much I hate auto correct recently?

  • lazyt said: From an accounting point of view i can see the refund taking a while. I never worked for a company that would refund thst amount without the funds clearing and being in their accounts.

    Has any company you ever worked for doctored an invoice to keep an accidental overpayment? From an accounting point of view that is fraud.

  • JSCLJSCL Member, Provider

    Reading and participating in that thread - lots of shadiness that could be explained or fluffed away. But that invoice... that's the nail in the coffin. That shows really what that business is about - defrauding customers.

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  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Provider
    edited September 9

    I think it was around 7 years ago I publicly proved they were dishonest and lying to customers, then they skipped out on burstnet avoiding HUGE bills, also very public and probably contributed to burst net's eventual bankruptcy.

    They continued to provide seriously sub standard service and showed time without number that they were not really interested in customers once they had their money.

    Yet people still continued to buy because it was cheap, I have no doubt people will still buy from them even after this, and people will still complain about the quality, and then people will again continue to buy.

    This will be nothing but a blip for them, they will rebrand and keep doing what they have always done.

    I assume all the people that read this thread and agree that they are very wrong for doing this will continue paying them anyway rather than cancel on principle.

    This is the low end market, they are amongst the worst of it which is why they will probably always prosper.

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  • lazytlazyt Member
    edited September 9

    Sigh reading comprehension is truely a lost art.

    Nothing in my post is in reference to any of the events mentioned. Other then saying most companies have accountants that will not cut a check or voucher for an amount of money that is not yet showing as being received by the company.

    As for VD I thought they had already crashed and burned.

    Have I mentioned how much I hate auto correct recently?

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  • @lazyt said: Other then saying most companies have accountants that will not cut a check or voucher for an amount of money that is not yet showing as being received by the company.

    You can refund Paypal without having those funds in your bank account, just hit the refund button in Paypal and Paypal reverts the transaction and even does not charge you any processing fee for the original transaction.

    It would have been easy to refund.

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  • Paypal the company that refuses to remove an bank account my ex closed three years ago. Plus keeps trying to take money from the closed account?

    Have I mentioned how much I hate auto correct recently?

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  • And what is their reason for the fake invoice ?

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  • @yokowasis said: And what is their reason for the fake invoice ?

    "What fake invoice?"

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    @yokowasis said: And what is their reason for the fake invoice?

    It was so weak that it nearly didn't exist. "Oh we bound a ton of stuff together and didn't know it'd do something that there's no ability for it to do oops sorry how about a year of free service lol?"

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  • WSS said: "Oh we bound a ton of stuff together and didn't know it'd do something that there's no ability for it to do oops sorry how about a year of free service lol?"

    That sums it up pretty well.

  • Damn.........

  • FredQc said: I'm, I'm ... speechless ... now THAT is fraud! 16,000 IPs for one server how can this be real... fuck them.

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  • Don't give the shoe guys ideas! Please just don't.

    Never thought much of vd even before the Burst fiasco.

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  • @stefeman said: What did you guys expect anyway? Its the same company that ran off from one datacenter without paying bills and stole customers colocated hardware in the progress? Even this one server in the case could be stolen hardware for all we know.

    Can someone just steal hardware from a datacenter? I mean customer colocating there can also access - shutdown or do other shit with other customer's hardware?

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    @jetchirag said: Can someone just steal hardware from a datacenter? I mean customer colocating there can also access - shutdown or do other shit with other customer's hardware?

    Who do they think they are, stealing Prout's niche!?

  • @WSS said:

    @jetchirag said: Can someone just steal hardware from a datacenter? I mean customer colocating there can also access - shutdown or do other shit with other customer's hardware?

    Who do they think they are, stealing Prout's niche!?

    I actually meant can they access other hardware or there are some locks on racks etc?

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  • WSSWSS Member

    @jetchirag said: Can someone just steal hardware from a datacenter? I mean customer colocating there can also access - shutdown or do other shit with other customer's hardware?

    That depends on the DC. Some are "open", meaning that everyone has access to ethernet and power. Telco racks are common for this. Generally, all removed hardware needs to be signed for, though.

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  • jiggawattzjiggawattz Member
    edited September 10

    lazyt said:

    Nothing in my post is in reference to any of the events mentioned.

    So your post is completely off-topic then? Why is it even in this thread? You realize we are talking about VolumeDrive/Quadix fraud right? There is no defense of what they did.

    Sigh reading comprehension is truely a lost art.

    Indeed that's something you could probably develop better for yourself.

  • It would be awesome to see actual prosecution for fraudulent activities. Falsification of invoice, false statements to avoid PayPal chargeback.

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  • OK

    1. VD + Fraud anyone that has been around for a while will probably agree with that.
    2. The nothing in my post comment was referring to your assumption that I was defending them and you bringing out the invoice as proof of your point. See 1. for the fact we both agree n this.
    3. I merely commented that of all the things against them I can see a delay before refunding to keep the bean counters happy.

    Have I mentioned how much I hate auto correct recently?

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