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Telegram is NOT the answer at least.
Is there a way to use Signal without the phone number for auto-discovery? (haven't checked in years)
May I ask you why telegram is not the answer? They claim to have servers in EU and awesome encryption...
Add : Tried using Signal, but since I don't have a simcard on my phone, I cannot go through their verification process...
If something is vulnerable to '$5 wrench attacks', avoid it
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/538:_Security
So there's no security problems seen in technical/political view?
Signal would have been your best bet. You can try Wire though.
This seem to be the thing i've been looking for. Thanks!
Their "web" version is entirely down atm, this is ridiculous.
This wasn't just me... And they don't support proxy inside the Android app...
But still, I really need the email login feature so this seems to be my only choice
The answer is probably XMPP/Jabber.. Conversations for Android and many Clients for all OSs.. Use OMEMO.
Telegram isn't end to end encryption in general. It's a bit misleading. Signal is probably your best bet - it's Schneier's choice.
What would be a better choice? XMPP or Matrix?
Jabber, Wickr, Matrix
+1 for Signal. Both client and server-side code is open-source, any crypto-guru can check it. And it does not record anything, not even metadata...
https://ring.cx/ - e2e encrypted, distributed (no central server), multi-platform, not linked to phone number
Seems a bit buggy ATM. I tried to create an account and app crashes. I'll try on a desktop later. Thanks!
Conversations/chatsecure + OTR/OMEMO + XMPP server + Tor
My conversations must be so boring compared to the ones you guys have.
XMPP + OTR
Seriously. My most sensitive recent text:
"I have nothing to hide" is simply a failure of imagination.
Mine is this:
What isn't, though, is that whatever the answer is today it probably won't be the answer on the day I have something to hide. The idea is that the freedom I have today would cease and what I consider free speech would be illegal, and thus I would then have something to hide. But the best technology for hiding my communication seems to change far more often than such events occur, thus making it easy to take lightly
I think its fairly clear that if you want to hide your communication, you're better off not using technology at all....
How come? The secret chat feature seems pretty safe.
https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-are-secret-chats-different
Burner phones with no connection to you and no Net access. Little shitty flip phones and the like, can be activated by only a zip code and does not even have to be yours. Buy them for 10-20 bucks when they run out but another one.
The web app works perfectly fine for me.
Walk into the nearest Apple store, and but the cheapest iPhone you find. Use ID which identifies both your face and your credit to your personal being. Continue for the next decade until you die of carrot cancer.
Not supported in Telegram web (aka. webogram) for example. Also it tends to be a bit buggy and it's only for one to one communication (no multi-device support / does not work for groups).
Most ppl do not use secret chats because of all that. They are just not comfy implemented. It seems that Telegram doesn't really care about them, else they wouldn't be missing in webogram imo.
edit: and they use some custom selfmade encryption technology that was criticised multiple times.
It's an interesting point; people refusing to use more secure solutions because they're inconvenient.
Spot on. Safety, privacy, exercising, healthy eating and other good habits are jeopardized by physical and intellectual laziness. If something is undeniably good but requires work, discipline or efforts due to complexity or inconvenience then people not only prefer to skip it but invent varies excuses to make them feel better about selves despite bad choices.
Bareback sex during one night stand rationalized by low risk of STD transmission. Bad quality fast food rationalized by lack of time. Easily guessable pin codes and passwords rationalized by the same "who needs my useless account or empty debit card" argument.
The bad thing is that this aspect of human nature is not going to change. So it's up to technology leaders to implement safety by default. Of course, that's a tall order to fill and unrealistic. But at least, there is a movement in that direction.