Decide between system... help please
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Decide between system... help please

plumbergplumberg Member

I am trying to decide between two laptops..

Acer Aspire - https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/NX.GCCAA.006 and Lenovo Flex 2 - https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Edge-Touchscreen-Notebook-Computer/dp/B01MSIEKXG

I got both for under $500. I am confused which would be a better computer... i use my laptop to talk with my clients over GoogleVoice (through computer)/ Skype etc. Other than that, its mainly emails/ browsing... I log all notes on a simple website.

If that helps, I have upgraded to an EVO850 SSD on both of them.

Both seem to be meet my current needs... I need to make a decision tomorrow.. which to keep and which to return... Any thoughts/ comments?

Comments

  • qtwrkqtwrk Member

    Well,id say if thats all your needs, get cheaper one

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  • WSSWSS Member

    Well, since you bought two, you have both. If you return one after using it, and there's no reason to do so, it's called fraud.

    I've been asked to stop derailing threads. So, stop enticing more-interesting topics!

  • @WSS said: Well, since you bought two, you have both. If you return one after using it, and there's no reason to do so, it's called fraud.

    how? it is within the return policy period. Also, Its not that I have ripped apart the laptop and damaged it. I just tried my daily work routine, thats all.

    I just want an opinion based on the specs which would be a better investment...

  • @GenjiSwitchPls said: Treat yourself keep both ;)

    Haha, can't

  • @qtwrk said: Well,id say if thats all your needs, get cheaper one

    Both are same cost. Its just that I dont think I will want to upgrade this for the next few years. Something which will work good.. I understand with new Software updates, system will become slow over a period of time.

  • I would go with the i7 one in that case.

  • ljsealsljseals Member

    I like lenovo with an extended warranty as they will fix your computer quickly and it has robust features. I have have dropped my lenovo several times and it is still working. I believe that in regard to the best business class laptops it is hard to beat lenovo. God bless you!

  • WSSWSS Member

    @plumberg said: how? it is within the return policy period. Also, Its not that I have ripped apart the laptop and damaged it. I just tried my daily work routine, thats all.

    I just want an opinion based on the specs which would be a better investment...

    The problem with this ideology is the fact that it now has to be sold as open stock, which directly affects the companies' margin.

    I've been asked to stop derailing threads. So, stop enticing more-interesting topics!

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  • @WSS said:

    @plumberg said: how? it is within the return policy period. Also, Its not that I have ripped apart the laptop and damaged it. I just tried my daily work routine, thats all.

    I just want an opinion based on the specs which would be a better investment...

    The problem with this ideology is the fact that it now has to be sold as open stock, which directly affects the companies' margin.

    Hmm. Still. Not fraud.

  • WSSWSS Member
    edited April 20

    @plumberg said: Hmm. Still. Not fraud.

    You purchased both with the intent to use both, then return one. I've bolded that just in case your leap of logic is missing this fact. Even Wikipedia calls it fraud. I'd never, ever provide you a service willingly with this knowledge, and I sincerely hope the majority of LET providers read this thread.

    I've been asked to stop derailing threads. So, stop enticing more-interesting topics!

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  • ChronicChronic Member

    Amazon has quite lax return policies. Unless @plumberg is lying to the store with the intent to return a product which would otherwise not be returnable under the store's policies, I would hardly classify this as fraud.

  • WSSWSS Member
    edited April 20

    @Chronic said: Amazon has quite lax return policies.

    He never claimed that they came from Amazon, and I agree- Amazon takes the dick quite often because people decide they don't want an item. FYI, It's still considered to be fraud to buy things only to return them if you just want to "test drive" them with no intent to purchase them. Physical goods, more so than non-tangible.

    I'm at a quanadry, because I hate the OP, but I hate Bezos more.

    I've been asked to stop derailing threads. So, stop enticing more-interesting topics!

  • williewillie Member

    WSS said: It's still considered to be fraud to buy things only to return them if you just want to "test drive" them with no intent to purchase them.

    I've had salespeople encourage me to do that, as part of a hard sell. They figure people will keep the item often enough to make up for the restocks. Also some places state up front that you're welcome to do that but there's a 15% restock fee. I bought and returned a laptop that way, and it went fine.

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  • WSSWSS Member

    @willie said:

    WSS said: It's still considered to be fraud to buy things only to return them if you just want to "test drive" them with no intent to purchase them.

    I've had salespeople encourage me to do that, as part of a hard sell. They figure people will keep the item often enough to make up for the restocks. Also some places state up front that you're welcome to do that but there's a 15% restock fee. I bought and returned a laptop that way, and it went fine.

    That 15% is taking into account an expense of discounting the item should it be returned, with some hard beancounter math behind it which allows them to handle it. Amazon, however, puts it on the reseller to suck the dick- but Amazon also sells many items themselves, so it's difficult to suggest exactly who is getting fucked by this.

    I've never had a salesperson suggest I borrow two cars after a test drive, or had a vendor (that wasn't making a fuckton of money) throw more than one piece of hardware at me on a tentative sale. A $500 laptop is not anywhere near this grade.

    I've been asked to stop derailing threads. So, stop enticing more-interesting topics!

  • ChronicChronic Member

    WSS said: He never claimed that they came from Amazon

    Fair enough. One of the links was to Amazon and I made a leap. Might've just been for our reference and the transaction completed elsewhere.

  • @WSS said:

    I've never had a salesperson suggest I borrow two cars after a test drive, or had a vendor (that wasn't making a fuckton of money) throw more than one piece of hardware at me on a tentative sale. A $500 laptop is not anywhere near this grade.

    A friend of mine was offered a BMW for a weekend by the salesperson, after the test drive. But that was decades ago.

  • WSSWSS Member

    Junkless said:

    @Junkless said:

    @WSS said:

    I've never had a salesperson suggest I borrow two cars after a test drive, or had a vendor (that wasn't making a fuckton of money) throw more than one piece of hardware at me on a tentative sale. A $500 laptop is not anywhere near this grade.

    A friend of mine was offered a BMW for a weekend by the salesperson, after the test drive. But that was decades ago.

    That's a pretty common sales tactic after they run a credit check. However, they don't generally offer you two to test out.

    I've been asked to stop derailing threads. So, stop enticing more-interesting topics!

  • YmpkerYmpker Member, Provider
    edited April 20

    @WSS said:

    @Chronic said: Amazon has quite lax return policies.

    He never claimed that they came from Amazon, and I agree- Amazon takes the dick quite often because people decide they don't want an item. FYI, It's still considered to be fraud to buy things only to return them if you just want to "test drive" them with no intent to purchase them. Physical goods, more so than non-tangible.

    I'm at a quanadry, because I hate the OP, but I hate Bezos more.

    There are acctually companies which are encouraging you to try out (and return) their stuff because they strongly believe that their (lifestyle) product (e.g. a special sorta laptop) will enhance your life :) It's not all black/white. I'd not consider this fraud either.

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  • WSSWSS Member
    edited April 20

    @Ympker said: There are acctually companies which are encouraging you to try out their stuff because they strongly believe that their (lifestyle) product (e.g. a special sorta laptop) will enhance your life :) It's not all black/white. I'd not consider this fraud either.

    I am not talking about these companies. They're more than willing to charge you an extra fee for whatever- Bose, Nike, etc. Their shit is so overpriced that 1 of 25 returns doesn't hurt them. I'm talking about the general reseller market.

    OK, let's say you "Test Drive" a $500 laptop through Amazon sold from a reseller.

    That reseller is required to ship to you within X amount of time, and Amazon gets to sit on the payment for NET-45 to NET-90.

    This company is out the cost of the laptop, the monthly storage expense at Amazon, and the shipping expense from Amazon.

    You watch porn on it for two weeks, decide the cocks don't glisten enough, and open up a ticket saying "I don't want this".

    Reseller pays for return shipping, you get refunded 100%, and Amazon levies an extra expense against them for the return, which is usually around the range of $20.

    This company just lost up to $100 on a $500 item, because you decided to "test drive" it, rather than driving to the nearest Circuit CityBest BuyFrys, and giving it a go.

    Sorry, but this isn't even overstated entitlement, it's stealing from that reseller who now is in the negative and has a used item you didn't really want in the first place.

    I've been asked to stop derailing threads. So, stop enticing more-interesting topics!

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  • YmpkerYmpker Member, Provider

    No doubt that the reseller is losing money from this. But exactly because this "standards" exist when it comes to expected return policies it is something to be considered as accounted for by the reseller.

    There are probably hella lot ppl sending shoes back and forth until they have the correct size and outfit for them.

    /Signature/

  • WSSWSS Member

    @Ympker said: No doubt that the reseller is losing money from this. But exactly because this "standards" exist when it comes to expected return policies it is something to be considered as accounted for by the reseller.

    Most resellers don't quite have a lot of "wiggle room" with Jeff's expensive dick up their ass. Not only is Amazon expensive as hell to use (to make your shit Prime-available that most users expect), but they have requirements that are even more stringent than eBay (and eBay filters out fake goods better than Amazon these days).

    Basically, yeah, you're a dick too.

    @Ympker said: There are probably hella lot ppl sending shoes back and forth until they have the correct size and outfit for them.

    NIMBY! (Not In My Bandwych).

    I've been asked to stop derailing threads. So, stop enticing more-interesting topics!

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  • plumbergplumberg Member
    edited April 21

    I asked for opinions on what would be a better laptop and people have taken a tangent...

    Everyone has a different perspective on this issue.

    @wss; I got the laptops from the big b&m store retailers and wholesalers. I have no remorse to adhere by the policies offered by the stores.

    Sure most stores will end up selling it as an open stock, in this case the sales people told that if returned it will be sent straight to the manufacturer... Where a badly abused system may be sold off as refurbished but most of the times it will be ready to be sold as new after repacking.

    I consider this as a business operational expense.. Especially in the corporate USA where consumers usually get a fair share if they abide by the policies.

    I totally agree, some people abuse the return policies... But others do not.

    Thanks.

  • jarlandjarland Administrator

    I don't see this as fraud. I might not do it, or condone it, but I don't see it as fraud. Not with the available information.

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