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Anyone use Server4you?

Anyone use Server4you?

cwebmecwebme Member

Any review about Server4you? Has interest price.

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  • I would advise to pick providers that are active here if you want to search for a vps here.

    But server4you idk I don't know them

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  • modrowmodrow Member

    had a VPS there a couple years ago. It was horrible. They are now a part of HostEurope and that could have improved their service

    Berlin, Germany

  • qtwrkqtwrk Member

    I once had same doubt as you do, and I did some searching, also post here asking around. But thing is they have bad reputation here, and presume extremely oversold to have that specs and price.

    If you looking for DE provider for VPS, I suggest netcup

  • I used them for many years and their support was vary varied. I had servers in both locations they had at the time and would certainly not recommend their US location, unless that's changed.

    In most cases they were very forthcoming and helpful, ranging from things like free months for a four hour interruption to free setup for late server delivery (four days instead of 24h). However, the best experience I ever had with them was a hardware failure on Christmas eve. Drive died, was replaced, restored from backup. 3 hours. Was impressed.

  • mkshmksh Member

    Be sure to scrunitize their site for fineprint. I have not looked at them in ages but i still remember the bad taste their trap like offers left me with. Maybe they changed but i'd still rather avoid them.

  • jarlandjarland Administrator

    Use them, I'm a fan. Have two dedis and two VPS. Great performance and uptime. Haven't needed their support so clueless on that.

    I'm using A2Hosting right now for shared, love it. Referral link.

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  • @jarland said: Use them, I'm a fan. Have two dedis and two VPS. Great performance and uptime. Haven't needed their support so clueless on that.

    Thanks for sharing. If I buy a server or vps from them I will not need support. And the nice thing about them is that Plesk/Onyx control panel is included for free!

    So for me the important thing is performance and uptime. Can anyone share any benchmarks?

  • boerndboernd Member

    Keep in mind that they have no IPv6

  • 36062023606202 Member

    jarland said: Use them, I'm a fan. Have two dedis and two VPS. Great performance and uptime. Haven't needed their support so clueless on that.

    Interesting! You are a client since... when? It's well possible that they have improved after the HostEurope takeover, but they were absolutely horrible around 3 years ago.

  • jarlandjarland Administrator

    @3606202 said:

    jarland said: Use them, I'm a fan. Have two dedis and two VPS. Great performance and uptime. Haven't needed their support so clueless on that.

    Interesting! You are a client since... when? It's well possible that they have improved after the HostEurope takeover, but they were absolutely horrible around 3 years ago.

    On Aug 20 it'll be exactly 4 months. Not so long that I can say they're hands down the best, but long enough that they can't be anything close to the most incompetent I've come across ;)

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  • 36062023606202 Member

    So they obviously improved. Good to know - they would have been my very last choice, based on my past experience.

  • southysouthy Member

    Be very careful about whats included and what not, e.g. What size the Plesk license is as this seems relevant to you. I haven't been paying attention to them for years but in earlier times they always had stuff cost extra unexpectedly. Which is why I never went there.

  • ShazanShazan Member

    @jarland said: Use them, I'm a fan. Have two dedis and two VPS. Great performance and uptime. Haven't needed their support so clueless on that.

    @jarland, are their VPS based on KVM or OVZ?

  • @Shazan said:

    @jarland said: Use them, I'm a fan. Have two dedis and two VPS. Great performance and uptime. Haven't needed their support so clueless on that.

    @jarland, are their VPS based on KVM or OVZ?

    OpenVZ. I have a few with them too.

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  • Can anyone with a VPS there, share a speed bench? Want to see how their network performs before buy. Thanks!

  • fLoofLoo Member

    I'm from germany, home country of s4u. Noone likes them over here. Absolutely ridiculous bad customer service, only 1 IP per server, no extra ips, VPS has super bad IOPs and are highly limited in every aspect.

    I highly suggest you to NOT go with s4u and choose netcup instead!

  • FalzoFalzo Member

    @fLoo said: I'm from germany, home country of s4u. Noone likes them over here. Absolutely ridiculous bad customer service, only 1 IP per server, no extra ips, VPS has super bad IOPs and are highly limited in every aspect.

    I highly suggest you to NOT go with s4u and choose netcup instead!

    you might want to consider that after a change in ownership (it's hosteurope now) things hopefully have changed. I know they have a long history of being called out for bad service and such and it most likely is very hard to get over that odd reputation anyways.

    yet one should be fair to give the new owners a chance to make things better by not only relying on the same old news over and over ;-)

    that said, I'd be interested in fresh reviews/benchmarks too.

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  • RazzaRazza Member
    edited August 11

    Falzo said: that said, I'd be interested in fresh reviews/benchmarks too.

    Here a benchmark just for you.

    -------------------------------------------------
     nench.sh v2017.06.01 -- https://git.io/nench.sh
     benchmark timestamp:    2017-08-11 12:43:10 UTC
    -------------------------------------------------
    
    Processor:    Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5520  @ 2.27GHz
    CPU cores:    2
    Frequency:    2266.646 MHz
    RAM:          4.0G
    Swap:         
    Kernel:       Linux 3.10.0-042stab120.20 x86_64
    
    Disks:
    ploop59006p1    100G  HDD
    
    CPU: SHA256-hashing 500 MB
        4.428 seconds
    CPU: bzip2-compressing 500 MB
        9.769 seconds
    CPU: AES-encrypting 500 MB
        4.022 seconds
    
    ioping: seek rate
        min/avg/max/mdev = 72.0 us / 651.3 us / 4.76 ms / 550.0 us
    ioping: sequential read speed
        generated 1.66 k requests in 5.00 s, 415.2 MiB, 332 iops, 83.0 MiB/s
    
    dd: sequential write speed
        1st run:    522.61 MiB/s
        2nd run:    473.02 MiB/s
        3rd run:    507.35 MiB/s
        average:    501.00 MiB/s
    
    IPv4 speedtests
        your IPv4:    188.138.61.xxxx
    
        Cachefly CDN:         87.14 MiB/s
        Leaseweb (NL):        34.92 MiB/s
        Softlayer DAL (US):   5.77 MiB/s
        Online.net (FR):      67.73 MiB/s
        OVH BHS (CA):         10.35 MiB/s
    
    No IPv6 connectivity detected
    -------------------------------------------------
    

    Geekbench https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3672432

    Didn't know you can still get vps with a 8 years old E5520 as the cpu.

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  • ShazanShazan Member

    @Razza said: Didn't know you can still get vps with a 8 years old E5520 as the cpu.

    Doesn't look bad anyway, IO and network seem very good.

  • jarlandjarland Administrator
    edited August 11

    Here's a bench.sh run from the VPS that I'm using to develop MXroute's in-house control panel ;)

    System Info
    -----------
    Processor   : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5520  @ 2.27GHz
    CPU Cores   : 2
    Frequency   : 2266.823 MHz
    Memory      : 4096 MB
    Swap        :  MB
    Uptime      : 54 days, 4:51,
    Arch        : x86_64 (64 Bit)
    Kernel      : 3.10.0-042stab123.1
    
    Speedtest (IPv4 only)
    ---------------------
    
    Location        Provider    Speed
    CDN         Cachefly    77.0MB/s
    
    Dallas, TX, US      Softlayer   58.7MB/s
    Seattle, WA, US     Softlayer   28.7MB/s
    San Jose, CA, US    Softlayer   29.2MB/s
    Washington, DC, US  Softlayer   6.55MB/s
    
    Tokyo, Japan        Linode      10.3MB/s
    Singapore       Softlayer   6.97MB/s
    
    Rotterdam, Netherlands  id3.net     4.61MB/s
    Haarlem, Netherlands    Leaseweb    60.8MB/s
    
    
    Disk Speed
    ----------
    I/O (1st run)   : 516 MB/s
    I/O (2nd run)   : 542 MB/s
    I/O (3rd run)   : 511 MB/s
    Average I/O : 523 MB/s

    It is OpenVZ because I see /proc/vz and venet.

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  • bsdguybsdguy Member

    I had multiple dedis with s4y but years ago (10 years or so) and my experiences were quite positive.

    Explanation: a) I don't need much support b) s4y was (at least then) the place to get cheap dedis with reasonable resources. I remember them being usually about 1/3 cheaper than competitors (at roughly the same quality/service).

    From what I read here I guess that there was a bad phase of some years between then and now.

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  • jarland said: Here's a bench.sh run from the VPS that I'm using to develop MXroute's in-house control panel ;)

    On their website says that all VPSs are limited to a 100Mbps network. So how can you get that kind of numbers? It seems a 1Gbps connection.

  • IshaqIshaq Member, Provider

    @jarland said: It is OpenVZ because I see /proc/vz and venet.

    Must be OpenVZ 7 then because it's running on kernel 3.10

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  • cwebmecwebme Member

    thank you all for your review...but there is someone now is client? Not only review years, and years ago.

  • cwebme said: but there is someone now is client? Not only review years, and years ago.

    @jarland is (see above) and he seems happy.

  • jarlandjarland Administrator

    Just had to use their support for the first time so thought I'd share. Dedicated server was down, not sure why. I don't really care why, it's not an important server right now and I told them as much.

    Ticket opened: Aug 14, 2017 6:58:47 PM
    Resolved: Aug 14, 2017 8:38:02 PM

    No complaints about that.

    I'm using A2Hosting right now for shared, love it. Referral link.

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  • That's indeed nothing to complain about!

  • MalinMalin Member

    Had a dedicated server with them a couple years back and one of the drives in the RAID was bad. Asked them to clone the matrix for the RAID and replace the HDD in order for the server to work normally, but they refused asking me to take out all my data from the server so that they can replace the HDD's with empty ones and then I was supposed to reinstall/reconfigure everything over again so I moved away from them since it was not something I was keen on doing. If I take the data out, I might as well find a better provider with not so cheap and lousy hardware right? Anyways, I read above that they are now part of HostEurope and HostEurope became part of GoDaddy earlier this year so it sounds like things got worse, attitude wise.

  • HxxxHxxx Member

    The cloning part was your job tho @Malin .

    Next time pay maybe the triple for a managed provider :)

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  • @jarland Screenshots in the cesspool or it didn't happen!

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  • jarland said: Here's a bench.sh run from the VPS that I'm using to develop MXroute's in-house control panel ;)

    which lang?

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  • pikepike Member

    I had a dedicated server with them 7 years ago, had to change the provider because of ddos attacks (back then s4u nullrouted every IP for 24h on smallest incoming ddos). During the years we had two drives fail (both were replaced nearly immediate).

  • JamesKJamesK Member

    I have checked compared its dedicated server price to other hosting providers then it is very low compared to them. As I compared the price, I can say that server4you is giving market low price for dedicated servers.

  • fLoofLoo Member

    @JamesK said: I have checked compared its dedicated server price to other hosting providers then it is very low compared to them. As I compared the price, I can say that server4you is giving market low price for dedicated servers.

    They are not. Compare the quality of the hardware again please. They offer low prices for low end hardware components, even the harddrives are the cheapest on the market.

  • MalinMalin Member

    @Hxxx said: The cloning part was your job tho @Malin .

    Next time pay maybe the triple for a managed provider :)

    There was no such thing in their ToS and it wasn't about the money, they specifically asked me to take out everything as they would replace the HDD's, they didn't ask for money either to do the job. All they wanted was to get rid of the problem after being proven so wrong technically. So they didn't want to do anything, not even paid. It was not managed or anything, still other providers do the clone when it's their lame hardware to be blamed.

  • ShazanShazan Member

    @Malin said:

    @Hxxx said: The cloning part was your job tho @Malin .

    Next time pay maybe the triple for a managed provider :)

    There was no such thing in their ToS and it wasn't about the money, they specifically asked me to take out everything as they would replace the HDD's, they didn't ask for money either to do the job. All they wanted was to get rid of the problem after being proven so wrong technically. So they didn't want to do anything, not even paid. It was not managed or anything, still other providers do the clone when it's their lame hardware to be blamed.

    It is always your duty, unless the server is managed, to clone/rebuild your RAID array when a disk is replaced, and an hard drive WILL fail soon or later, lame or not. Unmanaged providers NEVER touch your data, even if you're willing to pay them. I would never expect them to clone my data, paid or free, and it is a good advise from them to backup your data before replacing the drive. It is not their responsibility to keep your data safe, it is yours.

  • jarlandjarland Administrator
    edited August 22

    Revised review:

    Cancelled all services. Got a server with an IP that had been previously used for torrenting. Received DMCA notices roughly every 1-2 hours of every day since it was provisioned. You have X amount of hours to respond to each and every complaint or they shut off the server. After responding to about 80 of them I gave up. I have other things to do with my life besides deal with that. Opened a ticket to cancel server but no response in 5 days, and server is now disabled since I stopped responding to the DMCA notices.

    All in all it's a pretty edge case I realize, and it's probably not a reason to stay away if you like what they offer, which I do. I just don't have time to deal with it, and I don't have to elsewhere. The inconvenience exceeded the value.

    I'm using A2Hosting right now for shared, love it. Referral link.

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  • AidanAidan Member

    jarland said: Got a server with an IP that had been previously used for torrenting. Received DMCA notices roughly every 1-2 hours of every day since it was provisioned.

    I'm sorry, but... Are they that incompetent that they don't realise that the timestamps on the reports are from before the server was provisioned to you?

  • @Aidan said:

    jarland said: Got a server with an IP that had been previously used for torrenting. Received DMCA notices roughly every 1-2 hours of every day since it was provisioned.

    I'm sorry, but... Are they that incompetent that they don't realise that the timestamps on the reports are from before the server was provisioned to you?

    It's probably automated.

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  • jarlandjarland Administrator

    Aidan said: I'm sorry, but... Are they that incompetent that they don't realise that the timestamps on the reports are from before the server was provisioned to you?

    It was definitely automated, and I didn't see date/time stamps in the DMCA notices.

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  • HxxxHxxx Member

    @jarland Make sure they dont attribute those DMCA to you, legally.

  • jarlandjarland Administrator

    @Hxxx said: @jarland Make sure they dont attribute those DMCA to you, legally.

    Not much they can do really. They'd have to sue me or the host to go any further. Makes things better that the host installed the OS and gave me access, to which I merely logged in, updated packages and access rights, and logged out. All pretty well verifiable by my records.

    I'm using A2Hosting right now for shared, love it. Referral link.

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  • JamesKJamesK Member

    @fLoo said:

    @JamesK said: I have checked compared its dedicated server price to other hosting providers then it is very low compared to them. As I compared the price, I can say that server4you is giving market low price for dedicated servers.

    They are not. Compare the quality of the hardware again please. They offer low prices for low end hardware components, even the harddrives are the cheapest on the market.

    You are right. Thank you for pointing out my attention.

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