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Obfuscate adcode

quickquick Member
edited July 2017 in Help

Hello my lovelies,

I need some advice and help. My new popunder adnetwork is offering a plain adcode with great rates. But most of my visitors are using adblockers. I dont wan't to exclude them from my sites, but I would like to ?obfuscate? (bypass the adblocker) the plain adcode, to maximize my income.

The plain adcode looks like this:

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Comments

  • YuraYura Member

    Is this a troll thread?

  • quickquick Member

    @Yura said:
    Is this a troll thread?

    why do you got that impression?

  • That won't help, I'll just look at the network section of the dev console and block your whole domain.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @quick said:
    Hello my lovelies,

    I need some advice and help. My new popunder adnetwork is offering a plain adcode with great rates. But most of my visitors are using adblockers. I dont wan't to exclude them from my sites,

    But see, we do...

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  • quickquick Member

    @nulldev said:
    That won't help, I'll just look at the network section of the dev console and block your whole domain.

    you are correct, but the normal user won't do that.

  • SvenSven Member

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  • YuraYura Member

    @quick said:

    @Yura said:
    Is this a troll thread?

    why do you got that impression?

    Not many people would ask how to maximize annoyance of popunders, especially from geeks who as you noticed in the OP, opted in the measures to defend themselves from such advertisement.

    That's why I asked. If this is a serious thread, then no problem, proceed as you please. I had to make sure for myself.

  • @quick said:

    @nulldev said:
    That won't help, I'll just look at the network section of the dev console and block your whole domain.

    you are correct, but the normal user won't do that.

    If I wrote the rules for adblockers, I would do that. And that's how adblockers work actually! They block the domains that the ads are loaded from.

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  • bluesegabluesega Member
    edited July 2017

    Sites pushing their advertisements through adblockers deserve no visitors.
    Personally, I've deactivated my blocker for some pages (about ~40-50 atm) on which I think they try to keep the "quality" of the ads good enough (means: no flash, no videos, no enormous images and no scam), they can try to convince, but if they fail once, won't be paying them a visit again or will take serious adblockers in network traffic for it. (Luckily, only had this case two times)

    So stop being pushy with your ads and just try to convince users that you're worth being supported. (Also, go back to your network and tell them that it's 2017, http will be instantly blocked by browsers on https pages, even without adblockers)

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  • @bluesega said:
    Sites pushing their advertisements through adblockers deserve no visitors.
    Personally, I've deactivated my blocker for some pages (about ~40-50 atm) on which I think they try to keep the "quality" of the ads good enough (means: no flash, no videos, no enormous images and no scam), they can try to convince, but if they fail once, won't be paying them a visit again or will take serious adblockers in network traffic for it. (Luckily, only had this case two times)

    So stop being pushy with your ads and just try to convince users that you're worth being supported. (Also, go back to your network and tell them that it's 2017, http will be instantly blocked by browsers on https pages, even without adblockers)

    Pffft. The worst sites use Adblock blockers (ironically). Best part is, it's not hard to hide your adblocker, so I don't get why people bother adding the extra pop up.

  • @doghouch said:

    @bluesega said:
    Sites pushing their advertisements through adblockers deserve no visitors.
    Personally, I've deactivated my blocker for some pages (about ~40-50 atm) on which I think they try to keep the "quality" of the ads good enough (means: no flash, no videos, no enormous images and no scam), they can try to convince, but if they fail once, won't be paying them a visit again or will take serious adblockers in network traffic for it. (Luckily, only had this case two times)

    So stop being pushy with your ads and just try to convince users that you're worth being supported. (Also, go back to your network and tell them that it's 2017, http will be instantly blocked by browsers on https pages, even without adblockers)

    Pffft. The worst sites use Adblock blockers (ironically). Best part is, it's not hard to hide your adblocker, so I don't get why people bother adding the extra pop up.

    This is why I have to use adblock blocker blocker

    Since some websites also uses adblock blocker blocker blocker

    I'm thinking to install adblock blocker blocker blocker blocker I hope someone don't make adblock blocker blocker blocker blocker blocker

  • @doghouch said:
    Pffft. The worst sites use Adblock blockers (ironically). Best part is, it's not hard to hide your adblocker, so I don't get why people bother adding the extra pop up.

    Well, kinda agree with you, yes, mostly the sites not worth being a visit anyway use adblock-blockers, but sometime ago, also a news page I used was telling me to "please deactivate the adblocker", but not too pushy, just with a little message below their header (size like about two lines here in posts?), so just tried and unblocked it, and they are basically only using Doubleclick (Google's network) and Amazon, both only showing text advertisements. I think this is fair for the service they provide for free after all and it doesn't bother too much, at this point guess it's only fair for me to keep visiting them without adblocker. If they'd restrict my access like many pages do only because of this though, don't know if I'd ever made an attempt like this.

    But the point is, if I use an adblocker and they use kinda new ad-networking techniques (there are some that push through normal adblockers), and through this they'll show their annoying ads again, then the likeliness of me visiting again there drops down quite much.

    I guess it's to address the normal user just installing adblock and not thinking about how to use it, and I think it's okay if you make people aware of it, but nothing more, nothing less, a little message like stated above is okay - but the user should decide how he handles it.

  • Send me your adcode and I'll do it for you.

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  • hzrhzr Member

    nulldev said: That won't help, I'll just look at the network section of the dev console and block your whole domain.

    You don't need to, it wil be blocked anyway. If you obfuscate that code directly ublock/etc will still block the part where it tries to load from that domain lol

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  • AidanAidan Member

    I haven't seen a single decent website use popunders in the last couple of years, it's 2017 - not '97

  • @nulldev said:
    If I wrote the rules for adblockers, I would do that. And that's how adblockers work actually! They block the domains that the ads are loaded from.

    This.

    @bluesega said:
    if I use an adblocker and they use kinda new ad-networking techniques (there are some that push through normal adblockers), and through this they'll show their annoying ads again, then the likeliness of me visiting again there drops down quite much.

    This.

    @bluesega said:
    try to convince users that you're worth being supported.

    And this.

  • WSSWSS Member

    I have AdBlock, but it's inactive. I use it to see if any sites detect it, because I'm too lazy to change my User Agent. When they redirect or popover me, I add them to my shitlist and stop using them. If you're that hard up that my minute traffic is worth redirecting for a blocker, obviously not having my traffic will help your bottom line!

  • JanevskiJanevski Member
    edited July 2017

    @quick

    server {
        return 403;
        ...
    }
    

    There! Now no one can see your precious content. Just don't forget to keep it refrigerated. Happy?

    You cannot force people. Some visitors are going to use adblockers or even better opt out from seeing ads either via paid or free option, depends on the situation. You should be big enough that even if some people opt out from seeing your ads you can still satisfy your advertisers by not forcing people, just work on the numbers. You want more money? Work more, become bigger.

    Either that or find a better billing model altogether that doesn't try to limit people's freedom.

    off-topic: @WSS Welcome back! :)

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  • quick said: most of my visitors are using adblockers

    That should tell you something right there.

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  • pbgbenpbgben Member, Host Rep

    Ha, you want to buy some ad technology? How many users you got

    http://www.lowendtaik.com/unblocked/

  • I use an adblocker as I got ZERO intention of clicking ads. Even if you were to force them down on me doesn't mean I'll fall for them.

  • @pbgben said:
    Ha, you want to buy some ad technology? How many users you got

    http://www.lowendtaik.com/unblocked/

    Can't see any ads, just some crappy placeholder

  • Cancerous pop up/pop under ads are the reason people use Adblocking software in the first place, so GTFOH if you want help to get around it.

  • pbgbenpbgben Member, Host Rep

    @doghouch said:

    @pbgben said:
    Ha, you want to buy some ad technology? How many users you got

    http://www.lowendtaik.com/unblocked/

    Can't see any ads, just some crappy placeholder

    What placeholders?

  • pbgbenpbgben Member, Host Rep

    @hostnoob said:
    Cancerous pop up/pop under ads are the reason people use Adblocking software in the first place, so GTFOH if you want help to get around it.

    Indeed, its one of the policies for the network I intend to build. Adverts and advertisers MUST comply to rules. Not annoying(Our discretion), No Flashy adverts(Gif allowed, but must not be strobing) PG content, must be non intrusive or obstructive (Popover, adwall, misleading eg download pages etc)

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  • quick said: I dont wan't to exclude them from my sites, but I would like to ?obfuscate? (bypass the adblocker) the plain adcode, to maximize my income.

    Sure. What reason do i have to give you such a solution for free, especially public? While you then make money on it?

    Aka: Pay me.

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  • quickquick Member
    edited July 2017

    Okey guys, you convinced me... I will stick with my current/old popunder adnetwork :))

  • noamannoaman Member

    Note:

    To somelevel you can allow the loading of the script

    I am currently using a cname monetize in my adcash.com network

    Do note that even if you do manage to bypass the js block

    The ad script will load an image

    which willl have specific keywords banner/ad etc...these will again be triggered and will be BLOCKED by adblock

    So in short

    if you want to load the js with adblocker enabled it will /can work

    but if you want to load the whole ad then its a completely another scenario

    you need to work with you cpm network to allow the images/content loaded dynamically to be random enough to bypass the ad blockers

    my 2 cents

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  • @pbgben said:

    @doghouch said:

    @pbgben said:
    Ha, you want to buy some ad technology? How many users you got

    http://www.lowendtaik.com/unblocked/

    Can't see any ads, just some crappy placeholder

    What placeholders?

    I was referring to the entire page as a placeholder.

    That aside, what's the point of the page? lol

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