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Need Tip For:Fastest way HongKong to Europe

cxcoolcxcool Member

Hello LET ~
I would like to buy two vps one in HongKong , the other one can located in UK DE FR NL ....
Is there anyway can make the ping lower 180ms ??
I cant find a direct connection from HK to EU .....
please help ...

Thank you~

Comments

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Provider

    Lower? I think not. Anything under 300 is generally good. 200ms is as good as I've seen it.

  • quickquick Member

    Don~t think so ~

  • quickquick Member

    @william could probably help ~

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited June 2017

    cxcool said: Is there anyway can make the ping lower 180ms ??

    Yes, but only barely.

    FEA (Flag Europe Asia) has landing in UK and up to HK.

    HE is on another (a combination of SeaMeWe-4 and an Asian cable) from Marseille (FR) and gets ~185ms from Paris to HK. Marseille HK is around 170ms alone.

    2   13 ms   10 ms   14 ms   100ge6-1.core2.mrs1.he.net (184.105.222.22)
    3   155 ms  149 ms  150 ms  100ge10-1.core1.sin1.he.net (184.105.65.13)
    4   180 ms  188 ms  186 ms  100ge14-2.core1.hkg1.he.net (184.105.222.101)
    

    This is a low quality route however.

    NTT uses the same cable (or one on the same route now) and gets ~200ms.

      6. AS2914  ae-13.r20.sngpsi05.sg.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.7.11)  10.0%    1     9    10 183.6 183.6 184.1 187.3   1.1 184.1  3.6  0.9  3.6  7.3
      7. AS2914  ae-6.r24.tkokhk01.hk.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.198)  10.0%    1     9    10 220.5 220.5 221.1 222.3   0.4 221.0  0.2  0.4  1.8  3.1
    

    Traditionally this route (suez canal) is one of the most fault issue ones as well, unlike US->Asia.

    Thanked by 2DewlanceVPS Lunics
  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider
    edited June 2017

    randvegeta said: Lower? I think not. Anything under 300 is generally good. 200ms is as good as I've seen it.

    I almost manage 180ms (195 to be exact) from Amsterdam to my server with your in HK, but again the same Marseille-SG-HK HE route:

      1. AS202558185.140.113.2                                            30.0%    3     7    10   0.1   0.0   0.1   0.2   0.0   0.1  0.0  0.0  0.1  0.1
      2. AS43350 46.166.188.78                                             0.0%    0    10    10   0.4   0.4   0.5   1.3   0.0   0.5  0.1  0.1  0.9  0.9
      3. AS43350 185.107.116.21                                            0.0%    0    10    10  94.4   1.4  10.8  94.4  29.4   2.3 92.9  9.3 92.9 93.3
         AS43350 185.107.116.22
      4. AS1200  30gigabitethernet1-3.core1.ams1.he.net (80.249.209.150)   0.0%    0    10    10  11.3   1.8   7.4  12.2   4.6   5.6  1.5  3.5 10.3 27.3
      5. AS6939  100ge12-2.core1.par2.he.net (184.105.81.109)              0.0%    0    10    10  11.5  11.2  15.0  29.6   5.5  14.3  0.3  3.4 18.4 22.8
      6. AS6939  100ge6-1.core2.mrs1.he.net (184.105.222.22)               0.0%    0    10    10  28.7  23.9  31.3  39.4   4.7  30.9  1.9  3.2 15.2 22.9
      7. AS6939  100ge10-1.core1.sin1.he.net (184.105.65.13)              10.0%    1     9    10 167.6 160.8 166.9 171.5   4.3 166.9  1.9  4.9 10.0 34.0
      8. AS6939  100ge14-2.core1.hkg1.he.net (184.105.222.101)            10.0%    1     9    10 203.5 194.7 198.6 205.2   4.6 198.6  1.7  4.7 10.4 34.2
      9. AS6939  dc.10gigabitethernet6-4.core1.hkg1.he.net (27.50.33.34)  10.0%    1     9    10 195.4 195.3 210.3 306.7  36.7 208.1 19.7 17.7 111. 115.9
     10. AS55536 teleasia.1g.hkg1.as55536.net (103.10.199.2)              30.0%    3     7    10 195.8 195.7 195.9 196.3   0.0 195.9  0.0  0.2  0.6  1.3
     11. AS133398103.253.40.x                                           10.0%    1     9    10 195.8 195.6 195.8 196.1   0.0 195.8  0.0  0.1  0.3  0.8
    
    Thanked by 2randvegeta cxcool
  • VirtualByteVirtualByte Member
    edited June 2017
    Thanked by 1cxcool
  • teamaccteamacc Member
    edited June 2017

    Hetzner to/from whatever @randvegeta is hosting off of (hosthongkong) is 195ms. Seems like HHK to HE in Interxion Marseille gives 175ms though, so just under 180ms. Online.net is hosted quite close to that (~7ms), so that gives you an option on either end.

    Thanked by 1randvegeta

    I like my uptime down low and my servers all hacked. Can see me droppin' twenty-fours with a router in the rack.
    Ya like ya Switch-Ports hot and ya servers all hacked. If ya pings real high and ya networks pitch black.

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Provider

    William said: I almost manage 180ms (195 to be exact) from Amsterdam to my server with your in HK, but again the same Marseille-SG-HK HE route:

    teamacc said: Hetzner to/from whatever @randvegeta is hosting off of (hosthongkong) is 195ms.

    That's nice to know. In LT is get around 220ms and in the UK, depending on ISP, between 250 and 350 (but I only tested on crappy ADSL). I dont have any servers in NL or DE though. I've heard HE.net opened a direct route to Europe from HK but it seems to randomly switch to US at times. You guys see this?

    Best I've seen personally was 195-200ms via RETN, which was great for me while I was in LT.

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    VirtualByte said: Well there is also TEA-2 and ERMC

    Which is an extremely expensive route western carriers tend to not use. You can guess why (hint: the route and the owner/operator).

  • @William said:

    VirtualByte said: Well there is also TEA-2 and ERMC

    Which is an extremely expensive route western carriers tend to not use. You can guess why (hint: the route and the owner/operator).

    He asked sub 180 ms, well this route has RTD of 140ms. But still the HE route seems to be the most cost effective.

  • 502loc502loc Member

    azure should be able to do?but u need Multiple azure

  • cxcoolcxcool Member

    @William said:

    randvegeta said: Lower? I think not. Anything under 300 is generally good. 200ms is as good as I've seen it.

    I almost manage 180ms (195 to be exact) from Amsterdam to my server with your in HK, but again the same Marseille-SG-HK HE route:

    >   1. AS202558185.140.113.2                                            30.0%    3     7    10   0.1   0.0   0.1   0.2   0.0   0.1  0.0  0.0  0.1  0.1
    >   2. AS43350 46.166.188.78                                             0.0%    0    10    10   0.4   0.4   0.5   1.3   0.0   0.5  0.1  0.1  0.9  0.9
    >   3. AS43350 185.107.116.21                                            0.0%    0    10    10  94.4   1.4  10.8  94.4  29.4   2.3 92.9  9.3 92.9 93.3
    >      AS43350 185.107.116.22
    >   4. AS1200  30gigabitethernet1-3.core1.ams1.he.net (80.249.209.150)   0.0%    0    10    10  11.3   1.8   7.4  12.2   4.6   5.6  1.5  3.5 10.3 27.3
    >   5. AS6939  100ge12-2.core1.par2.he.net (184.105.81.109)              0.0%    0    10    10  11.5  11.2  15.0  29.6   5.5  14.3  0.3  3.4 18.4 22.8
    >   6. AS6939  100ge6-1.core2.mrs1.he.net (184.105.222.22)               0.0%    0    10    10  28.7  23.9  31.3  39.4   4.7  30.9  1.9  3.2 15.2 22.9
    >   7. AS6939  100ge10-1.core1.sin1.he.net (184.105.65.13)              10.0%    1     9    10 167.6 160.8 166.9 171.5   4.3 166.9  1.9  4.9 10.0 34.0
    >   8. AS6939  100ge14-2.core1.hkg1.he.net (184.105.222.101)            10.0%    1     9    10 203.5 194.7 198.6 205.2   4.6 198.6  1.7  4.7 10.4 34.2
    >   9. AS6939  dc.10gigabitethernet6-4.core1.hkg1.he.net (27.50.33.34)  10.0%    1     9    10 195.4 195.3 210.3 306.7  36.7 208.1 19.7 17.7 111. 115.9
    >  10. AS55536 teleasia.1g.hkg1.as55536.net (103.10.199.2)              30.0%    3     7    10 195.8 195.7 195.9 196.3   0.0 195.9  0.0  0.2  0.6  1.3
    >  11. AS133398103.253.40.x                                           10.0%    1     9    10 195.8 195.6 195.8 196.1   0.0 195.8  0.0  0.1  0.3  0.8
    > 

    Thank you so much for the very detail tips.
    HE is really a high C/P way to connect HK to EU ...
    I have already test some vps ,and get around 190ms ,over all its good ~

  • cxcoolcxcool Member

    @VirtualByte said:

    @William said:

    VirtualByte said: Well there is also TEA-2 and ERMC

    Which is an extremely expensive route western carriers tend to not use. You can guess why (hint: the route and the owner/operator).

    He asked sub 180 ms, well this route has RTD of 140ms. But still the HE route seems to be the most cost effective.

    Thanks for the tip~ I only find one IDC using TEA ,it is 51dic in Hongkong ,The price is ok ,but they only offer 5m bandwidth ....
    I try to connect it to moscow first , i get a 135ms ...which is pretty amazing ...
    But i havent find any vps provider have direct route from Frankfurt to HK using TEA ~
    I will try harder to find one .

  • LizCatLizCat Member, Provider

    HKG -> FRA 171ms

  • cxcoolcxcool Member
    edited June 2017

    @LizCat said:

    HKG -> FRA 171ms

    WOW , a pure HE IDC in HK. very nice~ already sent pm ,would like to buy one

  • WilliamWilliam Member, Provider

    cxcool said: WOW , a pure HE IDC in HK. very nice~ already sent pm ,would like to buy one

    Generally very bad choice. As noted HE to/in Asia is mostly horrible.

  • You could just use the HE tunnelbroker thingy for connection to europe on an otherwise well-connected vps in HK, would prevent you from having to go full HE.

    I like my uptime down low and my servers all hacked. Can see me droppin' twenty-fours with a router in the rack.
    Ya like ya Switch-Ports hot and ya servers all hacked. If ya pings real high and ya networks pitch black.

  • LizCatLizCat Member, Provider

    @William said:

    cxcool said: WOW , a pure HE IDC in HK. very nice~ already sent pm ,would like to buy one

    Generally very bad choice. As noted HE to/in Asia is mostly horrible.

    Really bad, so we use IPLC -> He -> Softlayer -> Internet.

  • cxcoolcxcool Member

    @teamacc said:
    You could just use the HE tunnelbroker thingy for connection to europe on an otherwise well-connected vps in HK, would prevent you from having to go full HE.

    Thanks ~ i am now using tunnel broker to connect the two vps by ipv6 ..
    the ping is about 190ms ,PL about 0.2% ,not bad ~

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